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olde_blue
02-02-2009, 12:20 PM
I was wondering if anyone used deck-over-axle trailer, with low-profile trailer tires (20.5" diameter by 8" wide, 10" rim) like those designed to haul ATV's and snowmobiles, to haul mowers with?
The advantage of such a trailer design would be a deck over 8' wide to park mowers on (a 36" and a 52" mower could be parked side-by-side, allowing access to either without moving the other).
With the 20.5" diameter tires, you could have a deck within 24-25" from the ground, not much higher than my conventional open trailer's 19" height, so a 5' ramp gate would allow for an okay slope.
I was thinking along these lines:
http://www.continentalcargotrailer.com/images/gallery/snowking/alumsteellarge.jpg
Only shorter with the smaller tires like:
http://www.continentalcargotrailer.com/images/gallery/snowking/cagelarge.jpg
If you could find one with a 12' x 8.5' box, you could fit 36" and 52" Standers or walkbehinds in the front (side by side), with a 60" to 72" Z behind in the compact package of a 12' long trailer.
Here's a link to the specs on the small trailer; the 2500 lbs payload is minimal, but the 20.5" tires can be had with up to "F" load ratings, so you could build a trailer with a 6600 lbs GVWR: http://www.continentalcargotrailer.com/default.asp?page=models&unit=snowking&choice=specs&specs=85wata

South Florida Lawns
02-02-2009, 07:55 PM
Never seen one of those used for lawn service, but I don't see any problems using one.

gene gls
02-02-2009, 09:48 PM
There atre 2 differant guys in my area that use open trailers about 16-18' long.

dura to the max
02-03-2009, 07:48 PM
just remember that you will lose some payload due to the smaller tires and axles. it will also be topheavy, making it less ideal for longer distances.

slamjamrockinman
02-03-2009, 11:33 PM
I have always thought about this, but then I was at the powersports show and some of those ramps looked awefully steep to drive a mower up. Maybe it was just me though, I guess the only way to find out would be to drive a machine up one. It seems like a great idea though as long as that ramp wouldn't be too steep.

slamjamrockinman
02-03-2009, 11:35 PM
I was wondering if anyone used deck-over-axle trailer, with low-profile trailer tires (20.5" diameter by 8" wide, 10" rim) like those designed to haul ATV's and snowmobiles, to haul mowers with?
The advantage of such a trailer design would be a deck over 8' wide to park mowers on (a 36" and a 52" mower could be parked side-by-side, allowing access to either without moving the other).
With the 20.5" diameter tires, you could have a deck within 24-25" from the ground, not much higher than my conventional open trailer's 19" height, so a 5' ramp gate would allow for an okay slope.
I was thinking along these lines:
http://www.continentalcargotrailer.com/images/gallery/snowking/alumsteellarge.jpg
Only shorter with the smaller tires like:
http://www.continentalcargotrailer.com/images/gallery/snowking/cagelarge.jpg
If you could find one with a 12' x 8.5' box, you could fit 36" and 52" Standers or walkbehinds in the front (side by side), with a 60" to 72" Z behind in the compact package of a 12' long trailer.
Here's a link to the specs on the small trailer; the 2500 lbs payload is minimal, but the 20.5" tires can be had with up to "F" load ratings, so you could build a trailer with a 6600 lbs GVWR: http://www.continentalcargotrailer.com/default.asp?page=models&unit=snowking&choice=specs&specs=85wata

oops,:hammerhead: I guess i missed that last part. Ya I don't think it would be an issue then.

heymow1
02-22-2009, 09:13 PM
These snowmobile/atv trailers pull harder (less mpg) than the trailers with the 15" rims. I don't think you will have a problem with the ramp with WB's.
Good luck.

olde_blue
02-23-2009, 08:40 AM
Why are they harder to pull? Do the tire have greater rolling resistance, or are the trailers heavier?

I talked to a local utility trailer manufacturer about building an open deck-over, dovetail mower trailer. The problem, he said, was with the brakes and axle rating. The brakes which fit inside 10" rim tires are 7" in diameter, and they do not work well. Plus, while you can get 10" tires with 1500 lbs + weight ratings, the axles which fit the 7" brakes only have 2000 lbs ratings (1000 lbs per tire--you can put them a 3500 lbs axle without brakes.). He suggusted a minimum of 13" tires with 10" brakes--which puts the deck height at arround 28". This is too high for a reasonable side ramp.

heymow1
02-23-2009, 09:12 AM
It must be the rolling resistance that makes these trailers pull harder. My snowmobile trailer's empty weight is less than my boat trailer (both double axle) and the boat trailer pulls much easier. The little drum brakes on the snowmobile trailer don't do much braking. With the controller set all the way on high I could still rotate the tire by hand. This type brake also has a problem being pulled in the winter the salt tends to rust and lock the backing plate making the brakes inoperative. I removed mine as they were more trouble than they were worth.