Buffalo compost

[Barefoot James]

I have a great source for free buffalo castings - LOL. All organic buffalo. No additives to their feed stock nothing.

Anyone have some good receipes for buffalo compost of techniques??

Would this make a good compost?

[Kiril]

I think a green waste compost + manure compost makes an excellent all around compost.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

Sounds like good stuff

[Barefoot James]

What about the buffalo part. Similar to a horse or cow. Is horse poo better than cow poo or about the same?

[DUSTYCEDAR]

i gots the pooooo on me

[44DCNF]

buffalo chips are a bit more spicy

[Smallaxe]

Horse manure is second only to chicken or rabbit manure for N.

Bovine (buffalo) has manure that can still feed pigs from the gutter. The end result depends on what the critter ate.

Iron in = Iron out. So to speak.
Mg in = mg out. ... etc.

[Barefoot James]

Welcome to the thread Adam Sandler - LOL - great movie.

When you say spicy what does that mean - nutrient wise? If it is old stuff would it have even more salts in it than horse poo?

In terms of diet these buffalo just eat field fescues. clover and alfalfa.

What would that poo be like for composting?

[44DCNF]

I'm sorry to mislead you. I was joking, as in spiced up like buffalo wings. I didn't mean to disrespect your thread at all.
I wish I had a source like you do....I'd love to try some out. Would it be possible to have some tested by a lab?

I will have to check to see if the caretakers of a herd in the region have a program to dispense their bison's waste.

[Tim Wilson]

James,

I'm not sure if the buffalo digestive system is the same as a cow or not but believe it is similar. My neighbor says they are both bovines so their manure is likely similar. Therefore the buffalo manure is likely quite hot (N).

In compost, manure is treated like the N factor and you wish to constitute your beginning ratio of Carbon (C) at a range of C:N = 25:1 to 40:1. The amounts of ingredients to make this up will depend on the moisture content, freshness, etc. of your ingredients. If your mix is off too much you can end up locking up the N (because the microbes will consume C instead). There are compost calculators on the internet which can assist with this ratio(there may be a resource in Teaming with Microbes). A good resource is Rodale Institute.

Basically, you want to mix up your manure with some carbon sources like sawdust, brown leaves, straw, etc. Make sure it heats in the center, turn it and so on AND/OR feed your mix to worms.

Did you get the parcel yet?

Tim

[ExtExc]

adam sandler? i gots the poo on me is Joe Dirt. :) its just an old crapper tank people! CLINK.

[44DCNF]

Whatever happened with this, BarefootJames? Did you get some and try it out?

Here are a few shots of some bison compost. We were told it is well composted, and I think finding the sprout in there confirms that. I also figured it was well done when I opened the hatch on the Escape and smelled nothing, and that the wife wasn't exiting the vehicle gasping for air. She got me a sample, from a vendor at a farmers market. I placed some on a few plants to see how they respond, before deciding where to use the rest.. I'd like to see if the man will allow me a few pickup loads of some hotter stuff to build my pile with.

And so, to the buffalo man...:drinkup: Thank's for the manure.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

WHAT I got was a great product
composted screened and clean--no offensive oder

[muddstopper]

You can get bagged buff compost here, http://www.limpertenvironmental.com/buffgrow.html

[muddstopper]

What about the buffalo part. Similar to a horse or cow. Is horse poo better than cow poo or about the same?


Animal Manure Comparison

Animal % N Nitrogen % P Phosphorus % K Potassium

Llama 1.7 0.69 0.66

Chicken 1.0 0.8 0.4

Horse 0.7 0.25 0.55

Sheep 0.95 0.35 1.0

Cow 0.6 0.15 0.45

Pig 0.5 0.35 0.4

[Barefoot James]

I never tried it. WAITING on the Lawn Solutions compost spreader then I will try all beasts and their compost. David is working on it. Until then ................ I'm spreading humates and proteins (meals) - with CT (of course).
Brown patch is the big thing here in KY right now thank goodness for NPP works as advertised! Word to the wise if you have forcasts of lots of rain for extended periods and hot nights - 75 +++ temps spray NPP. I for sure will add this step to my system in 2010.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

spray NPP what rate james
thanks dusty

[ICT Bill]

spray NPP what rate james
thanks dusty

2 ounces per 1000 with a minimum 1 gallon of water per 1000, you want a nice foliar spray for good leaf coverage. At that rate it costs around $1.15 per 1000

It stops it in its tracks same with dollar spot, red thread, take all patch. It is very safe to use and is made from crab and shrimp shells

[Barefoot James]

What Bill said - i might be getting up to 1500 sq ft at that rate - and it is working. Nice too as I have several client with roses and I spray those too - keeps black spot in check.

[nc-jrock]

Does NPP kill off existing brown patch or is it a preventative?

[ICT Bill]

Does NPP kill off existing brown patch or is it a preventative?

It will not bring grass back from the dead (meaning turf that has already been attacked by it) , but it will stop brown patch in its tracks.

[44DCNF]

How about rust, Bill?

[ICT Bill]

How about rust, Bill?

Yes it will, there are 2 ways to control it. The bacillus subtillus in our compost tea and NPP. The Bacillus subtillus colonies have to be in certain numbers for control so this is a longer term control application.
If you want to stop it right now, the NPP is the one to use

[Grohorganic]

I say that some good compost that starts off with say a 28:1 will make a fine compost if it gets the air it needs and has some wood waste in it for the humates...... just age well like wine for sure

[44DCNF]

Thank you for the reply Bill. The rust didn't stick around long or affect much turf (confined to two small areas, instead of the entire lawn as usual). If it comes back I might try the NPP. In the last year and a half I have applied two apps of your ICT, two of Aggrand, and two of Milorganite. I believe my shift to less inputs and more organics, are what is helping with reducing the rust, and just as well, should also help it endure the upcoming dry period much better.