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Holleys Landscaping
03-10-2009, 12:27 AM
I received a packet of information to bid an apartment complex. I have everything else bid, but I need help on bidding "New flower bed preperation, includes soil & sod removal, soil installation, topsoil humus and fertilizer" Price is per square foot. Theres a lot of variables to this price thats the difficult part to it. Let me know what you guys think about how to go about pricing it or if you already have a rough price that you do it at. Thanks

ALLPro Landscaping
03-10-2009, 01:34 AM
whats the square feet of the project, whats the soil like, can you use the soil you all ready have their or do you need more soil, what are you going to use as a ground cover mulch etc, if your taking the old sod out, which not all the times you have to, you can just kill weight the needed time and till it in with the top soil, other wise just charge your hourly rate.

weasel
03-10-2009, 01:34 AM
Never had one for flower bed, but plenty of patio gardens 30 x 30 avg I usually avg it up using bagged product i.e 50lb bag fert, 50 lb bag topsoil humus or conditioner,etc then I look at the coverage that a bag will provide and get a list of materials this way. Then if I have bulk sources I'll re adjust the figure. Then I look at prep i.e sod removal,leveling, tilling, then the install of materials and how long Hourly it will take. Sometimes it's a crapshoot I always come out ahead in my estimate, but if I feel I overcharged I'll always give the cust. a credit adjustment back.

ALLPro Landscaping
03-10-2009, 01:37 AM
Weasel your a real honest guy for giving that credit for the job, I just take and run, other wise Id be out of buisness

weasel
03-10-2009, 01:41 AM
Weasel your a real honest guy for giving that credit for the job, I just take and run, other wise Id be out of buisness

haha... At first I did just that.

Holleys Landscaping
03-10-2009, 01:44 AM
Weasel your a real honest guy for giving that credit for the job, I just take and run, other wise Id be out of buisness

lmao...:cry:

I have done that in the past, but a few times I feel like being a nice guy and giving them a credit.

ALLPro Landscaping
03-10-2009, 01:44 AM
LOL i thought so

ALLPro Landscaping
03-10-2009, 01:45 AM
well I guess now a days its not all that bad to help the customer save some money, I just hope the customer appreciates you

Holleys Landscaping
03-10-2009, 01:48 AM
whats the square feet of the project, whats the soil like, can you use the soil you all ready have their or do you need more soil, what are you going to use as a ground cover mulch etc, if your taking the old sod out, which not all the times you have to, you can just kill weight the needed time and till it in with the top soil, other wise just charge your hourly rate.

There is not square foot figure given. This is a whole packet stuff to bid, like mowing, fertilizing, edging...But that helps ill just have to visit Home Depot and get some figures. oh and the soil is all clay around here (as far as I know), so it's going to be a pita to get that soil real perty

Holleys Landscaping
03-10-2009, 01:51 AM
well I guess now a days its not all that bad to help the customer save some money, I just hope the customer appreciates you

oh if I dont expect the customer to appreciate the credit then I usually try to add on a surcharge!!:laugh:

weasel
03-10-2009, 01:59 AM
There is not square foot figure given. This is a whole packet stuff to bid, like mowing, fertilizing, edging...But that helps ill just have to visit Home Depot and get some figures. oh and the soil is all clay around here (as far as I know), so it's going to be a pita to get that soil real perty

Then don't forget Gypsum for the clay.

The Elements Group
03-10-2009, 02:29 AM
depends on size of bed, are you going to use mini nuggets ? what types of flowers? mushroom compost? till existing bed? ammendments? and last but not least 8 " ceter or 12 " centers on spacing good luck...first you need to measure the size of your annual beds then go from there .. why use home depot?dont you have a nursery close by?

Holleys Landscaping
03-10-2009, 12:25 PM
I do, but I am pretty positive that they dont have compost. They have topsoil, mulch...But dont have the required products to ammend the soil. Also at Home Depot or any store, Ill just look at the amount of sq ft a 50lb bag covers and that should be the same for 50lbs anywhere including the nursery if they have it. Also, the account just wants a sf price so they decide one day that they need a flower bed somewhere they can estimate what it will cost. oh and another thing, the flowers are seperate, they arent included in the sf price. Thanks

weasel
03-10-2009, 06:30 PM
Home Depot and Lowes are cheap on annuals. We grow a few of our own and their still cheaper at these places. Not sure about every area though.

Holleys Landscaping
03-11-2009, 10:00 AM
I would really rather go to a nursery and get them. Plants at menards just cant be too healthy. Also, nurseries will give you a deal with x amount of annuals.

LB1234
03-11-2009, 11:26 AM
if I feel I overcharged I'll always give the cust. a credit adjustment back.


Now THAT is some good business sense!!!:clapping::clapping::clapping:

We have done this in the past, the customers love it. It just goes to show that you are an honest contractor.

For those that rely on the materials markup to 'make' money you need to rethink they way you are estimating. I used to do this when I first started 7-8 years ago...man was that the wrong way to do it. Charge for your labor, that is what you make you money on, not materials.

weasel
03-11-2009, 11:03 PM
I would really rather go to a nursery and get them. Plants at menards just cant be too healthy. Also, nurseries will give you a deal with x amount of annuals.

I'm not sure if by "menards" you are referring to Lowe's and Depot, if so the plant farms that stock garden centers & nurseries are the same one's that deliver to Lowe's/Depot. As far as annuals go the quality that I get at these guys are better than my nurseries. I wouldn't expect to go to Lowe's/Depot for mature plants or exotics, but with some plants the quality is the same and the price is better. I love a good value and would never sacrifice quality for it.

Holleys Landscaping
03-12-2009, 12:57 AM
I'm not sure if by "menards" you are referring to Lowe's and Depot, if so the plant farms that stock garden centers & nurseries are the same one's that deliver to Lowe's/Depot. As far as annuals go the quality that I get at these guys are better than my nurseries. I wouldn't expect to go to Lowe's/Depot for mature plants or exotics, but with some plants the quality is the same and the price is better. I love a good value and would never sacrifice quality for it.

huh..I didnt know that:hammerhead:. I have had people tell me not to go to those stores and go to a nursery where they grow them. Thank you I love learning new things:clapping:

Holleys Landscaping
03-12-2009, 01:02 AM
Just got to thinking again. Home Depot/Lowes, they dont give you price reductions after you buy all there stock do they?:laugh: I might get a account where they are going to need around 5-8 flats of annuals, just throwing it out there. And they have 20 some locations. A nursery around here sells them to you cheaper than those large stores would. Ill have to find that out.

weasel
03-12-2009, 01:30 AM
Just got to thinking again. Home Depot/Lowes, they dont give you price reductions after you buy all there stock do they?:laugh: I might get a account where they are going to need around 5-8 flats of annuals, just throwing it out there. And they have 20 some locations. A nursery around here sells them to you cheaper than those large stores would. Ill have to find that out.

Actually they do have contractor's pricing. Go to the garden center and see the Mgr. They can even order product for you. I got 50 Skip Laurels & 25 Otto Luyken Laurels today they were 7gl 30-36 inch for $19.50. John Deere Landscapes are over $35. Plus you get 1 yr warranty. I order B&B plants and trees all the time. They come from the same plant farms here in Mcminnville Tn. I still go to my nurseries but these corps. are good too.