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lawnwizards
03-20-2009, 07:56 AM
with the way gas has rocketed in recent years, just wanted to see what everyone was driving for personal reasons and whats under the hood. oh yea, MPG would be nice too. anyone trying to cut back personal driving or driving hybrid vehicles? thanks.
randy.


mine is a 2004 dodge ram 1500 slt with a 5.7 hemi. i get 13.2 MPG. :laugh:

Hometown
03-20-2009, 08:10 AM
Mine is a 2002 Ford F-250 Superduty with a 7.3L powerstroke Diesel. I wish it would get better mileage, right now the best I get is 13.5 to 14 mpg. My next one will most likely be a Chevy with a Duramax/Allison trans setup. My Father In law has one and he gets usually 19.4 on the highway.

AI Inc
03-20-2009, 08:22 AM
Mine is a 2002 f 250 , 5.4 gas . Getting about 11 . 01 f250 5.4 gets about 10 , 2004 e 250 gas 5.4 gets about 9 2008 ranger with a 2.3 gets about 27

Nick's Lawn Care
03-20-2009, 08:42 AM
Mine is a 2002 f 250 , 5.4 gas . Getting about 11 . 01 f250 5.4 gets about 10 , 2004 e 250 gas 5.4 gets about 9 2008 ranger with a 2.3 gets about 27

Thats what i have 2001 F-250 5.4 4x4 5 speed manual.... Im getting around 10-13 also...

hillbilly_lawnboy
03-20-2009, 08:43 AM
400 small block bored .30 balanced and blueprinted. Comp xtreme 4x4 cam. This baby is built to pull. and i get about 11.5 mpg.

Big Red Ferris
03-20-2009, 08:47 AM
6.0 powerstroke 18-20 mpg idk it had its share of issues uses no oil tho and i has good power

Rangerpro1253
03-20-2009, 08:48 AM
2001 Chevy 2500HD with 6.0L V8, (gas) getting around 14-15 MPG, have aftermarket intake and exhaust to help make it breathe better.

AI Inc
03-20-2009, 08:50 AM
6.0 powerstroke 18-20 mpg idk it had its share of issues uses no oil tho and i has good power

What kind of issues?

PWN
03-20-2009, 09:02 AM
'98 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummins, 5 speed.

CLARK LAWN
03-20-2009, 09:23 AM
i have a 7.3 PSD around town ilage isnt to god but on the highway im pushing 20 mpg

Big Red Ferris
03-20-2009, 11:25 AM
turbo injectors and egr and mass air flow all under warrent at 80k area ford stood behind it all the way

JeffNY
03-20-2009, 11:53 AM
2007 2500HD Classic, 6.0vortec under the hood, and it gets a whopping 8-9mpg. 11mpg highway. Its awesome, I love it.

Dirt Digger2
03-20-2009, 11:58 AM
this is under the hood....and Edge programmer and AFE intake horn is on the way too

MPG?...it would make me too depressed to tell everyone

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/dirtdigger2/2-14-09002.jpg

MBDiagMan
03-20-2009, 12:28 PM
I love diesel engines. Throughout the seventies, eighties and nineties I drove MB diesel cars and in 91 got a Dodge Cummins one ton which I drove about nine years.

That was THEN however. Today, with the modern gas engines having EFI, they are almost and in some cases just as efficient as a diesel engine and gasoline is now cheaper than diesel fuel. On top of that, it costs about an extra $3,500 for a diesel engine in a pickup the last time I looked.

Also, in the days of carburetors on the gas engines, diesel engines would last considerably longer than a gas engine. Nowdays it is quite common to see gas engines go every bit as far as diesels.

Today I drive a gas engine car and my truck is a gas engine F150, five speed, 4.6 V8 that has averaged 16 MPG since I've owned it, about 76,000 miles worth of driving.

My $0.02,

nobagger
03-20-2009, 06:13 PM
with the way gas has rocketed in recent years, just wanted to see what everyone was driving for personal reasons and whats under the hood. oh yea, MPG would be nice too. anyone trying to cut back personal driving or driving hybrid vehicles? thanks.
randy.


mine is a 2004 dodge ram 1500 slt with a 5.7 hemi. i get 13.2 MPG. :laugh:

My personal truck (06 Ford Super Duty 4x4) is also my work truck. Its got a 5.4L gasser, a K&N air induction kit and I recently installed a SCT super tuner. The super tuner did wonder's for power and that combined with the induction kit helped mpg. My average mpg is around 11-12 and it typically doesn't change if I'm pulling the trailer or pushing snow.

punt66
03-20-2009, 06:18 PM
07 dodge hemi. 13-14mpg. Harley Roadking 45mpg. 1962 corvette 10mpg, 1966 mustang 5mpg(drag), 1984 mustang conv 5.0 12mpg. 1966 cyclone gt 390 4sp 10mpg.

signature lawns
03-20-2009, 07:18 PM
I've hit just over 20 MPG on the highway (6.6 Duramax/Allison) I didn't reset it for the first 6,000 miles, and it read 15MPG and that's using air cond., pulling 18 ft enclosed trailer. Since then, plowing, and idling during the winter it's 13MPG

DieselOnly
03-20-2009, 07:46 PM
1994 Chevy K1500 3.73 gear, extended cab, short bed, 6.5 turbocharged Diesel/4L80-E trans.

Get about 17 mixed and 20-ish highway.

lawn king
03-20-2009, 09:00 PM
6.6 duramax lmm, 6 speed allison, 365 hp,18 mpg highway. Gm rocks!

weasel
03-20-2009, 09:48 PM
Ford crew cab dually 7.3 18mpg love'em
Ford twin turbo ford diesel not sure how I like it yet
Just got the new hybrid Caddy pretty cool after driving a diesel I always think it dies when I stop

Gravel Rat
03-20-2009, 10:03 PM
My personal vehical has a 10hp briggs and stratton engine get 80 miles to the gallon :laugh:

Diesel engines in P/U trucks are not worth it anymore the new ones have so much emmisions crap on them.

A new 09 diesel here in Canada costs you a extra 8 grand the V-10 option in the Ford is 1500 dollars. Lets see 8 grand would buy one h*ll of alot of gas.

Not many people in my area keep trucks past 250,000-300,000 kilometers (155,000 to 187,000) usually after 5 years they trade them off. Keeping a diesel truck any longer than that get ready to spend some money.

Doesn't matter what brand of truck you buy at 300,000 kilometers the truck is full of rattles. You dumping money into repairs constantly.

My next truck will probably be a V-10 Ford.

Lakewlc
03-20-2009, 10:44 PM
this is under the hood....and Edge programmer and AFE intake horn is on the way too

MPG?...it would make me too depressed to tell everyone

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/dirtdigger2/2-14-09002.jpg

any outside pics of the truck?

Dirt Digger2
03-20-2009, 11:54 PM
any outside pics of the truck?

sure do.....soon as the cash flow comes in this summer theres going to be 35's going on it...edge juice with attitude and a AFE blade runner intake manifold to top it off

then i will calm down because i dont want to drop 8 grand on a new tranny just yet

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/dirtdigger2/cruise058.jpg

topsites
03-21-2009, 12:03 AM
Sorry, I don't have a personal truck.
Just the work truck and the two cars.

Engine sizes?
5.9L Mopar ~11.5 mpg trailered, ~17 solo, weight of foot affects it little.
1.8L bmw, 20-35mpg depending on weight of the foot.
2.5L bmw, ~22mpg, weight of foot affects it little.

All efi's.

KS_Grasscutter
03-21-2009, 12:07 AM
2002 Chevy K1500 Z71. 5.3 Vortec, get about 14.5 mpg.

Lakewlc
03-21-2009, 09:14 AM
sure do.....soon as the cash flow comes in this summer theres going to be 35's going on it...edge juice with attitude and a AFE blade runner intake manifold to top it off

then i will calm down because i dont want to drop 8 grand on a new tranny just yet



great looking truck

Frontier-Lawn
03-21-2009, 10:19 AM
with the way gas has rocketed in recent years, just wanted to see what everyone was driving for personal reasons and whats under the hood. oh yea, MPG would be nice too. anyone trying to cut back personal driving or driving hybrid vehicles? thanks.
randy.


mine is a 2004 dodge ram 1500 slt with a 5.7 hemi. i get 13.2 MPG. :laugh:

2004 dodge ram 1500 BLACKHEART with a 4.7 and i get a whopping 12.5-13.0 mpg. Soon it will be a create 6.1 HEMI under there. :dizzy:

merrimacmill
03-21-2009, 12:25 PM
I drive, personally, a 08 GMC 1500 SLT with a 5.3 L V8 with an gmpp intake and exhaust and the whole deal and I'm getting 15.5 to 16 mph averaged between highway and city.

nosparkplugs
03-21-2009, 01:06 PM
As the price of crude oil rise's this argument holds some merit for those on the fence for justifying the diesel power option. If your towing over 10,000GTWR daily, or drive more than 20,000 miles a month dieselpower is still the best option. Modern EFI gasoline engines still have their gremlins, and sparkplugs, and pricey repair bills AKA coil packs. The laws of thermal efficiency remains the eternal advantage of the diesel engine cycle. Diesel fuel is 149,000BTU gasoline is 135,000BTU. Bottom line diesel fuel is more potent per gallon of fuel vs gasoline. The longer a diesel engine runs above idle the more efficient it becomes, the exact opposite applies to the otto cycle engine.

Our economy runs on diesel

I love diesel engines. Throughout the seventies, eighties and nineties I drove MB diesel cars and in 91 got a Dodge Cummins one ton which I drove about nine years.

That was THEN however. Today, with the modern gas engines having EFI, they are almost and in some cases just as efficient as a diesel engine and gasoline is now cheaper than diesel fuel. On top of that, it costs about an extra $3,500 for a diesel engine in a pickup the last time I looked.

Also, in the days of carburetors on the gas engines, diesel engines would last considerably longer than a gas engine. Nowdays it is quite common to see gas engines go every bit as far as diesels.

Today I drive a gas engine car and my truck is a gas engine F150, five speed, 4.6 V8 that has averaged 16 MPG since I've owned it, about 76,000 miles worth of driving.

My $0.02,

lawn king
03-21-2009, 01:44 PM
My personal vehical has a 10hp briggs and stratton engine get 80 miles to the gallon :laugh:

Diesel engines in P/U trucks are not worth it anymore the new ones have so much emmisions crap on them.

A new 09 diesel here in Canada costs you a extra 8 grand the V-10 option in the Ford is 1500 dollars. Lets see 8 grand would buy one h*ll of alot of gas.

Not many people in my area keep trucks past 250,000-300,000 kilometers (155,000 to 187,000) usually after 5 years they trade them off. Keeping a diesel truck any longer than that get ready to spend some money.

Doesn't matter what brand of truck you buy at 300,000 kilometers the truck is full of rattles. You dumping money into repairs constantly.

My next truck will probably be a V-10 Ford.

Have you ever had anything positive to say, about anything in your entire life? Guess what, this is america & moose river media is based in america. AMERICA THE FINEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!! And guess what, diesels HERE are not 8 grand more! The thread is about your personal truck, not canada, or the cost of gas in canada, or how long people keep their trucks in canada or what your next truck will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exact Rototilling
03-21-2009, 02:08 PM
I probably have one of he weakest set of tow vehicles here. It's an older 1985 Toyota It's powered by a 22R 4 banger with a carburetor. Right @ 100 hp :hammerhead:

My 1991 4runner has a bit more power and torque with a V6 at roughly 150hp

Both get crummy mileage when pulling my 6 x 12 enclosed 9 - 11 mpg when the trailer is right at 2100 gross weight or so. Both rigs struggle at any speed above 55 mph on the freeway often running at full throttle. :cry: Around town they do fine.

When not towing my old 85 Toy gets 17-21 mpg. 91 4runner still gets crummy mileage at 14mpg. Very little personal use for this reason.

Sorry folks I put the $$ into the working end of the tool. I refuse to go into debt for it at this point.

MBDiagMan
03-22-2009, 08:13 PM
As the price of crude oil rise's this argument holds some merit for those on the fence for justifying the diesel power option. If your towing over 10,000GTWR daily, or drive more than 20,000 miles a month dieselpower is still the best option. Modern EFI gasoline engines still have their gremlins, and sparkplugs, and pricey repair bills AKA coil packs. The laws of thermal efficiency remains the eternal advantage of the diesel engine cycle. Diesel fuel is 149,000BTU gasoline is 135,000BTU. Bottom line diesel fuel is more potent per gallon of fuel vs gasoline. The longer a diesel engine runs above idle the more efficient it becomes, the exact opposite applies to the otto cycle engine.

Our economy runs on diesel

You put forth lots of correct information. Yes if you're towing a LOT of weight constantly, and going lots of miles with that load, a diesel will serve you well, and in that case might possibly be worth the extra initial cost.

You are also correct that there is slightly more energy in a gallon of diesel than in a gallon of gas. As it turns out the percentage difference is roughly the percentage difference of gas/diesel price at the pump, at least as it stands today.

Where I think you're trying to tilt things just a little in your favor is not a good comparison though. Today's EFI engines are hell for reliable. That said, yes, you might end up losing a COP, or replacing a sensor, and yes you need about $30 worth of spark plugs every 50,000 miles or so. Diesels, however, are not 100% reliable either. In that rare case that you might need injection pieces for a diesel, you will be coughing up a lot more for the repair. Oh yeah, don't forget all that extra oil and more expensive filter at oil change time for the diesel.

So, to your point, I believe that you are correct and you make your point well in justifying a diesel for lots of heavy work, but just don't lull yourself into thinking that you will never have a repair bill with a diesel.

BTW, in case you missed my first statement, I am a DIESEL FAN. I've loved them for years. I love the clatter and "there's nothing like the smell of diesel exhaust in the morning."

J&R Landscaping
03-22-2009, 10:47 PM
I love the clatter and "there's nothing like the smell of diesel exhaust in the morning."

Heck Yea!!!

My personal truck is a 1994 Ford F250 4x4. 5.8L, C-6 Auto 3.55 gears. Getting 9.5-11mpg between both city and highway.

My work truck goes out for personal stuff every now and then. Its a 2006 Ford F250 4x4 6.0L PSD! That gets between 15-17 mpg.

TXNSLighting
03-23-2009, 12:20 AM
Have you ever had anything positive to say, about anything in your entire life? Guess what, this is america & moose river media is based in america. AMERICA THE FINEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!! And guess what, diesels HERE are not 8 grand more! The thread is about your personal truck, not canada, or the cost of gas in canada, or how long people keep their trucks in canada or what your next truck will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:clapping::clapping::clapping:

White Gardens
03-23-2009, 01:17 AM
2001 S-10

4.3 Vortex V6.

180,000 miles

18 mpg city

21 mpg highway

Oh, and plenty of power to haul a decent load.

I don't even want to think what my F-350 diesel gets. Not good at all.

TXNSLighting
03-23-2009, 01:25 AM
Duramax! 350 Hp and 650 lb ft of Torque! Done and done! Pulls like a champ!

THEoneandonlyLawnRanger
03-23-2009, 06:16 AM
5.4v8 in a crew cab f350.....get 15mpg highway, unloaded, not bad for a one ton truck

Lakewlc
03-23-2009, 11:16 PM
Duramax! 350 Hp and 650 lb ft of Torque! Done and done! Pulls like a champ!

reliable to! :laugh:

81Bronk36
03-23-2009, 11:38 PM
6.9L IDI backed by a C-6 Drove 250 miles home with a front tire at 30PSI(e rated), and an injecter return line leaking like a siv and got 16MPG. I was happy with that.

4.3mudder
03-24-2009, 01:48 AM
Small 4.8 V8 in my Silverado. Nothing to brag about, but it gets the job done and keeps my butt cold in the summer and warm in the winter. Great on mileage too. 7000 miles for an oil change. Beat that chrystler and ford.

mizzly
03-24-2009, 03:09 AM
Mine is a 2002 Ford F-250 Superduty with a 7.3L powerstroke Diesel. I wish it would get better mileage, right now the best I get is 13.5 to 14 mpg. My next one will most likely be a Chevy with a Duramax/Allison trans setup. My Father In law has one and he gets usually 19.4 on the highway.

The 08 and 09 duramax diesels have suffered a loss in mpg's because of emision requirements. At least thats what i was told by a chevy guy who has been running diesels for a while.

brandon9996
03-24-2009, 02:57 PM
08 GMC Z71 All-Terrain edition, crew cab and gets 15-17 mpg average, my work truck is a 06 f-250 Fx4 powerstroke that gets 19 pulling my trailor and 22 on the highway

Gravel Rat
03-24-2009, 04:01 PM
Have you ever had anything positive to say, about anything in your entire life? Guess what, this is america & moose river media is based in america. AMERICA THE FINEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!! And guess what, diesels HERE are not 8 grand more! The thread is about your personal truck, not canada, or the cost of gas in canada, or how long people keep their trucks in canada or what your next truck will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find that funny Americia the finest country in the world somebody is full of themselves. Like I said I meet quite a few American tourists that have quite a different opinion of the country they live in.

One thing about it no vehical is american made anymore the mexicans are taking your jobs away. Soon as GM goes down along with Chrysler there goes more American jobs I bet Ford isn't too far behind.

One thing about it if your guys economy doesn't improve you will be the poorest nation in the world with record levels of un-employment and house forclosures in the millions :dizzy:

Oh ya got lots of positive things to say I have a job do you :canadaflag:

Just stating the fact here in Canada we get screwed when it comes to vehical prices and the cost of fuel.

The automotive manufactures make the biggest money from Canadians because they make 20% more on vehicals I guess thats to make up for the smaller population.

When our Canadian dollar was on par with the American dollar last year we could buy a brandnew truck 5-10 grand cheaper in the USA than in Canada. The exact same truck only difference was the speedometer is in miles.

As for the diesel gas argument guys like No spark plugs will argue till he is blue in the face :laugh:

In todays market or atleast in a Canadian market diesel pickup trucks don't pay for themselves you buy a diesel because you want one simple as that buying one for durability or fuel economy better give your head a shake.

After 4 years a brandnew truck starts costing you money and a diesel is alot more to fix. I don't give a rats azz what brand it is when it breaks its expensive. Like I said parts are far far cheaper in the USA so its a drop in the bucket for Americans to repair their vehicals. Repair shop rate in areas like where I'am is 80 to 120 dollars per hour so if you can't wrench on your own vehical that is what you pay.

Another thing most people in B.C. don't drive thousands of kilometers a month you live and work in the same area. You don't live 2 hours away from where you work your wasting fuel driving all over h*lls half acre.

A 5 year old diesel P/U truck belonging to a contractor that gets used every day may have at most 200,000kms (124,000 miles) on it. That is extreme not many people put 40,000kms (25,000 miles) on a vehical per year. My truck sees 25,000kms (16,000 miles) a year driven 288 days a year.

In 16,000 miles on my F-450 I have to replace my steering tires every year they are worn out from the roads (bald). I burn about 4500-5000 dollars a year in diesel fuel. The engine oil is 500 dollars a year oil filters 250 dollars a year.

Todays diesel P/U trucks are a nightmare there will be thousands of them forsale and nobody to buy them because the things are too expensive to repair. Buy a emmissions diesel and the warranty runs out watch out.

For Ford the 6.0 engine was the last engine you could actually make a reliable engine with some modifications and removing emmissions parts. The 6.4 not so easy the new 6.7 probably impossible. Now with Dodge the last good engine was the 5.9 the new 6.7 is going to be joining the crowed of emmision controlled boat anchors. Don't know much about Duramax engines so I don't know what they are like.

The new trucks you drive them till the warranty runs out and buy another one you don't keep it till it dies your a fool if you do. Thats all the auto manufactures want is they keep you under their thumb, you have the choke chain around your neck.

If you have a heavy trailer to pull on a regular basis get a medium duty truck something with less emmisions crap and cheaper to fix and buy a gasser P/U for your daily driver.

KrayzKajun
03-24-2009, 04:03 PM
2008 Ford F250 C/C FX4
6.4L turbo diesel (10mpg) who cares

ZTR_Diesel
03-24-2009, 06:21 PM
1996 Ram 2500 5.9L I-6 Cummins. Pre emissions and 19 - 24 mpg city/highway at 347k miles. Diesel USED to be better mileage wise. It'll be a while before they get back there again. This period of time is like the 1970's were for gas engines in the diesel world.

Daily driver: 2000 Honda Accord 5-speed; 185k and 26 - 35 mpg city/highway.

Never will own a hybrid...

TXNSLighting
03-24-2009, 06:42 PM
1996 Ram 2500 5.9L I-6 Cummins. Pre emissions and 19 - 24 mpg city/highway at 347k miles. Diesel USED to be better mileage wise. It'll be a while before they get back there again. This period of time is like the 1970's were for gas engines in the diesel world.

Daily driver: 2000 Honda Accord 5-speed; 185k and 26 - 35 mpg city/highway.

Never will own a hybrid...

yes we know a 96 is pre-emmision. for that fact any 5.9...

Dirt Digger2
03-24-2009, 09:33 PM
yes we know a 96 is pre-emmision. for that fact any 5.9...

thats why i bought my 2006 with 15,000 miles on it instead of a 2007.5.....a lot cheaper too:drinkup:

TXNSLighting
03-24-2009, 10:34 PM
thats why i bought my 2006 with 15,000 miles on it instead of a 2007.5.....a lot cheaper too:drinkup:

:clapping::clapping::clapping:

Fordguy
03-24-2009, 10:46 PM
08 Dodge 2500 4dr 6.7L Cummins. 15-17 mpg

VirginiaLawnCare
03-25-2009, 01:21 PM
01 lightning with a supercharged 5.4L

pitrack
03-25-2009, 04:14 PM
08 Dodge 2500 4dr 6.7L Cummins. 15-17 mpg

nice, I have 5.9 looking at getting a 6.7 with the new tranny. I get about 14-15 now in the city. I will never own another gas truck.

Rhett
03-25-2009, 04:23 PM
2006 Chevy 1500 4.8 that gets 14 towing. I have no idea what it gets without the trailer as it never gets unhitched. 98 Chevy 4x4 350 that gets 12 in the city and 19 highway. It has almost 80,000 miles on it so I figure it is almost broke in.

brandon9996
03-25-2009, 05:51 PM
2008 Ford F250 C/C FX4
6.4L turbo diesel (10mpg) who cares

10 mpg? you sure

J&R Landscaping
03-25-2009, 09:24 PM
08 Dodge 2500 4dr 6.7L Cummins. 15-17 mpg

Time to change your user name!! lol jk :laugh::waving:

TXNSLighting
03-25-2009, 09:35 PM
01 lightning with a supercharged 5.4L

Yes!! :cool2:

GravelyNut
03-28-2009, 09:14 AM
2001 Chevy 3500 dually, 8.1L/Allison, 4.10 locking rear, 12 MPG.

Gravel Rat
03-28-2009, 06:10 PM
The 6.4s don't get very good mileage especially when the burner is running wasting fuel :rolleyes:

A friend of a friend traded a Dodge 6.7 for a 6.4 Ford and he prefers the Ford more power but a little less fuel mileage. He doesn't care he likes the power the 6.4 has that makes up for the lack of power he had with the Dodge.

TXNSLighting
03-28-2009, 07:58 PM
We dont buy these trucks for fuel economy.

Junior M
03-28-2009, 08:06 PM
The 6.4s don't get very good mileage especially when the burner is running wasting fuel :rolleyes:

A friend of a friend traded a Dodge 6.7 for a 6.4 Ford and he prefers the Ford more power but a little less fuel mileage. He doesn't care he likes the power the 6.4 has that makes up for the lack of power he had with the Dodge.
You think Ford is like Gods gift to man..

Gravel Rat
03-28-2009, 11:20 PM
You know what we say around here about guys that buy Dodges :laugh:

punt66
03-29-2009, 05:15 AM
You know what we say around here about guys that buy Dodges :laugh:

Too bad canadians cant make their own.

hillbilly_lawnboy
03-29-2009, 10:50 AM
I find that funny Americia the finest country in the world somebody is full of themselves. Like I said I meet quite a few American tourists that have quite a different opinion of the country they live in.

One thing about it no vehical is american made anymore the mexicans are taking your jobs away. Soon as GM goes down along with Chrysler there goes more American jobs I bet Ford isn't too far behind.

One thing about it if your guys economy doesn't improve you will be the poorest nation in the world with record levels of un-employment and house forclosures in the millions :dizzy:

Oh ya got lots of positive things to say I have a job do you :canadaflag:

Just stating the fact here in Canada we get screwed when it comes to vehical prices and the cost of fuel.

The automotive manufactures make the biggest money from Canadians because they make 20% more on vehicals I guess thats to make up for the smaller population.

When our Canadian dollar was on par with the American dollar last year we could buy a brandnew truck 5-10 grand cheaper in the USA than in Canada. The exact same truck only difference was the speedometer is in miles.

As for the diesel gas argument guys like No spark plugs will argue till he is blue in the face :laugh:

In todays market or atleast in a Canadian market diesel pickup trucks don't pay for themselves you buy a diesel because you want one simple as that buying one for durability or fuel economy better give your head a shake.

After 4 years a brandnew truck starts costing you money and a diesel is alot more to fix. I don't give a rats azz what brand it is when it breaks its expensive. Like I said parts are far far cheaper in the USA so its a drop in the bucket for Americans to repair their vehicals. Repair shop rate in areas like where I'am is 80 to 120 dollars per hour so if you can't wrench on your own vehical that is what you pay.

Another thing most people in B.C. don't drive thousands of kilometers a month you live and work in the same area. You don't live 2 hours away from where you work your wasting fuel driving all over h*lls half acre.

A 5 year old diesel P/U truck belonging to a contractor that gets used every day may have at most 200,000kms (124,000 miles) on it. That is extreme not many people put 40,000kms (25,000 miles) on a vehical per year. My truck sees 25,000kms (16,000 miles) a year driven 288 days a year.

In 16,000 miles on my F-450 I have to replace my steering tires every year they are worn out from the roads (bald). I burn about 4500-5000 dollars a year in diesel fuel. The engine oil is 500 dollars a year oil filters 250 dollars a year.

Todays diesel P/U trucks are a nightmare there will be thousands of them forsale and nobody to buy them because the things are too expensive to repair. Buy a emmissions diesel and the warranty runs out watch out.

For Ford the 6.0 engine was the last engine you could actually make a reliable engine with some modifications and removing emmissions parts. The 6.4 not so easy the new 6.7 probably impossible. Now with Dodge the last good engine was the 5.9 the new 6.7 is going to be joining the crowed of emmision controlled boat anchors. Don't know much about Duramax engines so I don't know what they are like.

The new trucks you drive them till the warranty runs out and buy another one you don't keep it till it dies your a fool if you do. Thats all the auto manufactures want is they keep you under their thumb, you have the choke chain around your neck.

If you have a heavy trailer to pull on a regular basis get a medium duty truck something with less emmisions crap and cheaper to fix and buy a gasser P/U for your daily driver.



bravo sir well said..

brandon9996
03-29-2009, 11:14 AM
The 6.4s don't get very good mileage especially when the burner is running wasting fuel :rolleyes:

A friend of a friend traded a Dodge 6.7 for a 6.4 Ford and he prefers the Ford more power but a little less fuel mileage. He doesn't care he likes the power the 6.4 has that makes up for the lack of power he had with the Dodge.

I dont understand everybody is downing the 6.4's because of gas mileage, i had one for 10 months and i got 16 mpg out of it, it even had a 8 inch lift with 40 inch tires on 22 inch wheels....you just got to know about the truck to make the fuel mileage better believe me its possible

TXNSLighting
03-29-2009, 12:33 PM
and most people are thinking that just because the one ton duallys, and 450's get 10mpg that they all must. NO! Single wheels are getting normal numbers.

OrangeToys
03-29-2009, 01:29 PM
2001 Chevy 2500HD with 6.0L V8, (gas) getting around 14-15 MPG, have aftermarket intake and exhaust to help make it breathe better.

What are you towing to get 14-15mpg and what brand of after market stuff did you put on. I am asking cause I have 2004 model and intake but know exhuast yet and im only get 12mpg.

oshpunit987
03-29-2009, 10:33 PM
I've got an oldie, 79 Chevy crewcab with 4-53T Detroit diesel with 5 speed main transmission and 3 speed auxillary. I checked the mileage 11 years ago when I put the engine in and it got 17MPG.

Lawns Etc.
03-30-2009, 12:38 AM
2003 Chevy 2500 HD 4x4 ext. cab.......8100 vortec with the Allison trany. Gets around 9 miles per gallon. It doesn't matter if it is loaded down or not it still gets the same milage. I have started using the GMC 1500 ext. cab with the 4.8 v8 for running around it gets around 20 to 22 miles per gallon.

brandon9996
03-30-2009, 02:25 AM
I've got an oldie, 79 Chevy crewcab with 4-53T Detroit diesel with 5 speed main transmission and 3 speed auxillary. I checked the mileage 11 years ago when I put the engine in and it got 17MPG.

This is back when chevy made trucks, you got a rare one for nowdays

stroker51
03-30-2009, 03:49 PM
01 F250 Crew cab short bed 4x4 Lariat. Got a K&N intake, Edge Evolution, and get 12-13 in town empty. Best on highway so far was 17.5. Highway mileage pulling S250 Bobcat on my 22' gooseneck at 65-70 was 13.

ZTR_Diesel
03-30-2009, 06:11 PM
I've got an oldie, 79 Chevy crewcab with 4-53T Detroit diesel with 5 speed main transmission and 3 speed auxillary. I checked the mileage 11 years ago when I put the engine in and it got 17MPG.


That's just Cool! Very thumbs up...:usflag:


Years ago in High school, one of my neighbors had a combine that partially burned in the rear - an old 7700 Deere. The engine was fine, though insurance totaled the unit. They stripped out the engine and put that old 6.6L into thier 1978 Chevy K30. They had to do some pretty tricky torch work with the body and firewall to make it work, and I think they used a school bus transmission. Pretty neat in the end with a stack and a nice I-6 turbodiesel setup. Doubt it made all the much power, but it was a nice work truck for them.

GravelyNut
04-01-2009, 03:20 AM
We dont buy these trucks for fuel economy.
I sure didn't buy mine for it. Wouldn't have gotten the 4.10s if I had.:weightlifter:

Nozzleman
04-01-2009, 09:23 PM
2008 Ford F350 Crew Cab, V-10/Torqueshift with 4.30 gears. For those who don't know, when you order a 4X4 with the V-10 and 4.30 ratio your front axle get's upgraded from the regular Dana 60 to a Dana Super60. The Super60 has bigger shafts and some other things I can't remember. The only way to get the Super60 in a srw Superduty truck is with the above mentioned V-10/4.30 combo (because you can't spec the 4.30 ratio with a diesel or 5.4 gas). Dually's, F450's and F550's can get the Super60 with the diesel if you spec 4.30 or higher ratios.

And for mileage I see 9mpg/city and 12.5/highway when unloaded.

ExtExc
04-02-2009, 11:23 PM
03 lb7 duramax with edge juice. averaging around 14mpg with mixed/city i have seen around 20-21mpg on the highway on a trip.

rogerclark
04-09-2009, 11:17 PM
Mine is a 07 Chevy LMM d=max Alli. Just installed DPF delete kit with 5" turbo back kit with AFE intake and tuner from alligator perf. Unreal diff 23-25 mpg empty at 72 mph. Pulls my largest trailer (24' enclosed 9800 lbs.) flawlessly.....

STIHL GUY
04-11-2009, 06:38 PM
98 Ford Ranger 4x4 4.0 V6 gets 12-15 MPG

Not too good for a small truck. My friend has a F350 that gets the same mileage as my ranger

OrangeToys
04-12-2009, 10:59 AM
could we start seeing pics of the personal trucks?

1wezil
04-12-2009, 02:00 PM
Just bought a 2004 F350 6.0.... :cool2::cool2::cool2:

Lawnworks
04-12-2009, 10:40 PM
Too bad canadians cant make their own.

lol... nice!!

My ole POS 2000 dodge just won't let me justify buying a new one. 300k on the clock and runs like it did with 20k. And I think my payment on the truck is about 1k less than gravel rat's!!

Lawnworks
04-12-2009, 10:42 PM
I think the cost analysis vs. fuel efficiency rules out a smaller truck. A 4 cylinder ranger gets 20mpg around town and can hauling nothing, while you can get a duramax, cummins, or powerstroke and get 15-16mpg and actually be able to use the truck.