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Shane472
02-12-2009, 04:02 PM
This came up in one of my classes and I'm wondering if anyone knows at what thickness of stone would you start using tiebacks as opposed to being able to place some mortar on the back of the stone and sticking it onto a scratch coat? Obviously you can't place a thick stone like that as it would be too heavy but I'm curious as to whether or not there's a general rule for which of these methods you use.

2low4NH
02-12-2009, 08:33 PM
over 2 inch i would tie it in. i never go over 1 inch unless we go right to a 4 inch stone. aalways get anchored

Bru75
02-12-2009, 09:20 PM
Anytime you use real stone, at least that's the code here.

2low4NH
02-12-2009, 09:25 PM
no need for the real stone vaneer its just like cultured stone its all saw cut down to 3/4-1 inch thick pieces great product

Bru75
02-12-2009, 09:34 PM
Right, cultured and thin stone veneer are treated the same. What I meant by real stone is a full veneer of 4" plus thickness.

2low4NH
02-12-2009, 10:08 PM
yeah they also sell the really this stone here its under 2 inch i never run anchors in it but most runs are under 48 inch. i try and stay away from that kinda work though it will usually fail after 10 years in this climate i love running 4+ if they dont want cultured

Shane472
02-13-2009, 03:57 PM
Thanks a lot for the answers guys. I appreciate it. I have to build a stone veneer raised bed for a display for our employers night and we're using 4" thick material. Going to use ties obviously but I was just curious about what point you'd have to start using them.

Bru75
02-14-2009, 01:13 AM
Thanks a lot for the answers guys. I appreciate it. I have to build a stone veneer raised bed for a display for our employers night and we're using 4" thick material. Going to use ties obviously but I was just curious about what point you'd have to start using them.

Post some pics when you finish, I'd like to see it.

Shane472
02-14-2009, 12:51 PM
Post some pics when you finish, I'd like to see it.

Sure thing. This is my first time working with mortar so I'm really excited and luckily I'll have the program director helping me out haha. We couldn't build it too big because we have to be able to get it from the shop into the school and down into the conference room where we're having the employers night. I started out by building a frame out of 2x4's and bracing the corners. I then attached a sheet of 3/8" plywood to serve as the ledge for the stone to sit on. Next I built some stud walls just a shade under 2' tall so when the coping stone is placed on we'll reach that height. I know I didn't build the corners the way you'd really do them when building stud walls but I figured it was ok since it's nothing as big as a house. 3/8" plywood was attached as cladding and there's about a 1/2" finger space behind where the stone will sit. Once it's all finished we'll go pick out some plant material from our green houses. Sorry for the blurry pics, I just snapped them with my phone as I was leaving the shop. Will bring a camera next time.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u121/shane472/013.jpg

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2low4NH
02-15-2009, 12:21 AM
that thing is gonna be heavy as fock!

DVS Hardscaper
02-15-2009, 12:10 PM
I take it this is a vocational class?? I'd like to see your end result, please post pics when it's done!

Shane472
02-15-2009, 01:56 PM
I'm not too worried about it, though. We only have to move it a short distance on the cart and then we can just slide it off.