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hummingbird3d
03-17-2009, 02:21 PM
I spoke to a dealer last week and we discussed the pros and cons of either getting new equipment or buying used. On the used equipment side he pointed out that I should be careful of what I get because one should change oil every 40 hours of work. I didn't know about this, and he also said that many times users forget to do this. This would be one reason for him buying used equipment from them and selling them new as they had more money for the new stuff.

Does this sound like the industry norm or is this simply a way to sell me only on new equipment??

IA_James
03-17-2009, 02:25 PM
He's trying to sell you on new.

tamadrummer
03-17-2009, 02:57 PM
To answer the question simply: Yes! I maintain my equipment.

Grease spindles: every 25 hours
Change oil: every 30 to 50 hours
Change hydro fluid and filter: 300 hours
Spark Plugs: 2xs a year I use Autolite XST plugs (Iridium)
Change air filters 2xs a year
Check belt tension daily
Engine valve adjustment and combustion chamber exam: 300 hours

All these things have been done on my mower. They will continue to be done for as long as I own it.

If you can buy new and maintain it, it will last you forever.

If you have any sort of mechanical abilities, buy used and get it done.

P.S. BE CAREFUL about buying used 2 cycle gear. It is easily abused and you need to watch out when buying used.

djagusch
03-17-2009, 03:17 PM
I try to keep up on the maintenance. The grease gun is always on the trailer. For oil changes if it needs to be done on Wednesday I typically do it that weekend or the weekend before but close enough.

The dealer is telling you to be careful of what you buy. Most of the time you can tell just by looking at the mower if they took care of it but not always. But if the guy just sells them once the are out of warranty he might not of taken care of them, it's in warranty and the dealer will take care of it attitude to watch out for.

redmax fan
03-17-2009, 03:21 PM
speaking of oil changes ive a 10.5 briggs/stratton im changing the oil on right now but the drain plug is froze tight into block , any tips appreciated .

Littleriver1
03-17-2009, 03:29 PM
I change my oil regularly, just before I trade it in.

TomberLawn
03-17-2009, 04:27 PM
The Generac on my Woods says to change every 100 hours! I'm running full synthetic, too, so I might push it to 125 or 150.

I have heard of big companies that trade very frequently and don't change oil or sharpen blades much. That just doesn't make sense. When you figure in the depreciation of trading every 2 years or so, that's a major hit. Changing oil and doing other maintenance should make a mower last 5-8 years, depending on use, at which time it will be completely useless, but it will have earned a lot more money than a 2 year old mower. One day I'll play with some numbers, taking into account fuel usage also, to see how different the total cost of ownership is in trading often vs. maintaining and keeping it forever.

redmax fan
03-17-2009, 04:39 PM
ide never buy a used mower , unless it was without motor and i got it cheap and i just bought the deck and put on a new motor myself . then youve got a motor warranty , and the decks last forever .

topsites
03-17-2009, 06:29 PM
I would say the largest percentage, the biggest slice out of the maintenance pie doesn't change their lawn mower's oil on time.

Lehighlawnpros
03-17-2009, 06:41 PM
It depends on the type of engine also,
In my Grasshopper 722D with Kubota D-902 liquid-cooled
diesel engine I just had an oil analysis done, and at
250 hours on the oil it's still like new (no need to change).

Several factors contribute to this;

liquid cooled engine.

Excellent "Nelson" canister air filter system.

Amsoil ACD SAE-30 synthetic oil.

Amsoil bypass filter (EaBP90) and full-flow filter (EaO-15).

I save a lot of time on maintenance, some money on oil and filters, and I fully expect the engine to run good as new for 10,000+ hours.

Plus, we're saving $700+ per year on fuel with the diesel.

Bob
Lehighlawnpros

vinny69
03-17-2009, 06:43 PM
speaking of oil changes ive a 10.5 briggs/stratton im changing the oil on right now but the drain plug is froze tight into block , any tips appreciated .

wd 40 and a wrench with a snipe

Lawnut101
03-17-2009, 06:52 PM
I change my oil when I am supposed to. One mower has an hour meter, so it's easy to keep track of. The other doesn't, and it's a little harder, but we check it consistently.

Lehighlawnpros
03-17-2009, 06:53 PM
Also, regarding used equipment, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a used Grasshopper with any kind of liquid-cooled Kubota engine (gas or diesel).

These machines are so bulletproof that even if the maintenance has been somewhat neglected, you'll
probably still get 5,000+ hours out of them.

I bought my 722D used and in excellent condition with only 786 hours (now at 1500), for about one third the cost of new.

Bob
Lehighlawnpros

WeCare-LawnCare
03-17-2009, 06:58 PM
We change our oil every two weeks. We gives them a through checkover monthly.

kaferhaus
03-17-2009, 07:16 PM
We change our oil every two weeks. We gives them a through checkover monthly.

Same here, every other Sunday I change it in all of them that are in daily use. The less frequently used equipmnet I change every month or two depending on what it is.

LwnmwrMan22
03-17-2009, 08:18 PM
It depends on the type of engine also,
In my Grasshopper 722D with Kubota D-902 liquid-cooled
diesel engine I just had an oil analysis done, and at
250 hours on the oil it's still like new (no need to change).

Several factors contribute to this;

liquid cooled engine.

Excellent "Nelson" canister air filter system.

Amsoil ACD SAE-30 synthetic oil.

Amsoil bypass filter (EaBP90) and full-flow filter (EaO-15).

I save a lot of time on maintenance, some money on oil and filters, and I fully expect the engine to run good as new for 10,000+ hours.

Plus, we're saving $700+ per year on fuel with the diesel.

Bob
Lehighlawnpros

It's nice to see someone else with statistics to back up what I've been saying for years.

If people sat down and did the actual numbers on what it took to maintain a mower for 5-8 years, INCLUDING time, yes I realize it doesn't take that long to do an oil change, but if you included ALL the time including parts, you'd be surprised at how close you'd be to paying at least 1/2 of what a new one would cost on a more frequent schedule.

Anyways, I change my oil about every 300 hours, usually at the middle of a season, and right when we're ready to put away for winter.

I too use Amsoil.