What do you suggest?

[AdvancedLawns]

Alright, within the next few weeks we plan on buying a big tex 20' pipe top 14,000lb equipment trailer. We plan on hauling a mini excavator on it, a 323 most likely..Well the problem with that is in a few years we plan to buy a t190, and if they both have to be on the same job it would be a pain to haul one, then go back to get the other..we have looked into kubota TLBs but the traction isnt good in thick mud. So i have come down to this..go ahead and buy the big tex 20', or get a gooseneck capable of hauling both at once. we also have a truck that is capable of hauling a gooseneck. What do you think? Any suggestions? Thanks

[ARP]

Well, as much as I would have like a smaller trailer, I went with the larger gooseneck from the start. Less money to put out, than buying 2 trailers, and you can still move the smaller stuff with it. Just gets a little challenging to park it sometimes.

If money is no issue or you aren't worried about having to sell the 20' in a few years, get the 20'. But other than that, I would stick with the larger trailer.

BTW- a 20' deck gooseneck would probably be able to put both machines on it. It would just be tight and carrying extra attachments would be challenging. For safety sake, I would go with a 25' deck and heavier axles, say a 18,000 lb or higher weight rating.

[ARP]

Forgot to ask- what kind of trucks would you be using to tow these two trailers?

[Junior M]

The one thing you've got to take into consideration with the large gooseneck is will you need a CDL?

But I am like ARP, go with the gooseneck, I bought a deckover tag trailer cause it wouldnt rust instead of a goosneck, and I hate it! I'd much rather have a gooseneck, but it does the job...

[AdvancedLawns]

for the bumper pull a f250..not sure about the gooseneck. what do you think..also can i get a large tag along for these two?

[CAT powered]

Junior don't you mean mean "Ma daddy bought a deckover and I wish he dun bought a gooseneck."

Junior it seems kinda silly to me that you'd be pulling a gooseneck with a 3/4 ton truck.

I wouldn't want to put a gooseneck behind anything smaller than a DRW one ton.

[AdvancedLawns]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CLASSIC-10-TON-DUAL-TANDEM-GOOSENECK-25-EQUIPMENT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem370164724992QQitemZ370164724992QQptZM otorsQ5fTrailers

heres one im looking at

[Junior M]

Junior don't you mean mean "Ma daddy bought a deckover and I wish he dun bought a gooseneck."

Junior it seems kinda silly to me that you'd be pulling a gooseneck with a 3/4 ton truck.

I wouldn't want to put a gooseneck behind anything smaller than a DRW one ton.
I was part of the decision and he said I like it, if you like it, I am picking it up Friday.. And I made the decision based on the freakin paint! :realmad:

It was just a 25ft long 14k GN, nothing huge, Dad started out with a 3/4ton pulling goosenecks, they handle them just fine imo..

[AdvancedLawns]

Junior...post a pic, i cant find them on here

[Junior M]

Junior...post a pic, i cant find them on here
Of our equipment trailer?

Its a nice trailer, and it does its job, dont get me wrong, nothing is wrong with PJ trailers, its just for what I want I'd rather have a gooseneck..

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work016.jpg

[AdvancedLawns]

yep.. with it on the truck

[Junior M]

Here it is on the truck...

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work013.jpg

[CAT powered]

Junior it looks like you ought to go cut your grass. And then change your straps out for chains. And add another over the bucket. :nono:

Now to sit back and watch an argument ensue.

[AdvancedLawns]

thats the pic..hows it tow? If i get a similar trailer with bigger axles, can i tow the two cats?

[AdvancedLawns]

Junior it looks like you ought to go cut your grass. And then change your straps out for chains. And add another over the bucket. :nono:

Now to sit back and watch an argument ensue.

i dont want another fight about him and not using chains..lol

[Junior M]

Junior it looks like you ought to go cut your grass. And then change your straps out for chains. And add another over the bucket. :nono:

Now to sit back and watch an argument ensue.
I know, I know, I know, we had this arguement many times, it got so bad Nate started a thread just for it! :laugh:

And it pulls great, you need to add up the weight of a 323 and a T190(not dry weight) and see how much they weigh together and go from there to determine if you can haul both on whatever size trailer..

[CAT powered]

No way you're legal to pull two machines like that on a bumper-pull. You need at least a gooseneck to move two machines at once.

If he had that machine closer to the tongue so another machine could fit that truck would be squatting HARD.

[Junior M]

i dont want another fight about him and not using chains..lol
Thank you!

CAT: Go talk to Kreft about this, I tie equipment down better than he does, he's got straps all over the dam place and it still aint right.. :laugh:

[ARP]

What you can tow is different from what you can tow legally. This is also a subject that has had the stuffing beat out of it several times on this forum:laugh:

An F250 could probably tow a 14,000 lb trailer. Legally, a F250 can only tow about 12,500lbs off the bumper (it might be less- check Ford.com to be sure). So figure a trailer weighs slightly over 4,000lbs and you can only legally put about 8,000lbs of weight on the trailer to stay under the 12.5k lb GVWR. Do people exceed this weight? Everyday. What happens though if you get in an accident and the lawyers start looking at equipment specs? If you are towing a trailer over the 12.5k weight, all the insurance in the world ain't goin to help since you exceeded manufacturer's specs and your insurance would have a basis on which to ditch you.

The gooseneck you have pictured there is nice- I have a PJ gooseneck as you noticed as well. Like it was mentioned earlier, I would not tow a gooseneck with less than a 1 ton. A F350 dually can tow up to 18.7K lbs I believe with a special heavy service package. Take off the weight of a trailer that weights about 7,000lbs for the one you are looking at, and you can only legally tow about 11k lbs of equipment on the trailer. All of the above are why I bought an F450 as I tow slightly heavier loads than what you are looking at towing.

Again, what the truck can handle is different from what is legal. Just decide if you want to be your own insurance company or not :rolleyes:

[ARP]

Btw- A T190 and 323 are pushing 11.5K lbs without any attachments. Gooseneck might be a good option for you- it certainly would be more efficient like you said.

Good luck!

[talus]

Yes, because they are still straps.:hammerhead:

[CAT powered]

To get back to ARP's point:

A certain person on this site hauls his 297C with an F150. Is it legal? Hell no. Is it safe? Not a chance. Can it be done? Apparently so.

[AdvancedLawns]

To get back to ARP's point:

A certain person on this site hauls his 297C with an F150. Is it legal? Hell no. Is it safe? Not a chance. Can it be done? Apparently so.

ive hauled a bobcat 323 with my f150..no problems

ill probably get the 20 foot just for smaller loads..it will be nice for the trucks we have without gooseneck hitches...then in a few years ill get the gooseneck and an F550 for all my heavy loads

[kreft]

Thank you!

CAT: Go talk to Kreft about this, I tie equipment down better than he does, he's got straps all over the dam place and it still aint right.. :laugh:

Hey! you leave me out of this. I don't do straps right? You need to throw one over the bucket like i been tellin' ya for months now. lol

[Junior M]

ive hauled a bobcat 323 with my f150..no problems

ill probably get the 20 foot just for smaller loads..it will be nice for the trucks we have without gooseneck hitches...then in a few years ill get the gooseneck and an F550 for all my heavy loads
Your probably fine with the 323, this 297c weighs in excess of 11k..

I think I'd do the same thing if I were you.. Making 2 trips really isnt that bad, kind of a pain, but if you price it accordingly its not a big deal..

[Junior M]

Hey! you leave me out of this. I don't do straps right? You need to throw one over the bucket like i been tellin' ya for months now. lol
Oh, dont even make me post that pic of your new Bradco backhoe attachment and how it was tied down.. :nono:

:laugh:

[AWJ Services]

It is much safer to tow with a goosekneck so it is quite asinine to say "I would not put a goosekneck on a F250 but use a bumper pull instead?"

I hate bumper pull trailers.If you are going to haul heavy loads regardless of the truck a Goosekneck is the best solution.

I see guys pull race car trailers many miles with F350 trucks and the the trailers go over 20k.


I will also reiterate that if tow limits where such a big deal then why are they not listed for med duty trucks and up?

[CAT powered]

If you're going to drop the $ for a gooseneck why not just upgrade to a larger truck while you are at it?

[AdvancedLawns]

It is much safer to tow with a goosekneck so it is quite asinine to say "I would not put a goosekneck on a F250 but use a bumper pull instead?"

i wouldnt pull both with an f250..im saying i have an f250, so i would most likely tow one at a time with it. I would never use a bumper pull with two machines unless its a heavy duty tagalong on a dump truck or similar
i would pull the gooseneck with the f250 for material and possibly one machine

[AdvancedLawns]

If you're going to drop the $ for a gooseneck why not just upgrade to a larger truck while you are at it?

i would but i dont have the t190 right now..in a few years maybe.

could i tow a gooseneck with the 323 on it only with an f250?and if so ill upgrade the truck when i get the t190

if not a 450 sounds good to me..

[ARP]

You could definitely tow the 323 on a gooseneck behind your 250. A 323 only weighs about 3800 lbs so with a 7000lb trailer you're looking at a total weight of about 11k lbs which is in the range of a F250 and a gooseneck.

However, going this route you might be tempted to tow loads bigger than what is legal. Just don't do it and you will be fine.

[CAT powered]

I don't know your tow specs for the 250.

The biggest risk in towing is stopping. Getting the load moving is easy.

The advantage to a gooseneck is that you are distributing the weight better on the truck rather than having it all behind the rear axle.

Is the 250 a gasser or a diesel? I'd be a lot less worried about a diesel because the diesels are heavier so I believe they have heavier brakes. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe they do.

Either way make sure you have a good brake controller in the truck and keep the brakes in good condition.

[ARP]

BTW- if you don't need the features or look of a pickup when you upgrade, a F550 or F450 with a flatbed, fuel tank, tool boxes, and a gooseneck hitch would be very versatile. I like that kind of setup because you can put an attachment on the back of the truck to take it back to the shop without having to tow the whole trailer back. My next truck will probably be set up that way.

[AdvancedLawns]

6.4 Diesel:weightlifter:

[AdvancedLawns]

BTW- if you don't need the features or look of a pickup when you upgrade, a F550 or F450 with a flatbed, fuel tank, tool boxes, and a gooseneck hitch would be very versatile. I like that kind of setup because you can put an attachment on the back of the truck to take it back to the shop without having to tow the whole trailer back. My next truck will probably be set up that way.

WOW! are you a mind reader, cause(no lie) thats EXACTLY what i had in mind:cool2:

[Gravel Rat]

You definatly want a gooseneck a bumper pull is horrible to pull unless you have a heavy enough truck.

You look at BCRON's truck it is the way to go the F-450 and F-550 trucks really don't make much of a difference in tow capacity because the truck has the exact same brakes etc. The only diffrence is the F-550 can carry more payload but that really doesn't matter because you can only have so much pin weight or concentrated weight on one spot.

[ARP]

I do what I can:drinkup: Post some pics of your 250. The looks of the new Fords have really grown on me since owning one. With the right trim they look great.

[AdvancedLawns]

ill have to go take some..ill have some for you in a bit!

[Hollowellreid]

We couldn't get anything done with just pickup trucks, it would drive me nuts. No room in the bed for an attachment, no real material carrying capacity, ALWAYS having to haul a trailer with you?

No thanks.

A bumper pull/tag trailer is nice when you have enough truck. So many people trying to do so much with so little truck. With a nice flatbed and a bumper pull you can haul a load while pulling your machine, go somewhere and pickup material without a trailer, etc.

[all ferris]

I love it. There are guys on here giving advice on trucks/trailering and they can't even drive yet (read Jr).

[Junior M]

I love it. There are guys on here giving advice on trucks/trailering and they can't even drive yet (read Jr).
I didnt give advice on trucks.. I gave my advice on trailers, so what if I cant drive, that has nothing to do with choosing the right trailer.. I swear.. :realmad:

[AdvancedLawns]

I didnt give advice on trucks.. I gave my advice on trailers, so what if I cant drive, that has nothing to do with choosing the right trailer.. I swear.. :realmad:

right this is my dads business that this is for..I dont have a license, but i drive(illegally) not on highways or anything..

I bet me and junior know more than some of you on the topic of trailers and trucks..well, at least i do lol

[Junior M]

right this is my dads business that this is for..I dont have a license, but i drive(illegally) not on highways or anything..

I bet me and junior know more than some of you on the topic of trailers and trucks..well, at least i do lol
Dont even say that, that just gives them more ammo for the "teenagers think they know everything"

[all ferris]

started out with a 3/4ton pulling goosenecks, they handle them just fine imo..

I didnt give advice on trucks..

Oh..........I guess I CAN'T read.

[Junior M]

Oh..........I guess I CAN'T read.
Oh, yeah, woo hoo, one thing, that wasnt even pointed to MSB in the first place, it was a conversation between me and CAT..

Can you just stop, no reason to get a thread shutdown over some stupid s#it..

[Gravel Rat]

Junior has a Tonka truck in his sand box with a trailer :laugh:




Just giving you a hard time Junior :drinkup:

Most of the time it doesn't pay to use a truck smaller than a single axle 5 ton. If you figure in if you are going to be pulling heavy loads or equipment on a truck daily you will wear out a P/U truck or a F-450-550 in a short time.

A year old or couple year old medium duty 5 ton truck can be had for 40,000 dollars. The truck will outlast a lightduty truck any day. You have a truck that does one purpose it is for work.

[Junior M]

Junior has a Tonka truck in his sand box with a trailer :laugh:




Just giving you a hard time Junior :drinkup:

Most of the time it doesn't pay to use a truck smaller than a single axle 5 ton. If you figure in if you are going to be pulling heavy loads or equipment on a truck daily you will wear out a P/U truck or a F-450-550 in a short time.

A year old or couple year old medium duty 5 ton truck can be had for 40,000 dollars. The truck will outlast a lightduty truck any day. You have a truck that does one purpose it is for work.
:laugh: :laugh:

GR, I think you've got an obsession on everyone owning a 5ton+ truck.. :laugh:

[AdvancedLawns]

Junior has a Tonka truck in his sand box with a trailer :laugh:




Just giving you a hard time Junior :drinkup:

Most of the time it doesn't pay to use a truck smaller than a single axle 5 ton. If you figure in if you are going to be pulling heavy loads or equipment on a truck daily you will wear out a P/U truck or a F-450-550 in a short time.

A year old or couple year old medium duty 5 ton truck can be had for 40,000 dollars. The truck will outlast a lightduty truck any day. You have a truck that does one purpose it is for work.


no it wont tow every day...maybe 2 times every 2 weeks..then we will use the smaller trailer to get material

[Gravel Rat]

You think of it this way a medium duty or larger truck is cheaper in the long run because the truck lasts longer.

[Scag48]

I bet me and junior know more than some of you on the topic of trailers and trucks..well, at least i do lol

Really? I suppose I would have to ask why you started this thread if you know more than anyone else about trucks and trailers, especially since you can't drive. The day that I take advice from a kid who can't drive about trailer choices is the day I'll start endorsing Bobcat.

[Junior M]

Really? I suppose I would have to ask why you started this thread if you know more than anyone else about trucks and trailers, especially since you can't drive. The day that I take advice from a kid who can't drive about trailer choices is the day I'll start endorsing Bobcat.
MSB, thats why I said dont say that, dont ever try and act like you no more than someone else..

[AdvancedLawns]

Really? I suppose I would have to ask why you started this thread if you know more than anyone else about trucks and trailers, especially since you can't drive. The day that I take advice from a kid who can't drive about trailer choices is the day I'll start endorsing Bobcat.

when it comes to goosenecks, i know nothing..but im learning. Thats why i started this thread.To see what other people recommend, if you cant help dont post

[Scag48]

When you post arrogant crap like that on here, you're looking to get burned. Sorry kid, welcome to the party.

[AdvancedLawns]

also i said some of you..not the people on this site in particular though, i could ask my brother to get me a screw driver and he'll come back with a wrench. and hes 20:hammerhead:

[Scag48]

From here on out, do a favor for me. Assume everyone on here knows more than you, regardless of the chosen subject. If you take that approach, you'll learn more than you ever would if you only listened to those who you think are smarter than you. I used to be fairly close minded about things myself, I've since learned to listen to all opinions and draw a rational conclusion instead of picking and choosing what I want to listen to and/or believe. Try it, you'll like it. It'll give you a much broader perspective of what really happens in the world of dirt across the country. A lot of guys on here do stuff way different than I would out here but nonetheless it's good to hear a fresh approach to something I've already seen done, regardless of whether it would work best for me or not.

BTW, when you say "alot of you", you're addressing the forum. Come on now, did you really think you could skip and dance your way out of what you said? :waving: Take note from Junior, he's had MANY a foot-in-the-mouth moments, 1 in this thread so far. :laugh:

[AdvancedLawns]

From here on out, do a favor for me. Assume everyone on here knows more than you, regardless of the chosen subject. If you take that approach, you'll learn more than you ever would if you only listened to those who you think are smarter than you. I used to be fairly close minded about things myself, I've since learned to listen to all opinions and draw a rational conclusion instead of picking and choosing what I want to listen to and/or believe. Try it, you'll like it. It'll give you a much broader perspective of what really happens in the world of dirt across the country. A lot of guys on here do stuff way different than I would out here but nonetheless it's good to hear a fresh approach to something I've already seen done, regardless of whether it would work best for me or not.

will do..

what would you do in my situation though(with the trailer)

[Scag48]

will do..

what would you do in my situation though(with the trailer)

Right on. Now that we got you all straightened out, here's what I would do. Goosenecks are no doubt the superior choice for heavy hauling. You could throw a T190 and 323 in tandem and run it, what was it, 11K and change for the weight? No problem assuming you have the right truck. For the time being, a 3/4 ton rig will be hurting with a gooseneck. The way I see it, if all you're moving right now is a 323, get a light bumper pull to drag behind the 3/4 ton rig. They're so cheap that when you decide to trade up, if you ever decide to trade up because at this point, you're merely speculating years in advance, you'll only be losing a couple grand in the process. You could probably score a used trailer right now that would move a 323 for $3K very easy, $4,500 brand new I would imagine. Then, when you need another machine, assess your transport needs then. I think it would be a little premature to go ahead and buy a gooseneck at this point assuming that you'll have a certain machine down the road. It would be cheaper now to go ahead and do it, but like I said, a smaller bumper pull would suffice between now and then and would only cost a couple grand in lost resale at the time you need to upgrade.

[AWJ Services]

The key to safe towing is weight distribution and good trailer brakes along with a good truck.Towing with a 5ton med duty truck alone does not make it safe.

[AdvancedLawns]

Right on. Now that we got you all straightened out, here's what I would do. Goosenecks are no doubt the superior choice for heavy hauling. You could throw a T190 and 323 in tandem and run it, what was it, 11K and change for the weight? No problem assuming you have the right truck. For the time being, a 3/4 ton rig will be hurting with a gooseneck. The way I see it, if all you're moving right now is a 323, get a light bumper pull to drag behind the 3/4 ton rig. They're so cheap that when you decide to trade up, if you ever decide to trade up because at this point, you're merely speculating years in advance, you'll only be losing a couple grand in the process. You could probably score a used trailer right now that would move a 323 for $3K very easy, $4,500 brand new I would imagine. Then, when you need another machine, assess your transport needs then. I think it would be a little premature to go ahead and buy a gooseneck at this point assuming that you'll have a certain machine down the road. It would be cheaper now to go ahead and do it, but like I said, a smaller bumper pull would suffice between now and then and would only cost a couple grand in lost resale at the time you need to upgrade.

we only rent the t190s right now..so i think were going to look at the bumper pull tomorrow..two trips is cool with us. As we figure it the bumper pull we will end up keeping if we do in fact get a gooseneck..so if one of our crews needs one machine on another job, we dont need to go out of our way b/c only one truck has a gooseneck hitch, they can haul it with the 250

[Dirt Digger2]

i just made myself a bag of popcorn and am going to sit here and watch this one play out....


but wouldn't it be fun to get all these guys together..put them in a 10wheeler with a tag trailer and see how much they really know?...or think they know for that matter, you know, separate the men from the boys...HAHA

[RockSet N' Grade]

DirtDigger.........pass the popcorn......

[bobcat_ron]

I'll chime in here with some experience on trailers and trucks, don't waste money on choosing the right truck to pull the trailer or choosing the right trailer to haul both machines, you would not believe how much money you can save if you bought a slightly larger truck like a Ford F750 series (or equivalent in name and sizes) with a longer chassis and drop a deck on it to hold exactly what you need to put on there, no more stress on the drive line and engines as the truck is meant for that weight, and you don't have the added hassle and cost of insuring the trailer.
If I had to do it all over again, this is the route I would go, grab a used roll down deck truck from a tow truck company, the truck will last longer and you can pile a lot of weight on a single axle truck.

[ford550]

but wouldn't it be fun to get all these guys together..put them in a 10wheeler with a tag trailer and see how much they really know?...or think they know for that matter, you know, separate the men from the boys...HAHA


Amen to that. These little boys and there 3/4 tons and little goose necks. Get a CDL class A, tandem and 20ton and lets talk.

............can you pass the butter for the popcorn please :D

[Scag48]

That's kinda the point I was trying to make. Get what you need to haul what you have now and let the rest figure itself out down the road. For the future, if you plan on strapping 2 pieces to the same trailer, I'd step up to a medium duty truck, even though you could probably make it happen with a 1 ton given the weight you'd be towing.

On second thought, might as well get a KW T800 with 20K front, lift axle, 475 Cat power, 18 speed, and a nice 50 ton Apsen or Rogers lowboy to move the T190 and 323 combo. That way, you're safe. :drinkup:

[ksss]

I put a 440 which weighs about 7K and my TK with weighs about 12,500 on a 31 foot 24KGVW gooseneck. I pull it usually with the 5500 although I have pulled it with the 3500. It is nice being able to haul both at once. Using a 6500 or 7500 would be nice but I need to have 4X4. Harder to find that in the heavier trucks. My bigger pull behind is 18K net GVW. Its a heavy pull behind. The 5500 pulls it to max. GVW with ease. The 5500 is incredibly stable with very heavy loads.

[mrsops]

Tow truck was the best investment i ever made No trailer!!

[ford550]

Tow truck is nice. That last pic doesn't look legal.

[mrsops]

Tow truck is nice. That last pic doesn't look legal.

That last pic is my 9ton eager beaver trailer with both of my s205 machines at most there is only 13,000 lbs on that trailer. In that pic its being pulled by my f-650 but i usally pull it with my f-750

[all ferris]

but wouldn't it be fun to get all these guys together..put them in a 10wheeler with a tag trailer and see how much they really know?...or think they know for that matter, you know, separate the men from the boys...HAHA

You're going to have to wait a couple years... some of the "boys" still have training wheels or no wheels

[AdvancedLawns]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-STERLING-250HP-CAT-9-SPEED-28-ROLLBACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c2 93Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem130289310144QQitemZ130289310144QQptZCommercial Q5fTrucks

this seems cool to have

[talus]

You could also suggest the hooklift or rolloff option to your father. Very versatile but on the expensive side.

[Junior M]

You're going to have to wait a couple years... some of the "boys" still have training wheels or no wheels
I'll have the training wheels in 23days.. :cool2:

[AWJ Services]

Don't tell my equipment that I have never driven a ten wheeler because it might not get back on the trailer out of fear.:drinkup:

[Junior M]

Don't tell my equipment that I have never driven a ten wheeler because it might not get back on the trailer out of fear.:drinkup:
:laugh: :laugh: Sounds like something Ronnies Kitty would do.. :laugh:

[kreft]

Wow here's a new one..... an arguement over trailers and trucks...... lol

any popcorn left? :)

[Junior M]

Wow here's a new one..... an arguement over trailers and trucks...... lol

any popcorn left? :)
Oh yeah, hey Kreft, as soon as you get behind the wheel of a ten wheeler(thats 10wheels on the truck, not the truck and trailer total:laugh:) you can have the popcorn, thats why I am eating doritos.. :laugh:

Oh yeah, I already got that pic of your bradco backhoe tied down uploaded if you want me to post it? :laugh: Talk about a freaking mess!

[CAT powered]

Do it, Junior. Do it! *Prepares to pick apart Kreft's job and put on a show for the popcorn eaters*

[Dirtman2007]

Oh yeah, hey Kreft, as soon as you get behind the wheel of a ten wheeler(thats 10wheels on the truck, not the truck and trailer total:laugh:) you can have the popcorn, thats why I am eating doritos.. :laugh:

Oh yeah, I already got that pic of your bradco backhoe tied down uploaded if you want me to post it? :laugh: Talk about a freaking mess!

I want to see!

[kreft]

Oh yeah, hey Kreft, as soon as you get behind the wheel of a ten wheeler(thats 10wheels on the truck, not the truck and trailer total:laugh:) you can have the popcorn, thats why I am eating doritos.. :laugh:

Oh yeah, I already got that pic of your bradco backhoe tied down uploaded if you want me to post it? :laugh: Talk about a freaking mess!

go for it junior! It's already on this site. If people wanted to see it that bad they can just search for it.:laugh:

I'll go brew some popcorn.

And besides i was behind the wheel of a 10 wheeler........






















on GTA 5. ha





"I can't beleive it's not butter"

[kreft]

I want to see!

chris you have no room to talk.:laugh: You pay another company to tie down your equipment.:laugh:














i'm kiddin chris. i know you tow around some of your toys haha. Can i work for you? :waving:

[Dirtman2007]

chris you have no room to talk.:laugh: You pay another company to tie down your equipment.:laugh:



i'm kiddin chris. i know you tow around some of your toys haha. Can i work for you? :waving:

damn right, I like to lean on the shovel and talk to the driver as the binds the machine down. I might even put the turbo saver on if I can get up there. Then I pretend to drag the shovel on the road to clean up the mud that fell off the tracks. In reality I'm just making the loud screeching noise to piss off the neighbors.


I tried the search but could not find it, now post the pic or you will never have a chance on swinging mud the Dirtman way:laugh:

[Junior M]

to post it or not to post it, that is the question? ;) :laugh: Ah, what the he!!.. :laugh:

One quick question Kreft, since when do you brew popcorn? I knew you popped popcorn and brewed beer, but never knew you brewed both.. ;)

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/kreft.jpg

[kreft]

in my defense there is a strap over the bucket. lol

[talus]

I don't know Junior. I think it's a draw. Maybe someone will start a poll on who's machine will fall off first.:laugh:

[Junior M]

in my defense there is a strap over the bucket. lol
Not the backhoe bucket though... :nono: :laugh:

[Junior M]

I don't know Junior. I think it's a draw. Maybe someone will start a poll on who's machine will fall off first.:laugh:
Atleast I got the front of the machine tied down, I think Kreft would be better off with some string.. :laugh: :laugh:

[kreft]

Not the backhoe bucket though... :nono: :laugh:

it is over the backhoe bucket if you look hard enough :laugh:

[Junior M]

Looks more like you ran a strap over the skid bucket and then put the backhoe in behind of it.. :laugh: :nono:

I am starting a thread for just that.. Thanks for the idear Talus..

[Dirtman2007]

If I haul the tak mini in the dump trailer I just throw a chain over the blade, that's it. It's not going anywhere with the sides on the trailer and tailgate.

[CAT powered]

I vote that Junior's will fall off first.

Junior's straps are old and Kreft's are still new looking.

Junior's are probably frayed and cut. Plus it's Junior. He probably tried riding on the trailer with a strap through his belt buckle claiming it was a seatbelt. :laugh:

[kreft]

Atleast I got the front of the machine tied down, I think Kreft would be better off with some string.. :laugh: :laugh:

Really? I have a strap on the front and back of the machine. And the backhoe is inside the bucket so it wont swing out, and besides it's locked.


You on the otherhand. if you get it an accident that could swing out right through someones windsheild.

[Junior M]

Really? I have a strap on the front and back of the machine. And the backhoe is inside the bucket so it wont swing out, and besides it's locked.


You on the otherhand. if you get it an accident that could swing out right through someones windsheild.
thats a big negative, the boom on the machine is locked, it cant go anywhere..

[Junior M]

I vote that Junior's will fall off first.

Junior's straps are old and Kreft's are still new looking.

Junior's are probably frayed and cut. Plus it's Junior. He probably tried riding on the trailer with a strap through his belt buckle claiming it was a seatbelt. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: No, mine are used, thats the difference, but the ones on the other side are new, these arent as new..

[kreft]

but the lock is made by bobcat. It's designed to fail!

[Junior M]

but the lock is made by bobcat. It's designed to fail!
Ah, screw off! Atleast that machine doesnt take 10min to move when digging.. :cool2: :laugh:

[CAT powered]

Yea, but I bet Kreft's can load a truck 10x faster.

[kreft]

true dat^^^^

[Junior M]

Yea, but I bet Kreft's can load a truck 10x faster.
I dont know bout that, if we are setting at a pile, and I am given the advantage to set on top of the pile, it might be close, that 36in can move some dirt, especially if I've only got to swing 180degrees..

[kreft]

bring it!!!!

[Junior M]

bring it!!!!
I already got enough challenges! I got to flip cups, pick up a quarter, now load a truck.. :dizzy: I am goin to have to get a machine for a weekend just to knock out these challenges..

Only thing I ask: I pick what you load the truck with(what attachment that is)

[CAT powered]

If you get to pick his attachment then he picks yours.

Which will be the shallowest 6" bucket he can find...

[Junior M]

If you get to pick his attachment then he picks yours.

Which will be the shallowest 6" bucket he can find...
Oh, well thats fine, he gets to load it with a harley rake.. :laugh: :laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

I already got enough challenges! I got to flip cups, pick up a quarter, now load a truck.. :dizzy: I am goin to have to get a machine for a weekend just to knock out these challenges..

Only thing I ask: I pick what you load the truck with(what attachment that is)

don't forget, pick up the glass bottle, take the hat off your friends head. Then dig a hole, drive the bobcat in it and cover it up with the New Holland:laugh:

[Junior M]

don't forget, pick up the glass bottle, take the hat off your friends head. Then dig a hole, drive the bobcat in it and cover it up with the New Holland:laugh:
I never got in to the glass bottle and taking the hat off a guys head, I aint got a friend stupid enough to do that.. :laugh:

and you got it backwards, its attempt to dig a hole with a NH, then finish it with the Bobcat, drive the NH in it, and bury it..

[kreft]

i'm up for any challenge.

[Junior M]

i'm up for any challenge.
flipping cups with your backhoe attachment, and dont say it cant be done without a thumb cause Dirt did it..

[kreft]

alright, i'll do that and you try to undress a woman with your bobcat rental.


Deal?

[Junior M]

alright, i'll do that and you try to undress a woman with your bobcat rental.


Deal?
Um, you wouldnt wanna see the women that would be willing to do that, nor would I! :laugh: But I'll flip cups next time I got a machine, I've said that for a long time and once I do that Ronnie is suppose to quit dissing Bobcat once and for all..

[kreft]

alright deal. the first one to do it faster.



where is ron anyway?

[Junior M]

alright deal. the first one to do it faster.



where is ron anyway?
Alright, you got a video camera?