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Southernlandscape343
02-10-2009, 11:21 AM
Well one of my customers spoke with me the other day about his bermuda receding more and more. He has two large trees in the front yard that are blocking out the sun during most of the year. I also know that the roots of these trees go right into where the grass should be. I think it's a combination of the roots sucking up all the water the grass would regularly have and the shading of the grass. He would like me to do something about this. Part of the area has washed away and it continues to wash every time it rains. He mentioned maybe getting fill dirt and filling this area in some but I'm worried the fill dirt is just going to wash out just like the rest of the soil has.
I'm thinking there should be some type of retaining wall or something to hold the fill dirt back. Here are some pictures. I think that I might just bring out the island more since the grass isn't going to grow there anyways. I know I could trim back the trees a good bit, heck I think just taking some of the lower large limbs would make a diffrence. I'm just looking for some more ideas for this yard and how to solve this problem.

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paradise32258
02-10-2009, 01:57 PM
just my 2 cents but i think your right about a small retaining wall and then trim up the canopy then make the bed area slighty larger. but like i said just what i think might work.

treegal1
02-10-2009, 09:47 PM
take some out of the trees canopy, but do it correctly!! then why not continue to do what the trees want, cover the roots and add some nice low ground cover in that area......

don't go nuts with the fill dirt and add some compost to it...

pic#3 make the bed that big!!!!

Southernlandscape343
02-11-2009, 11:57 AM
When you say take some of the canopy off. Do you mean thin out some of the end branches? Sorry if this seems like a "newbie" question.:confused:

treegal1
02-11-2009, 12:10 PM
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/MG087

or try the ISA

just me drop crotch prune and 20% thin

Southernlandscape343
02-11-2009, 12:28 PM
What do you think about those bottom large limbs? Should I take those off? There's one good size branch that goes right over the sidewalk and in the summer the branch hangs down a good ways.

treegal1
02-11-2009, 12:32 PM
JUST ME, NO!!! if you want i can recommend a good arborist that works in that area he is in my old hood over in woodstock, smart guy and has all the answer/insurance....... are you closer to cumming or roswell

Southernlandscape343
02-11-2009, 12:41 PM
This site is over by northpoint mall so I'd say closer to cumming than roswell.

treegal1
02-11-2009, 12:47 PM
talk to acorn tree up that way there good folks, then find some composted manure, try cagles dairy, its a slep but the stuff is good and cheap!!!!

Smallaxe
02-12-2009, 03:35 PM
I would think that getting those roots covered would be a good idea. Seeing exposed tree roots always bothers me.

To prevent more wash I would go with a low growing groundcover as well. The area does not seem particularily useable except a nice hammock stung between the trees.

Thinning the trees to improve the chance of grass, is questionable. Cost effectiveness is always a concern in business. Be open with the client and don't promise that grass will grow once you pay the arborist. :)

The Elements Group
02-12-2009, 06:22 PM
ahh the dreded silver/sugar maple syndrome... happens all the time i never use them and dont recommend anyone use them.. if you do a reataining wall, the roots are going to spread and bust out / through the wall and in a few yrs it is going to look real bad... just cultivet the bed put in a manageble ground cover ( DO NOT USE ENGLISH IVY) LIKE ALOT OF FOLKS IN THE ATLATA AREA AND THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW ANY BETTER
and redefine the turf area and as what tree gall said thin some branches but do not top the tree or any trees for that matter.. if you have any ? let me know and also touch base with me and kets see if we cant help each other out