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capetan
02-27-2009, 04:48 PM
okay
new home
property has been smoothed out with a bobcat
still has a few rocks , roots , debris ( not to bad maybe 2 hours of work, )
approx 10,000 sq ft
iam guessing 10 50 lbs bags of seed
about 20 to 25 yards of screened topsoil
and crew of about 3 or 4 guys
iam estimating it will take all day or 10 hours

i am estimating the cost to be $2500

any thoughts to high to low

BSDeality
02-27-2009, 04:59 PM
500lbs of grass seed for 10k ft?

JB1
02-27-2009, 05:04 PM
500lbs of grass seed for 10k ft?


you gotta make sure you got good coverage. :rolleyes:

addictedtolandscaping
02-27-2009, 05:14 PM
That is just plain overkill on the seed. What type of seed are you using, strictly rye or a blend?? Topsoil you are going to need 30 cy to do an inch deep.

JNyz
02-27-2009, 05:26 PM
This is a perfect example of someone who should not be in the business. I don't think I ever used more then 7 pounds per 1000.

JRLANDSCAPING
02-27-2009, 06:06 PM
Are you serious on the grass seed??? you better get double that amount....

capetan
02-27-2009, 06:14 PM
hahahah, thanks for the encouragement......... i want good coverage
by 10 i meant 5 bags , hahahahah , sorry i type before i think :hammerhead:

JB1
02-27-2009, 06:18 PM
[QUOTE=capetan;2807423]hahahah, thanks for the encouragement......... i want good coverage
by 10 i meant 5 bags , hahahahah , sorry i type before i think :hammerhead:[/QUO



uh huh sure.

JRLANDSCAPING
02-27-2009, 06:18 PM
Still 5 50 Pound Bags of Seed is 250 Pounds on 10,000 sq. f.t is still alot. You may want to recalculate.

Tim C.
02-27-2009, 06:23 PM
When I figure for a new lawn comprised of a mix of kentucky blue, rye and and fescue I apply at a rate of 5-7lbs per 1,000 sq ft. I also apply a starter fertilizer.

addictedtolandscaping
02-27-2009, 08:47 PM
5-7 lbs is heavy, I shoot the same ration, also incorporate the starter fertilizer. It never hurts to be a little over on the seed, this is defniitely an ample. You want to ensure that you have some perennial rye there as well, a couple different varieties as anything you get out of the Kentucky and fescue in front of 30 days is a gift, your weeds will be running ramped by then. The rye will shut down your erosion, and put a limitation to the weeds and allow the fescue and Kentucky blue the time and chance to germinate.

david shumaker
02-27-2009, 11:15 PM
I bought some Rebel grass seed today. On the bag it says 8 lbs. per 1,000 sq. ft. on new lawns. When you buy seed, it tells you on the bag the rate to use. If you use too much seed, you will get too many roots competeing for nutrients.

Also, rake your seed into the loose dirt so the seed is covered. Then use a roller.

Cover with straw, peat, etc. to hold in moisture and prevent erosion. I use peat on small areas and straw on large areas.

Lightly water if there is no rain.

Runner
02-27-2009, 11:34 PM
It all depends on what kind of grass it is...
What are you planting?

capetan
02-27-2009, 11:49 PM
that will most likely be tall fescue
i also will be using a starter fertilizer
i will also be using either or topsoil and leafgro , about an inch of coverage over the property.

Lucky Star Lawn Care
02-28-2009, 02:06 AM
Also why so many guys? One man and a skidsteer...??

Runner
02-28-2009, 02:18 PM
that will most likely be tall fescue.

Make darned sure that it is a turf type tall fescue, and not a K-31 (Kentucky-31). If you plant K31, you will certainly regret it.

lwelve
03-01-2009, 07:40 AM
You are way high on your seed amount.
Figure 5 - 7 lbs per 1000 sf.
20-25 yards of screened topsoil plus starter fertilizer, seems like your price is a little low.
3 - 4 guys and 10 hrs, thats 30 - 40 man hours.
Seems you need to recalculate your costs and selling price!

Runner
03-01-2009, 01:50 PM
If it's tttf, it will be 8-10 lb./M. And yes,..if you're bringing in that much topsoil, you need to refigure your numbers. The post above pretty much explains it.

T Money
03-01-2009, 09:59 PM
why are you adding top soil if the yard is already graded. what is the price if it was done with turf grass

Runner
03-02-2009, 12:06 AM
why are you adding top soil if the yard is already graded.

Dog gone,...now THIS is a good question! :laugh: Good point!

GallucciLandscaping
03-02-2009, 12:19 AM
i think your estimation if really off... we can spread and level a tri-axle of topsoil in an hour and a half (and its done to perfection with a man in skidsteer and 1-2 working along the house and walks)... hydroseeding 10k would take no more than 2.5 hours depending on the nearest fire hydrant. so figure high with 3hrs hydro and 2 hrs prep and figure another 1hr max for travel and you are still under an 8 hr day

OUTLANDER
03-02-2009, 12:26 AM
i think your estimation if really off... we can spread and level a tri-axle of topsoil in an hour and a half (and its done to perfection with a man in skidsteer and 1-2 working along the house and walks)... hydroseeding 10k would take no more than 2.5 hours depending on the nearest fire hydrant. so figure high with 3hrs hydro and 2 hrs prep and figure another 1hr max for travel and you are still under an 8 hr day

hey, get caught tapping into a hydrant once:nono:....you won't do that again...LOL

Lucky Star Lawn Care
03-02-2009, 12:41 AM
Unless you have a permit

OUTLANDER
03-02-2009, 01:01 AM
Unless you have a permit

you sure that is even possible?..........heard you can get directly from water co..........but not hydrants

CarolinaClipper
03-02-2009, 11:57 AM
you sure that is even possible?..........heard you can get directly from water co..........but not hydrants


Might depend on the state. You can get a permit for Hydrant here in NC. Register with local Water authority, they give you a meter, charged by usage.

OUTLANDER
03-02-2009, 12:23 PM
Might depend on the state. You can get a permit for Hydrant here in NC. Register with local Water authority, they give you a meter, charged by usage.

thats pretty cool.........thats makes things nice when you have a big hydroseed job, huh................they kinda freak here, but guess i don't know if a permit is obtainable here though either.....we just use a credit card right at the water co.

capetan
03-02-2009, 03:53 PM
i dont think i will be doing the fire hydrant thing , i dont think you can do that in maryland

for estimated time for the job
2 hours or less to remove sticks and stones
3 to 4 hours on the bobcat
2 hours or less for the seeding and starter fertilizer
1.5 for pick up and drop off of the bobcat
so about 9 hours give or take ........... hopefully closer to 8 hours

JB1
03-02-2009, 03:55 PM
i dont think i will be doing the fire hydrant thing , i dont think you can do that in maryland

for estimated time for the job
2 hours or less to remove sticks and stones
3 to 4 hours on the bobcat
2 hours or less for the seeding and starter fertilizer
1.5 for pick up and drop off of the bobcat
so about 9 hours give or take ........... hopefully closer to 8 hours



IF you have never done it before, your first numbers were probably right.

ConstSvcs
03-02-2009, 07:36 PM
If it is topsoil (4-6") that is on the site otherwise add as needed then:

Loosen (power-rake with Harley,Preparator etc.)

Hand rake to finish.

Test soil yes........do a soil test! :waving:

Add fertilizer / lime as per soil test (apply to soil prior to seeding)

Hydroseed ! (10,000 sq ft = $ 1000 )

Water faithfully

Result:

Beautiful, healthy lawn, highest percentage of germination possible, professionally installed.

You'll be rewarded with a happy customer and many more...........honest!:)

ConstSvcs
03-02-2009, 08:36 PM
This is one of my jobsites and the reason why we purchased a small hydroseeder.

We built this office building last year. I couldn't stand the hand seeded lawn we planted and decided to step into hydroseeding on our future projects. I won't seed any other way now. Success of germination is amazing when prepared correctly and watered......use water timers if no irrigation system is present. Proper moisture during and after germination is always the key. These images were taken five weeks after planting. This was planted during the first week of September '08:

Elks
03-03-2009, 07:30 AM
Are there no plants at this new home?

GallucciLandscaping
03-03-2009, 11:06 AM
hey, get caught tapping into a hydrant once:nono:....you won't do that again...LOL

we are allowed in PA. you have to get a meter off the water company and hook the meter up to the hydrant and then pay for water by the thousand... its only like $4 per thousand gallon be stupid to steal it