Here's the Scoop on new line of work!!!!!

[Construct'O]

Been over on HEF ,Ron's favorite site:).They do have some good info,but just doesn't flow as fast as lawnsite does:)

This is for you young and upcoming guys,for me it's to late:laugh:

I know this lawnsite,but who knows just might be where you turn over a new leaf:rolleyes: as to job change career?

Okay to the point what about branching out into the the environmental work? I think with all the new regs and up coming elect,that there will be a surg of this type work.

Clean air issues,contamnated dirt,silt problems like the Tenn. problem for one thing.I think you need to get on the first response team list which would be a hitch.

There was a guy also removing contanmated dirt in Colorida.That had some awesome pictures,they was reclaiming an old mine with acid material.

Also there was a guy that has a add a stick set up on his excavator for extra reach,as doing drilling like test holes around old fuel tank systems.

Just a few project that looked interesting to mention.I work think that like for you Cat Power that if you could get set up to dispose of the contanmated dirt through running it through your screed,probably would have to add some kind of burner to run the dirt through to reduce the contanmation of the dirt.

I know this is high dollar,but might be high dollar income.

What would be some small size jobs that you can think of to get started in the bus,here it has been mainly the fuel tank recovery jobs? Anyone us have a few thought:confused: deal or no deal:laugh::usflag:

[stuvecorp]

Up here the underground tank thing is pretty much cleaned up, probably mid 90's that was a big thing. If you can stand all the paperwork and jumping thru hoops it would be something to check out.

[Junior M]

Its already being done around here, what do you think I did working fulltime this summer?, enviromental clean up, cleaning up after gas spills, pumping out maintenance wells with a vac tank, digging and tieing together recovery and maintenance wells, Dont forget this guy was also a landscaper... But I really enjoyed it, it was really easy work to, and purty fun to, we did alot of sitting around waiting for this or that or sitting in the truck while the vac was running...

[bobcat_ron]

It's super costly to get the right certifications and qualifications and equipment, but once you got them, you can pretty much set your rates and prices, you would be surprised how fast and how much Gas station companies will fork over dough for a spill that came from their tanks 30 years ago.
But like all the farmers here say, "the only solution to our pollution is dilution."

[Dirt Digger2]

before you can think of doing that you need all of your personal and company certifications and proper pollution insurance....this is all costly and time consuming

the company i work for just went through and did all of this last year...what a pain

[Gravel Rat]

Like the others said it is very very costly. You need certifications and heavy insurance etc. Around here if you have a underground furnace tank that has leaked you don't say one word if you do your in for a long painfull process.

Same thing as finding any indian artifacts on your property if you say something you might aswell hand the property over to the indian band you get no money they just take it.

[Construct'O]

Like the others said it is very very costly. You need certifications and heavy insurance etc. Around here if you have a underground furnace tank that has leaked you don't say one word if you do your in for a long painfull process.

Same thing as finding any indian artifacts on your property if you say something you might aswell hand the property over to the indian band you get no money they just take it.

GR you live in a tuff country,US might be down the tubes for a while,but i won't be moving to your harsh territory:laugh: anytime soon:usflag:

[CAT powered]

The environmental market in my area is cornered BIG TIME.

I've found myself an untapped market in wood waste recycling. I'm getting paid to haul the material off in walking floor trailers and dumpsters. Then I'm grinding it. Or will be grinding it I should say. And after that I can load it back into the walking floors and deliver it to a wood burning client of mine.

The closest wood waste disposal facility is 1.5-2 hours away from me and charges 600$ a load to drop a walking floor full. A walking floor holds 100 yards as long as you don't hit your weight restrictions first.

I got myself two WHO tub grinders for a song. I figure I'll cannibalize them to get one that works. Then once I get some $ together from that I'll upgrade to a Vermeer.

[Gravel Rat]

If you own a business say a excavation business and you have a shop on commercial property you have to be very very carefull about oil or diesel spills.

If a ministry of enviroment inspector visits your property and sees oil spots on the ground you can be in for some trouble. Some places you had to dig out yards of material and replace it with new. The big problem is the contaminated soil has to go to a place that accepts it. That is big money.

If they suspect something you will have to have your property enviromentally drilled for core samples. So if your property comes out to have contaminated soil you have some choices and its not going to be cheap.

With residential enviromental clean up is usually a leaking furnace oil tank beit a inground (rare) or above ground (very common) you don't say a word. I have done a few furnance oil tank removals. Old tanks always leak you drain the old furnace oil out haul it away. Clean up the contaminated soil a tiger torch works good for burning off the oil.

If you get a the enviroment guys involved your $$$$$. The worst is if your caught with used drywall on your property that is wet or you tried burying it.
It is very illegal here to bury used or new gypsum board. If the drywall is wet you can't get rid of it at the landfill that takes the material to a recycler.

Not part of a enviromental problem but finding indian artifacts on your property during a excavation you keep your mouth shut. Excavation contractors have to tell the home owners to keep the pie hole shut. Some homeowners learned the hard way.

The only large enviromental clean up is removing retired gas stations or if there is a industrial spill. Both is a rare occasion. Usually what happens is a enviroment company hires a private contractor in the area to do the excavating. The enviroment clean up company does all the paper work and handles the job.

[Dirtman2007]

As many know I work with a ton of ponds a year. We do all the dredging work a big pond management company that covers most of NC and manages/ maintains over 3000+ ponds. Recently I've been doing some storm water runoff ponds that have to be inspected anually, if they fail, the owner has a defined time frame that the problems must be fixed in. Thats when we are called in to to the dredging/ fix problems with drain pipe, ect. I've been called out to dredge 3" out of entire pond before. The water was suppose to be 18" deep before it started to run out the pipe, well the pond silted in some and lost 3" of volume. The best part is mother nature will continue to send silt and sediment into these catch basins, the more shopping centers and housing developments being built, the more ponds that need to be maintained, which result into more work I have to do. Its a job that needs to be done.

So everytime you get out of your car at a shopping center, dump all the dirt from your floormats out into the storm drain... your keeping me in a job!

[CAT powered]

GR maybe in the socialist republic of canada they can go onto your property without your permission to look for oil spills, but if I had someone coming into my yard looking around without permission they'd meet with the business end of a 12 gauge pretty quickly. Especially these days when theft is on the rise. They could leave and come back with legal authority to search the property but until then they can leave or have the police called for trespassing.

Maybe that wouldn't be the right thing to do, but that'd be my thing to do.

[Gravel Rat]

You don't mess with a B.C. enviroment guy you will be looking down the barrel of a revolver. These guys pack heat and they can come and inspect your property any time. Some of these guys show up at off hours. You pizz the guy off you just burned the bridge. If your property is bad enough you might aswell start mortaging your house to pay for the bills.

If you sell your commercially operated property you have to have a enviromental accessment done. It may have to be core drilled if there is a suspicion of oil spills.

The enviroment inspectors can check also conservation officers can inspect your property. No diffrent as WCB (workers compensation board) they can show up to your jobsite unannounced and start handing out violation fines.

The biggest thing for contractors is burning brush piles. The enviroment guy shows up to your site looking for tires or any other kind of plastic. If they come back and see if there is any steel cords left in your fire pile boy are you in deep ***t. The other thing they look for is bucket handles (metal).

You don't know when a inspector will show up they could be driving around and see a fire pile that is burning a little black they will stop and check.

No warrants or police needed the enviroment guys can do what they want.

[Junior M]

You don't mess with a B.C. enviroment guy you will be looking down the barrel of a revolver. These guys pack heat and they can come and inspect your property any time. Some of these guys show up at off hours. You pizz the guy off you just burned the bridge. If your property is bad enough you might aswell start mortaging your house to pay for the bills.

If you sell your commercially operated property you have to have a enviromental accessment done. It may have to be core drilled if there is a suspicion of oil spills.

The enviroment inspectors can check also conservation officers can inspect your property. No diffrent as WCB (workers compensation board) they can show up to your jobsite unannounced and start handing out violation fines.

The biggest thing for contractors is burning brush piles. The enviroment guy shows up to your site looking for tires or any other kind of plastic. If they come back and see if there is any steel cords left in your fire pile boy are you in deep ***t. The other thing they look for is bucket handles (metal).

You don't know when a inspector will show up they could be driving around and see a fire pile that is burning a little black they will stop and check.

No warrants or police needed the enviroment guys can do what they want.
I wouldnt let a guy that I dont know on my property, he better have a warrant or like CAT said he'll be looking right back at a gun and in Kershaw county (The county I live in obviously) you have the right to shoot somebody or something if you feel threatened...

[Dirtman2007]

I wouldnt let a guy that I dont know on my property, he better have a warrant or like CAT said he'll be looking right back at a gun and in Kershaw county (The county I live in obviously) you have the right to shoot somebody or something if you feel threatened...

I doubt you'll be shooting anyone for just showing up in your yard but I know what you mean.

I've never had to deal with any environmental guys, I've got a good trick to cover up the black smoke from the fire and turn it blue.

GR I know what you mean about the steel belts in fire piles, I would have never thought there could be some many belts in a tire.

Out in the country around here, a lot of people do still use tires to get fires going. I've been trying alternative methods and have done pretty good. you still can't beat a good old tire fire though:laugh:

You've never seen a smoke cloud until you see 12 dump truck tires on fire. That fool was crazy:dizzy:

[Junior M]

I doubt you'll be shooting anyone for just showing up in your yard but I know what you mean.

I've never had to deal with any environmental guys, I've got a good trick to cover up the black smoke from the fire and turn it blue.

GR I know what you mean about the steel belts in fire piles, I would have never thought there could be some many belts in a tire.

Out in the country around here, a lot of people do still use tires to get fires going. I've been trying alternative methods and have done pretty good. you still can't beat a good old tire fire though:laugh:

You've never seen a smoke cloud until you see 12 dump truck tires on fire. That fool was crazy:dizzy:
No, I wouldnt shoot anybody, I am not that heartless, but its definetly not illegal and I know some rednecks around here that would take advantage of that law if somebody came walking into there yard lookin for leaks and crap like that..

[Dirtman2007]

No, I wouldnt shoot anybody, I am not that heartless, but its definetly not illegal and I know some rednecks around here that would take advantage of that law if somebody came walking into there yard lookin for leaks and crap like that..

Its just common sense in the south, you just don't go snooping around someone's property if you have know business being there.

I'm in the city, you go out into the sticks where the population is only a few 100 per town and screw around somebodies house, you'll get a cap in yer ass:laugh:

[Junior M]

Its just common sense in the south, you just don't go snooping around someone's property if you have know business being there.

I'm in the city, you go out into the sticks where the population is only a few 100 per town and screw around somebodies house, you'll get a cap in yer ass:laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: Thats the way it is here. Me and the bossman were goin down the road to the interstate and there was an old guy running out of his front door in his boxers with work boots on holding a gun going after some dog.. :laugh: I about pissed my pants laughing so hard... :laugh:

[Gravel Rat]

These inspectors are B.C. gov't employees you shoot at them your seeing some time in jail or prision and you loose everything you own. The conservation officer usually has a 12 guage or 30-6 riffle in the truck with a good supply of ammunition. When you have to shoot bears you need a good gun and be a good shot.

The best fire starter is some dry cedar shakes/shingles, diesel fuel and a gas powered leaf blower. Why chance it starting a fire with tires you could loose your business license and a whole pile of money.