Nuke it?

[Elite LawnCare]

About half the lawn is infested with this. Should I call a local company to spray w/something? FakeGreen was there a few years ago and got it to cut back a little bit. I told her we need to get a soil test and get her soil heading in the right direction. I also told her we should overseed in the fall. She told me her husband likes to cut short&often. I told her it needs to be cut at least at 3 inches. Will all of this get rid of it?

[treegal1]

ok first is it dollar weed?? i have never seen it look like that so i just had to ask to be sure??

next if the Ph is off and the soil is wet its a dreading ground for dollar weed.

and lastly, good idea on the soil test but after that are you going to be able to restructure the soil and lawn to out grow / compete the weeds???

[White Gardens]

Are you talking about the snow mold or the creeping Charley? The brown grass type weed looks like tall fescue that's turned brown.

[Elite LawnCare]

Creeping charlie

[treegal1]

creeping Charley thats it, duh, sorry sort of slow......

try some green guardian on it........ low N and maybe some fulvic acid to help tie up some of the N????

[Marcos]

Looks like your run-of-the-mill ground ivy to me.
Regularly scalping an otherwise healthy lawn will cause weeds like that do encroach.

You gotta keep the blades raised up higher during warmer, droughty periods.
You can lower them (in increments) nearer the end of the season as dormancy approaches; and again in the spring, mow fairly low the first few mowings until it begins to gets warm.

The #1 line of defense against weeds in a lawn is a healthy, think stand of turf, that in essence crowds out weeds before they ever gain a foothold.
And maintaining thick turf like this requires having more common sense with cultural practices like mowing & watering etc, or hiring someone who does.

[White Gardens]

Creeping Charlie is extremely hard to kill, even with chemical applications it's hard to get it back under control. You can go and pick-pull sections of it up, but it will always come back.

[Marcos]

Are you talking about the snow mold or the creeping Charley? The brown grass type weed looks like tall fescue that's turned brown.

Creeping Charley....ground ivy, same thing.

They're both......... Glechoma hederacea
A member of the mint family.
Pick some of it...and make it into tea :):

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=210049&highlight=weed+recipes

Weed Description: Perennial with creeping stems that root at the nodes and foliage that emits a mint-like odor when mowed. Primarily a weed of turfgrass and landscapes that is found in the northeastern, north-central and southern United States.
Seedlings: Although seedlings rarely occur due to the creeping stems and rhizomes, cotyledons are oblong to spatula-shaped.

[Elite LawnCare]

Im looking at green guardians site. Any one use their product? I hope I can fix this problem

[treegal1]

I use it on a limited basis when our weather is conducive to have it work.... after that its a rake and BMP, maybe some round up if its a start up yard with NO grass and thats not your case. you can also try and use vinegar at low dose mixes after you experiment with dilution vs temp, thats the key!!! also stay on the cultural program and dont let up off of it..........


and if thats to hard then hit it with some tri mec or momentum then go back to organic... if that's what it takes....

[White Gardens]

Creeping Charley....ground ivy, same thing.



Ya, all semantics. I think we were close to posting at the same time.

I agree with treegal about the roundup. Unfortunately it appears to be more than well established, and it's going to be hard to get under control.

In the same token, I personally don't like tall fescue for turf, so if you renovate by spraying and starting over, you can establish any type of grass you want.

[heritage]

ONLY IF you are very good at calibration, should you consider applying Boron at a very low rate for Creeping Charlie control. When I get my soil test results, I try to keep Boron around 1 PPM. Which is only 2 Lbs A.I per ACRE. This is what my Lab suggests.

Do a google on Creeping Charlie and Control with Boron. I recall reading about this like 5 years ago and you CAN raise the Boron levels enough so the Creeping Charlie will thin out and die, while your Turf and Landscape plants can not be injured.

BUT if you over do it........It could be a disaster.

Boron is a "Trace" Element plants need. But CC is VERY sensitive to it.

Again only for the folks that are very good with their calibration, and Familiar with Solubor and the like.

Pete

[treegal1]

Pete, I think that is a myth??????? new info that's all...

[Smallaxe]

Creeping Charlie is the bane of organic existance. Knowing that the synApps can't do better is comforting.
Oh, wait - this is not the SynApp website.

Boron control for creeping charlie is as good as - calcium control for dandelions. ... Go fish...