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BlackDog3
01-07-2009, 10:25 PM
Do any of you guys run Chevy/GMC 3500 HD's? I know they are a little bit older of a truck since the discontinued them in 2001 or 2002. I have been trying to find one with a 12 foot stake body on it. Seems like a good set up to me with the 14,500 to 15,000 GVW range.

Chris

Jason Rose
01-07-2009, 10:56 PM
I have one, 12' dump bed (stake bed with a hoist). It's a '95 with the 454. Unfortunately I can't really say a lot about it because I just acquired it in November and really haven't been able to put it to work much.

I do know it's one hell of a truck. Probably the heaviest built 1 ton out there. There's a number of people on here that have them, wait for them to chime in. All I found was good reports. Other than the lack of 4 wheel drive, I know I'm going to be happy with mine.

BlackDog3
01-07-2009, 11:01 PM
I just recently found one. Its black which is great, that's one of my company colors and plus it only has 76,000 miles on it. I am sure they are not the most gentle miles but from my experience like yours, that they are one tough rig! I almost bought a cab and chassis this year but stake body beds with hoist are a pretty penny brand new!

Chris

Gravel Rat
01-07-2009, 11:32 PM
They are good trucks you are better off with a 454 version even thou the gas pot is a little piggy. The 6.5 turdo diesel doesn't do well in a 15,000lb gvw truck.

If there was a cheap conversion to put a Duramax into the old 3500HDs the trucks would sell like a hot damn. Tow truck operators still want the 3500HD.

hosejockey2002
01-08-2009, 12:36 AM
I've driven a couple with the 6.5 diesel and they did better than I thought they would. They handled a heavy load well, but not as well as an F550.

Gravel Rat
01-08-2009, 12:55 AM
The 3500HD is only a 15,000lb gvw truck. The tow truck guys like them because the can go into underground parking lots etc.

The F-550s are good trucks especially the 2000-2002 model they had the 135 Dana rear axle a little low geared but didn't matter if it was loaded or empty the truck pulled good.

SLC, LLC
01-08-2009, 12:45 PM
I have one for sale, but it has an 8' bed I believe (would have to doube clech). It is only a flatbed that I put wooden sides on myself.

n2h20
01-09-2009, 02:42 AM
i think they are back in production,, saw an '08 3500D this evening. 4 door longbed... i was jealous.

BlackDog3
01-09-2009, 10:12 AM
I did see that at the local Chevy dealerships but they all had 6.0 gassers instead of the 6.6 Duramax! Also if i would choose any motor as a replacement for the 6.5 in the older trucks it would be the 24 valve cummins!

Chris

jd75760
01-09-2009, 09:19 PM
2009 3500 HD 6.0 gas, 4X4, auto. I am very impressed with this truck. It belongs to a friend that my brother is working for. I got to ride in it today on a 250 mile trip, and it was very comfortable and seemed to have more than enough power. The fold down sides on the dump bed made loading and unloading easy. It rides a lot better than my F-350, and I hate to admit it, but I believe it would pull my 7.5 liter backwards LOL. I Googled Chevrolet dump trucks and found a dealer with 08's left for under $21,000 with a 10' dump bed and 4X4.

Jason Rose
01-09-2009, 09:42 PM
jd75760; What size rims are those? 19.5"? WOuld he notice the tires missing? I need 4 with TREAD. :laugh:

I'm impressed they revived the 3500HD. Of course I can't believe they did away with it either... For 21K, that's an insane deal for an '08. The newer ones have 4x4 as an option?? That's awesome.

The guy I bougt my '95 3500HD from was all sad that he couldn't get them anymore. I guess he should have checked a little harder or waited a little longer!

jd75760
01-09-2009, 09:52 PM
Jason Rose, google 2008 chevrolet dump truck, and go to commercialtrucktrader.

Jason Rose
01-09-2009, 09:56 PM
Jason Rose, google 2008 chevrolet dump truck, and go to commercialtrucktrader.

Those aren't 4x4, but it's still a steal. The dump bed would cost a good $5,000 to put on, bed, hoist, and labor.

Mines a 12' bed.

hosejockey2002
01-09-2009, 10:37 PM
jd75760; What size rims are those? 19.5"? WOuld he notice the tires missing? I need 4 with TREAD.

I'm impressed they revived the 3500HD. Of course I can't believe they did away with it either... For 21K, that's an insane deal for an '08. The newer ones have 4x4 as an option?? That's awesome.

The guy I bougt my '95 3500HD from was all sad that he couldn't get them anymore. I guess he should have checked a little harder or waited a little longer!

Sorry to disappoint you, but the "new" 3500HD is not the truck that the old one was. The "HD" designation is just marketing BS, the truck still has the same 11,400 GVWR as the pre-'08 3500. The old 3500HD had 15,000 GVWR, 19.5" wheels and a solid front axle.
I have heard that Chevy is discontinuing the Kodiak, and hopefully will build a 15-17.5K truck with the Silverado body.

Jason Rose
01-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but the "new" 3500HD is not the truck that the old one was. The "HD" designation is just marketing BS, the truck still has the same 11,400 GVWR as the pre-'08 3500. The old 3500HD had 15,000 GVWR, 19.5" wheels and a solid front axle.
I have heard that Chevy is discontinuing the Kodiak, and hopefully will build a 15-17.5K truck with the Silverado body.

Ahhh I see. Oh well, I have a "real" 3500HD. Mines 15,000 GVRW.

TXNSLighting
01-09-2009, 11:16 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but the "new" 3500HD is not the truck that the old one was. The "HD" designation is just marketing BS, the truck still has the same 11,400 GVWR as the pre-'08 3500. The old 3500HD had 15,000 GVWR, 19.5" wheels and a solid front axle.
I have heard that Chevy is discontinuing the Kodiak, and hopefully will build a 15-17.5K truck with the Silverado body.

That would be fantastic! Im tired of the van cab!

Gravel Rat
01-10-2009, 01:47 PM
I think GM should get out of the medium duty truck business and stick with building trucks to the 5500 size with a P/U truck cab.

BlackDog3
01-10-2009, 03:39 PM
I totally agree with that. Dodge and Ford build trucks up to 550 with a regular pickup body. My friend has a 4500 Kodiak but can only fit 2.5 tons in it. To me that is totally useless.

Chris

Gravel Rat
01-10-2009, 03:45 PM
When GM builds a truck that has a high curb weight how do they expect there to be any payload. You have a heavy cab and a tilt hood it all adds too much weight.

Paradise Landscapes
01-10-2009, 03:49 PM
I totally agree with that. Dodge and Ford build trucks up to 550 with a regular pickup body. My friend has a 4500 Kodiak but can only fit 2.5 tons in it. To me that is totally useless.

Chris

I thaught 4500 Kodiak was a 2.5 ton truck. A landscaper I once worked for runs 4500 Kodiaks. Am I missing something here?

Gravel Rat
01-10-2009, 04:06 PM
The 4500 is supposed to be a 1.5 ton the 5500 is 2 ton the 6500 3 ton the 7500 is a light 5 ton and the 8500 is the heaviest single axle 5 ton.

BlackDog3
01-10-2009, 04:55 PM
It my be but 2.5 tons isn't really alot of weight when your building patios. I am just saying, the truck are massive which takes away from the amount of weight they should be able to hold.

Chris

mattfromNY
01-10-2009, 05:01 PM
I just picked up a 1990 3500 4x4 dump, What would the GVW be on that truck??
I picked it up cheap, its been painted so the plate on the door is missing. Can I get the GVW from the VIN?
I haven't registered it or anything yet, it just sits next to the garage.
Thanks in advance,
Matt.

Jason Rose
01-10-2009, 07:48 PM
I just picked up a 1990 3500 4x4 dump, What would the GVW be on that truck??
I picked it up cheap, its been painted so the plate on the door is missing. Can I get the GVW from the VIN?
I haven't registered it or anything yet, it just sits next to the garage.
Thanks in advance,
Matt.

Yes, I believe the GVW is in the VIN. Someone better with cars/trucks could tell you excatly what letter.

Try this: http://www.decodethis.com/what-is-a-vin-number.aspx

Disclaimer: I have no clue if it works or if it's a scam... I don't have a VIN in front of me to try.

BlackDog3
01-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Since the topic is still goin....Has anyone had problems with their 6.5 liter motors? They have been known to have cracked heads, turbo problems and injector pump problems?

Chris

SLC, LLC
01-11-2009, 08:22 PM
Right when I bought mine I had terrible problems with the fuel. I ended up replacing everyting, and it turned out it was the injector pump. I thought we were having the same problem again a couple of weeks ago, but it appears that the fuel filter has solved the problem.

Gravel Rat
01-12-2009, 03:21 AM
The max you want to license a regular 1 ton is for 12,000lbs. Most of the older Chebbys were rated at 11,000lb gvw.

As for the 6.5s they are not the greatest engine always had problems with injection pumps. I knew of one 3500HD it went through quite a few 6.5s .

The best option with a 3500HD is get one with a 454 and convert it to propane. If propane is available in your area its a good option. You could even build a good propane 454 and drop it in. Chevy never changed the engine mounting or tranmissions. Take a old carbureted 454 give it a rebuild give it some higher compression and run HEI ignition.

The other option is 5.9 Cummins power but thats expensive.

02DURAMAX
01-12-2009, 06:17 AM
Sorry to disappoint you, but the "new" 3500HD is not the truck that the old one was. The "HD" designation is just marketing BS, the truck still has the same 11,400 GVWR as the pre-'08 3500. The old 3500HD had 15,000 GVWR, 19.5" wheels and a solid front axle.
I have heard that Chevy is discontinuing the Kodiak, and hopefully will build a 15-17.5K truck with the Silverado body.

They will not be discontinuing the Kodiaks or topkicks!

02DURAMAX
01-12-2009, 06:19 AM
I totally agree with that. Dodge and Ford build trucks up to 550 with a regular pickup body. My friend has a 4500 Kodiak but can only fit 2.5 tons in it. To me that is totally useless.

Chris

2.5 Tons!?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

what does he have? a 3' bed?:laugh:

BlackDog3
01-12-2009, 10:09 AM
My buddy has 12 foot bed but if he puts the 2.5 tons in it, its over weight! That would be a weird looking truck with a 3 foot bed!!! haha

Chris

oakhillslandscaping
01-12-2009, 02:30 PM
i have driven the 08 gmc 3500 gas drw truck and its a joke to be frank, a gas 1 ton drw with a dump is a waste of metal, the power of diesel is what you need in a 1 ton truck the trucks above such as the 4500 and 5500 are oversized but will carry a LOT more then 2.5 ive seen 8 tons in a F-550 and thats a smaller truck, if your a hardscaper or a mason and your towing a skid steer or a mini-ex and a yard or two of crusher run you should be running a diesel, and the only benifet to having a dodge or ford 550 or 5500 is they are smaller and would probably fit in someones driveway easier they all tow the same they all have lemons

Gravel Rat
01-12-2009, 03:14 PM
If your hauling a mini excavator or skid steer get a medium duty truck. Most contractors if the machine weighs more than a 3 ton mini then its towed behind a medium duty truck. Most mini excavators that actually do a job properly is a 10-12,000lb mini.

Hardscaping jobs here can take 30 or more yards of material like pit run to level off a area. Any guys in the landscaping business that does skid steer work or excavating has a 5 ton or a tandem axle dump. Not many guys fool around with a truck any smaller.

We don't have the and regulations that you need a CDL to operate a single axle dump truck. It can have a gvw of 35,000lbs and no CDL the only time you need a CDL is if the truck is pulling a trailer.

Start overloading 1 tons to 2 ton trucks your just asking for troubles. I have been there done that I keep legal or close to it. The places I go I can't put a full load on the truck because of the terrian. There are places I know that I can only put 3/4s of a load on the truck because the roads are extremely steep and you run out of braking power.

If your in the mini excavating business some of these places you get used to walking you excavator 1 hour to get to the jobsite. You can't get a truck and trailer into the roads because they are too narrow or too steep. Most of the time you can't turn around or make the corners in the road.

Some of the residential areas to get a dump truck up the driveway you need to pull it up with a excavator. Or you dump the load and move it up to the house with a skid steer. Places were you need 4 wheeldrive to climb a dry concrete driveway. Places if the concrete driveway is wet your not making it.