What size bucket?

[Junior M]

I am settin here trying to figure out what all I need to get from Bobcat on rental for that clearing job, and come up with a rough price from the rental sheet I've got here. And it occured to me I have no clue what bucket to use on the 337 or 442, whichever is in stock. They've got 12in, 24in, and 36in. I was thinking the 36in for everything, but then it occured to me that there might be some stumps to dig up, and you wouldnt want to use a 36in for that, maybe a 12in so your not moving so much dirt?

What size buckets do yall think?

Btw this is my 2,500th post.. :cool2:

[Scag48]

Any digging or is it strictly clearing? If no digging, the 36" will be alright. I ran a 337 with a 24" and that's almost the most bucket I'd recommend for that machine while seriously digging. Go with a 12" for the stumps.

[Junior M]

Any digging or is it strictly clearing? If no digging, the 36" will be alright. I ran a 337 with a 24" and that's almost the most bucket I'd recommend for that machine while seriously digging. Go with a 12" for the stumps.
I guess you havent read the "Clearing Techniques" thread, I posted. We got that one acre to clear, pile everything, dig a hole to put it all in and burn the brush in the hole, there might be some stumps in there I am not totally sure about which big tree's she wants taken out.. I havent ran a 337 with any thing bigger than a 12in, but Bobcat is giving such a great discount on rental right now, even better than what we got before, that we dont have a choice but use them, plus I dont want to charge these people alot, I want to work for this lady on her horse farm this summer, and her husband is a member of the same motorcycle club Dad is in...

[Scag48]

Eh, run it, whatever. 337 isn't my favorite excavator, far from it, but it'll get the job done.

[Dirtman2007]

Does the machine have a Q/C? If so get a 36" and a 12" for the stumps. If no q/c I'd go for the 24" bucket. Although you can still dig up stumps with a 36", you just end up having a bigger hole to fill in.

[bobcatexc]

JR, I've set back and keep my mouth shut about your clearing project, but explain to me why you have to have a skid and mini to do this project. Your worried about your budget, but the biggest tree your clearing is a 8". I personally still consider that a sappling (alot of guys on here can grind that). If your renting why not just rent a bigger T250 - T320. I would think your dealer could rent you a big track skidsteer alot cheaper than a T190, Excavator and attachments. Plus the cost of mobilization 4 times vs. 2 times and your pickup and trailer should beable to handle a T320, but a 442 on your trailer? :confused: A big track skidsteer should have no problem shoving over small trees and your only talking about 1 acre. On the bigger trees take a tooth bucket and dig down a little bit on the stump and then put that bucket up high and shove her over and be done. If your piling all the brush right there close within that 1 acre, I wouldn't even mess with a grapple bucket/rake. And when your done dig your burn hole and grade it out.

If you got your ducks lined and preloaded and ready to go, I wouldn't know why you couldn't get this done in a day, but (I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PROJECT). Your first love (T190) could probably handle it also, but if your renting I'd go bigger.

If you don't think a skid would work maybe look into Kaiser's school of skidsteers for the apprenticeship program. :weightlifter:

About your question, if your absolutely sold on a excavator go with a 24"

[mrsops]

Any digging or is it strictly clearing? If no digging, the 36" will be alright. I ran a 337 with a 24" and that's almost the most bucket I'd recommend for that machine while seriously digging. Go with a 12" for the stumps.

I dont know what your talking about when i had my 341 i would dig pools with a 36'' bucket it was heavy yeah but if your a good operator you know what your limit is.

[Gravel Rat]

If your digging out small stumps etc get a 24 inch bucket the 36 inch on a small mini will struggle. If you had larger stumps I would recommend the narrowest trenching bucket to dig around them and pop them out. The machine won't have enough power to pull them out with brute force.

Without seeing what your dealing with its hard to say what you are going to need.

[Junior M]

Does the machine have a Q/C? If so get a 36" and a 12" for the stumps. If no q/c I'd go for the 24" bucket. Although you can still dig up stumps with a 36", you just end up having a bigger hole to fill in.
Yeah, just one pin to pull, is that q/c? I always understood it was..

And Scag, this is once again a low budget job for us, and like I said before Bobcat is giving awesome deals on rental right now, and we wont get our deal at CAT for a 310, which is what I'd like to do this job with. But for us it'll have to be the 337 or 442..

[Junior M]

JR, I've set back and keep my mouth shut about your clearing project, but explain to me why you have to have a skid and mini to do this project. Your worried about your budget, but the biggest tree your clearing is a 8". I personally still consider that a sappling (alot of guys on here can grind that). If your renting why not just rent a bigger T250 - T320. I would think your dealer could rent you a big track skidsteer alot cheaper than a T190, Excavator and attachments. Plus the cost of mobilization 4 times vs. 2 times and your pickup and trailer should beable to handle a T320, but a 442 on your trailer? :confused: A big track skidsteer should have no problem shoving over small trees and your only talking about 1 acre. On the bigger trees take a tooth bucket and dig down a little bit on the stump and then put that bucket up high and shove her over and be done. If your piling all the brush right there close within that 1 acre, I wouldn't even mess with a grapple bucket/rake. And when your done dig your burn hole and grade it out.

If you got your ducks lined and preloaded and ready to go, I wouldn't know why you couldn't get this done in a day, but (I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PROJECT). Your first love (T190) could probably handle it also, but if your renting I'd go bigger.

If you don't think a skid would work maybe look into Kaiser's school of skidsteers for the apprenticeship program. :weightlifter:

About your question, if your absolutely sold on a excavator go with a 24"
The lady and guy we're doing it for has a F450 and 10ton gooseneck. That is what will haul the 442 or 337. I am sold on the trackhoe because of the big hole we got to dig, its some sand top on top, but once you get down a little its hard packed clay and rock. And the price of a loader is basically all the same, it is for us anyways, as long as we pick it up. But I think the trackhoe will pop those trees alot easier, and there's some bigger tree's I think might have to come out, and it will be a bitc# to dig the stump out with a loader..

[Junior M]

The 335 had no problem pulling the 36in bucket, it would get bouncy because of the all the weight but I by no means want to dig up a stump with a 36in, that will be a bitc# breakin all those roots with a 36in, I am just not sure if I should go with two different buckets, or the one..

[Dirtman2007]

The 335 had no problem pulling the 36in bucket, it would get bouncy because of the all the weight but I by no means want to dig up a stump with a 36in, that will be a bitc# breakin all those roots with a 36in, I am just not sure if I should go with two different buckets, or the one..

Why not just get two buckets, I mean how much more can they charge you to rent another bucket? not to sound big headed but if the customer can't afford the rental on another bucket why even do the job. I know your trying to keep cost down but come on.

I've dug up 24" stumps with our little 30HP tak 135 with a 30" bucket, took some time but I got it out.

[Junior M]

Why not just get two buckets, I mean how much more can they charge you to rent another bucket? not to sound big headed but if the customer can't afford the rental on another bucket why even do the job. I know your trying to keep cost down but come on.

I've dug up 24" stumps with our little 30HP tak 135 with a 30" bucket, took some time but I got it out.
He better not charge me for a second bucket. :nono: I'll do that then, thats what I was trying to figure out.. I am goin to make money on this job, not alot but I am not goin to get rich, I am just trying to spend as little as possible considering there a friend and one of my Dad's brothers. And we've never done it before and it will be a learning expierence, oh yeah, and I am goin try and get some riding lessons out of it to..


I've dug 24in and 28in stumps with the 430 and a 24in bucket, it took a long time and alot of thrashing and bouncing on that horrible 430 but I got them out..

[RockSet N' Grade]

Junior.......here is what ya do......have KSSS bring in his petite and dainty 9020 and do it in the time it takes you to turn your head and cough.......

[Junior M]

Junior.......here is what ya do......have KSSS bring in his petite and dainty 9020 and do it in the time it takes you to turn your head and cough.......
He better be payin me! :laugh: I wish we could, but I run those controls like a ******ed monkey.. :laugh: I would love to do it with a 312 or 310, and a T250 or 190..

[mrsops]

He better be payin me! :laugh: I wish we could, but I run those controls like a ******ed monkey.. :laugh: I would love to do it with a 312 or 310, and a T250 or 190..

Jr i will send you down the cat 305 once you get in this thing you wont want to get out of it. O yeah i will let you use the t190 to if your a good boy :laugh:

[Junior M]

Jr i will send you down the cat 305 once you get in this thing you wont want to get out of it. O yeah i will let you use the t190 to if your a good boy :laugh:
That'll work, does the 305 have a radio in it? if it does, with some good a/c lets roll! :laugh: :laugh:

[mrsops]

That'll work, does the 305 have a radio in it? if it does, with some good a/c lets roll! :laugh: :laugh:

305 sure does have a radio.The air condition is mint in that machine. Why you need a.c in the machine this time of year down there?

[Dirtman2007]

305 sure does have a radio.The air condition is mint in that machine. Why you need a.c in the machine this time of year down there?

We have mild winters:laugh:

[mrsops]

QUOTE=Dirtman2007;2682638]We have mild winters:laugh:[/QUOTE]

wow i have to move down there bring my company with me to :usflag:

[Junior M]

305 sure does have a radio.The air condition is mint in that machine. Why you need a.c in the machine this time of year down there?
Very, very mild! It was over 70 out today, felt like a nice spring day. There wasnt even a breeze...

[Junior M]

wow i have to move down there bring my company with me to :usflag:
Not to SC, you wont do near as well.. Go to NC, then I can come up there and work for you and Chris! :cool2:

[mrsops]

Very, very mild! It was over 70 out today, felt like a nice spring day. There wasnt even a breeze...

70!!!!!!! wowwwww i have a buddy that bought a house down there im going to have to come down there and check the carolinas out

[mrsops]

Not to SC, you wont do near as well.. Go to NC, then I can come up there and work for you and Chris! :cool2:

yeah that's where my friend bought a house north Carolina and my father has a friend down there he likes it alot to

[Junior M]

yeah that's where my friend bought a house north Carolina and my father has a friend down there he likes it alot to
I like NC, especially northern NC.. I havent spent alot of time up there, but I like it more than SC...

[treemover]

my opinion...if you are only dealing with 8" stumps and you have a hole to dig a t-300,20 would be a lot quicker.

[Junior M]

my opinion...if you are only dealing with 8" stumps and you have a hole to dig a t-300,20 would be a lot quicker.
Ehh, I dont know about that, I'll be headin out there in the next couple days, I'll get some pics.. Most are around 8in across I would guess, some up above 12in...

[Construct'O]

Since we are talking "get er done" simple and easy just go get a dozer ,clear ,dig the hole through in the hole filling part for the owners ,saves them wear and tear on there tractor.

Get an earlier start,fresh air thing,until you start the fire:laugh:

Be done by noon!!!!!!:dancing: Go eat a good lunch and load up and call it a day!:walking: O' too fast ,need to make some money???? bid it.:usflag:

[Junior M]

Since we are talking "get er done" simple and easy just go get a dozer ,clear ,dig the hole through in the hole filling part for the owners ,saves them wear and tear on there tractor.

Get an earlier start,fresh air thing,until you start the fire:laugh:

Be done by noon!!!!!!:dancing: Go eat a good lunch and load up and call it a day!:walking: O' too fast ,need to make some money???? bid it.:usflag:
Two problems there Construct..

1. I nor Dad can run a dozer, and this really isnt the kinda job I want to practice on..

2. The rental thing gets in the way again, I am not sure how much rental on a D3 is per day, but it's got to be more than $325...

[AWJ Services]

First off a 335 will not pull a 36 inch bucket.
A 12 inch bucket is bad about getting full of clay and you have to get it out with a shovel.
I would use an 18 inch if they have it.

If not a 24 will do.
But with that weak $ss 335 it will need a 12" bucket to cut through the roots.

Or you can just get a Takeuchi skid steer and do everything with it.

[Dirtman2007]

Two problems there Construct..

1. I nor Dad can run a dozer, and this really isnt the kinda job I want to practice on..

2. The rental thing gets in the way again, I am not sure how much rental on a D3 is per day, but it's got to be more than $325...


D3.... I was thinking more of a D6:weightlifter:

It's not that hard, just let the blade down and go:rolleyes:

I rented a JD 650 before I had my dozer and it was around $600 a day.

[Junior M]

First off a 335 will not pull a 36 inch bucket.
A 12 inch bucket is bad about getting full of clay and you have to get it out with a shovel.
I would use an 18 inch if they have it.

If not a 24 will do.
But with that weak $ss 335 it will need a 12" bucket to cut through the roots.

Or you can just get a Takeuchi skid steer and do everything with it.
:laugh: :laugh: The 335 pulls the 36in just fine, no where near like a 12in, but for diggin stumps no way.. We arent doin this job with the 335 anyways..

[NateV]

He better be payin me! :laugh: I wish we could, but I run those controls like a ******ed monkey.. :laugh: I would love to do it with a 312 or 310, and a T250 or 190..

Whats a 310??

[minimax]

If the biggest trees are 8" there wont be much of a fight to get the stumps out.I would do that whole job with a brush rake and then grade out with a CTL.I like a 18" or 20" bucket for stumping because a 12" bucket wont get under the side of a stump if you have a thumb on the machine and 12" bucket does not mesh with the thumb tines.Does bobcat have a brush rake to rent I know they make one.I have cleared more ground than a acre with a 35 size mini.If you get a real mini-X like this it can out work the bobcat two to one!!!
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[Dirtman2007]

Or you can just get a Takeuchi skid steer and do everything with it.

:clapping::clapping::clapping:

He wouldn't know what to do with himself:laugh: A TL150 has the same horse power as a D5 dozer.

Talk about getting her done!

[Junior M]

D3.... I was thinking more of a D6:weightlifter:

It's not that hard, just let the blade down and go:rolleyes:

I rented a JD 650 before I had my dozer and it was around $600 a day.
Hell, that'll work to! :laugh: I want to learn to run a dozer, but this job isnt really the one I would like to learn on.. $600 wouldnt be that bad, just the operator error thing is goin to get in the way.. I am goin to think about the dozer thing, starting to sound okay..

[Junior M]

Whats a 310??
CAT... moreletters

[Junior M]

If the biggest trees are 8" there wont be much of a fight to get the stumps out.I would do that whole job with a brush rake and then grade out with a CTL.I like a 18" or 20" bucket for stumping because a 12" bucket wont get under the side of a stump if you have a thumb on the machine and 12" bucket does not mesh with the thumb tines.Does bobcat have a brush rake to rent I know they make one.I have cleared more ground than a acre with a 35 size mini.If you get a real mini-X like this it can out work the bobcat two to one!!!
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minimax
I was thinkin the brush rake, Mini. But they dont rent them. We are or plan on it right now to do it just like your talking about Mini..

:laugh: :laugh: We wont even go there with the whole Deere vs. Bobcat thing!

[NateV]

I didnt know they made a 310. I thought it went from a 308 to a 311??

[Junior M]

I didnt know they made a 310. I thought it went from a 308 to a 311??
Does it? I swore I saw a 310 one day, you might be right...

Yep, you're right, I swore I saw 310, I must've misread it, sorry for the mistake...

[mrsops]

If the biggest trees are 8" there wont be much of a fight to get the stumps out.I would do that whole job with a brush rake and then grade out with a CTL.I like a 18" or 20" bucket for stumping because a 12" bucket wont get under the side of a stump if you have a thumb on the machine and 12" bucket does not mesh with the thumb tines.Does bobcat have a brush rake to rent I know they make one.I have cleared more ground than a acre with a 35 size mini.If you get a real mini-X like this it can out work the bobcat two to one!!!
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minimax

My cat will chase that deere into the woods!!! :laugh:

[NateV]

Im pretty sure there is no 310.

[Junior M]

My cat will chase that deere into the woods!!! :laugh:
There isnt, read my earlier post, Nate..

The Bobcat will chase both the Deere and Cat down, beat them to death, and bury them in a hole! :weightlifter: :cool2:

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work018.jpg

[NateV]

You didnt have that second part on your reply when i replied lol...


Heres a beast that will scare both of them haha even if it is only a 130!!

[Junior M]

You didnt have that second part on your reply when i replied lol...


Heres a beast that will scare both of them haha even if it is only a 130!!
Oh..

Thats got me shakin in my boots... :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

There isnt, read my earlier post, Nate..

The Bobcat will chase both the Deere and Cat down, beat them to death, and bury them in a hole! :weightlifter: :cool2:


Junior you couldn't dig a hole big enough with that bobcat, the damn thumb hangs down to far!!!!

[Dirtman2007]

Oh..

Thats got me shakin in my boots... :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

This is all you need

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-59.jpg

Go ahead a join the club... we use real machines to get things done:cool2:

[Construct'O]

By the looks of the Bobcat in that backyard right up next to the fence and the pool just to the left, there wasn't much room for bigger there:confused:

So bigger isn't always better:drinkup::usflag:

[Junior M]

By the looks of the Bobcat in that backyard right up next to the fence and the pool just to the left, there wasn't much room for bigger there:confused:

So bigger isn't always better:drinkup::usflag:
Nope, but it wasnt all that tight, had some spots where it was, but we got it done..

[Junior M]

This is all you need

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-59.jpg

Go ahead a join the club... we use real machines to get things done:cool2:
As soon as they get closer than an 1hr away, I'll rent one, atleast when I am running things..

[Dirtman2007]

As soon as they get closer than an 1hr away, I'll rent one, atleast when I am running things..

You could have come up with a better excuse than that. only a hour... I'd go for a little drive and try one out.

[NateV]

An hour isnt bad. Our Taki dealer was about 15 minutes now there about 30. Komatsu is abotu 15 too. Our Case dealer is about 45, same with Cat, Bobcat, Deere, Kobelco/NH.

[Junior M]

You could have come up with a better excuse than that. only a hour... I'd go for a little drive and try one out.
Try getting Dad to drive that far when his beloved Bobcat is 35min away...

[stuvecorp]

JR, six pages to figure this out? It's simple, PowerTan and you're done.:laugh:

[RockSet N' Grade]

Junior........better watch out, after 2526 posts, the rules say you have to buy everyone a six pack. also under subsection b of section a, after 2526 posts, the number of posts goes backwards........

[Construct'O]

Junior........better watch out, after 2526 posts, the rules say you have to buy everyone a six pack. also under subsection b of section a, after 2526 posts, the number of posts goes backwards........

Ron and GR better get busy !!!!!! Juniors going to fly by you guys like your standing still.

How the time(posts ) flys by when your young,just seems like yesterday when Junior signed up:confused:

Next thing you know he will be all growed up going to work like the rest of us:cry::usflag:

[Gravel Rat]

I have something like 4616 posts and I joined back in 2002 so its 650 posts a year :laugh:

[Gravel Rat]

Junior has been here less than a year holy crap.

[Gravel Rat]

The Ronald has 3700 posts and he has been here for a 1.5 or so.

I think Scags count is higher he joined in 2001.

[Junior M]

Notice GR posted 3 times, to up his post count.. :laugh:

[Junior M]

Junior........better watch out, after 2526 posts, the rules say you have to buy everyone a six pack. also under subsection b of section a, after 2526 posts, the number of posts goes backwards........
I cant buy beer, not of legal age... So well, guess I am not buying anything!

:laugh:

[Junior M]

JR, six pages to figure this out? It's simple, PowerTan and you're done.:laugh:
That'll be the day! :laugh: :laugh:

[dozerman21]

Ron and GR better get busy !!!!!! Juniors going to fly by you guys like your standing still.

How the time(posts ) flys by when your young,just seems like yesterday when Junior signed up:confused:

Next thing you know he will be all growed up going to work like the rest of us:cry::usflag:

It was yesterday when Jr. signed up! 2,500 posts in 7 months? That's a lot of questions.:)

Gravel Rat has everyone blown away, especially if you're counting the number of words per post.:dizzy: Since 90% are the same doom and gloom, his actual post count should be around 600.:laugh:

[Junior M]

It was yesterday when Jr. signed up! 2,500 posts in 7 months? That's a lot of questions.:)

Gravel Rat has everyone blown away, especially if you're counting the number of words per post.:dizzy: Since 90% are the same doom and gloom, his actual post count should be around 600.:laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[mrsops]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

hey junior no school today?

[Junior M]

hey junior no school today?
Yep, I am in class as we speak..

[mrsops]

Yep, I am in class as we speak..

That's funny what do you have one of those blackberry phones that you can go on the internet with? Hey junior do you have any freinds in school that like to talk about machines all day :laugh:? I hope your learing in math class right now :laugh:

[dozerman21]

Yep, I am in class as we speak..

Man, I couldn't even get away with looking at a magazine that I had buried inside of the school book that I was supposed to be reading, let alone a computer. Internet access? What's that?:laugh:

I did have a pretty good technique to get away with sleeping... at least until my elbow would slip out or I would jump and kick the person in front of me.:sleeping:

[Junior M]

That's funny what do you have one of those blackberry phones that you can go on the internet with? Hey junior do you have any freinds in school that like to talk about machines all day :laugh:? I hope your learing in math class right now :laugh:
I am on a school laptop, in class! No I dont.. :wall

[Junior M]

Check out the name! :cool2:

[Construct'O]

Check out the name! :cool2:

Why!!!!!!:confused:

What's the matter had to do a identity change because someone is looking for you(most wanted),or what:rolleyes:

Too bad:cry: your post count goes back to 0,new rules :laugh:
Have a good day:usflag:

[Junior M]

Why!!!!!!:confused:

What's the matter had to do a identity change because someone is looking for you(most wanted),or what:rolleyes:

Too bad:cry: your post count goes back to 0,new rules :laugh:
Have a good day:usflag:
Does it? :rolleyes: Atleast I wont look like such a post w#ore.. :laugh:

Yeah, I had Powercrap and CAT coming after me for talkin to much crap. :laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

When we used to use the computers in class we usually looked at things other than lawnsite:laugh:

That was until someone forgot to hit the mute button oneday... that's a long but really funny story:laugh:

[Junior M]

We get laptops, to take home, they give them to us like the second week of school, and we keep them until the week before our last week of school.

Its hard to do anything really wrong when you sit in the middle of the class and everybody around you can watch what you do, so I cant do anything real wrong, plus they block just about everything..

[Dirtman2007]

We get laptops, to take home, they give them to us like the second week of school, and we keep them until the week before our last week of school.

Its hard to do anything really wrong when you sit in the middle of the class and everybody around you can watch what you do, so I cant do anything real wrong, plus they block just about everything..

What the hell, you get laptops to take home... I wish we got those when I was in high school.

[Junior M]

What the hell, you get laptops to take home... I wish we got those when I was in high school.
Yep, we sure do! :cool2: You get the same one your whole high school career, and you pay $50 a year for insurance and then when you graduate you can buy the laptop for $50..

[Dirtman2007]

Yep, we sure do! :cool2: You get the same one your whole high school career, and you pay $50 a year for insurance and then when you graduate you can buy the laptop for $50..

Cool

I've never had a laptop last 4 years though... I'm a little rough on electronics I guess.

Now quit screwing around and pay attention to the teacher!

Please stop raining... I want to go back to work:drinkup:

[Junior M]

Cool

I've never had a laptop last 4 years though... I'm a little rough on electronics I guess.

Now quit screwing around and pay attention to the teacher!

Please stop raining... I want to go back to work:drinkup:
:laugh: I dont get it if I do or not...

[Gravel Rat]

We never had our own personal computer at school either you did school work the old way with pen and paper. Schools in B.C. can barely afford to pay for computers in a computer room that all the students use. There was no internet access back in 94 when I was in highschool.

[Junior M]

We never had our own personal computer at school either you did school work the old way with pen and paper. Schools in B.C. can barely afford to pay for computers in a computer room that all the students use. There was no internet access back in 94 when I was in highschool.
In most classes we still do work the old fashion way, like math, english, and science. But there are some classes thats the only way we do our work..