7% off full season prepay?

[capnsac]

Does anyone do a discount like this? If so, what percent off do you give them?

[Woody82986]

Yes, and between 5% and 8% depending on the client. I don't offer it to everyone. I think if you did a search you would find some more info on the subject.

[capnsac]

Yes, and between 5% and 8% depending on the client. I don't offer it to everyone. I think if you did a search you would find some more info on the subject.

well there in lies my dilemma, because the economy sucks and I am trying to spark interest into my business for the year. I am putting on my door hanger 7% off full mowing season if prepaid by april 1 2009.

The back looks like this...

[Woody82986]

Well, I'd say if you think you can handle doing the lawns for 7% less this season, and it might draw some new clients to you then go for it. You have to figure that the number of people that will actually take you up on that offer will be a small percentage of the people who actually contact you for service from those hangers. How many of those are you going to be putting out?

[Hoots]

I am only offering 5% this year for prepay. I did 10% last year and even that didn't get a huge group.

The way I see it is IF someone has the money (this time of year they should from tax refund) and they plan on having you do all of the apps. then this is a guaranteed way to beat a wall street investment. Why pay regular price through the year when you can save 5% now?

On the flip side. Can you recover the percentage discount in your bank account? Money market can't do it and neither can CD's. The only reason I offer ANY discount is to have one less invoice to have to worry about getting paid for.

my .02

[kootoomootoo]

7% Big deal Might want to try at least 20% in this economy.

Unless you are using the cash as a capital inflow right now to increase productivity / business size its pointless anyways.

[capnsac]

Well, I'd say if you think you can handle doing the lawns for 7% less this season, and it might draw some new clients to you then go for it. You have to figure that the number of people that will actually take you up on that offer will be a small percentage of the people who actually contact you for service from those hangers. How many of those are you going to be putting out?

5,000 of em

[Woody82986]

I'd say that you will probably get a couple people bite on that then.

[DLAWNS]

I offer 5% off if paying for my fertilization program up front. I don't offer it for regular lawn cutting and other maintenance services.

[Lucky Star Lawn Care]

Prepay for 20 get 5% (ends up being a free cut)
Prepay for 10 save 2.5% Only for a certain group

[RGM]

How many cuts are you going to put in the deal capnsac?

[capnsac]

How many cuts are you going to put in the deal capnsac?

The deal will include 32 cuts

[capnsac]

Prepay for 20 get 5% (ends up being a free cut)
Prepay for 10 save 2.5% Only for a certain group

If they prepay for the whole season at 7% it will save them roughly $90. For 50 additional lawns/contracts I will end up $3500 less by the end of the year if they ONLY sign up for mowing. That is if and only if all 50 new accounts I hope to acquire sign up for prepay too.

I believe the chance for extra services will come along with an additional 50 accounts and I will hopefully be able to negate the cost of that 7%

[Lucky Star Lawn Care]

The odds of picking up more services with 50 new accounts is a VERY good bet to take. When I first started this is how the guy did it and I bought him out so I wanted to keep those customers on the same track. New customers don't get this payment option. But I do throw them special offers on different things through the season to drum up more work.

[ffemtmcd]

I do 5% for pre pay - not alot of takers so far though - I was kinda hoping that my current customers would use the refund check to pre pay. Hoping for more as it's still early in season. Like someone already said - 1 less invoice and guaranteed money in pocket!!

[Edgewater]

You must make a lot of margin on lawn service. I will not give up my margins on a low margin service. If the neighbor sees your work and likes it, they will hire you, with or without a prepay discount.

[kootoomootoo]

Why should homeowners give you guys loans at 5-7%. They wont.
Its an interest free loan considering the net present value with a ton of risk.
Lawn mowing guys are some of the worst risks around.

Guess you guys also do not understand the value of money or net present value.
The Homeowner is making 5% with the cash they could pay you in a bank account.....WITH ZERO RISK
....

5 OR 7% discount isnt a discount.

If they prepay for the whole season at 7% it will save them roughly $90. For 50 additional lawns/contracts I will end up $3500 less by the end of the year if they ONLY sign up for mowing. That is if and only if all 50 new accounts I hope to acquire sign up for prepay too.

I believe the chance for extra services will come along with an additional 50 accounts and I will hopefully be able to negate the cost of that 7%

Please take a business course.

[capnsac]

Why should homeowners give you guys loans at 5-7%. They wont.
Its an interest free loan considering the net present value with a ton of risk.
Lawn mowing guys are some of the worst risks around.

Guess you guys also do not understand the value of money or net present value.
The Homeowner is making 5% with the cash they could pay you in a bank account.....WITH ZERO RISK
....

5 OR 7% discount isnt a discount.



Please take a business course.

Ok, so next time you go into Best Buy, Home Depot, Lowes or wherever it is you save a percentage on something go ahead and tell them that they need to take a business course too. You would much rather spend that money than having them let you save it. I'm such an IDIOT in my ways of thinking. :hammerhead:

Or wait, better yet. They shouldn't offer any percentage off EVER. Their net present value is way to high for something that silly. People will flock to stores than! Man, if we only had more people like you in charge we would really be getting somewhere wouldn't we?



You must make a lot of margin on lawn service. I will not give up my margins on a low margin service. If the neighbor sees your work and likes it, they will hire you, with or without a prepay discount.

This is a low margin business. Where else can you buy a $500 mower and make 100 times the amount it's worth with minimal repair cost and minimal skill involved? Not many businesses I can think of.

[Tommy Boy]

We do 10% on pre-pay I have a few who sign up for this, but hard sell for some starting out with you. Hey many have been burned on the past. I again offer this and get quite a few who do pre-pay the second and subsequent seasons.

Only offer this if you can hold the money back somewhat. You spend all the money early you might find it tight later in the season

[Hoots]

[QUOTE=kootoomootoo;2768005]Why should homeowners give you guys loans at 5-7%. They wont.
Its an interest free loan considering the net present value with a ton of risk.
Lawn mowing guys are some of the worst risks around.

Guess you guys also do not understand the value of money or net present value.
The Homeowner is making 5% with the cash they could pay you in a bank account.....WITH ZERO RISK[QUOTE=kootoomootoo;2768005]

I want you to show me where someone is making 5% interest in a bank account. I have looked into a money market account, savings account, and even CD's....THEY ARE AT 2% =/- .5% or lower. The only people making 5% on their money is home mortgage companies and the home owner that pre-pays the lawn service.

The offer of 5% off of your services is good because you have one less invoice to worry about collecting on plus the postage on invoices(who knows when that will stop rising).

The pre-pay gives you the working capital that you might need to purchase new equipment that you might need without the need to pay 10% INTEREST OR MORE on equipment purchases.

Sometimes you need a gimmick to pull customers toward you. I know, people need to hire you on your quality. How many of you can tell me exactly which property each company mows? Which property is taken care of in a professional manner by the home owner? NOBODY KNOWS WHO CUTS WHAT, UNLESS THEY HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY WHILE YOU ARE THERE. Most people work while we mow, so we have to depend on our advertisement i.e. 5% discount.

I continue the pre-pay discount of 5%. I can tolerate the loss of about $1.50 per mow to gain a new customer and have CASH IN HAND.

[Tommy Boy]

You guys are missing the point here: you are quoting "cuts" start using "Service Visits" This way if you have a bad season, you still show up and do 30 mins or so worth of work, bed's, trimming. leaf blow off, etc. If you take money for 26 or 36 cuts, then they can hold you to that. Service visit is defined as service performed that will improve the overall apperance of the property and my include mowing, edging, trimming, bed maintenance, hardscape blow off, service which is required due to turf conditions and need. if you start out weekly and go to 10 days beacause of drought, then you make up the service visits in the fall.

Keep it simple, and leave the customer a written work ticket each visit, so you have the documentation to prove you where there.

[ffemtmcd]

Good point tommy - I'll change the wording in the agreement soon!!

[ffemtmcd]

Why should homeowners give you guys loans at 5-7%. They wont.
Its an interest free loan considering the net present value with a ton of risk.
Lawn mowing guys are some of the worst risks around.

Guess you guys also do not understand the value of money or net present value.
The Homeowner is making 5% with the cash they could pay you in a bank account.....WITH ZERO RISK
....

5 OR 7% discount isnt a discount.



Please take a business course.

It's not a loan - it's payment for services at a discount - they pay me - I show up - if I don't, they get their money back
Not that difficult.

[kootoomootoo]

They get their money back..they hope.
They also hope you don't get sick or injured, move to a different state, spend their cash on a new car and go out of business.

The proof is in your posts ...none of you have sold enough lawn mowing prepaids to make an impact.



I can get a 1yr cd tomorrow at 6%. If you know where.

[Hoots]

They probably have a minimum deposit of $10,000. Right?

I have seen these before.

Where are you going on a Sunday before a holiday to get a 6% CD anyway?

[capnsac]

[QUOTE=kootoomootoo;2768005]Why should homeowners give you guys loans at 5-7%. They wont.
Its an interest free loan considering the net present value with a ton of risk.
Lawn mowing guys are some of the worst risks around.

Guess you guys also do not understand the value of money or net present value.
The Homeowner is making 5% with the cash they could pay you in a bank account.....WITH ZERO RISK[QUOTE=kootoomootoo;2768005]

I want you to show me where someone is making 5% interest in a bank account. I have looked into a money market account, savings account, and even CD's....THEY ARE AT 2% =/- .5% or lower. The only people making 5% on their money is home mortgage companies and the home owner that pre-pays the lawn service.

The offer of 5% off of your services is good because you have one less invoice to worry about collecting on plus the postage on invoices(who knows when that will stop rising).

The pre-pay gives you the working capital that you might need to purchase new equipment that you might need without the need to pay 10% INTEREST OR MORE on equipment purchases.

Sometimes you need a gimmick to pull customers toward you. I know, people need to hire you on your quality. How many of you can tell me exactly which property each company mows? Which property is taken care of in a professional manner by the home owner? NOBODY KNOWS WHO CUTS WHAT, UNLESS THEY HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY WHILE YOU ARE THERE. Most people work while we mow, so we have to depend on our advertisement i.e. 5% discount.

I continue the pre-pay discount of 5%. I can tolerate the loss of about $1.50 per mow to gain a new customer and have CASH IN HAND.

Well said, thank you for your help! :clapping:

[capnsac]

They get their money back..they hope.
They also hope you don't get sick or injured, move to a different state, spend their cash on a new car and go out of business.

The proof is in your posts ...none of you have sold enough lawn mowing prepaids to make an impact.



I can get a 1yr cd tomorrow at 6%. If you know where.

You can't even spell prepays right so how can you know what you're talking about? Maybe you should take an English course...

That's beside the point. How many 'prepaids' do we need to have sold in order to know what we need to be doing? It isn't flipping rocket science man, you give them a bid that, and if they prepay than you have one less invoice to worry about for the rest of the season. It's not hard, in fact it's quite simple and better yet, really rewarding.

[kootoomootoo]

You can't even spell prepays right so how can you know what you're talking about? Maybe you should take an English course...

That's beside the point. How many 'prepaids' do we need to have sold in order to know what we need to be doing? It isn't flipping rocket science man, you give them a bid that, and if they prepay than you have one less invoice to worry about for the rest of the season. It's not hard, in fact it's quite simple and better yet, really rewarding.

When you gross a million a yr. let me know.

[Hoots]

Capnsac, no problem. I try to help when I can.

Kootoomootoo, please enlighten us on how to make that million then. If it cannot be done with offers of discounts, referral kick backs etc. then what is the secret?

[Hoots]

Your comic picture, while accurate in one sense, is innacurate for this situation.

When it is a requirement, that is what can "impede commerce".

When you must come up with a pre-payment, it causes issues. This is why there is no pre-payment or total payment up front when purchasing a car, home, or other big ticket item.

The question for this thread is about the option. If I required pre-payment, I would have very few customers.

[Tommy Boy]

Hoots, simmer down....... Koketomo has a point, from each according to his her ability, to each according to his needs,

He is from Obama land, so please do not do a battle of wits with an unarmed Yankee, it gets messy and they have to fire something nasty back, it’s not their fault, it’s how they’re raised (Lack of sweet tea) Bet the guy has a Yes We Can Sticker on his ZTR

[DLAWNS]

Hoots, simmer down....... Koketomo has a point, from each according to his her ability, to each according to his needs,

He is from Obama land, so please do not do a battle of wits with an unarmed Yankee, it gets messy and they have to fire something nasty back, it’s not their fault, it’s how they’re raised (Lack of sweet tea) Bet the guy has a Yes We Can Sticker on his ZTR

Hey boys, boys, boys...let's not start a civil war (we all know how that ended last time) :laugh: I'm just screwing with you guys! I actually miss the sweet tea. There is only one place you can get it here that is close and it's not as good. That place is Wawa. Now I know you good ol' boys don't know what that is, but it's great. By the way forgive me for sounding stupid but where is Obama Land exactly? Wherever it is...please don't lump me in with that group.

[Tommy Boy]

Bill, I love WaWa, I got hooked on it when I was in training at ACY, we got quick trip here, but just not the same.... Wawa rocks and has great food too, not the 3 day old hot dogs on the same crusty rollers.....

He said Obama land in his profile so this is not Ft. Sumter...

I know you Yankees, I even mated with one (Pittsburgh), told my wife's family at the wedding reception, she may have been born yankee, but after tonight, she'll be southern by injection!

Hope all is well with you my friend

[DLAWNS]

Bill, I love WaWa, I got hooked on it when I was in training at ACY, we got quick trip here, but just not the same.... Wawa rocks and has great food too, not the 3 day old hot dogs on the same crusty rollers.....

He said Obama land in his profile so this is not Ft. Sumter...

I know you Yankees, I even mated with one (Pittsburgh), told my wife's family at the wedding reception, she may have been born yankee, but after tonight, she'll be southern by injection!

Hope all is well with you my friend

That's funny as hell! I tell my wife that she's Italian by injection! lol

[ffemtmcd]

Hey Koo - it works for me and several others so leave it be - if we go under then you can say your i told ya so's.

I'll never be able to make that million because your beloved pres won't let that happen!! so don't worry about that.

Go have some kool aid.

[DLAWNS]

ffemtcd--Good points and funny stuff.:laugh:

[kootoomootoo]

You won't make a million because you don't understand the concepts.
You ladies are rambling on but don't understand posts in this thread. Your posts prove it.

Keep mowing rookies. About all you do understand.

[DLAWNS]

You won't make a million because you don't understand the concepts.
You ladies are rambling on but don't understand posts in this thread. Your posts prove it.

Keep mowing rookies. About all you do understand.

Why don't you go back to bumping up 13 three year old threads. That was more productive than your argument.

[Hoots]

kootoomootoo, when are you going to add something worthy of a post to this thread? All you have done is jump up and down saying it won't work, its not the way to make money etc. I have seen small children jump up and down because they cannot open a door when all they had to do was turn the handle.

Please tell us how to turn the handle. Tell us the way to make the money then. It shouldn't be a secret. I can price shop Lowes and Home Depot, they show their retail prices to everyone. It is up to me to find my wholesale prices or cost of doing business.

It is time for you to give us advice or go find another topic to annoy. Explain the concepts or at least tell us what they are.

[TXNSLighting]

Why should homeowners give you guys loans at 5-7%. They wont.
Its an interest free loan considering the net present value with a ton of risk.
Lawn mowing guys are some of the worst risks around.

Guess you guys also do not understand the value of money or net present value.
The Homeowner is making 5% with the cash they could pay you in a bank account.....WITH ZERO RISK
....

5 OR 7% discount isnt a discount.



Please take a business course.

:hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:

[kootoomootoo]

If I am so wrong why arent you ladies pulling in $50,000 in prepaids. You ladies still don't get the argument.

Young dumb and full of

[Hoots]

Where are you coming up with $50,000 in pre-pay? Nobody said they were looking to bring that much in. Most of us are happy with a max of 5 people that pre-pay. Are you bringing that much in with pre-pay? That would be around 50 customers on average with my pricing. Most of my customers are middle class hard working people that have the money to pay me but not enough to pay in one lump sum.

Some of the reasons for the pre-pay discount that I see are:

1. Attract new customers that may be looking for something to do with their tax refund.
2. One less invoice to worry about.
3. Up front capital to start the season with if you need some new equipment.
Please yell us what is wrong with any of these.
I know you are trying to come at this from a LOAN side but I think you may be the only one.
Will the pre-pay option work for a start-up company, no. This is done by those businesses that have been around for some time.

Please tell us what the argument is since we don't understand your thought process. You take too many lessons from our Dear Leader on not answering questions.

[DLAWNS]

If I am so wrong why arent you ladies pulling in $50,000 in prepaids. You ladies still don't get the argument.

Young dumb and full of

Dude, it's really funny how all of us know nothing but apparently you know it all. I love it, there are so many guys on this site that are willing to help. Now no one take this the wrong way...I love getting advice from 99% of the veteran lawn guys on here, but there are a few that come on here with the attitude that they know it all and they're better than everyone. Either way...I'll keep checking back to be enlightened by you.:clapping:

[Tommy Boy]

Well said Bill

[DLAWNS]

Well said Bill

Thanks, Tommy Boy! Thumbs Up

[Grass Happens]

I am assuming when kootoo is saying Obama-land he is referring to the great state of Illinois, probably Chicago. Just because he says that's where he is from, don't assume he voted for the man. I have told people I am from Oba-mecca, and I can guarantee you, I did not vote for him.
I think that all the talk on 5-7% intrest rates are moot. I don't think anyone is trying to get all their customers to sign up for this program. It is to drive interest in this guys company, get people on the phone, and get a little cash flow in the first part of the season. Most people wont send a new lawn guy an $2000 check before anything is done, but it really only takes a couple to make the first part of your season go a LOT smoother...

[capnsac]

I've been missing out on a lot of action on this thread! I love people that say they gross a million a year on the INTERNET. If that's the case I gross $10,150,000.39, in a month. Some people will never learn.

In any case, it is safe to say that people use the option of a pre-payment plan, minus the one naysayer. He has yet to give us a valid reason for not using this method, he just likes to say it won't work. Until further proof of this 'it won't work' method, I will use the former tested method.

Thanks for all the positive help though, I appreciate it.

[kootoomootoo]

I've been missing out on a lot of action on this thread! I love people that say they gross a million a year on the INTERNET. If that's the case I gross $10,150,000.39, in a month. Some people will never learn.

In any case, it is safe to say that people use the option of a pre-payment plan, minus the one naysayer. He has yet to give us a valid reason for not using this method, he just likes to say it won't work. Until further proof of this 'it won't work' method, I will use the former tested method.

Thanks for all the positive help though, I appreciate it.

Its Like working with 5yo's. :hammerhead:

""He has yet to give us a valid reason for not using this method, he just likes to say it won't work.""

I pull in $50,000 in prepaids..but according to you I said it won't work.

It aint all bad...all you power washing petes end up having a liquidation sale in the for sale forum year after year.

[Hoots]

7% Big deal Might want to try at least 20% in this economy.

Unless you are using the cash as a capital inflow right now to increase productivity / business size its pointless anyways.

Why should homeowners give you guys loans at 5-7%. They wont.
Its an interest free loan considering the net present value with a ton of risk.
Lawn mowing guys are some of the worst risks around.

Guess you guys also do not understand the value of money or net present value.
The Homeowner is making 5% with the cash they could pay you in a bank account.....WITH ZERO RISK
....

5 OR 7% discount isnt a discount.



Please take a business course.

If I am so wrong why arent you ladies pulling in $50,000 in prepaids. You ladies still don't get the argument.

Young dumb and full of

Its Like working with 5yo's. :hammerhead:

""He has yet to give us a valid reason for not using this method, he just likes to say it won't work.""

I pull in $50,000 in prepaids..but according to you I said it won't work.

It aint all bad...all you power washing petes end up having a liquidation sale in the for sale forum year after year.

Kootoomootoo, everything I read in your posts is negative on this topic. You never stated that you are actually bringing in $50,000 untill your last post. One of your other posts showed how pre-payment is bad. Which is it?

You have not come out and given any useful advice on this matter, but you say pre-payment works with your $50,000 in the bank right now. You have also attempted to talk down to us by saying "ladies" and thinking that you are dealing with 5 year olds. YOU HAVE YET TO MAKE ONE VALID POINT IN THIS CONVERSATION.

I feel as if you are trolling on this topic and feel it needs to end.

Good day.

[capnsac]

Its Like working with 5yo's. :hammerhead:

""He has yet to give us a valid reason for not using this method, he just likes to say it won't work.""

I pull in $50,000 in prepaids..but according to you I said it won't work.

It aint all bad...all you power washing petes end up having a liquidation sale in the for sale forum year after year.

I see what's going on here. Now that you realize that everyone thinks this is a good idea and you don't that you want to jump on the bandwagon of the thought process that this is actually a good idea. So you take it one step further and proceed to lie about pulling in $50,000 in prepays just to make it seem like you aren't the odd one out on this conversation.

I think if you admitted you were wrong we wouldn't make fun of you for it. Just don't lie about it, it compounds your already bad stance in this conversation.

[ffemtmcd]

Koo's a lib, so he just doesn't understand "making it on your our" concepts. I actually wonder if he's a LCO at all.

[RegalLawnCare.Com]

We offer a 10% prepayment discount for lawn mowing service. For me, the reason isn't so much to attract new customers, it's for cash flow purposes. I offer the discount to both my existing customers and new customers. I invoice existing customers on January 1st. It helps me get through the 10 weeks of winter where we have little work and to cover the high beginning of season cost that occur every year. We offer a 5% discount for making bi-annual payments. Out of our 150 customers, about 25 took one of these options. Basically, the customer is giving you a loan and earning somewher in the neighborhood of 10%, but the trade off in terms of cash-flow and guranteed income is well worth it. It's a win-win situation, IMO...

[LouisianaLawnboy]

7% looks skimpy on paper. Maybe show them a dollar value like prepay for 20 services and receive 35.00 credit.

[capnsac]

7% looks skimpy on paper. Maybe show them a dollar value like prepay for 20 services and receive 35.00 credit.

Too late fella, already have the fliers printed. A smart customer (the ones I want anyway) will take the quote I give them (on each flier) and multiply it by 32 cuts, then take 7% off of that and realize it saves em about $90. If they take it great, if not, oh well. I don't like offering discounts anyways, but figured I should at least try it.

[Pitbullawns]

I just did post cards with 10% off the first mow or spring clean-up. I only sent these out to people who live in the village I live in, because I really want to grab some of that business. I also gave some of the 10% off ones to a Real Estate agent friend of my wife's who is going to pass them out to her neighbors, clients and at her office's next meeting, I am really hoping to see results from that! She is a great lady, and knows EVERYONE in this area!

[Jaon t]

One question, don't take to personal.

Do you have plans to repay the prepays if you only mow lets say 28-30 times which is the average in these parts? For example, 50 new customers at lets say $35 just for the sake of conversation, you only mow 28 times. You owe them a credit of 4 mowings X $35 = $140 each X 50 customers, that's $7k if my math is correct. Are you willing to do that at the end of the season?

My rule of thumb is you prepay for hookers and movies, that's it.

There is plenty of work out there for everyone, I wish you the best in '09.:drinkup:

JT

[capnsac]

One question, don't take to personal.

Do you have plans to repay the prepays if you only mow lets say 28-30 times which is the average in these parts? For example, 50 new customers at lets say $35 just for the sake of conversation, you only mow 28 times. You owe them a credit of 4 mowings X $35 = $140 each X 50 customers, that's $7k if my math is correct. Are you willing to do that at the end of the season?

My rule of thumb is you prepay for hookers and movies, that's it.

There is plenty of work out there for everyone, I wish you the best in '09.:drinkup:

JT

Yes, already been figured. However, I won't get that many pre-pays. Odds are I won't even get 10. It's an incentive that I am offering, and not a great one at that. Merely to cast a smoke screen thinking that I am like every other LCO in that I offer specials with some catchy advertising. When in all reality I just want their business and don't want to give them a dime in discounts. :)

[Hoots]

No, Tommy Boy made a good point in one of his posts, charge for visits not mowings. This way you still go by and pull weeds, touch up the shrubs, gather a few leaves and still make money.

[capnsac]

No, Tommy Boy made a good point in one of his posts, charge for visits not mowings. This way you still go by and pull weeds, touch up the shrubs, gather a few leaves and still make money.

I like this idea hoots, I appreciate the relay and will keep this is in mind for future reference. This is the sort of information that makes me glad that I am a member of this board. :waving:

[kootoomootoo]

I like this idea hoots, I appreciate the relay and will keep this is in mind for future reference. This is the sort of information that makes me glad that I am a member of this board. :waving:

except you ignored the information and offered 7% anyway.

the lawn boy...safest bank/risk in the world. :clapping:

[Hoots]

Koo, I saw the other day on the news that an airline is discussing a pay-per-use lavatory on the plane. (some European airline) I think they got the idea from your picture posted earlier in this thread. Maybe you should spend more time trying to seek royalties from that idea and quit looking at this thread.:confused:


By the way, your statement of investing in, "the lawn boy...safest bank/risk in the world", the only way you handle these things is with a contract or seasonal agreement. This way the home owner has something on paper in contract form to come after your business assets if you do not produce.

Still a viable form of creating some capital at the beginning of the season and attracting some new customers.

[kootoomootoo]

Koo, I saw the other day on the news that an airline is discussing a pay-per-use lavatory on the plane. (some European airline) I think they got the idea from your picture posted earlier in this thread. Maybe you should spend more time trying to seek royalties from that idea and quit looking at this thread.:confused:


By the way, your statement of investing in, "the lawn boy...safest bank/risk in the world", the only way you handle these things is with a contract or seasonal agreement. This way the home owner has something on paper in contract form to come after your business assets if you do not produce.

Still a viable form of creating some capital at the beginning of the season and attracting some new customers.

I know none of you can be considered financial whiz's but you still don't get my argument.

[DLAWNS]

I know none of you can be considered financial whiz's but you still don't get my argument.

That's probably because you make no sense whatsoever.

[kootoomootoo]

That's probably because you make no sense whatsoever.

Or because you have no sense. The world needs ditch diggers too.

[DLAWNS]

Yup, I'm a ditch digger. You're obviously such a successful businessman that your on here starting fights with everyone that will listen. If you make so much sense than why don't you try and regroup all of your replies and explain what you are talking about. Keep up the good work, know-it-all.

[weasel]

Does anyone do a discount like this? If so, what percent off do you give them?

I don't offer this, but all my accts are budget billed meaning 12 equal payments. But if you offer this discount and they move what happens, or if you go out of business or quit business, not saying anything negative just wanting to know ?

[Hoots]

I know none of you can be considered financial whiz's but you still don't get my argument.

If you are a financial whiz, then please use the english language we all can understand. If you explain yourself well enough we will understand it.

You are the only person on this thread saying this offer is no good. Myself and others have made valid points explaining our position.

You have stated that "investing in the lawn boy is no good". We are not lawn boys promoting this method of payment.

[jsf343]

Yup, I'm a ditch digger. You're obviously such a successful businessman that your on here starting fights with everyone that will listen. If you make so much sense than why don't you try and regroup all of your replies and explain what you are talking about. Keep up the good work, know-it-all.


he does that in the political forum as well.

[DLAWNS]

he does that in the political forum as well.

That's why I stay out of that forum...because I would get myself into too much trouble with people like him. :)

[capnsac]

except you ignored the information and offered 7% anyway.

the lawn boy...safest bank/risk in the world. :clapping:

Being that the information offered was after the fact that I had already sent my fliers to print. You keep making yourself look smarter and smarter! :hammerhead: