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kogafortwo
12-24-2008, 09:39 AM
The old Troy-Bilt finally was treated to a complete engine rebuild by yours truly, including conn rod, rings, a lifter for the intake side, gaskets, seals, a bunch of nickel-and-dime stuff, and quite a few hours of my labor.

This is a 10 hp Tecumseh HM100 horziontal shaft motor. The chipper is an old belt drive with 3 inch branch chute and a big hopper for small stuff.

Result: it starts, runs, and chips. BUT: it vibrates like crazy and is hard to get to run a stable rpm.

When I torqued down the new conn rod the clearance seemed bigger than it should be. I never measured the big end journal. Since Tecumseh offers several part numbers for conn rods on this engine, I double- and triple-checked that I was getting the right one.

I did not do a complete carb rebuild, but I did clean out the bowl, blow out all the passages, re-set the float height, and use a new bowl gasket.

When I was running it today, the long stud that runs up through the intake casting and through the air cleaner broke. I can fix it with some 1/4 x 20 threaded rod no problem. I can also try a complete carb rebuild or new carb.

The thing is, every online thread I read about these engines talks about vibration, carburetion problems, and broken rods. Same thing I heard from the guys at the small engine shop where I bought some parts.

Question: should I put in the carb rebuild and try to run it some more, or should I cut my losses, part out the Tecumseh motor on Ebay and buy something from Northern that will start and run with no problems for years to come? Northern has an LCT brand engine that would fit nicely and looks pretty high-tech for around $300.

Rebuild pix will follow in another thread.

Bill Kapaun
12-24-2008, 01:00 PM
Did that engine have the counterbalance shaft in it?
IF so, it sounds like it's installed out of sync.

IF it didn't vibrate before, it shouldn't now.

kogafortwo
12-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Did that engine have the counterbalance shaft in it?
IF so, it sounds like it's installed out of sync.

IF it didn't vibrate before, it shouldn't now.

Nope, no counterbalance shaft.
However, the engine did have a broken rod when I bought it and the seller told me it vibrated pretty bad before it finally blew up on him. The crank journal looked pretty good when I tore the engine down, and all I did was clean up the journal and main bearing surfaces with 600 grit.

I regret now that I didn't mic the journal and find out whether it was in spec. How much play should you feel by touch when you put a rod on these small engines? Should you be able to detect any play at all when you rotate the flywheel back and forth by hand a few degrees?

I am really thinking that I did not fix the real problem when I bolted the new rod on. I just replaced the broken part with another one thast is destined to fail for the same reason.

Appreciate any advice I can get.