Axmen 2

[coopers]

For those that liked the show, it starts March 2 at 10pm.

[JB1]

thanks, I will be watching.

[talus]

I really likes the 1st series. Is it gonna be the same bunch of guys again?

[AL Inc]

I checked History Channels site, and I believe there are two new companies this season, and no Stump Branch or Gustafson logging. Kind of sucks, I always got a laugh from Melvin Lardy, every other word from him was a profanity.

[Junior M]

I checked History Channels site, and I believe there are two new companies this season, and no Stump Branch or Gustafson logging. Kind of sucks, I always got a laugh from Melvin Lardy, every other word from him was a profanity.
No stump branch? Dam! He was my favorite! And the old guys at Gustafson were cool to..

[Swampy]

Ha Dwayne from Pihl is still there. That guy gets me rolling.

[talus]

I liked that guy Melvin he was funny. That stinks if they won't be on the show. I kind of sick STILL of J.M. Btownings' kid pissin and moanin about everything. I wish my father had somthing like that. I love how his father cuts him no slack. If the kid sticks around he will be thankful someday.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

Man ill miss melvin he rocked

[Junior M]

I liked that guy Melvin he was funny. That stinks if they won't be on the show. I kind of sick STILL of J.M. Btownings' kid pissin and moanin about everything. I wish my father had somthing like that. I love how his father cuts him no slack. If the kid sticks around he will be thankful someday.
Yeah, he doesnt know the awesome opportunity he has, no reason to get all riled up like he does.. But I do like Jay Browning, I like his ambition to not quit and not recieve help from anyone..

[riverwalklandscaping]

what an awesome show, I love to see the guys using the 50 year old junk machines compared to the guys using brand new stuff.. reminds me of landscapers and excavators around here

[coopers]

Yeah unfortunately Melvin won't be there. He got me laughing every time he opened his mouth in his yoader. I'm glad Dwayne will be there, he was probably the second funniest of them all. I checked JM Browning's site out and that's how I found out about the new show. Melvin has a new company website finally...looks good.

[J. Peterson Grading]

Dwane was just hilarious!!!!!!!! Reminds me of the toothless old uncle that shows up to thanksgiving, Hammered!!!!! And starts telling loud stories about when "me and your dad were your age"!!!!!!!

Melvin was cool... Young fat dude, playing with the big boys..

J.

[Junior M]

Dwayne is by far my favorite, just cause he'd been around and had been taught by the old old guys.. And he dont mind telling them Pihl guys what he thinks, its so funny when he gets goin and his son is even funnier when he impersonates Dwayne..

[meets1]

Seen the 1st promo episode last nite with them all talking trash about each other. The older guy without a hand - the touch dude - he said he needs $150K / day to break even. That is $750K / week 5 days.

Thats an operation!

I'll be watchen!

[4.3mudder]

I will be watching again, maybe someone will leave their cables out or the chainsaw to get stolen again :hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:. That guy was really pissed about that.

[FYS777]

I love the show but it gets me hurting when I watch it though, Logged for 25 years, and believe me, this is the realest reality show I've seen on TV. Did everything on the show except helicopter logging, I'm glad you all like It, :weightlifter::weightlifter:

[4.3mudder]

I love the show but it gets me hurting when I watch it though, Logged for 25 years, and believe me, this is the realest reality show I've seen on TV. Did everything on the show except helicopter logging, I'm glad you all like It, :weightlifter::weightlifter:

Is it really dangerous like they say it is? Sometimes they blow that stuff out of proportion just to get attention, fox news is known for that.

[FYS777]

Is it really dangerous like they say it is? Sometimes they blow that stuff out of proportion just to get attention, fox news is known for that.

Yes and YES and YES, Nothing on that show is blown out of proportion, in fact they don't show some stuff because of OSHA! It is as they say, the guy that lost his hand, I have had that almost happen to me more then once, its been as close as ripping the glove off my hand, going through the block that the cable goes through!

[4.3mudder]

Dang, I never new it was was that bad, I have seen most of the episodes and can see where death can be upon you at any moment by either a cable whizzing right by your head or a tree rolling down the mountains. I mean the show is awesome. I would actually like to go out there and try it for a week. But, then again maybe not.

Did you enjoy doing it? ANy favorite things you really like about it?

[FYS777]

Dang, I never new it was was that bad, I have seen most of the episodes and can see where death can be upon you at any moment by either a cable whizzing right by your head or a tree rolling down the mountains. I mean the show is awesome. I would actually like to go out there and try it for a week. But, then again maybe not.

Did you enjoy doing it? ANy favorite things you really like about it?

Wow! Sometime I get --this may sound silly but I kinda get emotional, More then enjoyed it, it was who I was for half my life, Loved it, a lot of it is hard to explain, The life long friends that I have made. I Had A best friend that was falling trees in alaska, just before I went up there Got killed, His nick name was RUTHLESS, It is a hard living but I would not have change anything of what I have experienced.:):weightlifter::weightlifter:

[4.3mudder]

Wow! Sometime I get --this may sound silly but I kinda get emotional, More then enjoyed it, it was who I was for half my life, Loved it, a lot of it is hard to explain, The life long friends that I have made. I Had A best friend that was falling trees in alaska, just before I went up there Got killed, His nick name was RUTHLESS, It is a hard living but I would not have change anything of what I have experienced.:):weightlifter::weightlifter:

Wow how about that. Sounds like you were living the life that you wanted, why the change?

[FYS777]

Wow how about that. Sounds like you were living the life that you wanted, why the change?

When I left the timber indus. it was slowing done, I could have kept working but I felt lead to do something else in my life, it was a big change but a good one, in the lawn indus, I get to meet a lot of different poeple, and haveing my own business, more freedom to do other things. in logging I was getting up at 3 leaving the house at 3;30 am drive, work, drive and get home at five, mostly 6 days a week. sooner or latter one does get older, and wiser, I think.HA HA. Plus now I make make more. I have been fortunate that I have good physical health and all my parts. at 50 I think I'm doing very well. :weightlifter:

[4.3mudder]

Well, sounds like you have had a good life, and having a better one now.

I know that they have a new show out called American Logger, but it is nothing like Axmen.

[FYS777]

Well, sounds like you have had a good life, and having a better one now.

I know that they have a new show out called American Logger, but it is nothing like Axmen.

I haven't watch that one yet, but right now I'm watch the history channel about the history of logging. thank you for asking question, It is something I like to share,:clapping: the good thing about grass it grows faster then trees.

[4.3mudder]

the good thing about grass it grows faster then trees.

Ha, ain't that the truth.

For some reason, when I would watch, I thought that this something I wanted to be interested in. The thing would be to practice how to properlly cut the tree down. I would be good at operating the machinery though.

[FYS777]

The falling of trees is an art, I can't old a candle to some guys, it is a talent that takes a lot of practice, to get the tree to go right were you want it to go, the biggest tree I have fallen was 6 foot in diameter, I've top out trees at 90 feet up and 24 inches diameter at that hieght. that was the fun part, HaHa but the hardest, to limb up and top out takes about an hour, than you have to put the riggin in the tree, ( blocks and straps for the cables to run through for lift,) to get the cables higher above the ground. I guess I could go on an on, sorry

[FYS777]

American Logger is showing at 10 here, going to watch see what its like.

[kreft]

I love that show. I hope to watch another great season.

[4.3mudder]

I noticed on the history channel today they have been having repeats all day today. I can't wait till 9 tomorrow night. I have been seeing some of the previews

[Dirtman2007]

I noticed on the history channel today they have been having repeats all day today. I can't wait till 9 tomorrow night. I have been seeing some of the previews

Yeah I've been watching

[4.3mudder]

Yeah I've been watching

I was watching sum, trying to get caught back up. Listening to everyone cussing over stuff

[coopers]

I've been watching my Axmen DVD.

Here's an article I saw on my local news today: http://www.komonews.com/news/40506162.html

[FYS777]

I've been watching my Axmen DVD.

Here's an article I saw on my local news today: http://www.komonews.com/news/40506162.html

this is true! my bother, one of the bosses here, said they only have about 3 more weeks to run through what they have and that about, unless something changes.

[coopers]

I just can't believe that in 4 months he's only worked 4 weeks! It's also amazing how many people he had to lay off.

[FYS777]

I just can't believe that in 4 months he's only worked 4 weeks! It's also amazing how many people he had to lay off.

Believe it, an outfit that size easily has more guys then that, the timber market is in really bad shape!:cry:

[Junior M]

So who is watching Ax men tonight? I am pumped, I cant wait to see it..

[CAT powered]

I'll be watching.

I don't know if it's going to be as good as season 1.

They aren't going to have Gustafson or Stump Branch.

Duane Dethlefs is hilarious though.

"Haircut and a blowjob. What else could you ask for."

:laugh::laugh:

[Junior M]

I'll be watching.

I don't know if it's going to be as good as season 1.

They aren't going to have Gustafson or Stump Branch.

Duane Dethlefs is hilarious though.

"Haircut and a blowjob. What else could you ask for."

:laugh::laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:

I was watching today and they had all the owners together telling stories(it was a preview for this upcoming season) and for some reason Dwayne was the only "worker" I guess you could say there, the rest were all owners.. But some of the stories they told, man talking about making you wanna cringe.. :eek:

I'll definetly miss Stump Branch, I didnt have to much to say about Gustafson, they were a big older company, the thing I didnt like was they never showed the rigging crew, just the guys working on the landing..

[FYS777]

I'll be watching. I watched the American logger, I HOPE THAT GETS BETTER, !!! for every store they told of that kind of stuff there is probably 20 others that they could share.

[CAT powered]

Yea. I saw that one. They were talking about Browning losing his hand and one of em having his face smashed into a saw while it was running.

40 minutes or so until the new season is on.

[Junior M]

Yea. I saw that one. They were talking about Browning losing his hand and one of em having his face smashed into a saw while it was running.

40 minutes or so until the new season is on.
Yeah, I was gettin tired of hearing about his hand, but that guy that smashed his face in a running saw.. Wow, that would have to hurt..

I'd love to log with them guys, thats the only job outside of this industry that I really want to do..

[Junior M]

Finally on... I'd love to do what they do.. :cool2:

[Junior M]

I got a question, they keep saying its logging season, here they are cutting timber year around, do they have a set season there or can you only do it during a certain of year do to weather? Whats the deal?

[FYS777]

Finally on... I'd love to do what they do.. :cool2:

Hey, can I recommend a doc to check your noggin out, please stay with what your doing.:laugh:

[FYS777]

I got a question, they keep saying its logging season, here they are cutting timber year around, do they have a set season there or can you only do it during a certain of year do to weather? Whats the deal?

weather in most places, depends on what type of soils and amount of snow.

[Junior M]

Hey, can I recommend a doc to check your noggin out, please stay with what your doing.:laugh:
No, I am serious, I want to do it, I've always wanted to log... Just something I've always wanted to do, not sure why..

[CAT powered]

Hey, Junior I've got a lot of logs that need to be cut to 16" lengths.

I'll let you run my MS460 for a day. We'll see how much you want to run a saw after a day of doing that.

Did I mention it has a 32" bar?

[FYS777]

No, I am serious, I want to do it, I've always wanted to log... Just something I've always wanted to do, not sure why..

that may be the case, but grass is a better renewable resource. what type of logging do they do were your at?

[FYS777]

Hey, Junior I've got a lot of logs that need to be cut to 16" lengths.

I'll let you run my MS460 for a day. We'll see how much you want to run a saw after a day of doing that.

Did I mention it has a 32" bar?

wont be able to pick his nose or feel his fingers, :laugh:

[Junior M]

that may be the case, but grass is a better renewable resource. what type of logging do they do were your at?
Skidding is all I've ever seen, its not hilly enough for anything else, same with Ohio..

Am I seeing things or is that a guy from the Stump Branch crew working for Browning?

[Junior M]

Hey, Junior I've got a lot of logs that need to be cut to 16" lengths.

I'll let you run my MS460 for a day. We'll see how much you want to run a saw after a day of doing that.

Did I mention it has a 32" bar?
Still wanna do it, thats like a logger telling his boy, that wants to be in excavation, to dig this trench by hand and then see how much you want to do it..

[Scag48]

Hey, Junior I've got a lot of logs that need to be cut to 16" lengths.

I'll let you run my MS460 for a day. We'll see how much you want to run a saw after a day of doing that.

Did I mention it has a 32" bar?

Jr. couldn't lift a 460 and he'd be scared out of his mind once you started it. :laugh: Those 460's are sweet, the longer the bar, the better. No bending over!

I'd go logging for sure if I had nothing else to do, falling trees not so much but loading logs, shovel logging, anything like that would be sweet. I'd really like to run a processor as well.

[CAT powered]

Felling the occasional large tree is sorta therapeutic. Large being > 15 inches diameter at chest height.

If Junior wants to run a saw he's gonna learn how to start the dang thing. I sure as hell won't be startin it for him.

I wonder if he'd figure the compression release out before or after he broke his fingers.

[Junior M]

Felling the occasional large tree is sorta therapeutic. Large being > 15 inches diameter at chest height.

If Junior wants to run a saw he's gonna learn how to start the dang thing. I sure as hell won't be startin it for him.

I wonder if he'd figure the compression release out before or after he broke his fingers.
Biggest saw I ever ran was a 24in bar Stihl, cant remember the model. Was still bad ass, there isnt much call for any bigger of a saw around here because most all of the big tree's have been cut..

[FYS777]

Felling the occasional large tree is sorta therapeutic. Large being > 15 inches diameter at chest height.

If Junior wants to run a saw he's gonna learn how to start the dang thing. I sure as hell won't be startin it for him.

I wonder if he'd figure the compression release out before or after he broke his fingers.

How old of a saw do you have ?? I started in 77 and never used one with compression release.:laugh::laugh: O by the why skidder logging isn't even close to being highlead logging,

[CAT powered]

Junior you'll look like you've got Parkinsons (look it up) by the end of the day if you try runnin my 460/32" bar.

We'll start you off on the 290/18" bar and see how sore you are after a day of runnin that. Then from there we'll let you try the 460. That is. If you can start it.

[Junior M]

How old of a saw do you have ?? I started in 77 and never used one with compression release.:laugh::laugh: O by the why skidder logging isn't even close to being highlead logging,
I was wondering the same thing, I am glad you asked cause I wasnt even goin to? I've never heard of such a thing on a saw... Next time I am at the farm in Ohio I'll get some pics of some saws for yall.. They are freakin beasts! push button for oiling the bar, if I remember right they are McCulloughs..

yeah, I know, if I was goin to skidder log it'd be in Ohio, a whole lot gnarlyer(if thats a word) hills, but like I said before I doubt I'll ever get out there to log for real..

[Junior M]

Junior you'll look like you've got Parkinsons (look it up) by the end of the day if you try runnin my 460/32" bar.

We'll start you off on the 290/18" bar and see how sore you are after a day of runnin that. Then from there we'll let you try the 460. That is. If you can start it.
You really underestimate me dont you? Or are you just messing with me?

[CAT powered]

I believe it's 5 or 6 years old. It's still in production. I saw a new one at my STIHL dealership when I bought the MS290 to replace that daggum MS210C POS.

[Junior M]

I believe it's 5 or 6 years old. It's still in production. I saw a new one at my STIHL dealership when I bought the MS290 to replace that daggum MS210C POS.
:laugh: Whats wrong with a 210? Thats what we run for a little run around saw, light enough to carry around the woods, but its got some balls if its got a sharp chain.. I'll get some pics of some of the tree's we cut with the 210 when the nader hit...

[FYS777]

maybe we could put him on the in of a misery whip for 5 minutes,

[Gravel Rat]

I don't think Junior could do it he would end up cutting his leg off using a chainsaw. I can't even use my saw for a hour and I'am tired because I'am out of shape. I only have a 28 inch bar on my 046 running a full skip chain.

Forestry is pretty much dead in B.C. the one contractor hasn't done much since Nov 08. No log sales no demand for the wood. Not good.

I have watched Axmen down in the USA the money is alot tighter than it is here. It seems really borderline profit in the Pacific Northwest. The equipment is a older and done a little slower than here.

To be a choker man you have to be in good shape and able to move the yarder man sitting the swing yarder doesn't slow down. On steep ground a grapple yarder is used here a trolly line yarder system like they are using in the show is a older method.

[CAT powered]

That 210 had NO BALLS. Maybe it works out in all that soft wood you boys have got, but in the hardwoods we have it's not so good.

[Junior M]

That 210 had NO BALLS. Maybe it works out in all that soft wood you boys have got, but in the hardwoods we have it's not so good.
Might be, ya got a good point, we've cut alot of pine with it, but never had an issue cutting hardwood unless the chain was dull as he!!

And GR, you really do underestimate me, I've done a whole lot of things that people said I couldnt, and this s#it yall are talking about me not being able to do it, when you've never seen but a pic of me, makes me want to do it even more just to prove you wrong..

[FYS777]

I believe it's 5 or 6 years old. It's still in production. I saw a new one at my STIHL dealership when I bought the MS290 to replace that daggum MS210C POS.

Wow they must have brought that back for all the weenny armed boys trying to start um,:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Bleed Green]

is the ax men show the same one that was just on last hour?

[CAT powered]

Yes it is.

Tell ya what. If that compression release isn't pushed in that 460 will really yank on your hand. It hurts your arm after a while if you don't hit the CR when you pull on the cord.

[Gravel Rat]

Might be, ya got a good point, we've cut alot of pine with it, but never had an issue cutting hardwood unless the chain was dull as he!!

And GR, you really do underestimate me, I've done a whole lot of things that people said I couldnt, and this s#it yall are talking about me not being able to do it, when you've never seen but a pic of me, makes me want to do it even more just to prove you wrong..

We are just giving you a bad time Junior because you are the youngest member of the site.

Myself I starting using a chainsaw when I was 14-15 years old. Was in the firewood business for quite a few years plus I used to do brushing and thinning plus doing some falling jobs.

[nosparkplugs]

See these guys should have hired GR:rolleyes:

[FYS777]

Yes it is.

Tell ya what. If that compression release isn't pushed in that 460 will really yank on your hand. It hurts your arm after a while if you don't hit the CR when you pull on the cord.

I'll have to check one out at the stihl shop

[FYS777]

we are playing with you, my family been in the logging and lumber for three generations. :):)

[crab]

please my 044S dont have cr what are you little girls ?probely couldnt even start my old 038,ms210 whats that a little toy jr could definitly handle that,what the hell is the point of a 18 inch bar ?20 24 32 16 ok!

[CAT powered]

18" bar is for small trees. No need in breaking out a 32" saw for a 6" tree.

[FYS777]

please my 044S dont have cr what are you little girls ?probely couldnt even start my old 038,ms210 whats that a little toy jr could definitly handle that,what the hell is the point of a 18 inch bar ?20 24 32 16 ok!

can't remember the size, but it was a 32" bar on a husky that I top trees with in alaska, there was nothing shorter. that was twenty years ago.

[FYS777]

18" bar is for small trees. No need in breaking out a 32" saw for a 6" tree.

don't have to bend over with a 32,

[CAT powered]

Don't have to handle 15 pounds of saw if you don't have to. Plus the little saw is a hell of a lot easier to start.

And my 460 doesn't like to sit with the chain brake engaged and starting it constantly can get pretty annoying.

[4.3mudder]

Can anyone fill me in? I had class and no one was hope to tape or tivo it for me :cry:.

[Gravel Rat]

The 046 and 66 isn't bad if you forget to push the compression release the old 051 Stihl and its larger brother are finger rippers if you forget to press the CR. The 051 weighs 26 pounds its what I used for years. A MS660 066 only weighs 18lbs with a full wrap handle the MS460 046 weighs 15lbs.

A 051 with a 36 inch bar and 404 full skip chain you can throw lots of saw dust.

[crab]

16 will do the same and cut faster ,less time around ,I'm not saying 18 is bad but just kind of silly ,what can you do with 18 ,you cant do faster with 16? ,and at that point you should just move to 20 if you have enough saw.cat powered that's my point just more teeth to sharpen,18 inch bar is a weird thing that' makes people feel better about there saws,bar lengh is!@@#and fys777 that was not to you (welcome by the way)just a general observation,only husky i ever loved was a broke ass 285xp loved that saw!

[CAT powered]

18 was the bar they had in stock at the time. My options were either get the saw with the 18 or wait 2 weeks for the 20. I figured I'd get the 18 and be done.

I'm still not seeing your logic in a 16 cutting faster. It might cut faster if they had the same # of teeth per chain, but if the distance between teeth on the chain is the same then how would a 16 cut faster? Cutting is all about how much wood you rip out. Not how many times your chain goes around.

[CAT powered]

Sorry for the doublepost, but firefox doesn't give me an edit button.

I'm not trying to say I know everything about saws here. Far from it. I'm just not understanding the logic behind a 16" being faster than an 18" bar.

Saws are neat, but they're not how I make my living. I'll let the loggers decide what works best for certain applications just like they let me decide how to build houses, etc.

[Gravel Rat]

My MS260 has a 24 inch bar I wouldn't go any shorter than that I don't like bending over when I'am limbing or brushing. I also use the saw for small tree falling.

The old 044 used to be a real common saw it still is but the 046 became a real option for the bush it is a little lighter than a 66 but has more power than a 44.

[FYS777]

My MS260 has a 24 inch bar I wouldn't go any shorter than that I don't like bending over when I'am limbing or brushing. I also use the saw for small tree falling.

The old 044 used to be a real common saw it still is but the 046 became a real option for the bush it is a little lighter than a 66 but has more power than a 44.

How old is your 044, how old is your 046, the new saws I ran up to 2002, didn't have CR on them. I ran stihls and husky never seen one on one?

[Gravel Rat]

My 046 has to be 7 years old now I really can't remember what year I bought it but I bought it brandnew with a full wrap handle and 28 inch bar it was in the saw shop I needed a saw so on the credit card it went.

I never owned a 44 I used one quite abit but when it was time to buy a new saw the 046 Magnum was fairly new to the market I didn't want a 066 Magnum I wasn't production falling just light falling and cutting firewood.

The 046 you do need a CR especially if you have the bad habit of drop starting your saw :laugh:

Putting the handle between the legs doesn't work for me and starting the saw on the ground sucks.

[crab]

more revs per second ,clears faster.

[crab]

044 magnum will outrun the 460 any day of the week ,and gr you should appreciate the fact you can actually tune it.

[Gravel Rat]

I bought the 046 because it is a heavier built saw I wanted it for heavier bucking and falling. Stihl has discontinued the MS440.

My 046 has a full wrap handle with double log dogs its a fallers saw. Works good for what I use it for and it cuts the firewood like no tommorow and large enough to fall any tree I need to.

[P.Services]

that aqua logger guy is a fool!!! they make it look like the boat smashed into the bridge but it was fine in the rest of the show!?!?! wtf is up with that.

they make every thing into such a big deal. like the third log they sent back down the hill, that was done on purpose for the show. the newbies truck getting stuck all of its just FAKE its all a bunch of bs.

i still watch it cuz its cool though, but its all fake. i want to see the next episode when the hitachi cathes on fire!!! thats not fake!!


and i hope you change your tampon if you have to use a cr. i run a 660 about every day and never use it, it makes the starting harder. Dont drop start a saw either it will break the dogs and f up the recoil. On the ground or in the legs do it right.

[Gravel Rat]

I have been drop starting saws for 10 years all the fallers I know do it. I tried between the legs its a pain literally :laugh:

My saws usually start in couple pulls and I change the spark plug every year and only run highest octane gas with Stihl oil.

I learned how to use and operate saws from West Coast fallers these guys come from generations of tree fallers their dad was a faller and so on.

[coopers]

I'm sure it'll grow on me but it's different than last season. I saw one of the hook tenders (Eric) from Melvin's crew working with Pihl's crew. I also thought I saw Levi (from Stump Branch) with Pihl. My girlfriend and I had a good laugh at the moron who logs in our rivers here in WA. What an idiot!! I had a good laugh at the greenhorn showing up in his preppy clothes and pretty car.

It looks like a good season.

[Gravel Rat]

One thing to keep in mind things are probably over glorified and other stupid stuff to boost viewership.

I only watched one show of the orginal season it was never on when I was on my days off.

The one show I usually tried to watch is Deadliest Catch. The worst shows for over glorificating is American Chopper the show got boring after awhile the second was American Hotrod.

Probably the most boring show is Survivor the whole thing is so fake the first one was a little believable. Now you also have the little nut job Elisabeth Hasselback on the View :laugh:

[Junior M]

please my 044S dont have cr what are you little girls ?probely couldnt even start my old 038,ms210 whats that a little toy jr could definitly handle that,what the hell is the point of a 18 inch bar ?20 24 32 16 ok!

Um, hello, if you read my earlier post you'd know why we run a 210, its small enough to carry around the woods, easy to throw around cutting brush and its still got the balls to cut some serious wood..

Don't have to handle 15 pounds of saw if you don't have to. Plus the little saw is a hell of a lot easier to start.

Exactly, another reason for a small saw. Plus, Dad bought this saw years ago in Ohio to keep on the truck, so he bought a small saw that wouldnt take up much room..

[Junior M]

I'm sure it'll grow on me but it's different than last season. I saw one of the hook tenders (Eric) from Melvin's crew working with Pihl's crew. I also thought I saw Levi (from Stump Branch) with Pihl. My girlfriend and I had a good laugh at the moron who logs in our rivers here in WA. What an idiot!! I had a good laugh at the greenhorn showing up in his preppy clothes and pretty car.

It looks like a good season.
I saw one of the guys from the rigging crew of Stump Branch(the one that almost got hit by the rigging when they were throwing the chokers last season) working for Browning, it was right around the time the carriage hit the tree..

And that newbie gave me a good laugh to, showing up over an hour late cause he tried to come up the mountain in a car.. :dizzy: I kinda like that Rygaard logging company, but they are no stump branch, I'd like to know what happened to Melvin since some of his guys are working for other crews..

[FYS777]

O my, I think my computer would run out of ink trying to tell everything I saw, and didn't see, or had comment on, the crews I work with would have eat them for breakfast, and used them for chewing tobacco!!! the only crews that might come remotely close would be the browning crew! still the yarders and motorized carriage that they use isn't the fastest system either, and drop start your saw, did you see any of the fallers start it any other way, all that was put on there for is a another safety device put on the saw because the regular person wouldn't hurt there fingers, bought like the chain brakes on the saws , I bet that if they checked the fallers saws they would find that those are disconnected. they show these guys setting the turns hot. setting the chockers as the riggin comes back each time, thats slow, should be pre-setting chockers set on each side of lines, turns are going up while others are being set for they next, etc, etc, etc. the crews I worked with would have run leland, the yarder operator off the landing and out off the woods. good grief. completely incompetent for send that chocked log back like that!!!!

[FYS777]

O and the new guy driving his car up to the logging site that ain't how it works. they would have picked him up in town or some where, that was a set up, and not to tell him what he needed to start work with, hard hat, chaulk boots, gloves, and all the fat boys, made me laugh, you can tell they never get off the landings!!

[FYS777]

A faster system would be useing the Danabo MSP dropline carriage on a running skyline, more versatile and no motor in it to brake down, and with a swing yarder which is more versatile then the stationery boom yarders, O the boat loggers, I laughed so hard I started crying, I think that should go on funnest videos they could win 10k without getting wet.

[FYS777]

They might be a little blurry, :weightlifter::weightlifter:

[FYS777]

here is more. this log was 8 foot 9inches had to load it with the yarder

[Junior M]

Holy crap, 8ft 9in? :eek: ;) Hardly ever see those..

Were you saying the only way they start their saws are by dropping them, or that isnt the way they do it? ;) Got a tad bit confused..

[Gravel Rat]

You are " Not supposed to " drop start your saw but every professional saw user does it. When your running a saw with a 28 inch and longer bar you have to becarefull to know where your legs are.

Legally your supposed to start the saw on the ground but who does that :laugh:

[FYS777]

You are " Not supposed to " drop start your saw but every professional saw user does it. When your running a saw with a 28 inch and longer bar you have to becarefull to know where your legs are.

Legally your supposed to start the saw on the ground but who does that :laugh:

here is the diff, between man saw and kids saw.:laugh::laugh:

[Junior M]

Oh my jeezus! :eek: Whats the deal with the end of the bar on that big saw? I am guessing instead of having the chain gear and roller inside, its outside? ;)

And I asked Dad about the saws at the farm, he said they were McCulloughs and Homelites, couldnt remember the model numbers, but he said he thought the biggest one was a 32in bar grandpa bought for cuttin hardwoods in Ohio to use in his wordworking shop..

[Gravel Rat]

Its been a long time I seen a go home early tonight homelite :laugh:

I did get to use a brandnew MS880 Stihl when I worked at the saw shop a guy that cuts shake bolts ordered it. What a saw it had a 40 inch bar on it for cutting Western Red cedar.

On edit those old Homelites with a wornout muffler were loud the viberation from the saw would kill your arms.

[FYS777]

Oh my jeezus! :eek: Whats the deal with the end of the bar on that big saw? I am guessing instead of having the chain gear and roller inside, its outside? ;)

And I asked Dad about the saws at the farm, he said they were McCulloughs, couldnt remember the model numbers, but he said he thought the biggest one was a 32in bar grandpa bought for cuttin hardwoods in Ohio to use in his wordworking shop..

thats an older sprocket roller tip, thats an 18" compared to a 36" bar:weightlifter:

[Junior M]

thats an older sprocket roller tip, thats an 18" compared to a 36" bar:weightlifter:
Holy crap, I thought that 18in was smaller than that, I was guessing it was around the same size as my 210..

[FYS777]

Its been a long time I seen a go home early tonight homelite :laugh:

I did get to use a brandnew MS880 Stihl when I worked at the saw shop a guy that cuts shake bolts ordered it. What a saw it had a 40 inch bar on it for cutting Western Red cedar.

On edit those old Homelites with a wornout muffler were loud the viberation from the saw would kill your arms.

Ya I've heard that expression. tell me about the nose and fib, don't use it anymore.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

i bet times r real tough out there

[FYS777]

Its been a long time I seen a go home early tonight homelite :laugh:

I did get to use a brandnew MS880 Stihl when I worked at the saw shop a guy that cuts shake bolts ordered it. What a saw it had a 40 inch bar on it for cutting Western Red cedar.

On edit those old Homelites with a wornout muffler were loud the viberation from the saw would kill your arms.

Back when I was chaseing I used an 090 stihl with a 32" bar that was my main saw I used all day limbing and bucking on the landings, around 28 tears ago.:weightlifter:

[FYS777]

i bet times r real tough out there

For the loggers and people in lumber, yes. Well I am going to go look at a job, I'll be back in couple hours, looking at a KOA camp ground, for bid.:clapping::clapping:

[Junior M]

goin to pull some tree's with the fourwheeler, if I can get a game plan, yall will have some vid, might end up just doin it the old fashion way by hand.. :weightlifter:

[DUSTYCEDAR]

^^^^ he said doing it by hand lol

[CAT powered]

Another reason to use a 16" or 18" saw instead of the 32.

Most trees I cut are on the old dairy farm I own. There are staples and wire hidden inside the trees. Sharpening a chain for a 32" saw takes a lot longer than a 16 or 18 does.

[crab]

cool pictures,and that aqua guy is a buffoon

[skidster32]

i tell ya what, that aqua guy is a huge tool! if i was working with him and he yelled at me like that i would just give him a little push off the boat!:usflag::drinkup:

[4.3mudder]

here is the diff, between man saw and kids saw.:laugh::laugh:

That chain on the eager beaver looks a bit too loose..... Thate homelite is huge! My grandfather has I think a 25 year old one, The homelite EZ, not real big.

I remeber we were going to cut some oak at a guys house and he called me over there to help. Well, he had his "not so trusty" homelite to use. I had at the time a MS290 with the 28 inch bar. there was not a whole lot of wood to cut. Well, we both grab our saws out, and I started cutting after a couple of pulls, well, I turn around and see him by the truck, with the saw on the tailgate and the pull cord in his hand :laugh::laugh::laugh:. I started laughing yelling "what a rag". So I got done cutting, he finally got the pull cord back in and wrapped around :hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:. I told him, just like they say in those V8 commcerial :shoulda had a V8" Well, I told him, "you shoulda bought a Stihl!"

[FYS777]

That chain on the eager beaver looks a bit too loose..... Thate homelite is huge! My grandfather has I think a 25 year old one, The homelite EZ, not real big.

I remeber we were going to cut some oak at a guys house and he called me over there to help. Well, he had his "not so trusty" homelite to use. I had at the time a MS290 with the 28 inch bar. there was not a whole lot of wood to cut. Well, we both grab our saws out, and I started cutting after a couple of pulls, well, I turn around and see him by the truck, with the saw on the tailgate and the pull cord in his hand :laugh::laugh::laugh:. I started laughing yelling "what a rag". So I got done cutting, he finally got the pull cord back in and wrapped around :hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:. I told him, just like they say in those V8 commcerial :shoulda had a V8" Well, I told him, "you shoulda bought a Stihl!"
Ya I do agree about the homelite, and the way they run, only paid 150 bucks for it 3 years ago. it paid for itself before it died last year, ya the chain is loose on the little mac, I have another 20" saw , any more I try not to use saws much, that said I'll probably be taking out three dead trees at the KOA, camp. 20" dia.

[Gravel Rat]

The best selling Homelite was the little XL-12 they were the bluish color saws.


http://www.sarka.fi/userimages/KEhomelitew.jpg

[meets1]

Homelites - I hated them but easy to work on - cuz that is all we did. Now we're runnen all jonsreed or husky saws. No big timber for me but we do a fair amount of cutting and wood splitting. I am mainly cutting ash, maple, elm, some cedar, some oak.

Watching axmen vs american logger - I like axmen but there a season ahead so easier to watch. I like JM Browning. The diver dude - personally he is going to die - can't even get out of the water or asking to take his mask off.

[skidster32]

i like the heli-loggers show on TLC, those guys seem to be pretty legit...i think its TLC.

[CAT powered]

Why Melvin doesn't want to be on season 2:

http://www.compliancehome.com/resources/OSHA/Articles/abstract14389.html

[FYS777]

Why Melvin doesn't want to be on season 2:

http://www.compliancehome.com/resources/OSHA/Articles/abstract14389.html

That was good, ya I was wondering if OSHA would be watching, even when they took off there hard hats is a violation, unless there in the pick up or in a machine, they may have written up tickets for the things they seen on tv because it was on film.:cry:

[Gravel Rat]

You haven't seen the rule book for forestry here in B.C. . The WCB regs is enough to make your head spin. The extra regulations are costing forestry companies thousands of dollars.

[coopers]

That's too bad about that. But I don't blame him...stay low and out of site. You know they're watching now.

[FYS777]

You haven't seen the rule book for forestry here in B.C. . The WCB regs is enough to make your head spin. The extra regulations are costing forestry companies thousands of dollars.

I think why they got down on stump branch for was casting the chockers down the hill blind, when he couldn't see the guys down the hill, that was complete stupidity!!

[Junior M]

I think why they got down on stump branch for was casting the chockers down the hill blind, when he couldn't see the guys down the hill, that was complete stupidity!!
Yeah, and landed about 3ft from the guy.. It was stupid enough to begin with, then to have it put on national television...

[FYS777]

Yeah, and landed about 3ft from the guy.. It was stupid enough to begin with, then to have it put on national television...

Ya, and I agree with Phil 4: 13:weightlifter:

[Junior M]

Ya, and I agree with Phil 4: 13:weightlifter:
As do I.. I know you got some experience with falling and topping trees, I am uploading some pics right now if you could help me out here in a few minutes..

[Junior M]

As do I.. I know you got some experience with falling and topping trees, I am uploading some pics right now if you could help me out here in a few minutes..
forgot to mention I was goin to post pics my "Its started already.." thread.. :hammerhead:

[Bleed Green]

Some interested drama has developed now on AxMen. Wonder how they will deal with a man quitting?

[CAT powered]

I believe that's just TV drama...

Just like this fire they've been talking about since episode 1 that they've yet to show.

And those aqua logger guys are absolute jokes.

[Bleed Green]

ya even though they say they are getting those huge sums for logs they bring in. How can they make it still? That is my least favorite part of this season.

[talus]

The aqua loggers could make some $. I don't know if it's just for tv but it seems there would be better equipment for what he is trying to do. Or atleast have what he needs on the boat....like gas:hammerhead:Or reliable equipment.:dizzy:. I think I could have bben more efficient by myself with a pwc.

[4.3mudder]

I still like that new guy on the Ryarrd, or whatever the name is. Uh, did you bring your hard hat, oh no, do you have an extra one. I like that shirt he was wearing too, gosh, what a city boy. LOL this the very first episode of the new season.

[Bleed Green]

Think he is going to make it much longer though Mudder? He seems to be breaking down.

[4.3mudder]

Think he is going to make it much longer though Mudder? He seems to be breaking down.

LOL, I was being sarcastic. I was not able to watch the episode tonight so I will have to watch it sunday.

First, he came to work hour and a half late big :nono::nono:, plus, he is not even wearing the proper atire :nono::nono:. So, no, he will not last long. I wonder how Jesse is going to hold up, he get real pissed last year, so, we will find out.

I would still like Ol Lardy to come back :laugh::laugh:

[meets1]

Browning and the electronic chokers - great idea after they figure out how to run em. Although at $30K, I wonder where he justifies the $$$ bieng spent to offset labor or increase effeciency.

[Junior M]

I cant believe I missed it last night! :realmad:

[kreft]

That aqua loggers need to screw there heads on strait or something.

[4.3mudder]

That aqua loggers need to screw there heads on strait or something.

I like the way they operate, first the engine doesn't run. Well, lets just pull it with another boat, and get caught on the post in the water :hammerhead::hammerhead:. Then, lets go undernieth the bridg and hit the cab on the boat :hammerhead::hammerhead:. idiots

[oakhillslandscaping]

those aqua loggers make me wonder if there is a lead paint problem in that side of the country :hammerhead: its actually frustrating to watch that guy yells for nothing

[FYS777]

I am really getting disappointed at the show now, being in the logging idust, for 25 years the only outfit that comes close is the browning outfit, and they are running updated equipment, the boat guy is a disgrace to even be called a logger!! the yarder operator Leland shouldn't even be on a machine, and Inever seen such cry babies in logging, good grief,

[ksss]

I am really getting disappointed at the show now, being in the logging idust, for 25 years the only outfit that comes close is the browning outfit, and they are running updated equipment, the boat guy is a disgrace to even be called a logger!! the yarder operator Leland shouldn't even be on a machine, and Inever seen such cry babies in logging, good grief,


Its a good thing the aqua logger gets 10K per log.


What a nightmare of an operation. That old guy who was in SCUBA should not be. The guy running the operation needs his teeth knocked down his throat.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

what fun to be a boss

[coopers]

those aqua loggers make me wonder if there is a lead paint problem in that side of the country :hammerhead: its actually frustrating to watch that guy yells for nothing

Not so much that but more inbreeding than anything I'd say. :dizzy:

[coopers]

What I don't like is they jump between the companies too much. First season they would keep with the crew for 5 min or longer then switch to see what Browning was doing or whatever. Now it's seems they have too much going on and you get a second of what Browning is doing, a second of what Pihl is doing and so on. It moves so fast I can't keep up with what people are saying or what's going on. I hate it. They need to slow it down a bit.

[FYS777]

Its a good thing the aqua logger gets 10K per log.


What a nightmare of an operation. That old guy who was in SCUBA should not be. The guy running the operation needs his teeth knocked down his throat.

I have a hard time believing hes getting that much, if he was I think he would have a little better setup then what he has, and there would be every body and there brother getting those logs out of the water. my gosh I've heard of this long time ago, so he isn't the first one, sense a lot off mills don't use there log ponds anymore, they have all ready have done aqua logging in there own ponds, getting the sinkers up from the bottom.

[skidster32]

"my dad has an 8th grade education, and hes smarter than I am.".....lmao funniest quote I have herd yet.:hammerhead:

[4.3mudder]

I have a hard time believing hes getting that much, if he was I think he would have a little better setup then what he has, and there would be every body and there brother getting those logs out of the water. my gosh I've heard of this long time ago, so he isn't the first one, sense a lot off mills don't use there log ponds anymore, they have all ready have done aqua logging in there own ponds, getting the sinkers up from the bottom.

Maybe he doesn't make enough and find enough sinkers and dead heads to justify having equipment to handle the job of getting them. Just a though

[kreft]

well atleast he's tryin... lol

[Swampy]

I have a hard time believing hes getting that much, if he was I think he would have a little better setup then what he has, and there would be every body and there brother getting those logs out of the water. my gosh I've heard of this long time ago, so he isn't the first one, sense a lot off mills don't use there log ponds anymore, they have all ready have done aqua logging in there own ponds, getting the sinkers up from the bottom.

They used to do a lot of Aqua logging here on the Great Lakes, History channel did a spot on it as well but if I remember those where all virgin growth timber. Thats something they should have done a show about, as the great lakes get pretty rough at times. But the equipment they showed was a lot bigger, and appeared more safe than what that guy is using. If that rope snaped under tension, OSHA would be all over that stank.

[meets1]

the water logger dude - it is a disgrace to the show. Sure something new and entertaining but the dude yells and cuz' way to much about nothing and then pleads to the camera crew to get him gas. The show does move fast - from one outfit to the other without really getting into each crews area or involvment. But none-the-less I enjoy watching the boys cut wood!

[Dan85]

Whoops, more troubles for the aqua logger:

http://tv.yahoo.com/ax-men/show/42759/news/urn:newsml:tv.ap.org:20090314:ax_men_search_warrant__ER:16972

- Dan

[kreft]

fyi, tonight at ten......

[Junior M]

fyi, tonight at ten......
Thanks for tellin me, I forgot it last week.. :wall

[kreft]

np, you didn't miss much.

[Junior M]

np, you didn't miss much.
Still wouldnt mind watching it, it'll keep me in the loop.. So I can come on here and bitc# about them.. :laugh:

[Dountman]

Guess there's a reason why he's the only one up there to do it.

[Junior M]

Ok, why isnt it on tonight? Or am I missing something?

[CAT powered]

I was wondering the same thing so I went and looked at the website. Nothing.

Although I'd encourage you guys to watch this:
http://www.history.com/video.do?name=axmen&bcpid=1452197366&bclid=1431919014&bctid=14858929001

Skip to the end.
Did you watch it? Good.


So do you think the producers made him smear dirt all over his face or did he do that on his own? He looks like a complete ******bag with his face covered like that. You can see the finger marks in it still.

[Bleed Green]

I was wondering if it was on or not tonight. I found something on history.com that said it was on Thursday night. 4/9/09 8pm est

[Junior M]

that guy is an idiot anyways..

[CAT powered]

Thanks for the info, Bleed Green.

[Junior M]

I was wondering if it was on or not tonight. I found something on history.com that said it was on Thursday night. 4/9/09 8pm est
Nice, thanks..

[Bleed Green]

http://www.history.com/content/axmen/episode-guide

This should clear things up. I think their calendar is a little off now that I look at it again.

[Bleed Green]

The 9th is next Tuesday. So i guess that is when it is on not this thursday

[Bleed Green]

never mind that was my calendar haha. Just use the link and dont listen to me. LOL

[coopers]

I noticed JM Browning has been gone in the last few episodes...any reason?

[AI Inc]

Ever see American Logger? Its the east coast version , takes place in Northern Maine.

[CAT powered]

Coopers it's probably because they didn't have any footage of Jessee losing his temper.

I know he shouldn't be losing his temper the way he does, but it's pretty despicable of the editors to only show him when he loses his temper.

[Junior M]

I noticed JM Browning has been gone in the last few episodes...any reason?
I've noticed they've cut out at least one company per episode, I wish they'd cut out that heli-logging company for the rest of the episodes, thats the most boring logging, ever.

[CAT powered]

I wish they'd get rid of those "Aqua-Logger" morons.

[Junior M]

I wish they'd get rid of those "Aqua-Logger" morons.
Yep and bring back Stump Branch, I could careless about Gustafson, they were to much drama and everything they showed was up on the logdeck.. Need some more Dwayne on camera.. :laugh:

[CAT powered]

I think it was Melvin's choice to be off that show. OSHA was all over them.

Plus you see 3/4 of Melvin's guys working for other people now.

[Bleed Green]

O and the new guy driving his car up to the logging site that ain't how it works. they would have picked him up in town or some where, that was a set up, and not to tell him what he needed to start work with, hard hat, chaulk boots, gloves, and all the fat boys, made me laugh, you can tell they never get off the landings!!

They did tell him what he needed to start with didn't they? Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying.

[Bleed Green]

I think it was Melvin's choice to be off that show. OSHA was all over them.

Plus you see 3/4 of Melvin's guys working for other people now.

Melvin is working with another crew now, isn't he with Pihl?

[FYS777]

They did tell him what he needed to start with didn't they? Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying.

the outfits i ran and worked for would have for sure, it was a set up for show.

[FYS777]

Melvin is working with another crew now, isn't he with Pihl?

yes .......

[Scaping 4 Life]

Melvin looks as if he will be needing a body bag.

[zak406]

IMO if it was not for aqua logging i would not watch the show. If i had a dime for every time i roled on the floor laughing because of them i would be rich*trucewhiteflag**trucewhiteflag*

[FYS777]

IMO if it was not for aqua logging i would not watch the show. If i had a dime for every time i roled on the floor laughing because of them i would be rich*trucewhiteflag**trucewhiteflag*

agreeeed:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Junior M]

IMO if it was not for aqua logging i would not watch the show. If i had a dime for every time i roled on the floor laughing because of them i would be rich*trucewhiteflag**trucewhiteflag*
I'd leave the room when he came on.. I cant stand that guy..

Did yall see the original aqua loggers are teaming up with the guy in the swamp?

[Bleed Green]

The guy and his kid annoy the heck out of me cause they bicker and argue all the time. There can't be that many problems between them and if there are then they need to be doing something else or split up and work for different outfits. I would say there is some added drama there, but thats just me.