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sbvfd592

03-10-2002, 07:47 PM

Do any of you have women on your mowing crews of any women on this site that do it themselves I have worked for a woman once and my friend summer is my book keeper now but that's it IM just wondering if any of you have this theer good wookers and summer is good when she has worked blowing some of the driveways with me

kutnkru

03-10-2002, 07:58 PM

Ya ,,, wanna try that again in English??? :laugh:

stslawncare

03-10-2002, 08:01 PM

there are a few women on this site including jodi and lanelle, jodi works with her husband and lanelle does landscape architecture and such.

rodfather

03-10-2002, 08:10 PM

Can you run that by us again? I'm not exactly sure what you're asking...

heygrassman

03-10-2002, 08:26 PM

awm

03-10-2002, 09:14 PM

judging from what i see on other crews,women make up a fair percentage of the lawn care workforce.
seems to me that more often than not they hold key positions.
of course some own their own buisiness.

gogetter

03-10-2002, 09:49 PM

This is a period .
The period is a good thing. Don't be afraid of it. It's your friend.;)

PAPS

03-10-2002, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by sbvfd592
summer is good when she has worked blowing some of the driveways with me

Guy... that don't sound too good...:rolleyes:

65hoss

03-11-2002, 03:17 AM

which is said to what you did with blowing and the girl that they work with in industry they good workers in summer with lawncare and good looking to add to it mowing crews attention they get lot of it with white t-shirts and themselves working you get bookkeeper or you bookkeeper for women to work good in summer

Whatcha think?

LAWNGODFATHER

03-11-2002, 03:42 AM

Do any of you have women on your mowing crews? Are there any women on this site that own an LCO? I have worked for a woman once. My friend Summer is now my book keeper, but that's it. I'm just wondering if any of you have any women woring for you? They are good workers, and Summer is good when she has worked with us blowing some of the driveways off with me.

Edited by LGF. How did I do?

Yes the Mrs. will work better than almost all my employees and run them into the ground.

There are a few threads on this in the arcives.

Mowergirl

03-11-2002, 07:24 AM

Thanks for the editing. Now that I can understand it I feel strangely compelled to reply.

Yes, I do have women in my crew. Namely me, but I also would not hesitate to hire another qualified "gal" if one applied. Sorry guys, but I really feel that we take a little more time double checking properties to be sure things look good; and we're more likely to see areas that need to be cleanup up then yous do. I bought this company from another woman & her and I worked together mowing for 1-1/2 years. All of our customers were extremely happy (with our work... no we didnt wear bikini tops or anything!).

The hardest part for me now on the crew is the heavy work. I'm not real big or strong, so I do rely on one of the guys to mucsle the equipement off the trailer, or to mow the slopes with the walkbehind. Hate depending on the crews for that, but short of becoming more muscular,wich i dont want, what can a girl do?

MOW ED

03-11-2002, 08:39 AM

Tammie,
Thats good to hear. I have my wife working with me and I also have 3 daughters. The 2 older ones 12 and 11 have helped me with mulch jobs in the past and my little one 6 is interested also.
I think when they start working I will have to call it Harem Lawncare and dress everyone in pink.:D

BTW check your last line in your signature, I think you meant o instead of c.

Lawn-Scapes

03-11-2002, 08:59 AM

what can a girl do?
Besides be a good housewife and mother? Nothing ;) I'm just kidding!

Sorry guys, but I really feel that we take a little more time double checking properties to be sure things look good; and we're more likely to see areas that need to be cleanup up then yous do.
Sorry sista, but I really feel that this statement is false. I think that "yous" take a little more time 'cause "yous" may be a little slower.. is all :)

On a serious note.. I worked with a woman once in this biz. She was very fast and good with a line trimmer. The only problem was that she was nice looking and was a distraction. She was the boss's girlfriend. I had to quit before I got myself in trouble :D

walker-talker

03-11-2002, 09:57 AM

65 Hoss...........that was too funny.......lol

MATT

thfireman

03-11-2002, 10:27 AM

I once knew an all Woman lawn service in Ga. that had 4 women that ran everything. Most of them were stronger than me and a couple had deeper voices than me too! Anyway they all broke up (The Company I mean) and went there separate ways. I also remember one day that one of them was doing something to her mower and she stuck her hand under the deck while the blades where engaged. BRAIN FART!!! Also a good point to keep the safety cut offs in operation. She had surgery and now the is able to use her hand! I just want to go on the record saying that I know this woman till this day. She is a very nice person and I hated to hear she had gotten hurt. Im sure others have been seriously injuried like this also.

Just a note. TURN YOUR DARNED MOWERS OFF BEFORE STICKING YOUR HAND UNDER IT!!!

odin

03-11-2002, 10:35 AM

Two of my sister in law's have helped us mow when we first started .My niece helps out sometimes she's a knockout but that aint no problem the crew is her father and uncles.
My wife answer's the phone and keeps books and another sister in law is a cpa and takes care of all the tax matters.

parkwest

03-11-2002, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Mowergirl
Sorry guys, but I really feel that we take a little more time double checking properties to be sure things look good; and we're more likely to see areas that need to be cleanup up then yous do.

WOW, is this a new record? Second post and she slams 99.9995% of the registered guest on here.

Beat that Mr. Stone.

LAWNGODFATHER

03-11-2002, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by parkwest

WOW, is this a new record? Second post and she slams 99.9995% of the registered guest on here.

Beat that Mr. Stone.
quote:
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Originally posted by Mowergirl
Sorry guys, but I really feel that we take a little more time double checking properties to be sure things look good; and we're more likely to see areas that need to be cleanup up then yous do.
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Not!!! I don't think so!!! Women have a maticulas nature to clean, not to landscape. Landscaping is an aquired ART not a sexas act.

parkwest

03-11-2002, 01:00 PM

Boy LGF, thats not very politically correct for you to make such a general statement. In fact, that is a very sexist remark. :-)

sexist: someone who believes there is a difference between the sexes. webster dictionary

Mowergirl

03-11-2002, 01:02 PM

My apologies everyone, if my 1st post came across as slam. It was not intended. The last thing I would want to do is offend "yous". I've learned more from from this site & all of your expertise in the last few weeks about the industry then I could ever have imagined. Many thanks for this!

My point simply was that between myself & the other girls I've worked with, it seemed we were more likely to notice the paper on the other side of the lawn then the guys would. Maybe it is our cleaning nature. On the other hand, most of us girls are not as strong as the guys. So there are pluses and minuses.

Hows that for backtracking?

LAWNGODFATHER

03-11-2002, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by parkwest
Boy LGF, thats not very politically correct for you to make such a general statement. In fact, that is a very sexist remark. :-)

It's true. Lawn care and landscaping is an aquried art. I know guys who can't do it.

Atleast the women I have to work for should stick to cleaning not landscaping, they wouldn't know a blade of grass from a bush.

That's better Mowergirl.

Lawn-Scapes

03-11-2002, 01:17 PM

Not very good...

it seemed we were more likely to notice the paper on the other side of the lawn then the guys would.

We notice.. we just don't waste time picking it up. The wind will get it.. hopefully :p :D

LAWNGODFATHER

03-11-2002, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by TSG
We notice.. we just don't waste time picking it up. The wind will get it.. hopefully :p :D

Do I hear, best line of the month. LMAO I like that one Tom.

parkwest

03-11-2002, 01:21 PM

Thats funny Tom. I couldn't have said it better.

Commander

03-11-2002, 03:01 PM

I have had women working for me in the past, and would hire a woman again in a heartbeat. Women will work harder and better than men at least 75% of the time, while still paying better attention to detail than a man would. I have had men work for me (under the women) who would not come back the next day due to the fact that the women were so hard on them.

thfireman

03-11-2002, 03:50 PM

Put me under her and I will work all day!!! :D

rdln

03-11-2002, 04:06 PM

I remember an outfit in Shelby twp. Mich called Cheryl-Ann...this is a very cutthroat type area and they DID wear halter tops and such to get the biz. And did everything themselves i.e.; loading unloading equip maint so on.

65hoss

03-11-2002, 04:13 PM

Would I hire a woman? Yes

Would I let her wear a halter top? No

Would I hire a LCO that wore halter tops? Heck yes.

LAWNGODFATHER

03-11-2002, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by 65hoss
Would I hire a woman? Yes

Would I let her wear a halter top? No

Would I hire a LCO that wore halter tops? Heck yes.

Let's just hope YOU don't wear a halter top Hoss!!!!:D
thfireman; Put me under her and I will work all day!!!

From what I heard about his women workers, you might get crushed under them.

65hoss

03-11-2002, 06:08 PM

No I don't wear them. :) But I'm pretty good at taking them off with my mind. :D

LAWNGODFATHER

03-11-2002, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by 65hoss
I'm pretty good at taking them off with my mind. :D I would like to see that.:D Wish it worked.

Heavenly Green

03-12-2002, 01:51 AM

I met two twin sisters last season who have thers own LCO and these gals laid some awsome stripes. Both blondies and both wearing bikini tops while they cut on there D.C. If I wasnt already married I think I would have proposed to both of them
they looked like the bouble mint gum twins we saw them every Friday. Theyve got bigger mowers than me. Nothing turns me on more than a couple of smokin hotties on mowers LOL.

Steve@Heavenly Greenscapes llc:angel: :blob2:

thfireman

03-12-2002, 08:42 AM

I met two twin sisters 2+2= ?

Does that mean there were four blond chewing gum girls or is my math off?

:angel:

Heavenly Green

03-12-2002, 11:05 AM

that was just a typo. I guess I was just typing with the wrong brain. Thanks for making me feel stupid. DOGH!!!:D

bobbygedd

03-12-2002, 01:51 PM

OR, did u let the blonde girls do the math???my wife and i have an agreement: i wont try to give birth, and she wont try to do heavy physical labor. unfortunately this line of work is very physically demanding, i cant imagine having to load and unload the equipment or lift a barrel of grass for someone who im paying to do this work. i actually was gonna open an all female lawn service, the girls would be required to cut in bathing suit tops and white shorts, i was gonna call it "weed wacking women". but, after more serious consideration, i decided that ralph cramden had a few ideas more likely to succeed. like maybe the "no cal pizza idea"? we all have our place.

keifer

03-12-2002, 02:05 PM

Yes all my crews are women and they only work in swimsuits with my logo on the rear. no wait that is in my dreams.

lawnbaby

03-12-2002, 08:13 PM

TSG
That sounds like a personal problem, not the womans fault, that you had to quit because cute and it distracted you!

I am a woman and I run my own lawn care company and I dont even have a low voice. Im actually a phone operator at a huge business in the winter. I love running my lawn care company and I wouldnt think of doing anything else! I also like to think of myself as a good lawn care person, never had any complaints. I may not quite be as fast on the weedeating (but not much slower) as the guys are but thats why I make them do it!!! Benefits of owning your own company!!

Heavenly Green

03-12-2002, 10:34 PM

TO: thefireman,
Maybe if you were looking were I was you too would have seen two twin siters UU UU:D

Lawn-Scapes

03-12-2002, 11:22 PM

TSG
That sounds like a personal problem, not the womans fault, that you had to quit because cute and it distracted you!

Yeah.. it sucks being attracted to nice looking woman. :rolleyes:

smalltime

03-12-2002, 11:54 PM

This is a funny thread.

Hey Parkwest! According to the definition of Sexist that you posted, I am such. I think there is a difference between men and women and I thank God for it. ;)

Now about the twins. I always wanted twins. I think every man dreams of them. Just my rotten luck, I got my wish. They turned three in October...:D

I am a pretty lucky guy really, I just dread the thought of what it will be like when they start wanting to date. I think when the first one asks me, I will ask her, "Are you married yet?". When she replies no I will say, "Then you can't go out on a date." Was that as funny as I wanted it to be? I won't quit my day job, oh wait, I don't have a day job.

Anyone hiring in Central Indiana? Eleven years of computer programming and I am eager to begin again?

Steve

thfireman

03-13-2002, 09:01 AM

Point taken!! I should have noticed the puppy math you were using!! I like your math better! LOL :angel:
Roger

lawrence stone

03-13-2002, 09:29 AM

I lawrence stone am a proponent of women’s liberation.

In fact I am a big fan of the women's movement especially when they are walking in front of me.

65hoss

03-13-2002, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by lawrence stone
I lawrence stone am a proponent of women?s liberation.

In fact I am a big fan of the women's movement especially when they are walking in front of me.

AMEN!

parkwest

03-13-2002, 11:27 AM

I heard men being called sexist, so I looked up the definition just to be sure. I've come to the conclusion, you're either a sexist or insane.

LAWNGODFATHER

03-13-2002, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by lawrence stone
I lawrence stone am a proponent of women’s liberation.

In fact I am a big fan of the women's movement especially when they are walking in front of me.

What else is there to add?

Heavenly Green

03-14-2002, 01:24 AM

L.G.F. Stone was abviously trying to say he like to look at there dookie makers. Butt hay who doesnt. I wouldnt be supprised if some of these chick whove been posting on this thread discontinue there membership to lawn site. As were all A bunch of sexist pigs I love it.
I was once told by another LCO at a gas station that women were his best workers except for when it was that time of the month. I wouldnt let my wife anywhere near power equipment during that time of the month. I would hire a woman but dont think wify would approve of me spending all day with another woman. Unless she was butt ugly. A butter woman. Everything looks good butter face.:alien:

LAWNGODFATHER

03-14-2002, 01:29 AM

Heavenly Green; ROTFLMAO!!!!!

That's too funny:blob1:

I know the Mrs. wont let me work with a female, but I have hired a few in the past before I met the Mrs.

That 28 day visiting friend is a pain in the buttox.

Hobart

03-14-2002, 02:03 AM

How old are you?

Try here
http://www.coolteenchat.com/

Heavenly Green

03-14-2002, 02:17 AM

Hey Ive had too much stress this week at the bidding tables forgive me for trying to have some fun with this thread. Do we have to be professional bizz men all the time? By the way Ill be 24 on the 28th this month. and Ive been married 4yrs geez I knew somone was going to piss on my fun:p Oh ya Ive only slept 11hrs in the past 72 busy typing up proposals and what not.
Steve@Heavenly Greenscapes LLC

LAWNGODFATHER

03-14-2002, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by Hobart
How old are you?

Try here
http://www.coolteenchat.com/

If that's where we can find you, be can be sure you wont see us there.

lawnbaby

03-17-2002, 12:03 PM

I think this is a really funny thread! We get use to working around the guys and usually keep up with the best of the smart comments. Ive come to expect a certain amount of heckeling and joking. We dont sit around and talk about guy stuff so to break the ice and start some conversation we usually make fun of eachother!! Example...I tell them that if they had a womans eye they wont miss a certain spot while weedeating. They tell me that one of these days a car is going to wreck while driving by and staring at me on my mower and then they will take me to court and make me pay for them wrecking their car!! Its all in fun and keps things from being really boring!

jaybird24

03-17-2002, 01:49 PM

Ive had both male and female employees and not a whole lot of difference. It's all in their attitude and ambition - if someone wants to do a good job be it male or female they will. With riders and sulkys nowadays it evens up the strength needed so that is not really an issue. Train your employees properly the first time and enjoy having productive workers.

Brickman

05-25-2002, 08:22 AM

Yes I would hire a gal to work for me. All the better if she is good looking. And if she is good looking she had better be single. Cause she might not be for long. :D

There are two very cute chicks around here doing lawn care.
I call them "Chick filet" lawn care. From what I have seen they stay busy mowing.

ADMowing

05-25-2002, 08:39 AM

A & D Mowing (Alex & Debbie)
We share all the load. If we both didn't work as hard as the other, we wouldn't be here. We've got lots of customers and its just the two of us.

Big G

05-25-2002, 09:44 AM

C & G Lawn Service (Carollee & Greg)

Ditto what AD Mowing said. (except the part about having alot of customers, WE NEED MORE!)

:)

TFL

05-25-2002, 01:48 PM

i employ one she takes care of flower beds and plants for me

EHesseyLawns

05-25-2002, 09:46 PM

I am a one woman business. i help another guy cut some of the time. I love my job and i wouldn't trade it for the world. Where i live is one of the most competitive commercial businesses in the states and it only makes me work harder. Yes, it is a male dominated business, but the women can hack it just like the men. i have hired guys that cant cut worth **** (really, how hard is it to drive a straight line, ive even had one guy drill a car with a walk behind). All the people in my crew are males and i put myself right up there wtih them, i have a hard time asking for help from them. The women are on the rise in the business. I'm glad to see more women out there everyday

Elizabeth Hessey

Jimbo

05-25-2002, 11:31 PM

LOOK HOW MANY READ THIS POST BECAUSE IT STARTED WITH "GALS"!!!!!

THIS CONFIRMS WHAT WE ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT WHILE CUTTING GRASS ALL DAY!

1. How can I speed up this job.
2. Gals.
3. What equipment should I buy next.
4. Gals.
5. How much will I make this year if I can get just a few more accounts.
6. Gals.
7. When will I be able to afford that Corvette.
8. Wonder how many Gals I can pick up in my Corvette?

LOL, LOL, LOL:blush:

GreenQuest Lawn

05-25-2002, 11:43 PM

I have a gal that works part time with me. She does all the weeding, most of the trimming, and edging. She is also a licenced applicator. She has worked Lawn care for about 4 years now. She is a hard worker and I am glad to have her. I have worked with many women in the last 11 years and most of them have been great. I would have to admit she is atractive but I have much better at home (my wife) so there is no problems having a strict professional relationship with a women employee. Anyway with todays laws if you do hire a women you had better be careful. Keep work separate from personal life and you will be fine.

GroundKprs

05-26-2002, 12:42 AM

In over 40 years of working in many aspects of the service industry, it is my observation that if you want most any job done well, and you provide proper training, your best investment is hiring female workers. They are more attentive to detail, strive to complete the job properly, and don't try to take shortcuts that reduce quality.

Now I can't give any great input on my own in the lawn maintenance industry, except that all the guys I had working in the past could only do 82% to 96% of the production my wife did when she worked with me. And most of the guys were half my wife's age when she was working.

As a third person, I have heard from large operators from all over the country that a female crew will out produce, and get much fewer customer complaints, than any male crew. In discussions of this at national and state conferences over the last 12 years, I have never heard anyone contradict this idea. Note that these were female crews vs. male crews; the intelligent operators usually don't mix the sexes on crews, if at all possible.

And an apology to the women on this board, for all the macho emptyheads who made their comments above. I noticed that they were all emotional conjecture. No one gave an example of a bad experience with a female employee as a worker.

KirbysLawn

05-26-2002, 12:56 AM

My wife helps out sometimes. Detail..detail..detail. I thought I was bad, and I agree with a few here, I would rather have a female help than most guys I know.

maple city

05-26-2002, 01:28 AM

I'm a woman, and I'm out there working on the crew. My husband and I own the business and we do all the work together. He mows and I trim and blow off walks. I do all advertising, billing and bookwork. On days when he isn't available to mow, I do it by myself. I do all the bidding on jobs. I handle all customer relations.

During the winter, if there's no plowing, we do construction work together.

We've come a long way, baby! :D

Brickman

05-26-2002, 09:23 AM

Maple City your husband is one LUCKY man!

Do you have any sisters? :D

ADMowing

05-26-2002, 10:22 AM

Hey Ladies, glad to know I'm not alone out there!

Maple City -- I do all the bidding also because my husband tends to bid too low and get us into trouble. My bids are more realistic. My husband usually gives me looks when I come back from talking with potential customer with the quote sheet. Then, when they hire us and we start the work, he says, "You know, honey, it was worth the $$$$!" He does all the invoicing and bookwork. I do all the scheduling. We both share mowing and weedeating. He does the edging (but I'll do if it needed) and we both blow off sidewalks. etc... I've been out there by myself too when he was in the hospital. Our customers come out there and can't BELIEVE that I can do it by myself. It is FUNNY!

You are right -- We've come a long way!!!

GO GIRLS!!! and, thanks guys for the recognition!!! We think you're pretty cool too!

kris

05-26-2002, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by GroundKprs
No one gave an example of a bad experience with a female employee as a worker.

We currently have 6 gals who work out in the field. 3 are on maintenance crews and 3 on construction. This is not counting the greenhouse when in peek season there are probably over 50.

I have had many bad examples with females, just as I have had with men.

Over all I feel they may be a little more dependable.

HOMER

05-26-2002, 10:44 AM

I'm still trying to figure out what "bouble mint" meant:confused:

Women have their place, I think George Jefferson said it best.....the kitchen and the bedroom!

I'm kidding;) , my wife helps me everyday, day in and day out. She mows and edges and I do all the trimming. She operates the blower (note how I worded that) too. Without her I would be 50%. We get along fine and although we're not doin' 100 yards a week, we get by...........and do it without jail bird help. I can't say she really loves the work, there are good days and bad days. I can say she loves me and that's why she helps out. One day soon I hope the competition around here wises up and starts raising the prices so I can let her get back to "her world", one that she really enjoys. Until then we'll continue working together and eating out............the kitchen thing just don't happen that much when she works all day:(

I have 2 daughters.............they don't like to get their fingernails dirty:rolleyes: so they haven't been a lot of help.

I do have a 10 year old son too..........it's getting time for him to learn some work ethics:D

wesLESCO48

05-26-2002, 07:24 PM

My wife has been a gem for my business.
It started out that she would just help when i got behind.
Then i had to teach her all the aspects of the business
so she could run it while i'm out due to back surgery.
At first she was faced with uncertainty from the customers
about perfoming all the tasks involved, but she has
performed greatly. At first she was a little slow, i imagine
most people are at first, but now her times are rivaling
mine and by the time i recover i fill she may eclipse my
times. In which case i may have to have her train me.

Lanelle

05-26-2002, 11:04 PM

Our daughter can mow and weed-eat as quickly as any guy. The funny thing is when she recruits one of her guy friends to come and work. They rarely last long. Their egos can't take it. They don't want to (or can't) work as hard as she does. The other funny thing is when other LCO's trucks go by the site where she is mowing -----again and again and again. Hmmm, must be envious.:D

ProSeasons

05-27-2002, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by Mowergirl
Thanks for the editing. Now that I can understand it I feel strangely compelled to reply.

Yes, I do have women in my crew. Namely me, but I also would not hesitate to hire another qualified "gal" if one applied. Sorry guys, but I really feel that we take a little more time double checking properties to be sure things look good; and we're more likely to see areas that need to be cleanup up then yous do. I bought this company from another woman & her and I worked together mowing for 1-1/2 years. All of our customers were extremely happy (with our work... no we didnt wear bikini tops or anything!).

The hardest part for me now on the crew is the heavy work. I'm not real big or strong, so I do rely on one of the guys to mucsle the equipement off the trailer, or to mow the slopes with the walkbehind. Hate depending on the crews for that, but short of becoming more muscular,wich i dont want, what can a girl do?

Robert Ewald

05-27-2002, 11:48 AM

My future wife works side by side with me every day. Wow Can she use a string trimmer, yes she is a little slower than me, but she is much much more consistent in her quality. The clients really like the work she does, and isnt that all that matters what the clienst think.
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