Uniforms

[Junior M]

So what do you think about em? I for one think it goes a little far with some companies, like my Dad, he is off sometimes when on the days they turn in there uniforms and if he comes in the next day in blue jeans he'll actually get written up, which is bad on his yearly evaluation.

But if and when I ever get employees, I'd like them to wear a company shirt with there name on it tucked in, blue jeans, and boots. I wouldnt want them to have to ruin there own so maybe give them a gift card to wal-mart or somewhere to pick up some cheap pants while on company time. Its just to hot down here to wear those big heavy uniforms from the uniform companies.

[bobcat9957]

I know of some of companys around here who offer uniforms. The uniform companys will give you whatever you want from bluejeans to khakis to shorts etc. same with shirts. If you have a few guys they charge a monthly fee and replace them when ripped or worn out and wash them every week.

[YellowDogSVC]

uniforms sound good in theory but unless you have a uniform service and/or plenty of them, heavy equipment equals grease and mud stains. It can get expensive to buy clothes much less embroidered or silk screened clothing. I have tinkered with the idea myself. I'm a shorts guy. I work in them nearly year round. I have tried the professional look khakis at $30 a pair but they look ragged in just a few weeks if you work hard enough. Ditto on shirts. I spent $300 on really nice silk screened shirts with logo, name and a paw print on the back with services listed in each part of the paw print. These were heavy duty cotton tees and very comfortable, looked good, etc. They were reduced to rags in about a year and after the first month, they had stains everywhere. I try and stay clean but one field repair or a grease gun problem will ruin a shirt or pants. I looked into the mechanics clothing from a uniform service but they just don't look comfy for the in and out of the cab, climbing, hiking, etc., I do at work so I went back to shorts and tees. Not real professional but I'm productive when I'm comfy.

[bobcat_ron]

Uniforms are for people who are afraid to express themselves as an individual.

[Junior M]

uniforms sound good in theory but unless you have a uniform service and/or plenty of them, heavy equipment equals grease and mud stains. It can get expensive to buy clothes much less embroidered or silk screened clothing. I have tinkered with the idea myself. I'm a shorts guy. I work in them nearly year round. I have tried the professional look khakis at $30 a pair but they look ragged in just a few weeks if you work hard enough. Ditto on shirts. I spent $300 on really nice silk screened shirts with logo, name and a paw print on the back with services listed in each part of the paw print. These were heavy duty cotton tees and very comfortable, looked good, etc. They were reduced to rags in about a year and after the first month, they had stains everywhere. I try and stay clean but one field repair or a grease gun problem will ruin a shirt or pants. I looked into the mechanics clothing from a uniform service but they just don't look comfy for the in and out of the cab, climbing, hiking, etc., I do at work so I went back to shorts and tees. Not real professional but I'm productive when I'm comfy.
I never even thought of the whole grease thing. I am sure it would be really useless with a small crew, you'd be wasting more money than it was worth. I really dont like the uniforms the uniform services offer, just to thick, and just big. Kinda like a new Carhartt jacket is when you first get it, and its like wearing a big box when you sit down cause its so stiff..

[ksss]

Uniforms are for people who are afraid to express themselves as an individual.


You kill me.:laugh:

[Junior M]

Uniforms are for people who are afraid to express themselves as an individual.
I suppose thats why you'll never wear a uniform, am I right? :laugh:

You crack me up Ronnie..

[jefftb]

I do not require employees to wear everyday the shirts/vests/jackets that I provide them. I do ask that they at least wear them fairly often. Generally we have about half of the crew members wearing something with the logo at any time on the jobsite. I'm not going to provide them pants. I can get our logo'd t-shirts in quantities of 20 for about $220.00.

I'm actually thinking about upping the quantity of the clothing supplied and seeing if they would wear it everyday.

Also thinking about implementing a yearly boot allowance. I had a guy show up in tennis shoes because his only pair of boots were soaked the day before.

Concerns me about worker safety issues and lost productivity because someone is in the wrong apparel for our work.

[Junior M]

Dad did the yearly boot allowance thing when he was in business because some of his guys couldnt afford them, he did the same thing with overalls and carhartt jackets. except he only bought those once...

[mrsops]

I for one think it looks very professional pulling up to a job and everyone has the same uniform on. I give my guys company t shirts, sweaters, and i just bought my top 10 guys brand new $100 carharrt jackets for Christmas. I also buy them all 6 pairs of blue dickies pants for the year. I agree some of my guys do get alot of grease stains and stuff like that on the shirts and pants but what can you do. The only thing i do not buy them is work boots there on there own for that. O yeah i forgot i also get company hats as well

[RockSet N' Grade]

I am happy if my guys just show up. This business does not seem to attract brain surgeons on a regular basis, so if my guys show up with clean jeans, shoes and socks and the free t-shirts I gave them......I am on a positive roll for the day. We are an independant type to begin with, so uniforms may be pushing the envelope.

[Junior M]

I am kinda in between though, I dont really want my guys to be really dressed up and wearing big thick uniforms. But I dont want my guys looking rough in torn up jeans, and nasty greasy shirts either. Guys in the construction industry already get a bad enough rap, why? I dont know. I just wanted to see what your guys views and opinions on this was..

[bobcat_ron]

The only uniform I wear is a Duck work jacket and blue jeans, and I wear it everywhere, and I still scare the sh*t out of people at ATM's.

[mrsops]

I am kinda in between though, I dont really want my guys to be really dressed up and wearing big thick uniforms. But I dont want my guys looking rough in torn up jeans, and nasty greasy shirts either. Guys in the construction industry already get a bad enough rap, why? I dont know. I just wanted to see what your guys views and opinions on this was..

junior i buy nice lightweight cotton t shirts for my guys to wear in the summer time there so light it don't even feel like you have a shirt on i love them. Also i buy the lighweight dickies pants for them as well everything is very comfortable. I cant tell you how many people have said to me they think its very very professional when 10-15 guys go to a job and they all have the same uniform on its like a baseball team :laugh. Put it this way i hate when i go past a job site and there's 10 guys all standing there half of them have the company t shirt on and the other half have garbage on then they all have different color jeans no way i think that looks like you picked up a bunch of guys off the street

[Junior M]

The only uniform I wear is a Duck work jacket and blue jeans, and I wear it everywhere, and I still scare the sh*t out of people at ATM's.
I wear leevi's or Carhartt's and those green sleeveless shirts I've always got on in the pic's I post on here, I dont scare people I just get funny looks cause half my clothes are covered in oil, grease, and mud stains from working and playing.. Course I get funny looks from people every where I go, maybe its cause I look so dam good ;) :rolleyes: :laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

We just have company shirts and a jacket. Only have the compnay name and logo on it. I don't want my name on my shirt at. If Someone would like to know my name then they will ask or I will tell them. I try to stay out of the grease and dirt so clothes usually last me a while.

[ksss]

The only uniform I wear is a Duck work jacket and blue jeans, and I wear it everywhere, and I still scare the sh*t out of people at ATM's.



Dude, going out on a limb, but I don't think it has anything to do with your clothes.:nono:

[Junior M]

We just have company shirts and a jacket. Only have the compnay name and logo on it. I don't want my name on my shirt at. If Someone would like to know my name then they will ask or I will tell them. I try to stay out of the grease and dirt so clothes usually last me a while.
Well Chris, we know you stay out of the dirt, unless you get a trackhoe stuck.. ;) :laugh:

Sops, I would definetly like my guys to match, but I know what my Dad does with the T shirts he gets from work, he wears them around the house and hardly ever wears them to work. It seems to me like most guys would do the same and I am sure nobody on here would want to drop that much coin for shirts that there employee's wouldnt wear.

[Junior M]

Dude, going out on a limb, but I don't think it has anything to do with your clothes.:nono:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Gravel Rat]

No contractor here uses uniforms the building contractors guys show up in ripped sweat pants and running shoes. It doesn't affect their work they are good carpenters. Most guys wear jeans and a plaid button up shirt or sweater etc.

With all the Workers Comp regs your not seeing a uniform when you have to wear a high vis vest and a brain bucket.

I wear carhartt overalls I never show up in ripped sweat pants :laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

Well Chris, we know you stay out of the dirt, unless you get a trackhoe stuck.. ;) :laugh:

Sops, I would definetly like my guys to match, but I know what my Dad does with the T shirts he gets from work, he wears them around the house and hardly ever wears them to work. It seems to me like most guys would do the same and I am sure nobody on here would want to drop that much coin for shirts that there employee's wouldn't wear.

I had NO part in getting that bad boy stuck, I was 20 miles away when I got the call!

I like to look some what professional when I go to work, I always have a clean set of paints and shirt on, I don't wear ripped or torn paints. I buy the cheap blue jeans from walmart for like 15 bucks each. The look good and are safe to get dirty, that's only when I trip and fall though:laugh:

I can't stand seeing someone come to work "dirty" We hired a truck diver once and I swear he wore the same clothes 3 days in a row, and they were filthy on day one. I bet he had not had a bath in a week:nono:

[CAT powered]

I got my full-timer 7 company t-shirts for Christmas and I gave him and my part-timer 500$ Christmas bonuses. My full-timer got me a Sears gift card.

As for uniforms I don't have any set rules. If they came wearing flip-flops *coughdirtmancough* or tennis shoes then I'd ask them to please wear boots and I certainly pay them well enough that they can afford to buy themselves a proper pair of boots.

Oh and I got a big company shirt (it looks like a dust cover for my truck) for the scale operator at the transfer station we haul out of. He's a big old boy...

[Dirtman2007]

As for uniforms I don't have any set rules. If they came wearing flip-flops *coughdirtmancough* or tennis shoes then I'd ask them to please wear boots and I certainly pay them well enough that they can afford to buy themselves a proper pair of boots.

Easy Killer,

Those are my feet were talking about:laugh:

My Uncle calls them my "operators shoes"

[CAT powered]

Hey if your boss is fine with it go right ahead. I just don't want to explain to my ins. co. why my guy was wearing flip flops when he lost his toes.

[Junior M]

Thats the only thing I think I would ever really enforce would be boots, Imo when you show up in tennis shoes or flip flops it seems like your not really here to work, course when Christ shows up in flip flops, he actually does work ;) :laugh:

[Junior M]

Hey if your boss is fine with it go right ahead. I just don't want to explain to my ins. co. why my guy was wearing flip flops when he lost his toes.
Whats weird, Chris almost lost a toe, and had boots on ;)

[ksss]

Thats the only thing I think I would ever really enforce would be boots, Imo when you show up in tennis shoes or flip flops it seems like your not really here to work, course when Christ shows up in flip flops, he actually does work ;) :laugh:


I don't sweat what my guys wear as long as they don't look like dirt bags. I am big on boots. Don't even show up wearing tennis shoes. I provide gloves and safety/sunglasses. I usually give Carhart jackets for Christmas.

[Dirtman2007]

Thats the only thing I think I would ever really enforce would be boots, Imo when you show up in tennis shoes or flip flops it seems like your not really here to work, course when Christ shows up in flip flops, he actually does work ;) :laugh:

Does Christ show up in flip flops on your jobs too?!

It's not like I wear flip flops everyday to work. I'd say I might wear them one or two days a week in the summer time. I've always got the boots in the truck.

[CAT powered]

I'd think my insurance company would be more understanding if my guy lost his toe even though he was wearing steel toe boots.

[Junior M]

I don't sweat what my guys wear as long as they don't look like dirt bags. I am big on boots. Don't even show up wearing tennis shoes. I provide gloves and safety/sunglasses. I usually give Carhart jackets for Christmas.
You sound just like Dad, he hated it when his guys showed up in tennis shoes, and he usually gave carhartt's for christmas to..

I hate it when the couple guys we get to help us sometimes show up in tennis shoes or shorts, just looks unprofessional and not ready to work like I said before..

[ksss]

I'd think my insurance company would be more understanding if my guy lost his toe even though he was wearing steel toe boots.


I think OSHA would have even bigger heartache with the flip flops.

[Junior M]

Does Christ show up in flip flops on your jobs too?!

It's not like I wear flip flops everyday to work. I'd say I might wear them one or two days a week in the summer time. I've always got the boots in the truck.
No, but we get the occasional Jesus! (A hispanic named Jesus? Get it?) :laugh: I meant Chris, I get typing so fast and not payin attention I start typing the words I hear..

I have no problem with you wearing flip flops Chris I was just saying it wouldnt float with me, but you do something totally different, and its no big deal if you do.. I would love to be able to wear flip flops but flip flops dont work well with a shovel :wall and I hate that dirt between the toes feeling.. :laugh:

[CAT powered]

Yea. Like I said. I pay my guys well enough that they can afford a couple pairs of boots every year. They've got no excuse to not wear them and I haven't had any issues with them not wearing boots. They end up in enough puddles that they appreciate waterproof boots.

[YellowDogSVC]

I am happy if my guys just show up. This business does not seem to attract brain surgeons on a regular basis, so if my guys show up with clean jeans, shoes and socks and the free t-shirts I gave them......I am on a positive roll for the day. We are an independant type to begin with, so uniforms may be pushing the envelope.

This is true. Customers around here seem to care more about price than what the guy doing the work looks like. Seems that when I show up with shiny truck, newer machinery, etc., I still lose a bid to a scraggly old guy who shows up late but works cheap. Thank goodness I tell folks to keep in mind if they aren't happy with the cheap guy.. gets me some clean up work! Still, I want uniforms but know that they would need to be awfully stain resistant. Friggin' grease gets on me and I don't even know where it comes from. I'll take a long, hot shower, lots of soap, and my wife tells me at dinner that I have grease on the back of my arm. How the hell did it get there? I check my shirt and the sleeve is full of grease..??? What the heck?

[Dirtman2007]

Yea. Like I said. I pay my guys well enough that they can afford a couple pairs of boots every year. They've got no excuse to not wear them and I haven't had any issues with them not wearing boots. They end up in enough puddles that they appreciate waterproof boots.

It's 10 degrees up there! Of course your adopt a redneck is not going to be wearing flip flops!

You know you liked the adopt a redneck part. :laugh:

[Junior M]

It's 10 degrees up there! Of course your adopt a redneck is not going to be wearing flip flops!

You know you liked the adopt a redneck part. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

On the way to Ohio last week, I wore flip flops and gym shorts, sure I couldnt feel my feet or legs everytime I got out of the truck but I was comfortable! :cool2: But I am purty sure I wont do it again thou! ;)

[stuvecorp]

I am happy if my guys just show up. This business does not seem to attract brain surgeons on a regular basis, so if my guys show up with clean jeans, shoes and socks and the free t-shirts I gave them......I am on a positive roll for the day. We are an independant type to begin with, so uniforms may be pushing the envelope.

I like that. BCRon also had a good line. I would agree it is a good idea to have at least some company tshirts that you could wear. I like my cutoff army pants and a dri-wik shirt, may not be completely 'professional' but people that hire me seen to like the quirkiness. When its colder, go with jeans and a hoodie or my North Face jacket. I do have company hats I give to subs or homeowners, people really seem to like that.

[CAT powered]

Chris. You're right. I smiled a bit when I read about my adopt a redneck. I hired him on in August. At the time he was in an enclosed dozer w/o AC inside a building. It was probably 110 in the dozer cab and he wore jeans and boots. He whined like a little b*tch, but he dealt with it.

[ksss]

I like that. BCRon also had a good line. I would agree it is a good idea to have at least some company tshirts that you could wear. I like my cutoff army pants and a dri-wik shirt, may not be completely 'professional' but people that hire me seen to like the quirkiness. When its colder, go with jeans and a hoodie or my North Face jacket. I do have company hats I give to subs or homeowners, people really seem to like that.

Last Summer I had a couple hundred 4 inch blade folding knives made. They have a combo blade with my logo etched on the blade. Pretty nice knife for what they are. They have been very well received.

[Junior M]

It was probably 110 in the dozer cab and he wore jeans and boots. He whined like a little b*tch, but he dealt with it.
Hey, now you know what it'd be like if I worked for ya! :laugh: :laugh:

[ksss]

Hey, now you know what it'd be like if I worked for ya! :laugh: :laugh:

There is something to be said for knowing your faults!

[CAT powered]

Junior you wanna come drive a 73,000 pound dozer in 110 degree heat pushing trash in a closed building? If you do I'll pay your room and board. As long as you don't mind eating cereal for every meal and sleeping in a half-remodeled rental house. You've got to supply your ride up and back and you'd better start walking to work early. It's a half hour ride.

[AWJ Services]

If you shop around and do a simple design on the shirts you can get your teeshirts for about 6 dollars a piece.
You cannot get regular Tshirts for much less.
I buy 2 or 3 dozen a year.I also use 2 to 3 shirts a day.
I do to much physical labor.LOL

To save money you can do a Walls jacket instead of a carhart.

Here showing up with an American crew is the most impressive thing possible.LOL

[bobcat_ron]

Dude, going out on a limb, but I don't think it has anything to do with your clothes.:nono:

Really? My mommy says I'm a handsome young man.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/philly_hill_billy/selfpic1Small.jpg

[Junior M]

Here showing up with an American crew is the most impressive thing possible.LOL

Just showing up with someone that can speak english is awesome here!

[Junior M]

Really? My mommy says I'm a handsome young man.
Ron, I saw a CAT vest that was made of the same material as a Carhartt. I saw it and thought, "Hmm, I wonder if Ronnie has one?"

[CAT powered]

So Junior you gonna take me up on my offer or not?

[Junior M]

There is something to be said for knowing your faults!
Why? I know, I bitc# and complain alot, most of it joking, but hey I do, why deny it?!

[Dirtman2007]

Really? My mommy says I'm a handsome young man.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/philly_hill_billy/selfpic1Small.jpg



I told you about hanging your hat over the guages Ron. Soon you will be piling up snow with that!

[Junior M]

So Junior you gonna take me up on my offer or not?
Hmm, I'll wait till I can drive, I am not much of a walkin kinda guy...

Plus, when I can drive, I can go eat something other than cereal, if I can stand that wierd yankee food..

:laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

Hmm, I'll wait till I can drive, I am not much of a walkin kinda guy...

Plus, when I can drive, I can go eat something other than cereal, if I can stand that wierd yankee food..

:laugh:

I don't think they have bojangles that far north. Nothing like getting there before they are open at 5:30 am waiting for a nice hot country ham and egg sanmich!

wooo 110 degrees... I'd have to bust out the flip flops:laugh:

I rather do that then shovel snow in 10 degrees.

[ksss]

Really? My mommy says I'm a handsome young man.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/philly_hill_billy/selfpic1Small.jpg


Yea, well moms have to say that. Trust us we'll tell you the truth.:clapping:

[bobcat_ron]

Ron, I saw a CAT vest that was made of the same material as a Carhartt. I saw it and thought, "Hmm, I wonder if Ronnie has one?"

I haven't gotten any fancy Cat shwag yet, I only have a Cat rain jacket with an inner fleece jacket, Cat C series work gloves, Cat hat, 3 Cat coffee mugs, Cat wristwatch and Cat thong-for those days I'm feeling extra sexy.
I haven't even spoken with the sales dude that sold me my Cat since....well, over a year ago, so I'll assume he'll just throw a bunch of shwag my way again.

[Junior M]

I don't think they have bojangles that far north. Nothing like getting there before they are open at 5:30 am waiting for a nice hot country ham and egg sanmich!

wooo 110 degrees... I'd have to bust out the flip flops:laugh:

I rather do that then shovel snow in 10 degrees.
They dont have Bojangles? :cry: There steak biscuit and seasoned fries with a large sweet tea is just enough to get me outta bed at 5:30 in the morning... Well, now that I found that out CAT, its off! Unless they've got a Lizards Thicket... :laugh:

I think I'll stay with my boots though, I deal with the heat alot better than I do the cold..

[Junior M]

I haven't gotten any fancy Cat shwag yet, I only have a Cat rain jacket with an inner fleece jacket, Cat C series work gloves, Cat hat, 3 Cat coffee mugs, Cat wristwatch and Cat thong-for those days I'm feeling extra sexy.
I haven't even spoken with the sales dude that sold me my Cat since....well, over a year ago, so I'll assume he'll just throw a bunch of shwag my way again.
Oh, that was to much Ronnie! Way to much! I can mail that vest to you if you want.. :laugh:

[CAT powered]

I don't shovel. I use a STIHL KM110 with powersweep attachment. Once the snow gets to be too much for that I switch to a Toro snowthrower. Shovels are obsolete.

[stuvecorp]

I am representing in my spiffy new Versa-Lok jacket, always nice when the salesman stops by and drops stuff off.

[jefftb]

I had a few things to finish since I posted a little while ago. Dang, this took off.

I can tell you that if you have a more professional looking crew wearing logo'd apparel, and your employees are professional, AND you do your work professionally, people will remember you and your company.. I'm talking about the people that you all want to work for-at least from my perspective. These are municipalities, owners, corporations, etc. We usually place a sign on a job were doing with contact information, logo, website etc. I'm a little different than most of members here. We are generally on a job for a significant amount of time and it is usually required that we post several items of information so there is the "tie" in.

The boot comment to me is in line with several others already posted-I would think that my liability insurance would look more favorably on me if I had employees that wore proper clothing for the job at hand. If i had an employee arrive in flip flops they would not work. I let the tennis shoes slide for the day given that I had "light" work for this employee to perform. Had it been a heavier day they would not have even been allowed in the crew truck.:nono: When you are calling the shots and its your liability insurance then wear whatever the heck you want.

I'm going to make a suggest that if you are buying Carhartt for your employees there are other alternatives that are much more price competitive. There is a certain clothing company (known in the ARBOR circles that you really ought to WEAR) that provides attractive pricing if you meet their minimum corporate status piece rate. Also their logo piece rate was quite competitive. I was astonished recently to get the quote on the stuff. Don't expect the product range that Carhartt provides but they meet the requirements for most of what I provide beyond t-shirts.

(JR-there's CODE above-not military grade cipher key code mind you, but Code nonetheless.):rolleyes:

[Dirtman2007]

I don't shovel. I use a STIHL KM110 with powersweep attachment. Once the snow gets to be too much for that I switch to a Toro snowthrower. Shovels are obsolete.

Then why did you make you fellow redneck shovel out in front of the shop for? Just to see him waddle cause he had 8 layers on:laugh:

[Junior M]

I can tell you that if you have a more professional looking crew wearing logo'd apparel, and your employees are professional, AND you do your work professionally, people will remember you and your company..

(JR-there's CODE above-not military grade cipher key code mind you, but Code nonetheless.):rolleyes:



That is what I want, people on here decal there trucks expect it to get them work, well none of these shirts, jackets, decals really gets you work, its more a people know you thing. And thats what I want, I want people to see my trucks go by and automatically go "Oh, hey I know who that is" Or some random person reads my company name on the back of one of my guys shirt and think "Oh, hey thats that guy in so and so truck" And I want to do it because everybody down here runs a plain white truck, the occasional one has a decal but very few. and if I could run red trucks that are lettered, people would remember me...

As for the last part,:confused: you lost me?

[CAT powered]

I don't shovel fluffy snow. I had to push my GMC plow into the shop so it was packed down where the duals were. He was scraping up the tire tracks and right next to the door.

Plus I found it amusing and I'm his boss so he does what I say.

[Gravel Rat]

If the workers compensation board visits your work site and sees operators wearing flip flops the contractor gets shut down and receives a nice fine.

Most job sites a excavation contractor works on you would twist a ankle wearing running shoes.

[jefftb]

.

As for the last part,:confused: you lost me?

Ahh, crap, where's that decoder ring.....

[Junior M]

Ahh, crap, where's that decoder ring.....
Yeah, I am purty sure your just messing with me.. I think :confused:

:laugh: :laugh:

[Construct'O]

Last Summer I had a couple hundred 4 inch blade folding knives made. They have a combo blade with my logo etched on the blade. Pretty nice knife for what they are. They have been very well received.

Lets hope they don't show up on any crime scene soon !!!!!!

Hopefully it doesn't have to do with disgrutly customer and contractor:confused::usflag:

[jefftb]

Yeah, I am purty sure your just messing with me.. I think :confused:

:laugh: :laugh:

Rather than blatantly promote the company I chose to subliminally promote it. How about that? Am I still messing with you?

[Gravel Rat]

I heard Juniors mom likes people in uniform especially the ones that bring her son home in a squad car :laugh:

[dozerman21]

Lets hope they don't show up on any crime scene soon !!!!!!

Hopefully it doesn't have to do with disgrutly customer and contractor:confused::usflag:


I figured he bought the knives for the inmates to peel the 'taters, after he did a job at the Idaho State Penitentury.:laugh:

[stuvecorp]

I had a few things to finish since I posted a little while ago. Dang, this took off.

I can tell you that if you have a more professional looking crew wearing logo'd apparel, and your employees are professional, AND you do your work professionally, people will remember you and your company.. I'm talking about the people that you all want to work for-at least from my perspective. These are municipalities, owners, corporations, etc. We usually place a sign on a job were doing with contact information, logo, website etc. I'm a little different than most of members here. We are generally on a job for a significant amount of time and it is usually required that we post several items of information so there is the "tie" in.

The boot comment to me is in line with several others already posted-I would think that my liability insurance would look more favorably on me if I had employees that wore proper clothing for the job at hand. If i had an employee arrive in flip flops they would not work. I let the tennis shoes slide for the day given that I had "light" work for this employee to perform. Had it been a heavier day they would not have even been allowed in the crew truck.:nono: When you are calling the shots and its your liability insurance then wear whatever the heck you want.

I'm going to make a suggest that if you are buying Carhartt for your employees there are other alternatives that are much more price competitive. There is a certain clothing company (known in the ARBOR circles that you really ought to WEAR) that provides attractive pricing if you meet their minimum corporate status piece rate. Also their logo piece rate was quite competitive. I was astonished recently to get the quote on the stuff. Don't expect the product range that Carhartt provides but they meet the requirements for most of what I provide beyond t-shirts.

(JR-there's CODE above-not military grade cipher key code mind you, but Code nonetheless.):rolleyes:

Once you start doing jobs at your level(bigger company, bigger jobs, bigger clients) that all makes sense. It probably wouldn't hurt me to start trying harder on stuff like this.

[ksss]

I figured he bought the knives for the inmates to peel the 'taters, after he did a job at the Idaho State Penitentury.:laugh:

The Penn. is in Boise about 5 hours away. I did have a weeks worth of work in Dec. at the local county jail however.

[Junior M]

Rather than blatantly promote the company I chose to subliminally promote it. How about that? Am I still messing with you?
That was to many big words that I am not goin to try and look up...

[jefftb]

Great Scott man, you've got the world's largest dictionary/encyclopedia right there on your computer. Google them up, should take less than 30 seconds.

Even wikipedia would most likely provide the correct information on these two.

[Junior M]

Great Scott man, you've got the world's largest dictionary/encyclopedia right there on your computer. Google them up, should take less than 30 seconds.

Even wikipedia would most likely provide the correct information on these two.
Ehhh, I am lazy, I think'll stay dumbfounded..

:laugh: I kinda sorta used a big word..

[YellowDogSVC]

If you shop around and do a simple design on the shirts you can get your teeshirts for about 6 dollars a piece.
You cannot get regular Tshirts for much less.
I buy 2 or 3 dozen a year.I also use 2 to 3 shirts a day.
I do to much physical labor.LOL

To save money you can do a Walls jacket instead of a carhart.

Here showing up with an American crew is the most impressive thing possible.LOL

where have you found the tees?

[AWJ Services]

I get mine from a local mom and pop place.
Stay single color and I have a print front and back.
The shirts are only about 3 bucks for a heavy tee.
So they still make about 3 bucks a shirt for their work.
It takes no time to do a one color print.
They can do 3 dozens shirts front and back in about 20 minutes.
These are work shirts so keep them simple.
Have some button ups done with a nice embroidery logo and you can slip it on when talking to customers.

[Twitchy]

I for one think it looks very professional pulling up to a job and everyone has the same uniform on. I give my guys company t shirts, sweaters, and i just bought my top 10 guys brand new $100 carharrt jackets for Christmas. I also buy them all 6 pairs of blue dickies pants for the year. I agree some of my guys do get alot of grease stains and stuff like that on the shirts and pants but what can you do. The only thing i do not buy them is work boots there on there own for that. O yeah i forgot i also get company hats as well
I also think that uniforms look professional, especially when you run larger crews. My father spends alot of money every season on jackets, t-shirts, sweatshirts and hats so the crews look good. Not only do they wear it, but they appreciate it as well. A clean company shirt, long pants and work boots are expected everyday. Not only do uniforms look professional, there great advertisment as well.

[ford550]

We have company policy on uniforms. They must were logoed apparel, specific pants and steel toe boots at all times. Are average time on a jobsite is 3 weeks and I have three install crews. It is just professional to look uniformed and most of my work comes by word of mouth and by the client seeing us at job site. All our trucks are ordered and look the same as well. No white here. If the employee doesn't show up uniformed they don't get to work that day. Trust me, one day of not getting paid and they don't forget to wear their uniforms again. As far as the steel toe thing, it's a safety thing. Say what you want, but they do work, that is a fact. If OSHA shows up, you won't have to worry about being in business anymore with the fines you are going to get. Because they won't just stop at employee boots, the fines will go on to every little thing that is dangerous on that site. With the comments that have been going on this thread, no wonder the cliet/customer has the expectations they do about the industry. Dress for success as I always say.

[YellowDogSVC]

With the comments that have been going on this thread, no wonder the cliet/customer has the expectations they do about the industry.

Does this include grammar and spelling? :laugh:

[AWJ Services]

Does this include grammar and spelling?

Thats funny.
I guess if I dress my kids in uniforms there grades will go up?

[jefftb]

Thats funny.
I guess if I dress my kids in uniforms there grades will go up?

If so, they must not have been required at ford550's schools.....:waving::laugh:

[Junior M]

Thats funny.
I guess if I dress my kids in uniforms there grades will go up?
Will my intelligence go up if I wear a uniform to school? ;) :laugh:

[oakhillslandscaping]

my crew memebers have to wear tan pants and a black or brown belt and i provide them with shirts (preferably tucked in) and sweatshirts so that they dont look like a bunch of scrubs, i dont care if they are leonardo davinchi with a machine or a mower they need to look nice cause 80% of the population do judge a book by its cover just my $.02

[Scag48]

Interesting thread. My dad has had embroidered t-shirts since his second year in business, so he's going on 4 seasons of that deal. He gives 3-4 to each of the guys, they don't wear them every day, but occasionally and it's a lax policy. My dad always wears his, he also had a decent looking vest done up (I know what you're thinking, vest?!) and he'll wear that in the cooler months of the season. For landscaping, I think uniforms are a good idea, shows you have your crap together. When potential customers already know that the landscape industry, at least on the labor employee end, is full of nimrods, at least you can fool the public buy dressing the boys up before they go out.

As for construction, unless you're management I don't see the point. Typically you're not involved with the public as much as a landscape crew nor are you typically as visible. My crew did require safety t-shirts if you weren't wearing a safety vest, boots, brain bucket, safety glasses and depending on the job gloves could be required as well.

[Junior M]

Interesting thread. My dad has had embroidered t-shirts since his second year in business, so he's going on 4 seasons of that deal. He gives 3-4 to each of the guys, they don't wear them every day, but occasionally and it's a lax policy. My dad always wears his, he also had a decent looking vest done up (I know what you're thinking, vest?!) and he'll wear that in the cooler months of the season. For landscaping, I think uniforms are a good idea, shows you have your crap together. When potential customers already know that the landscape industry, at least on the labor employee end, is full of nimrods, at least you can fool the public buy dressing the boys up before they go out.

As for construction, unless you're management I don't see the point. Typically you're not involved with the public as much as a landscape crew nor are you typically as visible. My crew did require safety t-shirts if you weren't wearing a safety vest, boots, brain bucket, safety glasses and depending on the job gloves could be required as well.
You dont even think like guys that do residential work, like me, AWJ, who deal with homeowners shouldnt be uniformed? What do ya think about that?

I am still kind of in between on the whole thing, I know where Yellow is coming from about getting dirty, but what Sops is saying about looking proffesional and knowing who you are makes sense to..

[Scag48]

I've found that if you do residential excavation, just having a completely unlettered t-shirt tucked in works well enough. It's not a uniform so much, but you can get a 4 pack of Hanes t-shirts for about $10. That's uniform enough for that crowd, IMO.

[Bleed Green]

I had to wear uniforms in school from the second grade through high school. That was one plus to going to college, the uniforms were not required anymore haha.

[CAT powered]

Will my intelligence go up if I wear a uniform to school?

Well it sure as hell can't go down! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[duramaxguy87]

I work construction.. granted I am on the project managemet side, I feel all trades should care about their apparence. clean clothes, company shirt none ripped jeans, belt and boots are fine. On our jobs, we institute a dress code that all trades must abide by. For pms, we wear an oxford shirts, dress pants and dress shoes to the job site every day. Meeting require a full suit.

[CAT powered]

A suit for a meeting that has to do with sitework? There's a first. I just make sure I don't stink too bad and I keep a "meeting shirt" behind the seat that is relatively grease-free to put on.

[stuvecorp]

I work construction.. granted I am on the project managemet side, I feel all trades should care about their apparence. clean clothes, company shirt none ripped jeans, belt and boots are fine. On our jobs, we institute a dress code that all trades must abide by. For pms, we wear an oxford shirts, dress pants and dress shoes to the job site every day. Meeting require a full suit.

That would be rough!

I may not look professional but act professional. I am residential so I can get away with it. Doing bigger stuff, it is I think mandatory. I will probably do up some dri-wik shirts with the logo for next year as well as some t-shirts.

[duramaxguy87]

you guys have to remember our jobs range from 25 million to 250 million dollars, so getting dressed up is common practice. As Stuvecorp said you may not look professional but you act must proffessional. THIS APPLIES EVERYWHERE! WRITE IT DOWN. If I was doing residential and small commerical I would definatly go back to the jeans, boots and teeshirt look, maybee a golfshirt with a company logo to wear for estimates

[stuvecorp]

you guys have to remember our jobs range from 25 million to 250 million dollars, so getting dressed up is common practice. As Stuvecorp said you may not look professional but you act must proffessional. THIS APPLIES EVERYWHERE! WRITE IT DOWN. If I was doing residential and small commerical I would definatly go back to the jeans, boots and teeshirt look, maybee a golfshirt with a company logo to wear for estimates

I kinda figured you must have been in the bigger end when you said a suit.

[crab]

duramax max where are you in mass,i would be happy to help for one or two million (i own 2 suits so i am ready to go).if i wanted a dress code i would work in a office,my guys have hats t shirts and sweat shirts other than that i could care less(except for flip flops like some guys here)based on the glut of crooks in suits lately i think spit shined appearance my not have the cache it used to .that is not directed at you .:canadaflag:

[Construct'O]

Sometimes looking pretty doesn't get the job done! Working in muddy conditions 90% of the time mean your not going to be going home clean:cry:

I agree if job site and work is suitable then uniforms is great in ideal,but the actualy work is what's going to sell the job and furture work.Great looking crew or crew member that doesn't perform also leave a lasting impression,and it wasn't their looks!

Always notice who usual jumps in the trench first????? It normally isn't the clean guys:)

My logo would have to say" it's a dirty job! but someones got to do it "also rubber knee boots with steel toes is hard to find!:rolleyes:

For my crew in the winter parkas,gloves,and insulated snowboots.Spring and summer.Sun galsses,sun screen,t-shirt with above logo,and knee high rubber mud boots.Last but not least"STRAW HATS":drinkup::usflag:

[RockSet N' Grade]

Constructo.........gotta take a picture of my straw hat and post it for you. I call it my 20-600 model. Drove down to Mexico and paid $20 for it, but it cost me $600 in beer and food before I got out of there........more beer than food I may add. ......who in their right mind would decide one day they wanted a straw hat and drive from Utah to Mexico just for a hat and then drive back........yours truly.

[crab]

i cant claim to be in that scope of job ,and at that point it does become big business and that's fine,my biggest thing is teach you're guys not to be ****** bags if someone is looking around ,is interested ,has stupid question's stop for 3 seconds say hello,if you don't have the answers send them to me,just being decent has made me a lot of money.

[crab]

rockset drive out east i will sell you a 400$ dollar clam and put you up for the night!

[Gravel Rat]

I never seen such emphasis on uniforms :dizzy: It sounds like some of you run a company like a private school.

The employers here are more concerned about employees that show up in clothes designed for work. You can't show up in shorts and flip flops.

The forestry guys and B.C. Hydro their uniform is orange overalls or coveralls with refective stripes or reflective shirts. In the mines its reflective coveralls.

In my mind safety first. Wearing sweat pants isn't classed as safe even wearing those thin work pants like dickies are not really that good.

Say on a jobsite here like a construction site the ground its pretty rough not much soft dirt. You trip and fall jeans are the only thing that is going to protect your legs and keep you from creating a second hole in your rump.

There has been times if I wasn't wearing carhartt overalls I would have a good gash in my leg etc. When I'am working in construction I wear carhartt overalls all year round. I wear them over jeans in the winter and wear dickies work pants in the summer. They are thinner so its not so hot. If its too hot in the summer ya I hate weather that is hotter than 25 celcius 77 Farenheit I will wear just mechanics coveralls with my underwear.

That is the coolest option is wear mechanics coveralls and its better than wearing shorts. It is the way you work in the gravel mines because it can get hotter than a itch.

[RockSet N' Grade]

crab.......if you're talkin' steamed kohogs and lobster, i just may do it......

[crab]

the thought of you naked in bibs with you're mustache makes my skin crawl,it is impossible to ignore you.have you ever worked in a gravel mine?:cry:

[crab]

i am my friend ,bugs are gross but i just ate some great scallops .do you have any recipes for lizard?

[SuperDuty335]

77 degrees? :laugh::laugh:You haven't started living until it gets 105 with NC humidity.

[Junior M]

Well it sure as hell can't go down! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Thats what I was thinkin! :cool2: Now if it would up my intelligence, I could confuse KSSS with big words...

:laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

77 degrees? :laugh::laugh:You haven't started living until it gets 105 with NC humidity.

You ain't joking.... and they laugh at me for wearing flip flops. Atleast I'm comfy:laugh:

[Gravel Rat]

When the temperature gets up to 30 celcius 86 farenhiet nobody is working it is just too hot. Its not something your used to so you can end up with heat stroke.

[Junior M]

When the temperature gets up to 30 celcius 86 farenhiet nobody is working it is just too hot. Its not something your used to so you can end up with heat stroke.
Come work in SC, its been over 110 before and we're still goin, its rough, but we get the work done..http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/MSN_Emoticons/MSN-Emoticon-hot-023.gif Its been so hot I've jumped in the pool and its not even refreshing, its hot to, almost like a bath...

[Gravel Rat]

If you are a excavation contractor you have to stop legally if the weather gets too dry. Fire is a big worry with building lots here covered with evergreen trees one spark from a bucket rubbing over a rock can create a spark. Even a ciggarette butt thrown on the ground in some grass can cause a fire.

In the summer time who wants to be working in the high heat of late July and the month of August. Go play with boats or be at the beach or at one of the lakes. Summer time is skin time drive by the popular swimming holes the the females are out with barely anything on to nothing on.

When its hot you start at 5:30-6 am and quit at lunch time.

[Dirtman2007]

When the temperature gets up to 30 celcius 86 farenhiet nobody is working it is just too hot. Its not something your used to so you can end up with heat stroke.

86 degrees... Hell I'm loving that, Hot's when you can't even walk bear foot on concrete cause its about 110+ degrees.
A hot summer day in NC is this, along with 80- 90% humidity, talk about toasty

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/011-6.jpg



I can't take the cold and ya'll can't take the heat:laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

If you are a excavation contractor you have to stop legally if the weather gets too dry. Fire is a big worry with building lots here covered with evergreen trees one spark from a bucket rubbing over a rock can create a spark. Even a ciggarette butt thrown on the ground in some grass can cause a fire.

In the summer time who wants to be working in the high heat of late July and the month of August. Go play with boats or be at the beach or at one of the lakes. Summer time is skin time drive by the popular swimming holes the the females are out with barely anything on to nothing on.

When its hot you start at 5:30-6 am and quit at lunch time.



With the way you make things sound up there, I'd be working every damn day possible!

[Gravel Rat]

You get used to the heat if your in it all the time. I worked for some people from California what they thought was no problem was way too hot for me.

The other day one of my brothers friends was out in T shirt I said to him your not cold he said no. When you get used to -40 nothing is cold he works in the oil fields of Alberta.

Here on the west coast its rain and more rain and when the wind blows it drives the rain at you like little bullets. If you don't have good rain gear you could be soaked in minutes and its miserable working soaking wet.

You can have a whole month of nothing but rain you have no choice but work in it. A whole month can go by and you may not even see the sun poke through the clouds or see any blue sky.

[jefftb]

Let's see, 86 degrees and nearly no humidity is hot and unbearable.

Crap, that statement is just utterly ridiculous.......:hammerhead::dizzy:

[SLC, LLC]

Absolutely uniforms. Everyone looks the same. Everyone gets all their uniforms supplied by me. Some may not agree with this, but that is just how I feel. Green khaki pants and/or shorts for when the weather is warm. Yellow buttom down shirt with logo embroidered on the left chest, grey 1/4 zip sweatshirt material pullover with logo screen printed, and long sleeve grey t-shirts with logo screen printed. each guy is also supplied with hats with logo embroidered. The only thing that team members are responsible for are their boots.

I ust like the look, and by the response we get - so do our clients.

[Junior M]

86 degrees... Hell I'm loving that, Hot's when you can't even walk bear foot on concrete cause its about 110+ degrees.
A hot summer day in NC is this, along with 80- 90% humidity, talk about toasty




I can't take the cold and ya'll can't take the heat:laugh:
Its got so hot they've had heat warnings out, just like tornado and thunderstorm warnings.

If its that hot and we're doing something other than dirt work, we'll start as early as the h/o will let us, and work till 11 or 12. But if we're doing dirt work, all bets are off, we keep going, all day. And once your out in the heat, nothing makes it worse than getting in the A/C and then getting back out in to the heat. I cant do it, I get almost sick to my stomach..

[Scag48]

We took a small pit stop one night about 2 weeks ago while out grooming. This was when there was a serious cold spell throughout all of WA, now we're getting a sweet pineapple express, but that's another story. Anyway, air temp was around -5 with a 5 MPH breeze. I was wearing jeans and a t-shirt with base layer top and bottoms. I could handle about 5 minutes of that and that was it, I had to jump back in my cat. -15 with windchill and pretty much no jacket or hat, you get used to the cold. We shovel tillers in the mornings before shutting down, I've become accustomed to no jacket, hat, or gloves for 20 minutes outside at 15+ degrees.

To tie that into uniforms, I think uniforms need to be tailored given the climate you're in. Sure you could give a guy a t-shirt to wear, but if he's wearing a jacket, what good does the t-shirt do? That needs to be taken into consideration as well.

[Dirtman2007]

Its got so hot they've had heat warnings out, just like tornado and thunderstorm warnings.

If its that hot and we're doing something other than dirt work, we'll start as early as the h/o will let us, and work till 11 or 12. But if we're doing dirt work, all bets are off, we keep going, all day. And once your out in the heat, nothing makes it worse than getting in the A/C and then getting back out in to the heat. I cant do it, I get almost sick to my stomach..

On those day I have to reach over and hit my climate control button in the cab of the volvo, I usually set it on about 22 celcius. I don't know what that converts into F, but it puts condensation on the windows!

[JayD]

I for one think it looks very professional pulling up to a job and everyone has the same uniform on. I give my guys company t shirts, sweaters, and i just bought my top 10 guys brand new $100 carharrt jackets for Christmas. I also buy them all 6 pairs of blue dickies pants for the year. I agree some of my guys do get alot of grease stains and stuff like that on the shirts and pants but what can you do. The only thing i do not buy them is work boots there on there own for that. O yeah i forgot i also get company hats as well

Where do you buy your hats from.....
and are you happy with them....I'm having a hard time finding what I like in a hat..........One that stands up in the front! not lay flat and look all worn out even when they are new...

[JayD]

I like that. BCRon also had a good line. I would agree it is a good idea to have at least some company tshirts that you could wear. I like my cutoff army pants and a dri-wik shirt, may not be completely 'professional' but people that hire me seen to like the quirkiness. When its colder, go with jeans and a hoodie or my North Face jacket. I do have company hats I give to subs or homeowners, people really seem to like that.

Where do you get your hats from.

[stuvecorp]

Where do you get your hats from.

I got them from a local place that does my graphics. They had all kinds of catalogs and picked out a couple I like and they got some in as sample and then picked out of those. I'm pretty happy with them. The hat was a Flexfit - I think that was the name.

[Junior M]

this thread got me to thinking, we all say uniforms are more professional and should be worn and all that good stuff..

But how many of yall actually follow through and get company shirts and things like that? I for one havent got squat besides a Carhartt..

[YellowDogSVC]

this thread got me to thinking, we all say uniforms are more professional and should be worn and all that good stuff..

But how many of yall actually follow through and get company shirts and things like that? I for one havent got squat besides a Carhartt..

I know companies doing just fine without uniforms, advertising, or signage on vehicles.

I toyed around with uniform shirts and shorts. Fixing one or two hydraulic leaks destroyed 2 pairs of uniform. Long pants are not comfortable for me getting in and out of the cab. I wear khaki shorts and T-shirts. I dress nice for my bids..then look like a homeless guy when working! :) Not really, but I don't wear nice clothes to work anymore. Too many brushes with excess grease, oil stains, chainsaws spitting, and tears from walking in the woods made it an expensive endeavor.

[Gravel Rat]

Most landscape companies or excavation contractors don't have uniforms too expensive. Customers are not looking at what your employees look like they are looking at the job they are doing. The employees can't look like slobs thou.

The wearing of sweat pants isn't professional looking.

[jimmyjack]

every company ive worked for , provided at least company t shirts , two of the company got u 7 t shirts , 7 tank tops then inthe winter u could get get hooded sweat shirts on non hooded ones, then they gave u one heavy charhartt coat ......they didnt care in the summer if u had pants or shorts on as long as they werent sweatpants and u still had workboots on.. me personally i ALWAYs wear pants.....to me it looks good when every wears the same shirt , but now those companys have now have made there company shirts from being the company colors to the high vis yellow .....and for that i really think its good to have everybody in high vis it makes a big difference when your working around people

on a side note both company's i drove truck for also gave u time to wash the trucks once a week and clean the chrome...clean looking guys clean trucks clean equipment , looks professional and like u take pride in what your doing , like someone said before first impressions speak loudly ......ive been out talking with someone i didnt know , they asked were i worked , i told them and they were like the company with the really nice looking peterbuilts i said yup , then they went on to tell me how much they liked the trucks .... like i said first impressions mean a lot

[SpecOne]

Well, I don't really have a uniform for my guys, but due to the nature of our work, all workers on job-site are required to wear hi-vis safety vests (which have the company logo on the back) and brain buckets (which also have company decals on them). Also want them to wear work boots, with some of them depending on what they are doing having to wear steel-toed work boots. Of course the company does provide for the boots, vests, and hardhats. As far as what else they wear, I just want it to be clean (at least at the beginning of the work day) and not in tatters - I want it to show that they have pride in not only their work but their appearance as well.

As far as foremen, superintendents, and office personnel, I do provide shirts with company logo. I also require all employees, if they are going to wear a hat on company time, to wear one with a company logo. A local graphics shop lets me mix and match hats, so pretty much what ever type of hat you want to wear, you can wear, just as long as the company logo is on it, anything from the standard baseball hat to one guy that likes the boonie type hats. I as well give company-logoed jackets as christmas and incentive gifts.

Again it all goes back to pride in what you do - and I think it should show through EVERY thing you do!

[Gravel Rat]

Coveralls are a good uniform you can get them in any color and any size. In the summer time your employees can be wearing shorts under the coveralls it keeps you cool.

In the excavation industry your going to get greasy and grubby so buying good T shirts or good pants is a waste in my mind.

[Junior M]

Coveralls are a good uniform you can get them in any color and any size. In the summer time your employees can be wearing shorts under the coveralls it keeps you cool.

In the excavation industry your going to get greasy and grubby so buying good T shirts or good pants is a waste in my mind.
I invite you to come down here for a summer and work in coveralls.. :laugh:

[DaveAust]

Now I don't want anyone to take this personally, but seeing as we're talking about presenting a good image here, what about if you're a bit, (how can I put this politely), fat.:eek:

I know the US and Australia as well as a lot of other countries have an obesity problem. I'm a fairly lean kinda guy, I like to keep reasonably fit and look after myself with good healthy food and plenty of it. However when I see someone presenting themselves to do a job and there are double chins, thick necks and a gut that hangs way over the belt and makes it impossible for the owner to see their toes or their gentlemans tools I can't help but be a bit judgmental.

I mean I feel the guy, (or woman for that matter), could have a heart attack if they worked the the pace I'd like, if there was any physical exertion required. If I wanted them to come walking through a bit of bush and through the wires of a fence to inspect a site I don't want them to get stuck or collapse from heatstroke in the reasonably warm weather we have in Australia.:australiaflag:

I see a lot of guys on this site look after their trucks, polish them more than I ever would, but some are from their photos a bit on the porky side. Do they treat their machines better than themselves? If you were picking someone to do a job and all other things being equal, you had to choose between a fit looking person and someone who had a decent set of man boobs, which would you choose?? Do you equate someone who looks who looks fit and capable as more likely to do a better job than someone who's carrying some flab?

Once again don't take this personally, but it's a bit of a worry when people in their late thirties and forties start gettin' heart problems and other diseases that I always thought people faced when they sat on their arse after retiring in their seventies!

So does physical appearance from the person inside the uniform matter?

Have a great New Year, Dave

[bobcat_ron]

Now I don't want anyone to take this personally, but seeing as we're talking about presenting a good image here, what about if you're a bit, (how can I put this politely), fat.:eek:

I know the US and Australia as well as a lot of other countries have an obesity problem. I'm a fairly lean kinda guy, I like to keep reasonably fit and look after myself with good healthy food and plenty of it. However when I see someone presenting themselves to do a job and there are double chins, thick necks and a gut that hangs way over the belt and makes it impossible for the owner to see their toes or their gentlemans tools I can't help but be a bit judgmental.

I mean I feel the guy, (or woman for that matter), could have a heart attack if they worked the the pace I'd like, if there was any physical exertion required. If I wanted them to come walking through a bit of bush and through the wires of a fence to inspect a site I don't want them to get stuck or collapse from heatstroke in the reasonably warm weather we have in Australia.:australiaflag:

I see a lot of guys on this site look after their trucks, polish them more than I ever would, but some are from their photos a bit on the porky side. Do they treat their machines better than themselves? If you were picking someone to do a job and all other things being equal, you had to choose between a fit looking person and someone who had a decent set of man boobs, which would you choose?? Do you equate someone who looks who looks fit and capable as more likely to do a better job than someone who's carrying some flab?

Once again don't take this personally, but it's a bit of a worry when people in their late thirties and forties start gettin' heart problems and other diseases that I always thought people faced when they sat on their arse after retiring in their seventies!

So does physical appearance from the person inside the uniform matter?

Have a great New Year, Dave

Screw physical appearance, don't judge a book by it's cover, I know a few people (myself being one) that look like sh*t and they are one of the best skidsteer/hoe/dozer operators out there.

But I plan on being dead by the time I'm 45.

Or married, which ever one makes me want to suffer the longest first.

[JayD]

Now I don't want anyone to take this personally, but seeing as we're talking about presenting a good image here, what about if you're a bit, (how can I put this politely), fat.:eek:

I know the US and Australia as well as a lot of other countries have an obesity problem. I'm a fairly lean kinda guy, I like to keep reasonably fit and look after myself with good healthy food and plenty of it. However when I see someone presenting themselves to do a job and there are double chins, thick necks and a gut that hangs way over the belt and makes it impossible for the owner to see their toes or their gentlemans tools I can't help but be a bit judgmental.

I mean I feel the guy, (or woman for that matter), could have a heart attack if they worked the the pace I'd like, if there was any physical exertion required. If I wanted them to come walking through a bit of bush and through the wires of a fence to inspect a site I don't want them to get stuck or collapse from heatstroke in the reasonably warm weather we have in Australia.:australiaflag:

I see a lot of guys on this site look after their trucks, polish them more than I ever would, but some are from their photos a bit on the porky side. Do they treat their machines better than themselves? If you were picking someone to do a job and all other things being equal, you had to choose between a fit looking person and someone who had a decent set of man boobs, which would you choose?? Do you equate someone who looks who looks fit and capable as more likely to do a better job than someone who's carrying some flab?

Once again don't take this personally, but it's a bit of a worry when people in their late thirties and forties start gettin' heart problems and other diseases that I always thought people faced when they sat on their arse after retiring in their seventies!

So does physical appearance from the person inside the uniform matter?

Have a great New Year, Dave

OK.........If no one wants to say it....... I WILL!:realmad::wall

OK Dr. PHILL.....You may not have a problem with your weight, BUT.....you do have a problem.....You may not have meant to offend anyone but I'm sure you did....I know sometimes the truth does hurt but your way out of line with your attack oh heavy people and that is what it is, an attack.....So what, you have a slim body and maybe you do look good, but guess what pal, every one of us has something with them that is not perfect, and yes, including YOU! whether you admit it or not is another story.
So get down off of your high horse and find something else to talk about...

Sorry to the rest of you for blowing up......you may not have been offended and therefore see no reason for my post...................But I was!!!!!:nono:

[Gravel Rat]

I invite you to come down here for a summer and work in coveralls.. :laugh:

I mean mechanics coveralls I have used them and they keep you cooler than wearing anything else. They are loose and when you wear either your underwear or a pair of short under them with no shirt.

I learned it from ship engineers where a engine room in a ship is broiling hot. They even soak the coveralls down in water in a sink put them on dripping wet in 5 minutes they are dry from the heat.

[Gravel Rat]

Screw physical appearance, don't judge a book by it's cover, I know a few people (myself being one) that look like sh*t and they are one of the best skidsteer/hoe/dozer operators out there.

But I plan on being dead by the time I'm 45.

Or married, which ever one makes me want to suffer the longest first.

Ron you say I have a sh*tty outlook but I don't plan on being dead by 45. I don't think getting married is a good idea anybody I know that is married is miserable.

[Junior M]

Ron you say I have a sh*tty outlook but I don't plan on being dead by 45. I don't think getting married is a good idea anybody I know that is married is miserable.
This coming from the man living in his mommy's basement at age 30.. :laugh:

[jimmyjack]

This coming from the man living in his mommy's basement at age 30.. :laugh:

ouch!:laugh:

[Gravel Rat]

This coming from the man living in his mommy's basement at age 30.. :laugh:

I'am 33 :laugh:

No places to rent around here unless you want to pay 1200 a month and when there is a place for rent its gone pretty quickly.

There is a place coming up for rent it is about 700 square feet you have a kitchen-bedroom and bathroom all as one room. Actually the bathroom has walls but the rest is one room. All for 500 a month :laugh:

[stuvecorp]

I'am 33 :laugh:

No places to rent around here unless you want to pay 1200 a month and when there is a place for rent its gone pretty quickly.

There is a place coming up for rent it is about 700 square feet you have a kitchen-bedroom and bathroom all as one room. Actually the bathroom has walls but the rest is one room. All for 500 a month :laugh:

Remember GR - get me two shipping containers and an Ikea catalog and any lot will do. There is no such thing as unbuildable, you can have a killer domicile.:waving:

[SpecOne]

Remember GR - get me two shipping containers and an Ikea catalog and any lot will do. There is no such thing as unbuildable, you can have a killer domicile.:waving:

Make one of them a hi-cube and you could have vaulted ceilings!! :cool2: :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Junior M]

I'am 33 :laugh:

No places to rent around here unless you want to pay 1200 a month and when there is a place for rent its gone pretty quickly.

There is a place coming up for rent it is about 700 square feet you have a kitchen-bedroom and bathroom all as one room. Actually the bathroom has walls but the rest is one room. All for 500 a month :laugh:
I know its expensive to live up there, you've pretty much drove it in my head with a nail and hammer...

but you left that one open so I had to take advantage of it! :drinkup: