View Full Version : Sodium Thiosulfate rate to neutralize sodium hypochlorite?
lawncuttinfoo
02-23-2009, 03:18 PM
I cant find anywhere on the web that has a reccomended rate needed of Sodium Thiosulfate needed to neutralize Sodium Hypochlorite.
I saw one post here saying 1 drop per gallon, any other ideas? or reliable links?
treegal1
02-23-2009, 04:52 PM
0.1-0.3 grams to 10 liters of water at 2-4 PPM
but why not use vit C ..... the de chlor is no good for the herd.........
lawncuttinfoo
02-23-2009, 05:03 PM
I thought vit c (ascorbic acid) nutralized chlorimines, not sodium hypochlorite, which my water treatment center uses.
treegal1
02-23-2009, 09:38 PM
The half time of reaction between ascorbic acid and chloramine is about 4 min. ...
lawncuttinfoo
02-23-2009, 10:57 PM
The half time of reaction between ascorbic acid and chloramine is about 4 min. ...
I don't understand what that means
treegal1
02-23-2009, 11:02 PM
it means 8 minutes till brew!!!!!
lawncuttinfoo
02-24-2009, 02:30 AM
I still don't follow you, my watertreatment uses Sodium Hypochlorite not chlorimines.
So no matter how fast or slow ascorbic acid acts (not sure if you are saying 8 min is a long time or short time to wait) I can not use it.
JDUtah
02-24-2009, 02:54 AM
By chance can you get water from a secondary source? That way you don't have your problem AND you get the nutrients + microbes that are already in the water...
or is that a no-no?
treegal1
02-24-2009, 08:56 AM
I still don't follow you, my watertreatment uses Sodium Hypochlorite not chlorimines.
So no matter how fast or slow ascorbic acid acts (not sure if you are saying 8 min is a long time or short time to wait) I can not use it.why not the Sodium Hypochlorite will be broken down???
Kiril
02-24-2009, 10:08 AM
The more important question .... is the sodium hypochlorite even at a concentration that warrants attention?
lawncuttinfoo
02-24-2009, 11:51 AM
They said their goal is a 1.2ppm concentration at the point of use.
It's enough to sanitize the water we get so I am guessing there will be negative effects on the tea.
treegal1
02-24-2009, 12:02 PM
all you need is an out-gassing column, you can make your own with free stuff or just let the water aerate in the tank for a while with some vit C and molasses..............or a carbon filter.....
Kiril
02-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Personally, at that concentration I wouldn't worry about it. FYI, OM will quickly neutralize the chlorine.
DUSTYCEDAR
02-24-2009, 12:13 PM
Air it out and then test it
treegal1
02-24-2009, 12:13 PM
Personally, at that concentration I wouldn't worry about it. FYI, OM will quickly neutralize the chlorine.
I have been preaching the sacrificial casts to start a brew, some will take note..............
Prolawnservice
02-24-2009, 05:46 PM
or the humic acid from the worm leachette or any humic acid
treegal1
02-24-2009, 05:59 PM
I tried, its only chlorine any ways, air it off break it!! try and get fluoride out of the water, yes its heavy metals........
lawncuttinfoo
02-26-2009, 02:03 AM
all you need is an out-gassing column, you can make your own with free stuff or just let the water aerate in the tank for a while with some vit C and molasses..............or a carbon filter.....
All the research I have seen says that out gassing is great for chlorine and chlorimines but not sodium hypochlorite.
:confused:
treegal1
02-26-2009, 08:48 AM
All the research I have seen says that out gassing is great for chlorine and chlorimines but not sodium hypochlorite.
:confused:
o0k so thats why they only put it in pools once??? oh they add it all the time as it outgasses...............
Sodium hypochlorite should not come in contact with air, because that will cause it to disintegrate.
http://www.lenntech.com/water-disinfection/disinfectants-sodium-hypochlorite.htm
ICT Bill
02-26-2009, 09:11 AM
Kiril and Prolawn have it, it is an oxidizer so throw in some organic matter that it can work on and it will go away, any type of organic matter will do. If you use humic acid in your mix just put it in first
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