J&J - Thread

[nnj18]

Well I figured I had might as well make one big thread instead of a bunch of little ones. I will post any decent work and equipment pictures I take.

Anyway here is the first big purchase of 2009....more to come as we get closer to spring......and yes I KNOW its dirty. lol

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared001b.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared002.jpg

[Scag413]

Sweet truck!!! Now its time for a plow HAHA

[South Florida Lawns]

what where's the tire shine and the paper floor mat? lol JK. nice truck and color. One question where's the crew gonna sit, you gonna do it like us Florida boys and make the Mexi's sit in the bed?

[mrusk]

You bought a new truck and its dirty???? Who sells a dirty truck?

[Scag413]

You bought a new truck and its dirty???? Who sells a dirty truck?

I think he bought it from an individual but he prlly got it dirty driving it home

[South Florida Lawns]

there's more salt on that truck then my french fries I just got at McDonalds!

[DLAWNS]

I like the new truck a lot more than the old one. Chevy is what I'm talking about. You said in your other thread that you were gonna start to do work in Denville. That's funny I have an ex-girlfriend from there. I haven't heard anyone mention Denville in about 8 years. Either way, keep up the great work and I love the three 8001's...let us know when you get the fourth.

[nnj18]

Sweet truck!!! Now its time for a plow HAHA

yah it will have a plow next winter for sure....and a lot of other stuff as well.

what where's the tire shine and the paper floor mat? lol JK. nice truck and color. One question where's the crew gonna sit, you gonna do it like us Florida boys and make the Mexi's sit in the bed?

lol, I might be buying a used dump truck too this year...if so thats where they'll go. If not its and extra cab and I'll throw some sheets down....I'm trying to avoid that though as I dont want it smelling like a bunch of mexicans. lol You'd get in HUGE trouble for that here, I cop almost gave me a ticket for having my dog in the bed of the dodge!! :hammerhead:

You bought a new truck and its dirty???? Who sells a dirty truck?

from a terrible wannabe used cars sales man that lives up in Sussex NJ...haha

btw- I'll make up for lunch when I come get the trailer and lazer in spring.

I think he bought it from an individual but he prlly got it dirty driving it home

he happens to be the individual....lol

there's more salt on that truck then my french fries I just got at McDonalds!

ahahaha...for this big shortage I hear about they're spreading it like H20 here!

I like the new truck a lot more than the old one. Chevy is what I'm talking about. You said in your other thread that you were gonna start to do work in Denville. That's funny I have an ex-girlfriend from there. I haven't heard anyone mention Denville in about 8 years. Either way, keep up the great work and I love the three 8001's...let us know when you get the fourth.

yah, I'm trying to get more into Denville, Mountain Lakes, Boonton area....I live in Rockaway....

for sure....but that won't be until end of summer..

[mattfromNY]

Nice color. Mines the same color, but a reg. cab.
Maybe I missed it, but what year? what motor?
Good score, you wont regret it!

[mrusk]

from a terrible wannabe used cars sales man that lives up in Sussex NJ...haha

I hope the inside of the truck is cleaner then the outside.

I hope you bought it from a repuable person. I saw a similar truck listed in the paper as stolen yesterday.

[nnj18]

its a 2003 with the 6.0L and 55k on it

[nnj18]

I hope the inside of the truck is cleaner then the outside.

I hope you bought it from a repuable person. I saw a similar truck listed in the paper as stolen yesterday.

the interior is OK, but its got a cracked mirror and it wasn't detailed like I told the guy to over a week ago! :hammerhead: and yah know what his BS excuse was, "my brother got me sick"......yah right.

well when I registered it today it went through fine....soooo

[mattfromNY]

Must be the painted fender flares were on the '03, and they went to black in '04?
I bought a box for mine, came off a '03 and the flares were painted. Mine are black.

[Junior M]

Did you sell the Dodge? Sorry, dont keep up much around here..

[J&R Landscaping]

Nice truck!

[nnj18]

I didn't sell the dodge, it was under dads name (can't get a $38k loan when you're 18 much less 17) anyway deal was he gets a new truck n I take over (had been making payments since fall) but he never got a new truck and thought we could share....that wasn't gonna happen. So I got this one....and thanx for all the comments

[TXNSLighting]

Must be the painted fender flares were on the '03, and they went to black in '04?
I bought a box for mine, came off a '03 and the flares were painted. Mine are black.

my 07 has the painted flares..Nice truck by the way.

[windsory]

why did you switch from diesel to gas? how much did you pay for it?

[Chestnut Oaks Prez]

Nice color. Mines the same color, but a reg. cab.
Maybe I missed it, but what year? what motor?
Good score, you wont regret it!

What color is it Gray, Black, Green? I would have drove it straight to the CARWASH:laugh:
Looks pretty good:nono: That's comin from a FORD man:)

[nnj18]

winsory read above...chestnut its forest green and yes it needs a bath.

[DuallyVette]

Must be the painted fender flares were on the '03, and they went to black in '04?
I bought a box for mine, came off a '03 and the flares were painted. Mine are black.


The fender flares on GM trucks come either black or painted, depending whether the dealer checked the box marked "painted fender flares" when he ordered the truck. ( 2001 to 2007 )

[deere615]

If your getting a new mirror dont go to a chevy dealer, advanced auto parts(if you have these stores) sells them for half the price(if you dont have power mirrors)

[OrangeToys]

I might as well commit on your truck on here though I just saw it on facebook.

Nice truck, but mine is way better, only cause it's silver and cleaner.lol
you gotta let me know how it works out for you.

[TXNSLighting]

Yeh im also ashamed its not a diesel...

[Lawn Freak]

Truck looks good Jared. Best of luck with it!

[nnj18]

I'm buying tow mirrors for it and a ton of other stuff once money starts coming in...I don't mind it not being a diesel, like I said this is going to be more of a personal truck and even if I do have to use it for work it would only pull a maintenance trailer.

[nnj18]

heres another picture I had and forgot about......

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared005.jpg

[slamjamrockinman]

Nice truck. Those running lights look pretty sweet!! Good luck with it, I hope it serves you well!! Are you planning on selling the dodge or keeping it??

[Nick's Lawn Care]

Thats a sweet truck Jazz... i like the color tooThumbs UpThumbs Up

[deere615]

Yeah tow mirrors will look awesome!

[nnj18]

Read up above about the dodge, already answered that "?".....

[South Florida Lawns]

what your getting rid of the dodge? but why lol jk

[Petr51488]

Nice truck! good luck with it. Those 6.0 love gas! I must have missed it, but you still have the dodge?

[DoetschOutdoor]

Just curious, when you do your leaf jobs and have your buddy come pick up the leaves, what are you having to pay him? Wouldnt it make sense for you to get your own? You got alot of nice stuff thats why I ask. It seems like you would already have your own rig and save the money.

[nnj18]

Just curious, when you do your leaf jobs and have your buddy come pick up the leaves, what are you having to pay him? Wouldnt it make sense for you to get your own? You got alot of nice stuff thats why I ask. It seems like you would already have your own rig and save the money.

Yah, my buddy has been doing curbside for me for like 2yrs now. I'm paying anwhere from $50-150 per pile. Yah, it makes sense to have my own, especially this year with the amount of work that is expected to come in.

I would have it now except when you're 18, just starting out and have a bad economy good luck getting a loan. I've presented some family members (who have plenty of $$$$) my business plan and a contract for a $20k loan @ 13% interested and paid off in 3yrs but they wouldn't do it. So everything I buy for about a good 'nother year or two will have to be made with money in the bank.

Hopefully mid-spring I'll have a dump, if not defaintely by the fall though. The amount of $$$$ I think I would spend on pickups again this year would be probably 1/2 the price of a nice used dump. (15k+ truck)

That's the plan and I have a few things up my sleeve that I think can "make" it work.....who knows though, just going to have to wait and see....


And thanx for all the comments!! :waving:

[DoetschOutdoor]

So you pay cash for your dodge and this new chevy you just picked up? You seem to have enough income to show the bank and get a 15-20k loan easily...? Many 18 year olds get loans for trucks in that range and your prolly making more $$. Guess it dont matter if you plan on paying cash for it by summer.

[Lawn Freak]

Are you still planning on an enclosed trailer?

[02DURAMAX]

Looks Great! Only if it was a Dmax!

[nnj18]

So you pay cash for your dodge and this new chevy you just picked up? You seem to have enough income to show the bank and get a 15-20k loan easily...? Many 18 year olds get loans for trucks in that range and your prolly making more $$. Guess it dont matter if you plan on paying cash for it by summer.

Just to re-CLARIFY the dodge was always in dads name due to the loan. I made partial payments up to like August 08 and then made full payments to January 09, I bought this Chevy 'cause he was supposed to go out and get his another trick but he didn't. I needed my own truck that I could use 100% of the time so I bought the chevy.

I've gone to the bank and was denied for a $30k loan for 5yrs and a $5k loan for 1yr.

What I'm doing this year is taking 15% off a yearly contract with a prepayment. So I figure if like just 5 people take advante of that, that's like $9k right off the bat. Then with mulch I think I double that # of $$$ in the bank.

Hopefuly if I don't buy a dump right away by fall I can get like a $10k loan for 2yrs or something to help...I hate having to break the bank, I'd take payments with $$$$ in the bank over very little in the bank and owning outright.

Not being able to get a loan has got to be one of the gratest hindrances to me really growing my business...on the bright side though I'm only 18...lol

Yes Austin I plan on buying an enclosed still.

[nnj18]

If I get the amount of work I think I will and can entice enough people to prepay on a full maintenance contract my equimpent list would look something like this, for whoever is really wondering. lol

'03 Chevy 2500hd
'02 or newer diesel dump
8x18 enclosed & 6x12 open
60" lazerz, 48" stander, 36" wb
leaf loader


What I'm going to do this year is when a person calls on a certain street I'm going to tell them if I get X amount of nieghbors or more the price is Y amount opposed to Z. I will then knock on a few doors tell them all the same thing and leave my business card. I figure even if I bid a little low according to some, the trailer and truck will be parked. So if I'm mowing these for $30 and most guys would do it for $35 it doesn't matter, I will make more $$$$. While he's driving his route (single stop routes) I'm at an entire street for an hour or more.

[Petr51488]

Who do you have a bank account with? I opened an account with bank of america (business account) and would allways recieve these offers in the mail for cash advances/loans. At first they would be 4%, 1.9% and now are 0% interest. I Have a 19k credit line and can use all of it if needed. I've gotten nothing but offers for 0% interest loans for a while now. I've used them, but with any % loan, they do charge you an initil charge of 3%, which is not bad at all. So if i need 19k tomorrow, i can get it and only have to pay 570 in interest and have until the end of october to pay for it. Look at it. At first the interest might be a little high, but once you prove to them that you can pay it back, the interest rate goes lower and lower until its at 0% (plus the initial 3%)

[nnj18]

I have both a business and personal account with TD....havent gotten any offers yet...I dont care if its 10% interest lol....I need the money to grow.

Who are your trucks under, GM credit or?

[Petr51488]

I have both a business and personal account with TD....havent gotten any offers yet...I dont care if its 10% interest lol....I need the money to grow.

Who are your trucks under, GM credit or?

Only truck i finance is the red truck, and thats through gm. I put down a nice size downpayment and technically have 4 years left to pay, but will pay within 2. Everything else i own is paid for in full.

[nnj18]

Only truck i finance is the red truck, and thats through gm. I put down a nice size downpayment and technically have 4 years left to pay, but will pay within 2. Everything else i own is paid for in full.

nice!! hopefully, they'll send me these offers you're talking about....

[South Florida Lawns]

My brother just opened an account up with Bank of Atlantic last year, he's 16 and gets the same offers as you in the mail for loans and credit lines. I think everyone gets those whether you got good credit or no credit at all. NNJ18 best advice is get a credit card use it and make the payments on time. Ask your bank what you can do to help establish your credit. It will take some time though.

[ponyboy]

Td North bank is not great for business loans you might want to check out bank of america they do run better deals for business also wachovia and key also

[deere615]

My brother just opened an account up with Bank of Atlantic last year, he's 16 and gets the same offers as you in the mail for loans and credit lines. I think everyone gets those whether you got good credit or no credit at all. NNJ18 best advice is get a credit card use it and make the payments on time. Ask your bank what you can do to help establish your credit. It will take some time though.

Thats what I do I got a credit card and I egt cash back on it. I also am getting a credit card for pep boys since I spend so much there. But I pay everything off in full each month

[nnj18]

Yah, I've got one credit card for my dealer. I guess I'll try and get a few others as well.

[deere615]

Yah, I've got one credit card for my dealer. I guess I'll try and get a few others as well.

yeah just don't get too many and pay them off every month! They are an esy way to build credit thats why I got one

[Petr51488]

yeah just don't get too many and pay them off every month! They are an esy way to build credit thats why I got one

Not really. When car dealerships/banks look at your credit they don't look at just the number. I forget the actual term they use, but buying crap on your credit card and paying it off in full will give you a good number, but not a high equity (wrong word) number (not really a number either). I tried getting a loan from gm with only 5k down on a 20k loan and they wouldn't do it. YOu have to take larger loans and pay them off before they'll give you large amounts of money. Its like me buying 1k a month of stuff on my credit card and paying it off vs. a much larger loan of 20k for a car. You have to have larger loans out to prove your reliable. Depending which credit agency they use, i have between a 748 and 771 credit score which is excellent, but if i were to apply for a loan on a house with 1/4 or 1/5th down, i prob won't get it without a co-signer. I heard if you can get an am-ex card, then your likely to have/get good credit.

[nnj18]

That makes sense...

[RedMax Man]

Nice new ride buddy. those trucks are pretty comfy and quiet inside. my buddy has one like it thats black.

[deere615]

Not really. When car dealerships/banks look at your credit they don't look at just the number. I forget the actual term they use, but buying crap on your credit card and paying it off in full will give you a good number, but not a high equity (wrong word) number (not really a number either). I tried getting a loan from gm with only 5k down on a 20k loan and they wouldn't do it. YOu have to take larger loans and pay them off before they'll give you large amounts of money. Its like me buying 1k a month of stuff on my credit card and paying it off vs. a much larger loan of 20k for a car. You have to have larger loans out to prove your reliable. Depending which credit agency they use, i have between a 748 and 771 credit score which is excellent, but if i were to apply for a loan on a house with 1/4 or 1/5th down, i prob won't get it without a co-signer. I heard if you can get an am-ex card, then your likely to have/get good credit.

I see what you mean, gotta start somewhere though

[Petr51488]

I see what you mean, gotta start somewhere though

I know, i'm just saying credit cards alone won't build your credit, but it is a start. At first i was only able to get a few 500 credit cards. I would allways max them out and pay them off. Now i have an american express with no limit and 19k on a visa with countless offers in the mail everday.

[mrusk]

Maybe try to find a loan shark????

[South Florida Lawns]

I hear for people our age the best way to establish credit is finance a vehicle. Guess I was lucky when my dad co-signed for me back when I was 18. If I were you I would have financed that truck kept the cash and paid that truck off in a few years.

[Petr51488]

I hear for people our age the best way to establish credit is finance a vehicle. Guess I was lucky when my dad co-signed for me back when I was 18. If I were you I would have financed that truck kept the cash and paid that truck off in a few years.

Yep, true. Usually there is no penalty for paying it off early.

[DoetschOutdoor]

What are you guys making each year and showing the bank? That is one of the biggest thing for your age group. You dont have to publicly come out and say what you are making, just gotta think that if you cant get these vehicle and equipment loans at 18, it may be simply due to your not making enough yet in the banks eyes.

[nnj18]

I hear for people our age the best way to establish credit is finance a vehicle. Guess I was lucky when my dad co-signed for me back when I was 18. If I were you I would have financed that truck kept the cash and paid that truck off in a few years.

I tried to get a $5k loan for one year on it and was turned down....I didn't have a cosigner though.....I still dont see why they'd turn that down when my balance showed over $13k in the bank and I only wanted less then 1/2 of the trucks cost and just a 1 year loan....guess its the economy?????

Haha Matt, I'd never go through a loan shark f'k that!

[nnj18]

Nice new ride buddy. those trucks are pretty comfy and quiet inside. my buddy has one like it thats black.

thanx and you're right, its a really smooth, comfortable ride and quiet...

[mrusk]

i'll cosign for ya

[deere615]

I know, i'm just saying credit cards alone won't build your credit, but it is a start. At first i was only able to get a few 500 credit cards. I would allways max them out and pay them off. Now i have an american express with no limit and 19k on a visa with countless offers in the mail everday.

Yeah my visa only got a $1000 limit. It gets closed to max every month then payed off. I am going to see if I can get a higher limit forwhen spring roles around

[nnj18]

i'll cosign for ya

How much $$$ do I have to pay yah? lol my buddy says he will but he doubts I'll get anything right now....heck I needed a cosigner for a credit card at my dealer where I spent like $6k with in 08 alone.....

[mrusk]

How much $$$ do I have to pay yah? lol my buddy says he will but he doubts I'll get anything right now....heck I needed a cosigner for a credit card at my dealer where I spent like $6k with in 08 alone.....

Just apply for a AMEX biz card.

[nnj18]

Just apply for a AMEX biz card.

i did and was rejected....like I said I needed a cosigner just for a John Deere Credit Card....

[ponyboy]

what happened to the pictures sorry jared just a little to much personal info on here. You got some suggestions take them and use them go buy some more toys take pic and post them or come to my shop click away and post them. Good luck with the truck and your biz this season we all might need it

[mrusk]

your dad wont co sign for you?

You should be able to go to your bank and get a credit card from the bank against the balance of your account.

[nnj18]

what happened to the pictures sorry jared just a little to much personal info on here. You got some suggestions take them and use them go buy some more toys take pic and post them or come to my shop click away and post them. Good luck with the truck and your biz this season we all might need it

Haha some people asked + I was looking for suggestions....and I got a bunc so THANX guys!

I might come up if yah need any help with anything; I'm bored out of my mind..(I think you can tell lol).

Matt just txt me if you really want to know everything lol

[DoetschOutdoor]

By the sound of things, you are getting turned down for everything probably because you are getting your credit checked sooo many times lately. Even more than a few credit checks a year can look bad and being so young you need to keep everything perfect. I was your age just a couple years ago and never had much of a problem getting smaller loans but things have tightened up and you should lay off all those credit apps.

[ponyboy]

That was my other sugg ask the bank for your credit score and if they say no bring the papaer work with you to the next bank all these credits checks unless done by you lower your score and raise red flags it is a little lare now but incase others are intrested
We got a whole bunch of nothing going on except plow,salt wash trucks then fix anything then wait for more money to fall out of the sky

[nnj18]

That was my other sugg ask the bank for your credit score and if they say no bring the papaer work with you to the next bank all these credits checks unless done by you lower your score and raise red flags it is a little lare now but incase others are intrested
We got a whole bunch of nothing going on except plow,salt wash trucks then fix anything then wait for more money to fall out of the sky


well i could come up and show you how to sell all that shyt that you've been trying to sell for the past 2 years. :laugh:

[ponyboy]

only thing left is the trailer all the rest is gone amd i might keep it sp i can bring my full size skid amd the mimi skid i just bought to the same job with all attachments. Also it has only been may bee one year and 10 months at the most

[nnj18]

Bro I was just playing with yah man!! :laugh: I was just reaching for a reason to come up. lol

[ponyboy]

i know i am not big into pics of equipment and my yard i dont like people knowing all that is there, i would say give me a dew months to finish up the yard we built a little pole barn and are gonna pave the whole back this spring so when i am done may bee i ask you to sanp some shots because then we will ahve full camera where i can see from the comp whats going on there when iam not there

[Petr51488]

By the sound of things, you are getting turned down for everything probably because you are getting your credit checked sooo many times lately. Even more than a few credit checks a year can look bad and being so young you need to keep everything perfect. I was your age just a couple years ago and never had much of a problem getting smaller loans but things have tightened up and you should lay off all those credit apps.

x2, this is true too.

[nnj18]

Well my JD dealer just called me up and said JD extended my credit to $10,000.....good enough for me and will be a great help this spring. :waving:

[srl28]

ugh oh thats dangerous lol! jk its a good thing

[nnj18]

Ahaha!! I'd rather take the $10000 in a cash loan at the bank. But hey with the way things are I'll take it. I was really suprised to be good up to $10k...I figured $5k max.

I'm gonna need it though....

[South Florida Lawns]

Thats on a JD card right? What's the interest like on one of those?

[nnj18]

Yah that's just the JD card. If I then wanted to buy a mower on say a 3yr loan then that's a whole other line of JD credit...

Not sure what the % is I'll find out tomorrow for you though...its good for ANYTHING at my dealers store :)

[South Florida Lawns]

Is that only good on JD equipment? They make some good mowers, but I don't know about their cut quality.

[nnj18]

Ryan, its just a credit card...so I wouldn't want to put a mower on that...interest would probably be crazy.

Its good for anything at my dealers store but he only sells JD mowers now. I maybe forced to go JD green lol...I haven't heard too much bad about it...I do know their standers don't come close to a wright though.

[P.Services]

i bought my scag from a Deere dealer using the credit card they set up for me. it was about 9k total i put on the card (bought some ct332 parts also). it was a 36 month pay off, i paid it off in 7 and only paid 250 bucks in interest. it helped me out and the interest isnt that bad. i could tell you what the % was but i dont feel like gettin up. haha

[ponyboy]

i thought they use sheffield finanical for machines and the jd card if for products bot machines??? i could be wrong

[nnj18]

JD has their own line of credit. You can put mowers and stuff on the cc, just have to pay it off fairly quick

[nnj18]

hey guys, if anyone has any questions just ask them here....I want the 08 thread to die.

oh and I found about my JD Credit, 0% for 9 months and then its 6.5% after that....9 months is plenty of time though to pay off my stuff as far as I'm concerned.

[Nick's Lawn Care]

I'll re-ask my question over here...

What mowers are you looking at for the new year??

[S man]

haha. Now our jazak will be buying and selling jds on credit. What's next?

[nnj18]

I'll re-ask my question over here...

What mowers are you looking at for the new year??

Heres the list of purchases for the 2009 year

- Possibly a 60" LazerZ off a friend & 8x18 enclosed trailer
- Lesco 36" hydro and 48" hydro wb or stander
- 1 Ton Dump
- 4x EBZ8001s, 13hp Force Blower, 18hp Leaf Loader

haha. Now our jazak will be buying and selling jds on credit. What's next?

haha and if I did I would probably make some $$$ haha...

[Nick's Lawn Care]

Heres the list of purchases for the 2009 year

- Possibly a 60" LazerZ off a friend & 8x18 enclosed trailer
- Lesco 36" hydro and 48" hydro wb or stander
- 1 Ton Dump
- 4x EBZ8001s, 13hp Force Blower, 18hp Leaf Loader


Sounds like you have a plan all worked out...

Im geting out of lawn care and working for a tree company this year and next year i will open up my own company...

[nnj18]

yep I know what I want and need....not too concerned about the equipment....when the work comes and the business builds the equipments follows.

nice, I'm friends with a very large, local tree company and they have some awesome equipment.....I would like to open up a tree service division; maybe in the future.

[S man]

Two can play at your childish game. Later

[nnj18]

Two can play at your childish game. Later

haha nice signature....I like it but see theres one MAJOR flaw, I'll let you try and find it though....need to get that brain of yours working! :D

[South Florida Lawns]

hows the chevy treating ya?

[nnj18]

its great, and pretty loud for a stock exhaust haha....finally washed it and windows are getting tinted wensday :D It's a freaking pig though...whatever, cant wait until I get some $$$ coming in and I can do a lot of stuff to it.

[Lawn Freak]

Looks like you have a good purchase list for the upcoming season. Good luck with it. I only plan to purchase a few minor things

[nnj18]

Looks like you have a good purchase list for the upcoming season. Good luck with it. I only plan to purchase a few minor things

yes pretty serious list but you have to remember I've sold everything but my open trailer, a few redmax handhelds, a simplicity snow blower and a few other very minor things.....

like I said though I'm not too worried about the equipment list, once you start growing and getting work the equipment follows right behind..

[CrystalCreek]

Jared, I like the new ride. I am a ford man my self, but I respect all the big three as long as their American and making money. If you ever end up stuck in the north area, rest assured, you can call me anytime. I will gladly drag ya out. I'll even buy the beers afterward. Trust me, all trucks get stuck. I have been saved by a few Chevy's in my day, so it is time to return the favor. Best of luck with the new wheels:waving:

[DoetschOutdoor]

NNJ, you going to buy 4 redmax blowers this year? What for, dont you already have 3 or 4?

[nnj18]

If you read back you'll see that I that I sold them all, got some good offers and took them...

Jared thanx for the offer, I'm sure I'll be taking you up on that sometime. haha and I'll offer you the same with the exception of purchasing the beers. hahaha Fords are nice but the price was right and I bought it off a friend so....

[Surf'n'Turf]

its great, and pretty loud for a stock exhaust haha....finally washed it and windows are getting tinted wensday :D It's a freaking pig though...whatever, cant wait until I get some $$$ coming in and I can do a lot of stuff to it.

might as well add a bumper sticker that says 'i'm 18, i hate cops, please pull me over' :laugh:

[South Florida Lawns]

what does tint have to do with hating cops? That makes no sense.

I got tint so dark on my truck no cop could see through it, thing looks like a drug dealers ride, but does that make me hate cops and ask for tickets? NO!

[nnj18]

might as well add a bumper sticker that says 'i'm 18, i hate cops, please pull me over' :laugh:

that makes no sense....I have a college parking stick on my truck...I think that would be more of a magnet then tinted windows.

[Surf'n'Turf]

that makes no sense....I have a college parking stick on my truck...I think that would be more of a magnet then tinted windows.

live and learn....

[Surf'n'Turf]

what does tint have to do with hating cops? That makes no sense.

I got tint so dark on my truck no cop could see through it, thing looks like a drug dealers ride, but does that make me hate cops and ask for tickets? NO!


they're legal in fl, not in nj....my point is, they're a cop magnet, they can and will pull you over and give you a ticket for having them....trust me, i know :hammerhead:

[nnj18]

they're legal in fl, not in nj....my point is, they're a cop magnet, they can and will pull you over and give you a ticket for having them....trust me, i know :hammerhead:

yahh i know its illegal but i dont care....lotsa of my buddies have tints and only 1 has gotten a ticket here....some towns you gotta be careful though

[davis45]

they're legal in fl, not in nj....my point is, they're a cop magnet, they can and will pull you over and give you a ticket for having them....trust me, i know :hammerhead:


I will take the $75 ticket. Can't stand clear windows.

[Surf'n'Turf]

I will take the $75 ticket. Can't stand clear windows.

didn't know there were 75 dollars tickets anymore, seems like anything they get u for is a couple hundred+...least not in nj

[Surf'n'Turf]

yahh i know its illegal but i dont care....lotsa of my buddies have tints and only 1 has gotten a ticket here....some towns you gotta be careful though

just givin' you a heads up is all. i got popped a long time ago at a road stop. they had nothing on my truck or trailer......until, the one cop whipped out the 'tintometer'...he slapped it on the window and said i was in state and federal violation. i couldn't believe it or that he had such a device to measure tint! could've been cooking thermometer for all i know. he then said i could peel them off while i was stopped or take the ticket. i took the ticket, lol

[nnj18]

just givin' you a heads up is all. i got popped a long time ago at a road stop. they had nothing on my truck or trailer......until, the one cop whipped out the 'tintometer'...he slapped it on the window and said i was in state and federal violation. i couldn't believe it or that he had such a device to measure tint! could've been cooking thermometer for all i know. he then said i could peel them off while i was stopped or take the ticket. i took the ticket, lol

haha yeah thats gay....and I know about the law, they dont bother us up here to much. Unless you're a punk azz kid with load music playing and goin 10mph over the speed limit....I'm not going to get it too dark on the fronts anyway.

Oh and around Wensday I should hopefully have pictures of the new line-up!! :weightlifter: :cool2:

[DLAWNS]

Cool, can't wait to see the pics!

[nnj18]

I should have pictures by tomorrow or thursday at latest....picked it all up today! :weightlifter:

[Junior M]

Might have said this already, I havent kept up with this thread real well, Sorry, but what did you get? As in trailer, mowers?

[Lawn Freak]

Might have said this already, I havent kept up with this thread real well, Sorry, but what did you get? As in trailer, mowers?

Ditto, looking forward to some pictures Jared!

[nnj18]

here's the list of what I got right off the bat.....will be getting more stuff as the season progresses

Lesco 48" / 19hp Kawasaki - hydro - catcher & sulky
Lesco 36" / 15hp Kawasaki - hydro - catcher - might buy sulky too
2x Redmax EBZ 8001s
1x Redmax BCZ 2601
1x Redmax LRTZ2401

Might be buying a 60" lazerz & 8x18 enclosed off a buddy in march....

[Junior M]

here's the list of what I got right off the bat.....will be getting more stuff as the season progresses

Lesco 48" / 19hp Kawasaki - hydro - catcher & sulky
Lesco 36" / 15hp Kawasaki - hydro - catcher - might buy sulky too
2x Redmax EBZ 8001s
1x Redmax BCZ 2601
1x Redmax LRTZ2401

Might be buying a 60" lazerz & 8x18 enclosed off a buddy in march....
So as of right now you have no trailer? Or do you still have the one you had in the fall? You getting all new and different equipment is making it hard to keep up with what everyones got.. ;) :laugh:

[nnj18]

So as of right now you have no trailer? Or do you still have the one you had in the fall? You getting all new and different equipment is making it hard to keep up with what everyones got.. ;) :laugh:

I still have the 6x12 open....I'll have pictures of everything by thursday for you guys...

[Lawn Freak]

Is all this new stuff? I wish I could get all that before I even started working lol

[nnj18]

Is all this new stuff? I wish I could get all that before I even started working lol


yeah that list is all brand new, no payments until november, if i pay it off before then no interest on it...no biggie haha, I still have like $2k in credit I can spend...

[Lawn Freak]

yeah that list is all brand new, no payments until november, if i pay it off before then no interest on it...no biggie haha, I still have like $2k in credit I can spend...

Awesome.........wheelin' and dealin':walking::walking::usflag:

[2brothersyardcare]

Thacher and aerator?

[2brothersyardcare]

mabe a pic?

[nnj18]

wacha talkin bout bro??

[nnj18]

OK Guys here are the pictures.....please don't give me any shyt tonight I had a terrible day...I think I just asked for trouble by saying that :hammerhead:

Trucks Head to Head
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared006b.jpg

One more:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared007b.jpg

Last of trucks...
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared008.jpg

Equipment:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared009.jpg

more....
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared012.jpg

and moreeeee: :D
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared015.jpg

19hp BEAST Kawasaki
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared017.jpg

Trimmer on FAR RIGHT is for sale
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared010.jpg

Handheld trimmer on bottom is forsale
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/jared011.jpg

[Junior M]

Oh great! Did you steal this stuff from Rusk to? :laugh:

Yuck, little mirrors, what is with you! :laugh:

So, how's the Chevy? btw, nice equipment, its all shiny and new... :)

[bjlawnman]

Nice stuff.. ok couple questions? Seems like you keep buying new equipment every so often. What's up with that? And two nice trucks for one person? Do you make a profit from continually buying and selling? Not bashing you just wondering....

[mrusk]

You guys already cutting grass down in Rockaway? Damn must be warm down there.

[RedMax Man]

I thought u sold the dodge for the Chevy. didnt know you have both.

Why would anyone go from a Stander to a walk behind?:hammerhead:

How many RedMax back backs do you own? are those 2 new?

Let me break it to you right now, if this economy significantly worse this summer you have a higher risk of failing unless you got some money saved up and not all tied up on loans and equipment.

wow no snow!

[STIHL GUY]

nice truck:weightlifter:

[Scag413]

I thought u sold the dodge for the Chevy. didnt know you have both.

Why would anyone go from a Stander to a walk behind?:hammerhead:

How many RedMax back backs do you own? are those 2 new?

Let me break it to you right now, if this economy significantly worse this summer you have a higher risk of failing unless you got some money saved up and not all tied up on loans and equipment.

wow no snow!

The dodge is his dads. He was sharing payments with him but went a different route. He sold the standers because he made money on the resales. He only owns the two Redmax in the picture now which are both brand new. His new loan is no payments until november which he will have everything payed for by then plus he needs to build credit to get a loan to buy an enclosed and exmark from a buddy. Anything else Jared?

[Scag413]

Btw those lescos look tough! Im impressed. Very nice built machines.

[Nick's Lawn Care]

I love that chevy! And the color!

But lesco's? you could of done better than that Jaz....

Im not saying there a bad mower... It just dosen't seem your type of mower..

[RedMax Man]

The dodge is his dads. He was sharing payments with him but went a different route. He sold the standers because he made money on the resales. He only owns the two Redmax in the picture now which are both brand new. His new loan is no payments until november which he will have everything payed for by then plus he needs to build credit to get a loan to buy an enclosed and exmark from a buddy. Anything else Jared?

Who are you? his secretary

[Junior M]

Who are you? his secretary
:laugh: Dont think so, he's just kept up with this thread...

[nnj18]

I thought u sold the dodge for the Chevy. didnt know you have both.

Why would anyone go from a Stander to a walk behind?:hammerhead:

How many RedMax back backs do you own? are those 2 new?

Let me break it to you right now, if this economy significantly worse this summer you have a higher risk of failing unless you got some money saved up and not all tied up on loans and equipment.

wow no snow!

Micah, you must have missed my thread where I sold just about ALL my equipment from the fall. Why did I go from Stander to WB….hmmm BECAUSE I HAD NO CHOICE?! Jesus Christ I’m not F’N “Sman”…..I’ll talk to you on facebook if you want to know my story.

The dodge is his dads. He was sharing payments with him but went a different route. He sold the standers because he made money on the resales. He only owns the two Redmax in the picture now which are both brand new. His new loan is no payments until november which he will have everything payed for by then plus he needs to build credit to get a loan to buy an enclosed and exmark from a buddy. Anything else Jared?

THANK YOU!!!!!! And for the RECORD I didn’t choose to go another route I was forced. I was between a rock and a hard place, I did the absolute best I could and made the best business decision I could for myself. You guys don't know what I was up against or what happened......you just see what I bought and sold.

Some of you know others don’t and those I haven’t told its none of your damn business!!!

I love that chevy! And the color!

But lesco's? you could of done better than that Jaz....

Im not saying there a bad mower... It just dosen't seem your type of mower..

DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT, I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE?!!! :hammerhead:

GET THE H3LL OUTTA HERE!!!

Who are you? his secretary

Whats YOUR problem Micah?!!????!!



I really cant believe you guys take me for a total fool and complete idiot with no business sense...holy shyt

[Scag413]

Who are you? his secretary

We've talked quite a bit on facebook. I didnt mean to act like I know everything if thats what you are thinking because I certainly do not. Just trying to help him out.

[Scag413]

Yeah Jared I knew your situation I just wasnt going to say that in my post because I thought it wasnt my place to say it. But seriously everything does look good and you made good business decisions in my opinion (considering what you had to deal with)

[2brothersyardcare]

what is the biss problem?

and whats ur facebook name ill send you a friend request

[Nick's Lawn Care]

what is the biss problem?

and whats ur facebook name ill send you a friend request

I dont know he just went off on everyone...?

[windsory]

looks good bro. good luck this year.

ryan

[South Florida Lawns]

Mowers look good bro! And I think you and your guys will get used to the controls. Silverado looks great too!

[nnj18]

what is the biss problem?

and whats ur facebook name ill send you a friend request

'cause I already had a TERRIBLE day and you guys dont know me or my situation......

Jared Kocaj


Ryan, I'm telling yah man when you put it in reverse it blows, slow and makes you wayy off balance....

[DLAWNS]

Jared---Everything looks great. I'm not the hugest Lesco mower fan but those look sweet. As always..gotta love the Redmax. Don't listen to the naysayers, you seem like you have plenty of business sense and you're doing what's right for your situation. If something knocks you down, get up and try again. I've been through plenty of hard situations and have rebounded and have become a better person for it. Best of luck and i look forward to meeting you this Wednesday.

[South Florida Lawns]

Man its sucks that it does that, they look like they will cut some grass tho! I think I have only seen the Lesco Z's down here.

[deere615]

Dang everything is so shiny and new! Lesco's are run by a fair amount of people around me, my uncle has a 60 lesco ztr. How do those controls work? Why does the one handlesit up higher?

[2brothersyardcare]

hope you have a better day

[nnj18]

Dang everything is so shiny and new! Lesco's are run by a fair amount of people around me, my uncle has a 60 lesco ztr. How do those controls work? Why does the one handlesit up higher?

its a safety, if you've got the blades engaged or going forward and it pops out to the right like it is now it will shut off....

my standers and tthp were 100x better then these lescos...hopefully I make tons of $$$ and build me credit so I can get 'em back lol

[deere615]

its a safety, if you've got the blades engaged or going forward and it pops out to the right like it is now it will shut off....

my standers and tthp were 100x better then these lescos...hopefully I make tons of $$$ and build me credit so I can get 'em back lol

Oh I see. They look like nice mowers, big gas tanks to say the least. I really want to get a stander this year

[nnj18]

Jared---Everything looks great. I'm not the hugest Lesco mower fan but those look sweet. As always..gotta love the Redmax. Don't listen to the naysayers, you seem like you have plenty of business sense and you're doing what's right for your situation. If something knocks you down, get up and try again. I've been through plenty of hard situations and have rebounded and have become a better person for it. Best of luck and i look forward to meeting you this Wednesday.

thanx man! and same! my dealer will be there too! haha

[Lawn Freak]

Looks good Jared! Hope you have a good season.

[MileHigh]

I like your stuff...

But where is your edger?

[nnj18]

gone....along with basically everything from fall haha...I might go buy a handheld redmax edger not sure....just use the trimmers, I used the wb edger literaly like 3x times if that haha.

[CrystalCreek]

Dude, bad days come and good days go. Tomorrow the sun will rise and the earth will still turn. Hopefully you will have a better day.

Now as far as the equipment goes, I have no idea your problems, but if you did what you had to do to survive, then my hat is off to you. Most throw in the towel and go home crying to mommy. I have no doubt that you will make the needed money, build some awesome credit, and conquer your dreams. Dont listen to people that are negative. They are like a tornado, they suck, and suck in everyone around them. Keep your head up. If your equipment makes you money, and you are satisfied, THEN F EVERYONE ELSE!

I have always said that there are two people in this world, those who say it cant be done, and the ones that march right by and make them eat their words....I think I know which one you are.

Have a good night, get some good rest, and prepare to conquer tomorrow.

[2brothersyardcare]

well said im going to demow my buddies lesco now looks nice maby ill get one 2

[Junior M]

So, how's the Chevy? btw, nice equipment, its all shiny and new... :)

interesting...

[teamgreendude]

jared i understand your anger i've had days like yours to and nice lescos didn't know they had that type of drive system my lesco dealer still sells the pistol grips but any way very cool stuff hope you get your wright and exmark stuff back

[nnj18]

Chevy is great I'm actually in it right now haha...

Yeah I hope a make a boat load of money so I can sell these and go buy wrights and exmarks next year haha....hopefully these grow on me sooner then later though but my wrights would rape these hahaa!!

Jared thanx man! See yah next week.

[S man]

my standers and tthp were 100x better then these lescos...hopefully I make tons of $$$ and build me credit so I can get 'em back lol

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::hammerhead::hammerhead::dizzy::dizzy:
Good laugh for the day!

[nnj18]

Sman your an idiot, I had NO F*CKING CHOICE!!! WTF do you guys not understand...

[2brothersyardcare]

at least hes still out making a living and not taking welfare good job

[newtostone]

Don't take the bad days personally. Growing a business hurts, money gets tight and relationships get stressed. I don't know what happened but what I can see here is that you've gotten strong and you now know something you didn't know last year. Just hit the ground running with your new knowledge and equipment and you'll be fine.

Love the controls on those lescos and the bullrider i think its called is awesome. Stays behind the mower which is great and when backing up you don't have to get off.

Just don't take the bad days personally and know where you wanna go and you'll do fine.

Best of luck this season!

[RedMax Man]

Micah, you must have missed my thread where I sold just about ALL my equipment from the fall. Why did I go from Stander to WB….hmmm BECAUSE I HAD NO CHOICE?! Jesus Christ I’m not F’N “Sman”…..I’ll talk to you on facebook if you want to know my story.



THANK YOU!!!!!! And for the RECORD I didn’t choose to go another route I was forced. I was between a rock and a hard place, I did the absolute best I could and made the best business decision I could for myself. You guys don't know what I was up against or what happened......you just see what I bought and sold.

Some of you know others don’t and those I haven’t told its none of your damn business!!!



DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT, I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE?!!! :hammerhead:

GET THE H3LL OUTTA HERE!!!



Whats YOUR problem Micah?!!????!!



I really cant believe you guys take me for a total fool and complete idiot with no business sense...holy shyt
take a chill pill bud, I wasn't attempting to bash your choices and what u did. i didnt understand a few things. This is why i dont like talkn through text because its so easy to misunderstand stuff and people's attitudes. call me sometime if you want. I lost my connection last night and it started snowing so i had to go to sleep and i was out at 4am plowing. anyway ttyl.
We've talked quite a bit on facebook. I didnt mean to act like I know everything if thats what you are thinking because I certainly do not. Just trying to help him out.

I was a total joke. next time i'll write "i'm kiddn":laugh:

[teamgreendude]

well Jared Im starting to have on of those bad days myself wanted help on homework and thought i left it at home so she said go back to study hall but i also needed help on math homework but she is being a total d#$k so she gave me an iss and now im in study hall typin now. sorry for having nothing to do with a conversation but i want to kill that teacher

[Scag413]

I was a total joke. next time i'll write "i'm kiddn":laugh:[/QUOTE]

Its okay Micah. I wasnt upset or anything I just wanted to make sure that it wasnt taken the wrong way. I hate know it all, matter-of-fact people and I dont want to be one.

[nnj18]

take a chill pill bud, I wasn't attempting to bash your choices and what u did. i didnt understand a few things. This is why i dont like talkn through text because its so easy to misunderstand stuff and people's attitudes. call me sometime if you want. I lost my connection last night and it started snowing so i had to go to sleep and i was out at 4am plowing. anyway ttyl.


I was a total joke. next time i'll write "i'm kiddn":laugh:

OK...I dont have your number tho bro...and I was in a bad mood already and Jonathan was backing me up and it seemed like you had a problem with it.

[teamgreendude]

kid of copying deperro lawns but like he said before i thinks those puchases are great i've been in situation like yours to but i you run into a brick wall find a way to go around it and that is what just what your doing hope you get the wrights and exmark back. Hope you have a great season

[DoetschOutdoor]

You say you had no choice by getting the lescos, what do you mean? Truck looks good, hopefully Ill have the same or similiar truck before long.

[South Florida Lawns]

You say you had no choice by getting the lescos, what do you mean? Truck looks good, hopefully Ill have the same or similiar truck before long.

He had to buy his own truck, because he shared the Dodge with his dad but was making all the payments. He sold all his equipment that he used in 08, and made money because he got a deal on it from another big LCO. But he still needed to get new equipment. He couldn't get a loan from anybody but he does have the deere card so he went with Lesco because JD sucks and so that was his last resort for getting commercial equipment.

I think I got it all.

[JerseyGreen]

those lesco's look just like Great Dane's

[nnj18]

SFL's got it down pretty good...close enough anyway so you guys understand

[South Florida Lawns]

hey how do the wb's fit on that trailer? Aren't they longer than a stander? I think I remember you turning one stander sideways when both were on there. You keep the blowers in the bed of your truck correct?

[nnj18]

They both fit fine, only time I've had to put mowers sideways on it when I have two 48" or larger size mowers + a 36". A few setups I've had on this trailer:

(2) Wright 48" Standers
(1) eXmark 36" TTHP

(1) Ferris 52" WB hydro
(1) Wright 48" Stander
(1) eXmark 36" TTHP

back when I had some nicer mowers :laugh:

I only have
(1) Lesco 48" WB hydro
(1) Lesco 36" WB hydro

so they fit no problem with lots of room left...

[Nick's Lawn Care]

They both fit fine, only time I've had to put mowers sideways on it when I have two 48" or larger size mowers + a 36". A few setups I've had on this trailer:

(2) Wright 48" Standers
(1) eXmark 36" TTHP

(1) Ferris 52" WB hydro
(1) Wright 48" Stander
(1) eXmark 36" TTHP

back when I had some nicer mowers :laugh:

I only have
(1) Lesco 48" WB hydro
(1) Lesco 36" WB hydro

so they fit no problem with lots of room left...

I like that trailer you have Jared.

Its a nice little trailer...

[nnj18]

I like that trailer you have Jared.

Its a nice little trailer...

I like it too....it really is a perfect size and the tandem axles and 2' sides is great! I'm probably going to keep this for landscaping and buy a 16'+ enclosed which gives me room to grow intoa 60" z or something...

[wayside]

SFL's got it down pretty good...close enough anyway so you guys understand


yo man dont stress it . you bought two new mowers ,"" not like you went from good ones to some junk put together"" so save some cash build your company up and later on get better mower's, but over all keep it up and tell the haters to fall back!

[nnj18]

yo man dont stress it . you bought two new mowers ,"" not like you went from good ones to some junk put together"" so save some cash build your company up and later on get better mower's, but over all keep it up and tell the haters to fall back!

thanx man! I'm not too happy about back-tracking and when people actually try and call me out on it without understanding some facts and the situation I was in it pisses me off + I had a terrible day thursday so it didnt help....

hopefully I can get back to the wright/exmark line-up sooner than later! :clapping:

[ponyboy]

jared i dont like lesco but that is only because i found they did not last more than 3 years but for the first 3 years they were fine. Use them for a year pay them off then sell them and get what you want you might like them better then what you had, it is all personal choice that is why there are so many different mowers out there, dont hate something before you use it let your guys give them a try you are still growing as a business you did not step backwards u stepped side ways you might be happier in the long run. i know it is still winter and we all want spring so enjoy the next couple of weeks befor works get going full speed ahead and you have no time for playing you will be fine and more importantly your customers will never know the difference between the machines and will still be happy w you

[Scag413]

jared i dont like lesco but that is only because i found they did not last more than 3 years but for the first 3 years they were fine. Use them for a year pay them off then sell them and get what you want you might like them better then what you had, it is all personal choice that is why there are so many different mowers out there, dont hate something before you use it let your guys give them a try you are still growing as a business you did not step backwards u stepped side ways you might be happier in the long run. i know it is still winter and we all want spring so enjoy the next couple of weeks befor works get going full speed ahead and you have no time for playing you will be fine and more importantly your customers will never know the difference between the machines and will still be happy w you

Great post ponyboy! :clapping: That was a helpful post not only for jared but for everyone else out there that are using something they dont neccesarly want.

[wayside]

thanx man! I'm not too happy about back-tracking and when people actually try and call me out on it without understanding some facts and the situation I was in it pisses me off + I had a terrible day thursday so it didnt help....

hopefully I can get back to the wright/exmark line-up sooner than later! :clapping:

yeah. use both those wb's for now , worrie about saving for a nice used dump truck because using a pickup for lawn care is a big down fall when you want to hall anything.

Im sure along the way alot of people will be selling there stuff for dirt cheap and you can pick a few things up , i just picked up a 52 sentar sport with only 300 hours for 2500 dude had to move and was out of lawn care so i picked it up..

[nnj18]

Oh yeah trust me I know all about good deals haha!

I'm gonna use these lescos for 2yrs probably and them drop them...a dump is on the list and will be bought before new mowers trust me haha

[2brothersyardcare]

nice post pony boy only 2 years and i got all those specs on the truck if u whant 2 talk

[Looking Good Lawn Service]

Took me a lil while to read the whole thread to reply, ...best of luck with your new Chevy truck and the new wb lescos, they are good machines, I have two of the the pistol grip hydro's and they are fine, however, now that I have the walker I use that most, however, walker sucks on inclines, and the lescos are great at them, soo I use them on, also great for no bagging situations, and they are easy to fix and cheap to fix too! Best of Luck with your company, I had similar issues with my company last year, had a argument with my father about the company, but I managed to make it work and now back on my feet.

[nnj18]

Thanx man! The lescos are OK I just hate the controls for reverse....anyways thanx again and have a great season :waving:

[lawn crafters]

honestly i would give them a chance where i live in RI there is one on almost every trailer, you probly wont like them cuz youve had the standers but all i can say is the only thing i dont like about my lesco is its only a 36 and its belt drive. the lescos also leave a very nice stripe

[nnj18]

heres some pix I snapped today while I was having some fun with the truck in this parking lot....sadly my buddy is a complete ****** and forgot to press RECORD on the video camera otherwise I'd have some vids for you :D


Oh and the TOWN plows this lot hahaha!!!!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/random/JK002.jpg



http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK004.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK005.jpg

[S man]

thanx man! I'm not too happy about back-tracking and when people actually try and call me out on it without understanding some facts and the situation I was in it pisses me off + I had a terrible day thursday so it didnt help....

hopefully I can get back to the wright/exmark line-up sooner than later! :clapping:

Yeah sorry dude. I know what you mean. Make some serious money and get back with the stuff you want.:clapping:

[South Florida Lawns]

damn no action shots of the donuts? You guys did get a sh!t ton of snow.

[nnj18]

My buddy f'd up man had it on a video camera, I was drifting, 180s, 360s u name it haha and dumb@ss him doesn't hit the record button :hammerhead:

[nnj18]

btw you notcie that there are TWO cars in the snow pile? One is just about completely burried hahaa guess that's what happen when you park your vehicle on town property overnight lmao

[deere615]

Those cars are pretty buried! i bet you wish you had a plow now!

[nnj18]

Haha oh yeah I would've made bank! I did alright though, $300 for 5 driveways haha....next winter there will be a nice 8' hanging off the front.

[DLAWNS]

How many inches did you guys get. I think we got approximately a foot. I made some good money, but my body hurts so bad. We used a snowblower and shovels, but at 6:00 pm the snowblower died so we had to shovel the last few by hand. I can't move.

[nnj18]

we got about a foot here too...its in the 20s today so maybe I can find a parking lot with some snow on it still and get atleast some pictures haha

[nnj18]

Here is some pictures of my tri-fold mailer I'm sending out....sorry about the clarity took it with my BB and the truck is a 3500HD I'm looking into possibly purchasing

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/advertising/IMG00096.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/advertising/IMG00095.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/IMG00091.jpg

I will get some pictures of my door hangers soon and if you guys complain about these I'll try and scan it or something haha

[DLAWNS]

The pamphlet looks great and that is a nice dump. I would love to get one of those.

[slamjamrockinman]

Mailers look awesome! Very professional. BTW what engine is in the dump truck you are looking at??

[DuallyVette]

Nice mailer. What year and engine are in the truck?

[nnj18]

I believe its a 2000 and has the 6.5l diesel....dont know to many other details 'cause the owner is away on vacation right now haha....not even positive its really a 2000 and the 6.5L either haha, thats just what I guy told me who kinda knows the owner.

[PerfectEarth]

How many paver patios/walkways and retaining walls have you installed? Are you a licensed applicator?

[ponyboy]

6.5 are dogs but they will last. flyer is great but i have to ask cuz here i would be gettind and have gotten a call from consumer protection i dint see your bus lic# if you dont have one please get one and i hope you are insured not just truck insurance. Jared you are smart so i hope you do and the biggest thing dont ever advertise chemicals with out posting your pesticide lic # you are asking for trouble may be in other states but in NJ come on. Besides that they look good

[nnj18]

I've worked for quite a few different guys where I did paver patios/walkways and walls and am pretty confident I can take on these projects myself, if push comes to shove I know of a few guys who are very good who'd come on the job with me to help me out. Also I'm subbing out the fert/weed/pest stuff to licensed buddy

Thanx for the concern :waving:

[ponyboy]

if you do sub them out let your buddy get the legal contracrts signed keep your company away from chemicals untill you have your liscen the fines can run up and over $10k in NY the DEC works on sunday looking for anything my friend got a fine for having a back pack sprayer with round up i think it cost him over $1000 in fines. just becarefull when advertising chemicals if you piss off one person man that is a big mess you could end in. I give my a few of my friends who sub me out my contracts and i do the billing for the chemicals and the work as well

[Nick's Lawn Care]

Here is some pictures of my tri-fold mailer I'm sending out....sorry about the clarity took it with my BB and the truck is a 3500HD I'm looking into possibly purchasing

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/advertising/IMG00096.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/advertising/IMG00095.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/IMG00091.jpg

I will get some pictures of my door hangers soon and if you guys complain about these I'll try and scan it or something haha

DAMN those look good jaz!!!

You will deff. pickup alot of work with those!! You better start picking out your standers you want:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[deere615]

Thats a really nice and professional pamphlet

[wayside]

if you do sub them out let your buddy get the legal contracrts signed keep your company away from chemicals untill you have your liscen the fines can run up and over $10k in NY the DEC works on sunday looking for anything my friend got a fine for having a back pack sprayer with round up i think it cost him over $1000 in fines. just becarefull when advertising chemicals if you piss off one person man that is a big mess you could end in. I give my a few of my friends who sub me out my contracts and i do the billing for the chemicals and the work as well

yeah your right on that ...


jared the truck look good man . pm me how much your looking to spend on a truck see if i can find you something .

[DuallyVette]

If you buy a 6.5 (I have a 3500HD 6.5TD dump also)...It has quirks. I wish I could replace mine with a new 4500/5500. An education concerning them can be found on dieselplace.com

[nnj18]

Well that dump is just a possibility...I'd much rather buy a 4500/5500 with the duramax/allison combo.

Nick, yeah haha hopefully I get a few calls, sending out 5000 of those + 2500 door hangers. If I hit 60 accounts I'm going to go buy a 60"Z.

Wayside thanx for the offer I'll take you up on it.

thanx for all the comments and info....

[Petr51488]

looks good... what do those pamphlets cost to mail out + design?

[nnj18]

Came to $3350ish with a I think 10% discount for 5000 of those + 2500 door hangers with business card attached + mailing list (1 time fee) + design + mailing

3 decent accounts will easily pay for it all and I think I'll probably pick up more likr 20ish..

[DoetschOutdoor]

Those fliers look good, the 3350 price tag not soo much but like you said itll only take a few good customers to make it worth it and your name will be remembered by many of those that dont even call...when they going out? When did you do your first mowings last year?

[nnj18]

Those fliers look good, the 3350 price tag not soo much but like you said itll only take a few good customers to make it worth it and your name will be remembered by many of those that dont even call...when they going out? When did you do your first mowings last year?

ehh $3350 really isnt that bad....do the math for 5000 mailings and 2500 door hangers with 2500 business cards its not all that bad....

here are the door hangers.....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/advertising/IMG00097.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/advertising/IMG00098.jpg

[South Florida Lawns]

Those Fliers look top notch. Thats exactly what I want mine to look like, I seriously need to start designing them. Guess I'm lazy.

[PerfectEarth]

Your website, flyers and hangers sure do talk a big game. Let's be honest- the only jobs I'm aware that you do are-

a. mowing grass
b. leaf jobs
c. mulch

Design consultation????? Hardscapes?? When was the last time you installed a full landscape job or drew up a design? I know you're aiming high- but be honest with yourself and potential customers. You have only ever posted pics of stripes, equipment, trucks, and piles of leaves. Come clean Jaz.

[nnj18]

we'll see p.e, and just a 'lil fyi I've done a heck of a lot more then just abc, so learn your alphabet so you can keep up.

Ryan I paid for the design haha gave him some pictures, logo and list of services and he did basically the rest.

[DLAWNS]

Your website, flyers and hangers sure do talk a big game. Let's be honest- the only jobs I'm aware that you do are-

a. mowing grass
b. leaf jobs
c. mulch

Design consultation????? Hardscapes?? When was the last time you installed a full landscape job or drew up a design? I know you're aiming high- but be honest with yourself and potential customers. You have only ever posted pics of stripes, equipment, trucks, and piles of leaves. Come clean Jaz.

Relax bro, I think he knows his business and what he knows a little more than you do......

[Scag413]

Plus he has knows alot of different guys that he can go to for help or equipment if it came to that. Which for most things it will not; he will handle them on his own

[PerfectEarth]

Hey- I'm just asking for some honest responses. I'm not commenting on the future or potential of Jaz's business. I wish him all the best. I'm questioning the honesty and experience. Jaz has no problems taking and posting pics and I want to see some pics of landscape construction jobs. Or total lawn renovations. I want to see some plants that have been installed....pics of HIS work. Surely there would be some (other than mowing pics) of a landscape job- I know he'd share them with us.

I'm just questioning without trying to bust balls too hard! :) I've been a supporter of Jaz in the past (here and elsewhere) and I know he's only 18. I think some of you younger guys eat this stuff up- the "big game" talk.... I'm just questioning the hangers and flyers in relation to reality.

Knowing and doing is different than "subbing out"

[oakhillslandscaping]

those hangers are awsome im looking into those this year with a break away business card or refrige magnet

[nnj18]

I'll post some pictures of lawns I've installed and plants if you want not a problem.

I agree with you guys talking about big game and stuff, but I know what I can and can't handle. If I don't say I offer services such as hardscaping how do you expect people to ask me for them?

I've taken classes and worked for 3 different guys in several different aspects of landscaping, hardscaping, lot clearing, mowing, etc, etc. I feel confident I can offer these services and complete them. If I didn't do you honestly think I'd still have them listed?? The ONLY thing I'm subbing out is the fert/weed/pest stuff 'cause I'm not licensed.

[nnj18]

hey guys lmk what you think of this logo....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/advertising/logo-1.jpg

[tls22]

Nice pics man. Have a great season. I wish you had ur plow this winter, i did not want it to end. It was a fun winter


:drinkup:

[2brothersyardcare]

is that #4 or 5?

[honeydopm]

Are you changing your company name?

[Petr51488]

Are you changing your company name?

if so, it doesnt look like it has anything to do with the lawn industry.

[Lakewlc]

if so, it doesnt look like it has anything to do with the lawn industry.

yeah thats what i was thinkin

[nnj18]

Nope and its not for lawns...

Tim, I wish I had a plow this winter too! I'll def have one by 2010 haha

[Junior M]

Nope and its not for lawns...

Tim, I wish I had a plow this winter too! I'll def have one by 2010 haha
What kind of biz then?

[nnj18]

What kind of biz then?
ehhh, give me two-three years and you'll see.....

two pix from today (sorry I get too busy working to think about taking pictures of every little thing like some members :laugh: ). But I promise I'll take more hahaaa

one of the truck at the gravel pit (they leave gates open and guys dirt bike in there, if cops come they head out into the woods and theres like 75+ acres behind it).

last is of some of my buddies equipment

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK008.jpg

find my worker!!
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK009.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK007.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK010.jpg

[Junior M]

what do you plan on doing? Pimping? Crack dealing? ;) :laugh:

[South Florida Lawns]

earth moving?

[newtostone]

Came to $3350ish with a I think 10% discount for 5000 of those + 2500 door hangers with business card attached + mailing list (1 time fee) + design + mailing

3 decent accounts will easily pay for it all and I think I'll probably pick up more likr 20ish..

So have you mailed these out yet and how are they working out?

[nnj18]

Ryan you're pretty close lol

Newtostone, 2500 mailers and 1000 door hangers have gone out and about 30 calls so far resulting in 5 signed jobs, 4 are for yearly maintenance. Have 8 more estimates to give and waiting to here back on the others.

So they've done great!!

[South Florida Lawns]

dude you need a leveling kit and some 35's that truck would be good to go in my book. What do you think of the new Silverado's and Sierra's?

[nnj18]

I want to get a 3" lift on it ryan...

Kid down the road bought a 08 chevy duramx, 4x4 is shot with 2000 miles on it....

I like mine though rides now, mpg blows so bad though.

[2brothersyardcare]

nice i see you worker too

[Junior M]

Ryan you're pretty close lol

Newtostone, 2500 mailers and 1000 door hangers have gone out and about 30 calls so far resulting in 5 signed jobs, 4 are for yearly maintenance. Have 8 more estimates to give and waiting to here back on the others.

So they've done great!!
Hardscaping?

And 35's will barely fit on that truck, they'll rub if you turn to sharp, I know cause I am buying a set of wheels and 35's off a guy with the same truck. We cant fit them on our truck so we're going with 33's and turning the torsion bars.. :cool2: We cant lift cause we pull so much, it'd just pull that much worse..

[oakwdman]

Jared, welcome to the bad mpg club lol. 7-13 is the worst/best ive gotten.

[nnj18]

Hardscaping?

And 35's will barely fit on that truck, they'll rub if you turn to sharp, I know cause I am buying a set of wheels and 35's off a guy with the same truck. We cant fit them on our truck so we're going with 33's and turning the torsion bars.. :cool2: We cant lift cause we pull so much, it'd just pull that much worse..

already offer that service....land developement

I talked with a guy he said no problems with his 3" lift...

[nnj18]

Jared, welcome to the bad mpg club lol. 7-13 is the worst/best ive gotten.

oh yeah i'm getting like 10-11 right now...fuggin sux

[Junior M]

already offer that service....land developement

I talked with a guy he said no problems with his 3" lift...
Land development? You mean building?

Oh, dur, I wasnt thinking about the 3in lift part when I was typing that.. :hammerhead:

[nnj18]

Land development? You mean building?

Oh, dur, I wasnt thinking about the 3in lift part when I was typing that.. :hammerhead:

yeah, buy the land, excavate it and build it....if the economy ever gets better

[Junior M]

oh yeah i'm getting like 10-11 right now...fuggin sux
You got the 6.0? Thats about what we get normally, we can get up to 15 with no trailer or tools on the interstate..

[nnj18]

pictures from today, so can you guys sell the customer a spring cleanup and then SELL HIM HIS LEAVES?? :laugh:

heraldo
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK012.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK013.jpg

me on mower
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK016.jpg

heraldo n jonathan
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK018.jpg

what are they blowing BACK INTO the beds??!!!
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK019.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK021.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK020.jpg

proof i do actually work haha, glance up n jonathan has my camera
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK022.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK024.jpg

[ponyboy]

take off the velkey you are leaving ruts in the lawn also make sure you clean your air filter daily after doing work like that. good luck this year

[Junior M]

take off the velkey you are leaving ruts in the lawn also make sure you clean your air filter daily after doing work like that. good luck this year
Look at the pics of the stripes, I see no ruts, I think that is from where he turned..

[ponyboy]

in the 3 pic but it could be longer grass srom last year not cut pics are tough to see the whole story. Stripes we wont see any till 2-3 weeks up here. The bare spots I hope are from the blowers just ripping up the grass because the lawns needs some work, I m sure they know how to operate a lawn mower with out doing damage on turns. Just because a mower can do a zero turn doesnt mean the grass can handel it with out tearing up

[nnj18]

Hahaa that's NOT ruts, the lawns a **** lawn, has holes and stuff. You want I'll take a tape measure and shove you how its impossible for my mower to have done it, I'm supposed to totally reseed the lawn and fixed all the holes.

[South Florida Lawns]

great stuff there, but how are the mowers working out? Looks like they do pretty good with the leaves and that sort of thing. Bet you can't wait to cut some real grass with them. Are they slower than the standers? I raced around my shop yesterday, had a friend on the Z and I was on my stander and the z was like 1 mph faster.

[nnj18]

great stuff there, but how are the mowers working out? Looks like they do pretty good with the leaves and that sort of thing. Bet you can't wait to cut some real grass with them. Are they slower than the standers? I raced around my shop yesterday, had a friend on the Z and I was on my stander and the z was like 1 mph faster.

oh yeah they're nice, I'm actually starting to like them (shhhh you didnt hear that! :laugh: ) they are slower then the standers though.....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK023.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/JJLMC/JK025.jpg

[Petr51488]

Poor Truck...