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Advanced Lawn Care, Inc.
02-08-2009, 06:21 PM
I was thinking of buying a 20 or 22' enclosed trailer. I wasn't sure how my chevy 2500hd with a 6.0L gas would do with a trailer this size and what I could expect with gas mileage.

Advanced Lawn Care, Inc.
02-08-2009, 09:21 PM
Somebody has to be pulling an enclosed trailer with a gas engine, let me know how it is on your vehicle. Is there a lot of pull on the truck?

ford550
02-08-2009, 09:34 PM
We pull a 22' haulmark enclosed, but we pull with a Ford F550 with a 7.3L diesel, don't really feel it back there.

Advanced Lawn Care, Inc.
02-08-2009, 09:39 PM
Yeh, I figured the diesel would pull it with no problem but I am wondering if the gas would pull it fairly easy or is it going to be to much

CrystalCreek
02-08-2009, 09:45 PM
My neighbor has a 24' 8.5' wide snow mobile trailer. It has four sleds in it. About 3000 Lbs of sleds. The trailer weighs about 3500 Lbs. His truck is a F-250, 5.4 gas engine, Crew Cab long bed. The truck is lifted 8" with 38" tires. We have not had a chance to redo the gears to compensate the lift and tires. Guess what, truck pulls that big trailer with NO PROBLEMS!!! I know this is not a landscaping set up, but maybe it will shed some light. I think you will be fine with the gas engine. Oh, did I mention that his gas mileage sucks something awful:laugh: Diesel are great for towing, but gas can hold its own.

CrystalCreek
02-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Sorry, forgot to mention, his trailer is also enclosed.

Advanced Lawn Care, Inc.
02-08-2009, 09:53 PM
Thats what I was afraid of my truck only gets maybe 9-10 mpg with my open 18'. Also, I here alot of people with diesel say that they can barely tell there is a trailer even being pulled. I can feel the pull with just my open 18' and I didn't want to have to hammer it every time just to get the enclosed going and stay up to speed on highways.

fool32696
02-09-2009, 02:18 AM
An enclosed is a lot harder on a truck to pull than an open trailer by far! If you're mainly doing residentials you need to look at if you need to be hauling all of that stuff around. If you need multiple larger machines for big accounts and actually need a huge setup, go for it. It should do fine. If you're looking at long term I'd eventually get a diesel, dually setup for something that size.

Advanced Lawn Care, Inc.
02-09-2009, 09:57 AM
Thank you for the input, I would hate to have spent $4000 - $8000 on a trailer and find out it isn't going to work out

POPO4995
02-09-2009, 10:43 AM
I ordered a 8.5x28' enclosed for lawn maintenance. I wanted something big enough to haul every possible thing the crew would need so I had to go to 28'. It will be pulled by a 2500HD 6.0L for awhile to try it out. The truck will pull it I know, but the mileage is going to suck. I will eventually buy a Duramax or Cummins for it but I want to see how the economy is going to go this year first.

Grasskeepers
02-09-2009, 02:06 PM
you could pull that with a half ton with out a problem

DUSTYCEDAR
02-09-2009, 02:12 PM
youll be fine milage will stink but why worrie just do it

davis45
02-09-2009, 02:18 PM
We have pulled 20' - 30' enclosed car haulers with our 1500HD 6.0. Handles them pretty good untill you get to the bigger ones. We were always on the interstate but we got about 10 or 11 mpg.

OrangeToys
02-09-2009, 03:05 PM
Can we see some pics of all you guys and the big trailers your pulling? I wanna see that 8.5'x28' trailer and the 22'

South Florida Lawns
02-09-2009, 03:17 PM
My uncle pulls a 28ft enclosed car hauler with an 07' 2500 suburban that has the 6.0 in it. It does a great job but when you start getting into the mountains the tranny temps get high and the fuel millage starts really sucking. We put Mag-Hytec pan under there with synthetic fluid and the auto stay's much cooler now. Fuel millage still sucks in the mountains.

South Florida Lawns
02-09-2009, 03:26 PM
Heres a pic just getting the thing outta the drive way. Things are so tight in L.A. that we use the F-150 to get it out of the driveway, then hook the suburban up to it on the street!

davevoyna
02-10-2009, 12:22 AM
I have a 7x16 enclosed trailed with 2 riders and a walkbehind in it and with a hemi I only got 6mpg in town and when I switched to a cummins I am now getting 14 in town with the same amount of weight.

srl28
02-10-2009, 01:03 AM
We pulled one of our 8x 18 enclosed mowing trailers with the 05 f350 gas 5,4. it did it, wasnt the best and took its time gettin there but once it was rollin it went well. sucked through gas pretty well and after a while it does beat the truck up but not too bad. Would do it again but not now that we have the diesel dumps to pull it with, diesel is by far better for towing

justanotherlawnguy
02-11-2009, 04:30 PM
i have a 16" v nose, so it is almost 20 feet long that i pull with a 6.0 1500hd. probably weighs around 4500lbs loaded on a daily basis and I get 7.5mpg like clockwork...

POPO4995
02-11-2009, 05:57 PM
Can we see some pics of all you guys and the big trailers your pulling? I wanna see that 8.5'x28' trailer and the 22'

They just called me today. My 28' is getting built starting Monday. Should be able to pick it up around the end of the month.

letsplay
02-11-2009, 06:30 PM
I have a 20' x 8.5' enclosed pace car trailer that we haul construction equipment, tractors and about anything else. I HAD a 2005 GMC 2500 6.0 that I used to pull it.
I had no problems pulling the trailer but the fuel economy was terrible.


Another factor about trailers pulling smooth behind your truck is the quality of the trailer and if you have it properly leveled off with you truck hitch. Cheap, crappy quality trailers run like having a boat anchor on a chain behind your truck. They will beat you to death and the same can be said if you don't keep the trailer level with the truck.

I traded my 2005 GMC 2500 6.0 in after one year for a diesel and won't ever have another gas truck if I have to pull trailers. The best fuel economy on the 6.0 pulling is now the worst fuel economy with my diesel. The diesels are more but each company had to do what works within their budget.

I don't see how you guys drive all these 24 and 28 foot enclosed trailers in neighbor hoods unless you are doing more commercial business. I don't think you could even turn those things around in a culdasac and I know you could not with cars parked in one.

Advanced Lawn Care, Inc.
02-11-2009, 08:52 PM
You hit the nail on the head when you said "its what fits into your budget". I would love to own a diesel right now but its not in the budget. It sounds like from hearing the comments that I will be fine for a year or two pulling it with my gas 6.0 until I get a diesel. Thanks everybody for the comments

Looking Good Lawn Service
02-11-2009, 10:42 PM
I have both gas and diesel and have to say considering the gas truck, the 6.0 vortec holds its own fairly well pulling our 8.5x16 with the extended tongue(bout 21ft overall) the truck is a 3500 w a 10ft dump, it pulls the trailer, a full load of crushed leaves, the leaf vacumn no problem. Now, I have powerstroke diesels, both 7.3 and 6.0 and they are faster with the trailer up hills and such, but not really a difference in town or in a neighborhood. The duramax does a nice job of pulling the trailer too, but like I said the biggest difference is on the highway and in hilly regions, other than that the mileage will suffer more with the gasser, gets about 8.5-10mpg with the trailer all around city/highway mix.

lawnbandit
02-11-2009, 10:58 PM
thats a big trailer for every day work, just my 2 cents.

PROCUT1
02-12-2009, 02:10 AM
Pull a 24 ft enclosed with six foot extended tongue.

Pull with a variety of trucks. Mostly mid 90's chevy 2500 pickups with 5.7 gas.

lawnbandit
02-12-2009, 06:56 PM
well if you dont care about profit buy a big trailer with a gas power truck, the right tool for the job is a diesel then the trailer.(why spend your profit on gas?):hammerhead:

letsplay
02-12-2009, 07:20 PM
No one asked your opinion on profit he asked opinions on pulling a trailer with the setup he had. Not everyone can just guy buy the best, the biggest and the brightest truck and trailer out there. Maybe that is why so many guys are going out of business because they thought a pretty truck would make them money. I wish I had my old gas truck back because it sure is alot cheaper to fill that tank up at the end of the month then it is for the diesel truck payment. Again each company has their own needs and set ups. Guess what trucks don't make you money. The people you work with and your customers make you money.

KGR landscapeing
02-12-2009, 07:53 PM
I was gonna say yes go ahead and do it. But then i thought for a momment and went i used to pull a 28ft with a reg cab 3500 single rear tires. And you werent gonna win any drag races with that. But we pulld that trailer 6 days a week and then throw the 8ft meyers on the truck all winter. Ull be fine just have good trailer brakes. Its not the getting going its the stopping.

POPO4995
03-02-2009, 12:12 PM
Here's a link to my 28' ..... http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?p=2816029&posted=1#post2816029

kmzlawncare
03-02-2009, 09:48 PM
I pull a 24 foot enclosed trailer with no problems. I have a ford f-350 with single rear wheels and a v-10. As for the gas its not much different with or without the trailer the gas isnt that great either way but I have plenty of power. I also have diesels I like them too they just cost a lot more to buy and the maintenance cost a lot more. Good luck I think your truck will do fine just keep your trailer breaks working.

PLS-Tx
03-03-2009, 11:03 PM
We pull a 20' enclosed with a Cummins, it don't know it's back there. I almost got a gas but I'm sure glad I got the Cummins.

But, you get what YOU can afford, I pulled a 16' open trailer with a F-150 with a straight 6 for years. That was a good truck, but we worked into the ground.

johnnybravo8802
03-04-2009, 12:28 PM
I used to have a light duty F250 with the 5.4 Triton and I felt it was really weak on power. I pulled a 12" chipper behind it one day and it really struggled with it-suspension and power. The truth is, I've always had gas engines and you have to stomp them at the bottom of every hill just to make it up them. Just the wind resistance on my 18' open trailer would drag it down. My next truck is a diesel!!!:clapping::weightlifter: I wouldn't have anything less than a dually with a diesel for that setup if I hauled it everyday.

King Cuts Landscaping
03-04-2009, 04:53 PM
I was thinking of buying a 20 or 22' enclosed trailer. I wasn't sure how my chevy 2500hd with a 6.0L gas would do with a trailer this size and what I could expect with gas mileage.

We have a 2007 Chevy reg. cab 4x4 8 foot bed 2500HD 6.0 gas. We have pulled our 20 foot enclosed trailer many times with the Chevy with no problem. Sure you know its back there but it pulls it just fine. Get about 10mpg with a 32, 48 and two 60 riders in the trailer. Most of the time the F 550 pulls the 20 footer and the 2500 pulls the 16 footer. BIG difference between the two trucks and trailers, but the Chevy is a strong little truck Iíll tell you that much!:weightlifter:

signature lawns
03-04-2009, 05:23 PM
We have a 18' enclosed, and find it troublesome at times to park the rig. I couldn't

imagine hauling around a 22'. Can't speak for the gas, but our diesel makes the trailer

hardly noticeable going up hills.

:gmctruck:

johnnybravo8802
03-04-2009, 06:09 PM
The bulk of an enclosed trailer kept me from buying one. That's a lot of bulk to lug around everyday. That's what I liked about my Box Isuzu-you could turn it on a dime and get into tight spots.

King Cuts Landscaping
03-04-2009, 07:33 PM
[QUOTE=signature lawns;2822077]We have a 18' enclosed, and find it troublesome at times to park the rig. I couldn't imagine hauling around a 22'. Can't speak for the gas, but our diesel makes the trailer hardly noticeable going up hills.

We use the F 550 to pull our 8.5X20 enclosed trailer for commercial accounts and if itís not being used for landscaping, but I wouldnít recommend using it for your day to day residential accounts b/c itís hard to turn that thing around in tight places and for fuel reasons. Our day to day residential we use our Chevy 2500 and the 16 footer much better on gas and easier to find parking in neighbor hoods and cul-de-sacs.

All new toys??

2008 GMC Sierra 2500 HD Duramax/Allison Crew Cab
2008 Haulmark 8.5'X18' Enclosed Thrifty Hauler Trailer
2008 eXmark 60" Lazer Z XS 25HP Kubota Diesel
2008 eXmark 48" 19 HP Kawasaki Turf Tracer
2008 eXmark 21" Metro Kawasaki W/BBC

Nice set up! I like the black on black truck & trailer combo, but I bet its hard as hell to keep clean!

signature lawns
03-13-2009, 12:05 PM
Thanks King Cuts Landscaping...Yes new toys as of last June,and yes black looks great when clean...and very crappy when not so clean