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grasscutter2008
01-12-2009, 09:21 PM
I have a realtor that i was working for doing foreclosures for several banks and he owes money from June and September, he is saying they have not paid him is this normal for banks and have anyone sued for anything like ths and what was the out come????
FLAhaulboy
01-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Assuming the Realtor hired you and not the other people, He is responsible to pay you whether or not he has been reimbursed. How much other business he gives you depends on whether you want to sue him now.
Az Gardener
01-12-2009, 09:46 PM
"Non Paying Realtor" Are their any other kind?
billslawn89
01-12-2009, 10:19 PM
"Non Paying Realtor" Are their any other kind?
ya really! thats why i don't even think about doing work like that! beat up your equipment, hoping to get paid, flat tires.....and so on! i'll stick to my residentials. even renters are bad around here! got stiffed for one last year. never again. first question i have for a possible new client is, "do you own or rent"...if you own, i'll do what you need to be done, if you rent, well, sorry, i'm booked.
uniquechev
01-13-2009, 05:43 PM
Its funny i just got into that same thing through a property managment company and I'm having a wicked hard time getting money out of them ! They just think that your equipment runs on "FREE" well i know that my things dont , how abuot you guys ? These people just think that yaaa when i get around to paying you is good enough for me so ... well i told my lady that i deal with that by next snow storm if you dont have half the money for me i'm going to take my front end loader and pile the snow infromt of the properties doors sky high and if it melts so you can get in i'll bring more ! hahaha if you toss out possiblities of things that you can do to there properties , maybe things will turn in there tinny little minds that your not messing around !
mx315
01-15-2009, 09:36 AM
Check your State's Lien Laws... I just put a property lien on a $62 million dollar condo that hasn't paid. In FL you can file a lien even if you’re a sub-contractor. I heard they were filing for bankruptcy and had to file the lien fast. It's easy to do and only cost $10. The property can't be sold until all the liens are cleared. Send the realtor a Claim of Lien by registered mail and that will get his attention.
Scagguy
01-15-2009, 09:42 AM
Realtor: definition: always has to pay for goods and service up front because of previous scams. If not, you will most likely never see your money.
HOOLIE
01-15-2009, 11:07 AM
I only work for a few realtors that I know personally, that helps greatly in getting paid within the same decade.
Really all the realtor talk should come at no surprise. I think we all know, a realtor doesn't paid until the house sells. So when do you think you will be paid :laugh:
The foreclosure and short sale market is a kooky thing, it IS possible the realtor still hasn't received their commission yet.
Runner
01-15-2009, 03:25 PM
Next time you do work for a realtor, you have them sign a service agreement that includes BOTH - the terms of payment - time-wise, and the interest rate and or late fees to be charged for payment after this given time.
Scagguy
01-15-2009, 03:54 PM
Next time you do work for a realtor, you have them sign a service agreement that includes BOTH - the terms of payment - time-wise, and the interest rate and or late fees to be charged for payment after this given time.
That's all good and wonderful, but, when it comes to realtors, my policy is it's payment upfront or see ya later.
DLAWNS
01-16-2009, 05:55 PM
I have one that I am fighting right now to get my money. I will never deal with them again. The agent is the sister of a really great customer that always pays on time so I didn't think it would be a big deal.
nosparkplugs
01-16-2009, 06:35 PM
:laugh::laugh: If your doing business with Realtors you get what you deserve, their all crooks who need to prove otherwise, that has served me well over the years.
Runner
01-16-2009, 10:19 PM
And I certainly don't blame you there. There are just too many nightmare stories about realtors.
PROCUT1
01-16-2009, 10:57 PM
Put a lien on the property. It works great. Realtors are VERY familiar with liens and are terrified of them.
For a couple hundred bucks they owe the lawn guy, they will be prevented from selling the house.
Even a threat of a lien should be enough to get you paid on the spot.
Woody82986
01-16-2009, 11:06 PM
Plain and simple, if they want you to do the work, then have them sign a service agreement that spells out the exact payment terms and what happens when payments aren't received on time, regardless of circumstance.
HOOLIE
01-16-2009, 11:45 PM
The other thing to keep in mind right now is, most realtors are essentially people with jobs who are making no money. When real estate was booming, a ton of people got their licenses and thought they could sell houses. Most of them are hurting. You're all probably dealing with these type of realtors. If you want to work with them, choose someone who has been around pre-2000 at least.
Just to refresh everyone...when does a realtor get paid? When they sell the house. So when do you think...you will get paid? You think having a signed contract will get you paid?
nosparkplugs
01-17-2009, 01:11 AM
The other thing to keep in mind right now is, most realtors are essentially people with jobs who are making no money. When real estate was booming, a ton of people got their licenses and thought they could sell houses. Most of them are hurting. You're all probably dealing with these type of realtors. If you want to work with them, choose someone who has been around pre-2000 at least.
Just to refresh everyone...when does a realtor get paid? When they sell the house. So when do you think...you will get paid? You think having a signed contract will get you paid?
Even pre-2000 Realtors are hurting my neighbors sister & husband were both top seller's with Crye-Leike for years, and now there humbled to showing ANYTHING that might sell even foreclosures that look like shat.
DuallyVette
01-19-2009, 01:06 AM
I take MasterCard & Visa. Give me a # up front.
topsites
01-20-2009, 03:17 AM
Yeah, I've had about as much luck in this area, too.
LB1234
01-22-2009, 10:54 AM
Next time you do work for a realtor, you have them sign a service agreement that includes BOTH - the terms of payment - time-wise, and the interest rate and or late fees to be charged for payment after this given time.
Why not just erase "for a realtor" out of your statement?
LB1234
01-22-2009, 10:59 AM
Just to refresh everyone...when does a realtor get paid? When they sell the house. So when do you think...you will get paid? You think having a signed contract will get you paid?
It may not get you paid on time...but it gives you a legal leg to stand on instead of "we agreed to this verbally".
I do work for a realtor from time to time...I really can't complain. Has anyone thought in additon to a signed contract you get a certain % of the money up front....that way in the event you are stiffed you can atleast have your expenses covered. Doesn't seem like rocket science to me.:dizzy:
Team Green Property Maint
01-23-2009, 10:07 AM
file a small claim on him..they are free to file...hopefully he doesnt get a lawyer. Check your contract first. Does it say you will be paid after he gets paid...you should have a clasue to gaurantee your money.
check out wethepeople.com
Runner
01-25-2009, 01:25 AM
Next time you do work for a realtor, you have them sign a service agreement that includes BOTH - the terms of payment - time-wise, and the interest rate and or late fees to be charged for payment after this given time.
Why not just erase "for a realtor" out of your statement?
GREAT point!
GrassesGuy
03-31-2009, 01:38 AM
I have some foreclosed properties I do work for and some are bad and others are good. One bank owned property I had last year failed to pay for a grossly overgrown yard I charged $150 to clean up. I got the job from a Realtor who sends a lot of work my way so instead of bitching at him I went after the bank. I called this guy for like 2 months and he kept bullshiting me around, so I found out who his boss was and called her. I explained to her that I hadn't been paid and that old ladies on social security paid me every time and that a bank has no excuse not to pay. In the end she had me send a email explaining everything I told her about this guy that was toying me around. I got my money overnighted, the guy got fired and I still do work on this foreclosed house. I then explained to the new person in charge of the property how I had this agreement with the guy who was fired to do mowing, trimming, snow removal, Spring clean-up, Fall clean-up even though we originally agreed to just mowing. How can she verify what we agreed upon when the guys been fired. Needless to say I brought in over 2,000 of this crooked bank which I got from a Realtor. So the moral of the story don't destroy good leads because Realtors can generate future business. But definitely get your money whether it be extortion, intimidation,collections,liens, or contacting superiors.
Just a thought,
GrassesGuy
rflawnman
03-31-2009, 09:46 PM
I don't know who is worst, a scum bag Realtor or a scum bag lawyer, they'll both rip you off. I told a Realtor that I was working for to take the money and shove it, his $200 wasn't going to break my bank account and he obviously needed it more than I.
kaferhaus
04-03-2009, 10:50 AM
File a labor lien. It's easy and you'll eventually get paid.
I do work for many realtors and they either sign a contract or no deal. Contract states the payment terms, late fees and interest rate. 10% late fee and 1.5% per month interest. IF it goes into collection then any and all costs of collections are added.
And even though residential contracts are nearly unheard of here, you can still file a lien on those properties by signing a sworn statement.
Residentials are rarely a problem here as we collect payment at the time of service.
Commercials CAN be a problem as they usually don't own the building and you're not acting as contractor or sub-contractor for the property owner. Therefore you have nothing to attach.
With local companies the contract states that the business owner is individually responsible for payment. So if they close down you can go after him in court separate from the business. If they refuse to sign such a contract that should be your first warning sign to stay away from them. If he won't stand behind his own company, things are not good.
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