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LiteEmUp
03-04-2009, 11:31 AM
Need some help on figuring out a good solution to a mounting dilema. For cinder block retaining walls faced with natural stone i have been installing a great fixture from FX...the Custode Gradino.

Unfortunately i am not happy with the life span of the MR8 and the color does not work with the rest of my fixtures and they require an extra connection.

This fixture is installed into a 2" pvc sleeve that is built into the wall whereby the fixture body inserts into the sleeve and is tightened into place. This installation allows the stone work to be built up to and around the sleeve giving the finished installation a flush mounted appearance. see pics.

Puck lites like the Gemini from Unique that i am trying to use instead dont mount so hot to an uneven surface like natural stone and its difficult to drill into some of the more dense types of stone to install masonry anchors.

I am looking for some creative solutions to allow me to have a flush mounted Gemini puck light installed on natural stone walls. any help would be appreciated.

klkanders
03-04-2009, 12:16 PM
What about installing a sleeve that the gemini can slide into? Creating a flush mount similar to whats done with a MR 16 well light. I have not used the gemini so I am not sure if this will work or not. Doing this would require some differnt sizes of pvc. Just a thought.

Keith

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
03-04-2009, 07:19 PM
There are many similar fixtures (as the one in your photo) on the market that use MR16 lamps. Off the top of my head I would look to Hunza. I know there are others too but I am too swamped to pour over a bunch of catalogs right now.

Regards.

JoeyD
03-04-2009, 07:21 PM
Can you not switch to a Xelogen lamp in the CG???? The 35w Astro Brite might be just what that fixture needed!!

LiteEmUp
03-05-2009, 02:23 PM
I probably could switch to a xenon lamp...although im still stuck with the natural brass color, no 25' leads and a price tag quite a bit higher than the Gemini. I was looking for a template idea maybe that could be anchored to the block wall that would stick out about 2-3 inches (roughly the size of the veneer stone) where the Gemini could then be fastened to that. The stone work could then be built up to and around the template and the fixture installed post construction. A bunch of circular pieces of plywood glued together could work but thats a ton o work and the wood wont last. If a stainless steel bracket of some sort could be found to raise the fixture 2-3 inches off the block wall that might be the ticket....Joey D. see if Nate can hook me up on that :wall :laugh:

JoeyD
03-05-2009, 02:41 PM
Will do........I will see if a couple of us can put our heads togeather and come up with a solution to help you out......You almost need some sort of a shim option that you can cut to size and fit.........or some foam block????? Hmmmmm.......wheels are turning........

LiteEmUp
03-05-2009, 03:14 PM
Will do........I will see if a couple of us can put our heads togeather and come up with a solution to help you out......You almost need some sort of a shim option that you can cut to size and fit.........or some foam block????? Hmmmmm.......wheels are turning........

Thanks Buddy.

Pro-Scapes
03-07-2009, 10:45 AM
I did pucks on a wall that was similar and I fabricated a stinless mount for them. I wouldnt shim with foam.

Vision 3 also makes a similar light and I am pretty sure they will put whatever lamp you want in them. Burt installed some in a stucco wall and they were stunning.

McKinnon Gardens
03-24-2009, 08:20 PM
When attaching a fixture to an uneven surface I have used a spring over the screws to level the fixture. Either that or grind the stone.

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
03-24-2009, 11:12 PM
When attaching a fixture to an uneven surface I have used a spring over the screws to level the fixture. Either that or grind the stone.

Springs over the screws! Now that is a good tip. Thanks, and welcome to the forum.

So what is the deal with all the new people from Ontario here lately? Not that I am complaining or anything, it is great having so many Canadians joining the ranks. :canadaflag:

JoeyD
04-01-2009, 01:41 PM
Check it out!! We made a custom bit that will allow you to recess the Gemini and Viking in flush!! Look at this picture on our new Spec Sheet.

http://www.uniquelighting.com/Spec%20Sheets/Gemini.pdf

Pro-Scapes
04-02-2009, 12:29 AM
how about a pic of the bit. The downside I see to this is you will be shortening up the photometrics and adding a hot spot ??? Am I seeing this correctly ? I would love to see a daytime pic. I am about to put 4 on a brick wall next to some steps.

JoeyD
04-02-2009, 02:09 PM
depending on the stone surface it is possible that you may have some edges of the rock sticking out to capture more of the light thus creating hot spots.

I will look for more pics. Our bit was stolen or lost so we are having a few more made. Once they are here I will post pics with cost.

LiteEmUp
04-08-2009, 02:45 PM
Thanks for the Info Joey. I will give it a shot. Will have to test it out to see if it will accomplish what i need.

JoeyD
04-08-2009, 03:08 PM
No problem. I will follow up with our guy on the Drill Bits so i can post a picture with cost. Its a cool tool!