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Casey jones 1
02-02-2009, 05:43 PM
Hello, I am going to install a sprinkler system in my yard in the next couple of months and have been doing research on what sprinklers I should use. I have come up with K-Rain, and Hunter. Any good suggestions or pro's con's on these brands. Also is it worth the price difference to buy online, or go to a local supplier? Any challenges to buying sprinkler parts online i.e. warranty customer service?

Casey Jones

DanaMac
02-02-2009, 05:46 PM
If those are your choices, go Hunter. If you're a homeowner you might not be able to buy at local suppliers. Don't buy Home Depot or Lowes junk. Warranty online will be difficult.

hoskm01
02-02-2009, 06:12 PM
If those are your choices, go Hunter. If you're a homeowner you might not be able to buy at local suppliers. Don't buy Home Depot or Lowes junk. Warranty online will be difficult.
Ditto what Dana said. Are those your only two choices? Theres a lot of other stuff out there.

Why not consider Rain Bird and Hunter? Irritrol makes a few good items too, but not much better in that line than Hunter or RainBrd

allinearth
02-02-2009, 07:55 PM
Ditto what Dana said. Are those your only two choices? Theres a lot of other stuff out there.

Why not consider Rain Bird and Hunter? Irritrol makes a few good items too, but not much better in that line than Hunter or RainBrd

I knew someone would bring up Rain Bird.:rolleyes: Go Hunter:cool2:

bicmudpuppy
02-02-2009, 08:28 PM
WHERE are you going to get the parts? If your shopping on-line and your positive they are selling professional grade products, then the question becomes very similar to the Ford/Chevy/GMC argument to replace your car. If being able to get local warranty and advice means anything (or is even an option), then the question gets simpler. A search of this site will find the Hunter/Rainbird/Irritrol/Toro question beat to a bloody pulp. The question gets down to the most basics of basics when you figure out the WHERE, not the WHAT. IF you can buy a professional grade product locally, I encourage you to do so. A local supply house should be honest with product and be there if you have problems. I used to fall into the same Toro basher that most of the guys here can be, until they integrated the Irritrol line. If a Toro supplier is your best choice for service, don't be afraid of S800 rotors, 570 sprays, 250 series valves, and a total control controller. A Toro supplier should be able to get you Irritrol 2500 valves as well.


Rainbird and Hunter choices are here in enough repetition to let you make your own decisions.

Wet_Boots
02-02-2009, 08:44 PM
Aww, give the Stream Rotors a tout, willya?

Mike Leary
02-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Aww, give the Stream Rotors a tout, willya?

Oh yah, saw some on sale at the Napa store the other day. Plastic arc disks, though; is that o.k.?

Waterit
02-02-2009, 10:25 PM
Oh yah, saw some on sale at the Napa store the other day. Plastic arc disks, though; is that o.k.?

There's a place right across the street to get pipe,too

133879

Stuttering Stan
02-02-2009, 11:05 PM
K Rain all the way. I knew somebody would come over to the dark side. While your at it, look into lawn belt!!!

mitchgo
02-03-2009, 01:02 AM
There's a place right across the street to get pipe,too



Hahahah! No Freakin way!

mitchgo
02-03-2009, 01:04 AM
K-Rain is like using Wood Glue as Wax for my Ski's..

go hunter or rain bird

AI Inc
02-03-2009, 07:21 AM
There's a place right across the street to get pipe,too

133879

Sams stereo and storm door?

Waterit
02-03-2009, 08:38 AM
Sams stereo and storm door?

Walt's Bait and Tackle & Church of God located in NE Alabama - I swear

CAPT Stream Rotar
02-03-2009, 08:46 AM
Aww, give the Stream Rotors a tout, willya?

Toro!

They only toro product that i enjoy

BrandonV
02-03-2009, 09:00 AM
1 out of 20 irrigators prefer the quality and crapmenship of toro irrigation products.

CAPT Stream Rotar
02-03-2009, 01:09 PM
1 out of 20 irrigators prefer the quality and crapmenship of toro irrigation products.

For failsafe I would have to go Hunter...plain and simple..

Pro Edge Lawn & Landscape
02-03-2009, 02:29 PM
rainbird each and every install!!

rlpsystems
02-03-2009, 07:50 PM
1 out of 20 irrigators prefer the quality and crapmenship of toro irrigation products.

Well said.

Casey jones 1
02-09-2009, 05:14 PM
Thank you for your advice. I never knew that a "Simple" question would turn into such a topic. Based upon everyone's opinion I will use Hunter products. It is snowing here in Utah so It will be a couple of months before I even start Trenching.


Casey Jones

TRILAWNCARE
02-09-2009, 06:26 PM
Thank you for your advice. I never knew that a "Simple" question would turn into such a topic. Based upon everyone's opinion I will use Hunter products. It is snowing here in Utah so It will be a couple of months before I even start Trenching.


Casey Jones

You might as well tell us what the specs are for your system, now that you know what brand heads your going to use. So everyone can tell you there opinion if the system will work or not. Before you find out the hard way, it doesn't.


Static PSI, maximum GPM flow, size of water connection, size and kind of backflow preventer, what kind and size of valves, # of zones, # of heads per zone, size and class of pipe your planning on using from connection to valve, size pipe and class of pipe from valve to heads, distance from connect to valves, distance from valve to heads, type of heads (spray, rotor), size nozzle in each head, total GPM per zone, elevation changes, make and model controller, size wire for zones wiring, distance from controller to valve (for wire sizing)....

Did I miss anything?

Sprinkus
02-09-2009, 08:41 PM
Did I miss anything?

The plot plan so we can do the design for free? :laugh:

Ummm, I'll be out of town again this week. Read y'all on Friday or Saturday, and have a good week all!

Waterit
02-09-2009, 09:56 PM
Did I miss anything?

What type of pipe, glue and/primer; pulling or trenching; how deep; phase of moon...

hoskm01
02-09-2009, 11:49 PM
yes..............

Armadillolawncare
02-10-2009, 12:06 AM
prevailing winds, humidity, soil type, local codes are you left or right handed

Kiril
02-10-2009, 12:20 AM
and not a single comment on proper hydrozoning. :nono:

Wet_Boots
02-10-2009, 08:46 AM
One zone, mix rotors and sprays.

Kiril
02-10-2009, 08:48 AM
One zone, mix rotors and sprays.

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FIMCO-MEISTER
02-10-2009, 09:14 AM
You have no business putting a system in that desert country. The water resources in your area are taxed enough without the doofus attempt to have green lawns in Utah. Throw that rotor water high in the air and watch half evaporate before hitting the ground....BRILLIANT. Are you depleting the ground water or robbing the Colorado?

Waterit
02-10-2009, 09:29 AM
You have no business putting a system in that desert country. The water resources in your area are taxed enough without the doofus attempt to have green lawns in Utah. Throw that rotor water high in the air and watch half evaporate before hitting the ground....BRILLIANT. Are you depleting the ground water or robbing the Colorado?

Wow. Sleep OK last night Peter?

FIMCO-MEISTER
02-10-2009, 09:32 AM
Wow. Sleep OK last night Peter?

Yeah I guess, same as usual. Heading to Austin today for a CEU course so I thought I'd fling some sh@t on the wall before I leave.

Mike Leary
02-10-2009, 09:41 AM
I thought I'd fling some sh@t on the wall before I leave.

Good way to start the day; fling some! Well flung, Peter.

Wet_Boots
02-10-2009, 09:41 AM
Maybe Kiril can set up a Rocks 'r' Us franchise in Utah.

Kiril
02-10-2009, 10:29 AM
Maybe Kiril can set up a Rocks 'r' Us franchise in Utah.

They don't allow people like me into Utah. :rolleyes:

Mike Leary
02-10-2009, 10:51 AM
They don't allow people like me into Utah. :rolleyes:

As long as you don't bring your rocks, you can ride with us anytime. :)

Wet_Boots
02-10-2009, 10:52 AM
They let me in, they'll let anyone in. Just carry a copy of Watchtower to distract them.

ARGOS
02-10-2009, 11:02 AM
You have no business putting a system in that desert country. The water resources in your area are taxed enough without the doofus attempt to have green lawns in Utah. Throw that rotor water high in the air and watch half evaporate before hitting the ground....BRILLIANT. Are you depleting the ground water or robbing the Colorado?

As much as I love putting in a nice sod lawn I have to agree with you. Responsible water management is a requirement of our job. If an LA isn't involved then the contractor should encourage or direct the customer to reduce turf areas and enlarge beds with natives (or rocks).

I was planning on taking the backflow testers course with the California Nevada Section of the AWWA in March in Modesto, but I no longer see the course offered in Modesto. I know that USC offers one in Los Angeles and Las Vegas. I know ML, Bic, and Sprinkus have their tester cert, what association did you guys take the course through?

Kiril
02-10-2009, 11:10 AM
They let me in, they'll let anyone in. Just carry a copy of Watchtower to distract them.

ROFL http://www.websmileys.com/sm/obscene/eck15.gif

Casey jones 1
02-10-2009, 11:34 AM
They let me in, they'll let anyone in. Just carry a copy of Watchtower to distract them.

LOL! My aunt is a J-Dub and every year I call and wish her Happy Birthday, and a Merry Christmas. Needless to say she has never liked me much.

Mike Leary
02-10-2009, 11:34 AM
what association did you guys take the course through?

In WA State, it's taken at a technical school (WETRIC), sponsored by the State. I believe, now, a re-cert. is specified every two or three years; funny how bad testing habits creep in.

Casey jones 1
02-10-2009, 12:24 PM
You have no business putting a system in that desert country. The water resources in your area are taxed enough without the doofus attempt to have green lawns in Utah. Throw that rotor water high in the air and watch half evaporate before hitting the ground....BRILLIANT. Are you depleting the ground water or robbing the Colorado?


Secondary water. I pay $26.00 dollars a month, and there is no meter. Provo City has not mandated a meter system yet on secondary water.

Casey

Wet_Boots
02-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Secondary water. I pay $26.00 dollars a month, and there is no meter. Provo City has not mandated a meter system yet on secondary water.

CaseyFor twenty-six bucks, you could just buy beer and wizz on the shrubbery....

ARGOS
02-10-2009, 01:47 PM
For twenty-six bucks, you could just buy beer and wizz on the shrubbery....

You wouldn't be depleting the ground water, but you may still be robbing the Colorado (depending on the beer of course). Sundays are a no wizz day in Utah.

FIMCO-MEISTER
02-10-2009, 03:47 PM
Twenty six dollars for water in the desert! That is theft of resource. Redford needs to quit being a left wing kook/doofus and make you guys pay a hundred for every thousand gallons you use. That is friggin western welfare subsidized by the tax payers.

One a sunny note I'm at N30'10.786'. W097'43.362' camped for three days

Wet_Boots
02-10-2009, 03:52 PM
Twenty six dollars for water in the desert! That is theft of resource. Redford needs to quit being a left wing kook/doofus and make you guys pay a hundred for every thousand gallons you use. That is friggin western welfare subsidized by the tax payers.

One a sunny note I'm at N30'10.786'. W097'43.362' camped for three days::sends co-ordinates to Pentagon with photo of Bin Laden thumbing his nose::

Casey jones 1
02-17-2009, 12:45 PM
Twenty six dollars for water in the desert! That is theft of resource. Redford needs to quit being a left wing kook/doofus and make you guys pay a hundred for every thousand gallons you use. That is friggin western welfare subsidized by the tax payers.

One a sunny note I'm at N30'10.786'. W097'43.362' camped for three days

LOL! Redford? I wouldn't want anything to do with that nut job. I got escorted off his property (Sundance) for making a comment about him. I also find it very Ironic that Robert Redford in all of his "Tree Hugging" ways and all about the earth, then why did he build a ski resort? We don't use much water from the Colorado. But if you are referring to the Upper Colorado River Basin then we do use that water. Most of the Utah County/Salt Lake County gets its water from our water sheds (Wasatch Front). Utah's slogan is "The Greatest Snow on Earth"


Casey

FIMCO-MEISTER
02-17-2009, 01:27 PM
LOL! Redford? I wouldn't want anything to do with that nut job. I got escorted off his property (Sundance) for making a comment about him. I also find it very Ironic that Robert Redford in all of his "Tree Hugging" ways and all about the earth, then why did he build a ski resort? We don't use much water from the Colorado. But if you are referring to the Upper Colorado River Basin then we do use that water. Most of the Utah County/Salt Lake County gets its water from our water sheds (Wasatch Front). Utah's slogan is "The Greatest Snow on Earth"


Casey

I'm reading CADILLAC DESERT so I have a burr on my butt about western water use. You are in a desert climate right? I was recently in south Utah I guess mid december and a biologist I ran into said they were really hurting for snow. I'll investigate the Wasatch Front. I'm moving to Fort Collins and I'm trying to learn everything about western water sources and use. I drove by Powell and it was ugly and low. A lake in southern Utah makes no sense to me.

ARGOS
02-17-2009, 10:28 PM
I'm reading CADILLAC DESERT so I have a burr on my butt about western water use. You are in a desert climate right? I was recently in south Utah I guess mid december and a biologist I ran into said they were really hurting for snow. I'll investigate the Wasatch Front. I'm moving to Fort Collins and I'm trying to learn everything about western water sources and use. I drove by Powell and it was ugly and low. A lake in southern Utah makes no sense to me.

Fimco I was wondering if you had gotten to Cadillac Desert yet. Stirring book. I found the history extremely interesting. I would like to fact check Reisner on some of his conclusions, but in general the book is right on.

FIMCO-MEISTER
02-18-2009, 10:18 AM
Fimco I was wondering if you had gotten to Cadillac Desert yet. Stirring book. I found the history extremely interesting. I would like to fact check Reisner on some of his conclusions, but in general the book is right on.

I'm 2/3s through. A little bit of a tough read but very good book. Get lost with all the names and places. Reisner to me is struggling with his environmental side and the obvious human need for water. I think he does the history pretty well.

CA is clearly the 3000LB gorilla on water issues. As he said water flows towards wealth and power. Screw the little guy and the environment as far as CA has been concerned. From here all the CA screaming about the environment, welfare, and other liberal pet causes rings really flat based on their history. TX hasn't been much better but we don't seem so two-faced about it compared to CA. I'm going to send a donation in to the local chapter of our Environmental Defense Fund before I leave TX.

One of my concerns with this Stimulus Bill are the make work projects the Govt. crammed into them. Seems our history with water management has been more about make work projects than any real strategic planning. If anybody sees a stupid or any water project bring it to our attention for debate please.

Kiril
02-18-2009, 12:42 PM
Fimco I was wondering if you had gotten to Cadillac Desert yet. Stirring book. I found the history extremely interesting. I would like to fact check Reisner on some of his conclusions, but in general the book is right on.

It was required reading for my water law course .... I did the skim read ... found it utterly boring. Maybe I should give it another try.

Wet_Boots
02-18-2009, 12:56 PM
Is there a Cliff Notes version?

Mike Leary
02-18-2009, 12:58 PM
How about twenty-five words or less?

FIMCO-MEISTER
02-18-2009, 01:20 PM
How about twenty-five words or less?

Water flowing downhill government taxes

Water pumped at taxpayer expense uphill government subsidizes

FIMCO-MEISTER
02-18-2009, 01:22 PM
It was required reading for my water law course .... I did the skim read ... found it utterly boring. Maybe I should give it another try.

It is boring but still the history makes it worth the struggle for me. I have new found respect for Carter due to this book.

Casey jones 1
02-19-2009, 04:46 PM
I'm reading CADILLAC DESERT so I have a burr on my butt about western water use. You are in a desert climate right? I was recently in south Utah I guess mid december and a biologist I ran into said they were really hurting for snow. I'll investigate the Wasatch Front. I'm moving to Fort Collins and I'm trying to learn everything about western water sources and use. I drove by Powell and it was ugly and low. A lake in southern Utah makes no sense to me.

Yes we are in a desert climate. I am neutral on Lake Powell. It is good and bad in my opinion. Yes it does hold water back, for the farmers to irrigate their crops, and the power that is generated from the dam is a clean source of energy. It is a great recreation spot and generates thousands of dollars for the local towns that surround the lake. The bad would be it has left a "Ugly" ring around the outer shores cause of low lake lvls. Lake Powell is so large that it has "Swallowed" up Indian Culture, and it has disturbed some native species of fish. California is the evil enemy when it comes to water. Hell they just barely passed their 42 billion dollar budget. Utah's budget I think was around 1.5 billion.

Casey

Casey jones 1
02-19-2009, 04:50 PM
You wouldn't be depleting the ground water, but you may still be robbing the Colorado (depending on the beer of course). Sundays are a no wizz day in Utah.

I take it you have been in Utah and you couldn't buy beer on Sunday. You should be like my dad and purchase a 24 pack of Natural Light on Saturday.

Casey Jones

irritation
02-19-2009, 05:00 PM
You should be like my dad and purchase a 24 pack of Natural Light on Saturday.

Casey Jones

That should get some good responses.
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Casey jones 1
02-19-2009, 05:06 PM
That should get some good responses.
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I guess beer + X is always a good thing. Beer and Budweiser Girls is my favorite less the beer for me.

irritation
02-19-2009, 05:12 PM
I guess beer + X is always a good thing. Beer and Budweiser Girls is my favorite less the beer for me.

Budweiser Girls??

http://www.freewebs.com/marshad/543-the-budweiser-girls.jpg

Casey jones 1
02-19-2009, 05:16 PM
Budweiser Girls??

http://www.freewebs.com/marshad/543-the-budweiser-girls.jpg

LOL! Close but no cigar.

DanaMac
02-19-2009, 05:17 PM
Budweiser Girls??

http://www.freewebs.com/marshad/543-the-budweiser-girls.jpg

Croak!! Shudder!!! Falls over dead..............

Waterit
02-19-2009, 06:07 PM
Irritation's sig says it all

TRILAWNCARE
02-19-2009, 06:25 PM
Wait a minute........... Opps guess not...


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Stuttering Stan
02-19-2009, 09:35 PM
Wait a minute........... Opps guess not...


Holy crap in my pants!!! Didn't see that one coming.
:::::: Reaches for Depends diaper:::::::::::

hoskm01
02-19-2009, 09:51 PM
Holy crap in my pants!!! Didn't see that one coming.
:::::: Reaches for Depends diaper:::::::::::
You might as well just take a shower....



WOW, I cant stop laughing, after I threw up.

Casey jones 1
04-03-2009, 05:02 PM
I was going to start trenching in April, but it is hard when there is 6" of fresh snow on the ground....