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CutnEdgePatio
03-20-2009, 12:05 PM
Looking to put pavers about two foot wide on both sides of a driveway to make it wider. Can I cut the blacktop to a straight edge so I can butt the pavers right up to the driveway? Does anyone have some pictures of this done?

shovelracer
03-20-2009, 12:52 PM
It can be done, but odds are it will fail. Reason is that blacktop bases are never as deep or well compacted because it transfers weight differently. You will have issues where the blacktop meets the paver most likely. It really would have to be planned before the driveway goes in. However I see it done all the time. I also see the pavers shift, and it is something I personally wouldnt do.

NewHorizon's Land
03-20-2009, 01:47 PM
I would snap a chalk line or stingline, cut with a cut off saw, lay sufficent base for your area and use pavers intended for driveway use. It can be done and many reputable companies do this every year. Personally I WOULD do it.

AllHardscaping
03-20-2009, 01:59 PM
It is something that can be done if you do it correctly.

You can cut the ashphalt to get a clean edge. Make sure you get a good 10" of base if there going to be driven on. use geogrid under the base and up the side of the blacktop driveway. This will keep the 2 systems seperate. If the base under the driveway starts to settle this way your paver base will not fill that void. I see a lot where that happens and the water washed between pavers and ashphalt bringin down at first the sand and then slowly the gravel. Where ever pavers meet up against another pavement you should keep the base seperate. Especially with concrete. Just use the geo to kind of contain your paver system. I have used adhesive to glue the geo to the cut side of the concrete, this helps keep it out of the way and all the way up when installing gravel.

Rex Mann
03-20-2009, 06:59 PM
Asphalt is not a very good edge restraint because it is flexible. You would need to put a submerged concrete header under the pavers next to the asphalt. This is my 14th year in business doing pavers. I would walk on this one. Good luck.

Peace,

Rex

http://PaversInstalled.Com

weasel
03-20-2009, 08:36 PM
Do you really think it would even look appealing? Everyone has different taste. How long&wide is the drive? Pavers could be more expensive than a re-surface and wideing that can be done easily. If your set on it call Belgard or JDL and talk to them.

B & B Yardscape
03-21-2009, 10:34 AM
I have put them next to pavement and it doesn't work. Well it does if you don't drive on them, the temp doesn't get above 85 and it doesn't snow.

My suggestion would be to dig out the soil, put down fabric, and fill with a decortive rocks of your choice and then edge it. This will give you the added room, and will move and flex with the driveway. Just my $.02

LB1234
03-22-2009, 11:10 AM
use geogrid under the base and up the side of the blacktop driveway. This will keep the 2 systems seperate.

I think you mean geotextile fabric. Grid is used for retaining walls.

PlatinumLandCon
03-22-2009, 11:29 AM
Post 2 paved after, but similar situation. Post 7 paved before and I szipped off an inch to make a clean edge.

Look at: http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=250145


They're pics from my BlackBerry, so they're not the best.

AllHardscaping
03-22-2009, 12:51 PM
I think you mean geotextile fabric. Grid is used for retaining walls.

Yep, I misstyped, thanks for the correction

TerraJeeps
03-25-2009, 12:51 PM
I have a similar project that I'm try to talk the customer into. You need to cement the pavers in place because the asphalt should not be used as the edge restraint. The pavers will shift and then begin to sag. If your doing a two foot wide strip you only need to cement the inside course against the asphalt, but I would still lay the cement on top of 6" base and 3" of concrete. I would lay the rest like a sidewalk with 8-10" base.

Crash
03-26-2009, 09:55 PM
We do it all the time and it looks great. Just make sure you have a good enough base down, like 10-14" if you're using stone crete and sand, and make sure you tamp it every 2-3 inches. Then use polymeric jointing sand to sweep in when you're done, wet it down and it's like concrete. Do them all the time and they look great.

Crash
03-27-2009, 03:23 PM
I found some pics of pavers along a driveway for you. We did this one about 10 years ago.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sanborn83/img094.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sanborn83/img095.jpg

mrusk
03-27-2009, 08:15 PM
You need to excavated and add the proper base for a driveway paver application and make sure your base extends past the pavers around a foot.

PlatinumLandCon
03-28-2009, 12:44 AM
Yeah like Matt said, I would want the base about 8"-1' past the edge of the pavers to hold the edge. Crash, I don't know how much integrity the edge on yours would have, but its 10 years old so no worries

Crash
03-28-2009, 03:55 PM
Here's two more pics for you. This is what we did at my house. It borders the driveway then goes into a walk up to the door.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sanborn83/Edging006.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sanborn83/Edging007.jpg