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PRO-DESIGN
03-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Was curious do to economy what was going rate this year for paver instalation. Some guys say they were lowering there rate per sq ft.

PatriotLandscape
03-12-2009, 09:22 AM
we are starting to do them for just the cost of the materials to keep ourselves competitive. sometimes even throwing in the pavers free to get the job. our prices range from 2.30 to 6.45 a square foot.

LB1234
03-12-2009, 09:42 AM
$9 per square foot.

LB1234
03-12-2009, 09:43 AM
$9 per square foot.

did I mention this was my maximum price...:laugh:

Danscapes
03-12-2009, 10:08 AM
Yikes, I've been as high as $20 a sqft so far this year and selling like hot cakes. Did I mention bidding by the sqft will come back to haunt you:nono:

billwlod
03-13-2009, 12:50 AM
Dont be stupid!! Every job is so different you cant give a sq ft price now smarten up Landscapers. Break it down figure out the Time it will take you your expenses material equipment labor overhead travel quantity....... Your setting your self up for loosing money or losing jobs.

ALLPro Landscaping
03-13-2009, 03:56 AM
Just wondering, PatriotLandscape, how are you doing pavers for 2.30 to 6.45 per sqft you figure in coast of material cost of PAVERS and labor etc you at that price, what are you making, how are you making even 1 cent.

ALLPro Landscaping
03-13-2009, 04:00 AM
I understand we are in tough times, but we all need to keep the prices we have used for years, If we start dropping price, forget it this industry is done, we all need to stand behind our prices, don't stoop to the low ballers level, and besides the guys that are under beating you, don't worry the home owner will be calling for a re do

Smitty58
03-13-2009, 08:13 AM
I'm going to mow lawns this year for free just so I can have some work. Come on guys, I can see coming down a little to be competitive and get some business ,but working for nothing is nuts. No one will stay in business using this method.

wurkn with amish
03-13-2009, 08:25 AM
patriot was being sarcastic.
stupid question...... its been asked at least once every2 wks since I've been on here.
How hard is it to use the search tool or just browse back thru the old posts?
As for what do I charge?....... I'm starting to pay the customer to go with us!

PatriotLandscape
03-13-2009, 08:52 AM
Sarcastic my ass! I have never been this busy! I sould have thought of this years ago to think I spent all those years just under cutting by ten percent.

Seriously guys go see a Vander Kooi seminar.

You'll then learn that real hardscapers charge by the square yard! much bigger and more profit.

kootoomootoo
03-13-2009, 10:17 AM
how much sand do I need.

PatriotLandscape
03-13-2009, 10:56 AM
sand? we only use stone dust using one product lets us skip a step in the base prep. keeps prices down and my customers are happy so what does it matter i've been installing patios on stone dust for over 150 years.

LB1234
03-13-2009, 12:24 PM
sand? we only use stone dust using one product lets us skip a step in the base prep. keeps prices down and my customers are happy so what does it matter i've been installing patios on stone dust for over 150 years.


I'm waaayy ahead of you. We rip out the grass and lay the pavers right on top of the soil. We then compact the sod we pulled up for an edge restraint.

riverwalklandscaping
03-13-2009, 02:12 PM
well you guys are all doing it wrong, your wasting time ripping out the grass just leave it and put the pavers on top of the grass and the grass will grow all over and around them and hold them in place and also my price is 0$ per square foot because I steal the pavers and also install them at homes without asking if people want them or not, you get more business this way

Bru75
03-13-2009, 04:01 PM
LMAO! Dropping prices to stay "busy" is crazy! Material and labor cost what they cost, either the owner will pay or they won't! You have to make enough money or what's the point?

M&N Maintenance
03-13-2009, 04:52 PM
LMAO!!! This post is funny.

StBalor
03-13-2009, 05:30 PM
Very!:laugh:

PatriotLandscape
03-13-2009, 06:19 PM
well you guys are all doing it wrong, your wasting time ripping out the grass just leave it and put the pavers on top of the grass and the grass will grow all over and around them and hold them in place and also my price is 0$ per square foot because I steal the pavers and also install them at homes without asking if people want them or not, you get more business this way

This man is a genius. Where is the original poster? he is missing some good information on staying busy!

LB1234
03-13-2009, 09:06 PM
well you guys are all doing it wrong, your wasting time ripping out the grass just leave it and put the pavers on top of the grass and the grass will grow all over and around them and hold them in place and also my price is 0$ per square foot because I steal the pavers and also install them at homes without asking if people want them or not, you get more business this way

you lowballed me dammit!!!!

LB1234
03-13-2009, 09:10 PM
Where is the original poster?

Calculating his square foot paver price?:eek:

wurkn with amish
03-13-2009, 10:09 PM
I like by the square yard! much faster installation that way.
Koo... you dont need sand anymore, didn't you learn that.
Original poster probably posted to get us all going off on a tangent.

kootoomootoo
03-13-2009, 10:59 PM
Actually Ive been working on a wall failure this week....seems they "forgot"
base material, fabric and gravel.

Its special dirt i guess.


Side note: I know a "landscaper" who told a customer that he used sponge rocks on her job. These "sponge rocks" were supposed to alleviate her drainage issue by acting like a sponge.

LB1234
03-13-2009, 11:01 PM
Side note: I know a "landscaper" who told a customer that he used sponge rocks on her job. These "sponge rocks" were supposed to alleviate her drainage issue by acting like a sponge.


No way...seriously????

I don't know what is worse the landscaper coming up with this or the homeowner believing it. :laugh:

riverwalklandscaping
03-14-2009, 11:35 AM
maybe he meant putting down some rip rap under everything that the water would drain into?

kootoomootoo
03-14-2009, 12:12 PM
maybe he meant putting down some rip rap under everything that the water would drain into?

No he meant sponges.

Chilehead
03-14-2009, 12:14 PM
Concrete pavers:$10.00-$12.00 per square foot. Natural stone is more.

LB1234
03-14-2009, 01:36 PM
Concrete pavers:$10.00-$12.00 per square foot. Natural stone is more.


if you do good work I'll sub you out and make at least 10 on you. willing to drive to jersey?

PatriotLandscape
03-14-2009, 05:17 PM
Concrete pavers:$10.00-$12.00 per square foot. Natural stone is more.

did you not read any of the other posts?

besides I always charge less for natural stone. I take my crews down to the beach twice a moth and collect stones and shells. we leave with two truck fulls by the end of the day. Since I don't need to buy the stone I don't charge for it.

keeps my prices down and i get more work!!

LB1234
03-14-2009, 05:37 PM
did you not read any of the other posts?

besides I always charge less for natural stone. I take my crews down to the beach twice a moth and collect stones and shells. we leave with two truck fulls by the end of the day. Since I don't need to buy the stone I don't charge for it.

keeps my prices down and i get more work!!

dude you're killing me....seashells at the beach:laugh:

riverwalklandscaping
03-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Take the driftwood too, it's good for building decks and sheds out of.

ford550
03-14-2009, 09:15 PM
Concrete pavers:$10.00-$12.00 per square foot.

While you are in Jersey. Can you come to PA too? I can give you work too.


your wasting time ripping out the grass just leave it and put the pavers on top of the grass and the grass will grow all over and around them and hold them in place

You laugh. I have seen this done. :nono: And I wonder why I can't price by the job (j/k) :dizzy:

This thread is funny :laugh::laugh::laugh:\

Come on guys, use the search and STOP PRICING PER SF!!!!!

Infinity Landscapes, Inc
03-14-2009, 10:17 PM
:laugh::laugh:why not just use the free sand at the beach skip the base rock and make it a raised patio with sand it's free and the salt is free

Chilehead
03-14-2009, 11:07 PM
if you do good work I'll sub you out and make at least 10 on you. willing to drive to jersey?

You charge based on cost of living and profit margin, I presume. I can clear 40%-50% profit MARGIN in Georgia. It's just a fact. You'll have guys charging as little as $8.00 per square foot installed down here, and they're paying all their bills on time. In Jersey, I'm guessing you don't see squat unless you're charging at least $20.00 per square foot.

wurkn with amish
03-15-2009, 10:11 AM
Chilehead...
We have pavers starting at $7.50ft2, you do the math.

LB1234
03-15-2009, 11:40 AM
You charge based on cost of living and profit margin, I presume. I can clear 40%-50% profit MARGIN in Georgia. It's just a fact. You'll have guys charging as little as $8.00 per square foot installed down here, and they're paying all their bills on time. In Jersey, I'm guessing you don't see squat unless you're charging at least $20.00 per square foot.

Not true...in some instances.

Obviously, it depends what job it is...which is the whole point of this and every other thread. I've done a few jobs under 20 a square that were plenty profitable. My whole point, and everyone elses for that matter, is there is no such thing as a square foot price.

kootoomootoo
03-15-2009, 01:39 PM
I can buy pavers for $1.99 sq ft. Stamped concrete is $8 sq ft here all day everyday.

wurkn with amish
03-15-2009, 03:42 PM
I can buy pavers for less than .50cents a ft2, but doesn't mean I'll install them. As for stamped concrete, thats a whole different ball game.

kootoomootoo
03-15-2009, 03:58 PM
I can buy pavers for less than .50cents a ft2, but doesn't mean I'll install them. As for stamped concrete, thats a whole different ball game.

ok Matt. :)

ford550
03-15-2009, 04:50 PM
I can get pavers for $0/sf, I just have to hang around some neighborhoods until other contractors go home...............:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Seriously, except for crappy holland stone (4x8) (which no one wants around here), how can you possibly be at $8. Techo and EP Henry tumbled stones are at least $3.60 and up for just the block. You guys are crazy.

wurkn with amish
03-15-2009, 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wurkn with amish
I can buy pavers for less than .50cents a ft2, but doesn't mean I'll install them. As for stamped concrete, thats a whole different ball game.

ok Matt.
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