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FaccLndscpng
03-13-2009, 09:27 PM
how much do you guys generally charge for Start up and Shut down? just ball park.

Mike Leary
03-13-2009, 09:42 PM
how much do you guys generally charge for Start up and Shut down? just ball park.

Too many variables for a ball park; suffice to say the system has to be in top operating condition before any cost can
be figured out as to start-up and winterize, otherwise, it's time & materials to get it up to snuff.

Wet_Boots
03-13-2009, 09:52 PM
Somewhere between two and two hundred dollars.

Mike Leary
03-13-2009, 09:54 PM
Somewhere between two and two hundred dollars.

Umm, some of our 90 zoners are a tad more.:rolleyes:

mitchgo
03-14-2009, 01:06 AM
I guess we are pretty cheap to most.

During peak times.
65$ For the first hour and 58 for every hour after

Non peak $58 for the first and $48 for every hour

We usually have 2 people on a job... which I must say it doesn't always work to the customers advantage

AI Inc
03-14-2009, 06:43 AM
Im $65 for up to the first 1/2 hr , $60 an hr after that.

Mike Leary
03-14-2009, 11:05 AM
Im $65 for up to the first 1/2 hr , $60 an hr after that.

Let's get those wages up, boys and girls. A tech with experience should be right up there with the plumbers and electricians.

FIMCO-MEISTER
03-14-2009, 11:49 AM
Let's get those wages up, boys and girls. A tech with experience should be right up there with the plumbers and electricians.

Ditto.......

AI Inc
03-14-2009, 02:16 PM
Aint gonna happen around here, Plumber and electricians are licensed.

Stuttering Stan
03-14-2009, 02:28 PM
Aint gonna happen around here, Plumber and electricians are licensed.

Agreed. Plumbers and electricians are necessities, irrigators are luxuries.
Average start up costs $75. That includes 1 hr of labor, parts are extra. Average systems I can do in an hour- inspect controllers, inspect pump, open VB inspect, pop up all zomes, inspect heads, talk with customer, TRY TO UPSELL, and that's about all.

Wet_Boots
03-14-2009, 02:34 PM
A full 60 minutes of labor for the price of the service call is shortchanging yourself. Bring it down to 30 minutes, and maybe allow the 'generosity' of including another 15 minutes as a freebie. Travel time, you know.

Stuttering Stan
03-14-2009, 02:43 PM
Are you saying I should carge $75 for 30-45 minutes of labor? Right now I charge $75 for the first hr and $50 every hour after. I'm interested in your opinions because I value your knowledge.

irritation
03-14-2009, 02:45 PM
To stay competitive, $75.00 is the about the going rate for a spring turn-on for a typical residential system in my area. However, backflow testing is strictly enforced and required at start up. Takes about 5 minutes and adds another $50.00 or so to bill. :)

Wet_Boots
03-14-2009, 02:49 PM
Basically, you want to pump up your hourly rate as much as the market will bear, and then some. If no one gripes, you're not charging enough. You will encounter some work where this model breaks down, but it helps you if you start expensive, and work down from there.

Stuttering Stan
03-14-2009, 02:53 PM
Good point. I can always overcharge and then come down in order to keep customer happy. This spring is already starting out slow for me, customers don't care about their systems, they are worried about other things in this economy.

Mike Leary
03-14-2009, 03:36 PM
inspect controllers,

That's a vague comment; does that mean you ohm/out the zones to see how the solenoids are aging, or just look at the start times, etc.?

Stuttering Stan
03-14-2009, 03:45 PM
Both, I go through all programs and start times then ohm the zones, also check the 9 volt.

Mike Leary
03-14-2009, 03:49 PM
Both, I go through all programs and start times then ohm the zones, also check the 9 volt.

What a pro! I replace the 9-volts every year, piker.

hoskm01
03-14-2009, 03:55 PM
Basically, you want to pump up your hourly rate as much as the market will bear, and then some. If no one gripes, you're not charging enough. You will encounter some work where this model breaks down, but it helps you if you start expensive, and work down from there.
As an advertised rate, what if you don't hear the gripes because no one is calling? Does that say too high?

I think 75 for 30 min is fair, with some leniency of up to 10-15 min, especially if you spend a few minutes of that up-selling.

irritation
03-14-2009, 03:59 PM
What a pro! I replace the 9-volts every year, piker.

You're both pikers, I teach the customers how to program due to varying differences through out the season and replace the 9-volt themselves.

hoskm01
03-14-2009, 04:00 PM
You're both pikers, I teach the customers how to program due to varying differences through out the season and replace the 9-volt themselves.
Enabler...!!!

FIMCO-MEISTER
03-14-2009, 04:13 PM
I'm in the check the battery school of thought. No point in adding batteries to the landfill unless they are definitely no good. One issue I have with the SL is how fast it will go through batteries because of that asinine panel power design.

Mike Leary
03-14-2009, 04:26 PM
One issue I have with the SL is how fast it will go through batteries because of that asinine panel power design.

Agreed, before we switched over to W*M (at Russ urging),in medium-end sites,I used Hardie/Irritrol "Total Control" clocks. All the battery had to do was keep track of the time. RM clocks need no batteries, by the way. :clapping:

hoskm01
03-14-2009, 04:27 PM
Agreed, before we switched over to W*M (at Russ urging), I used Hardie/Irritrol "Total Control" clocks. All the battery had to do was keep track of the time. RM clocks need no batteries, by the way. :clapping:
Solid state baby!!!

londonrain
03-14-2009, 10:57 PM
Umm, some of our 90 zoners are a tad more.:rolleyes:Some of my 200 zoners are a tad more...$850.00

mitchgo
03-14-2009, 11:07 PM
Some of my 2 zoners are a Tad bit less!

FIMCO-MEISTER
03-15-2009, 07:09 AM
Some of my 200 zoners are a tad more...$850.00

Hey LR long time no post. Did that Greer thread guy call you?

AI Inc
03-15-2009, 07:59 AM
You're both pikers, I teach the customers how to program due to varying differences through out the season and replace the 9-volt themselves.

Pro c ,s we dont use batteries. Rain dials and others we always replace the battery. Buy it for $1.29 , sell it for $3.99

AI Inc
03-15-2009, 08:04 AM
Are you saying I should carge $75 for 30-45 minutes of labor? Right now I charge $75 for the first hr and $50 every hour after. I'm interested in your opinions because I value your knowledge.

Im with Boots on this one. Service call includes UP TO the first 1/2 hr.
Also my pricing is for people that call before may 1st. After that rate goes up to $100 . Its an incentive for them to call early , allowing for tighter routing.

AI Inc
03-15-2009, 08:05 AM
I do the same with blowouts. $78 if they call before oct 12th, $85 13-oct 30th , $100 after nov 1st.

got-h2o
03-16-2009, 12:36 AM
Most of mine are Pro-c's and I don't even put batts in. The rest are mostly Rain dials and Irritrols. We carry a few batts incase the customer asks, other than that they're on their own. Prices vary. Local, average 6 zoner, both start and wint for about a buck and a quarter plus repairs and backflow test if desired. If not they have to sign a waiver. 1 hour included at start up, usually takes about 30 mins. Once arms deep in a manifold or something, it's not hard to pass up the hour total and get on the clock though.

FaccLndscpng
03-16-2009, 01:57 PM
thanks for all the info guys I am just trying to get an idea of what I should charge and the variations really helped.