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landcruiser
03-21-2009, 10:47 PM
I need to replace my 12+ year old Echo straight shaft string trimmer (someone stole it). What do you recommend? I used my Echo for years and loved it. It was very lightweight but the little 22cc engine had all the power I needed. Is the SRM 210 Echo good or is there some other brand that is better for approx. the same money? I do not want a 4 stroke and weight is very important to me. I've used an older Stihl and it was much heavier than my Echo but I've never used any newer Stihl trimmers or any other brand. Give me your opinions and the best place to buy what you recommend. Thanks.

Green Machine Mowing
03-21-2009, 10:55 PM
i have an echo SRM-265, love it. the new engines seem to have more nuts per cc then the older ones, so you can probly stick with about 22cc and have all the power you need. id go with the echo you mentioned, good machine

jg244888
03-21-2009, 11:04 PM
your gonna get mixed opinions from all these
Stihl
Echo
Husqvarna
Redmax
Shindaiwa
you pretty much same with any of these brands!!

A914Man
03-21-2009, 11:24 PM
I've had excellent service life from Stihl equipment, but they are more expensive.

jg244888
03-21-2009, 11:27 PM
your gonna get mixed opinions from all these
Stihl
Echo
Husqvarna
Redmax
Shindaiwa
you pretty much same with any of these brands!!

pretty much safe

luis@NJ
03-21-2009, 11:30 PM
Not to bash on stihl (great saws) but my friend has a stihl trimmer and i have to rev it so much maybe it needs an adjustment idk. But i have 2 echo srm 210's and i like them alot! I believe i have them 3 years now and they still run great, lightweight and good power!

scagdude
03-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Go with stihl. there is a reason they are the number one brand nationwide!! Never had a problem. as far as where to buy i need to know your exact location. im in tx as well. what city are you located in? i would go stihl but its personal preference. i can point you in the direction of good dealers just let me know your location.

landcruiser
03-22-2009, 09:23 AM
Scagdude, I'm around the Longview Texas area - 2 hours east of Dallas. Historically, I've liked Echo over Stihl for trimmers simply because the Stihl's I've used have been heavier. That's the only reason. But I've never used a "new" Stihl trimmer. Maybe they are lighter now. My 21.2cc Echo always had enough power so that's not an issue too much. What Stihl do you recommend and do you know a good dealer in my area? Thanks for your help. I love the quote. I'm a Christian as well and know the Truth.

kaferhaus
03-22-2009, 09:28 AM
FS90R Stihl, great trimmers.

We still have a few SRM 210s they were good trimmers, but under powered, and small gas tanks.

The stihl's only get refueled once a day and get great fuel economy. they're also the easiest to start trimmers we've ever owned and the quietest.

sosaysmorvant
03-22-2009, 09:50 AM
What are the main advantages to a stright shaft trimmer vs. a curved shaft? Is edging easier with a stright shaft???

kaferhaus
03-22-2009, 09:53 AM
What are the main advantages to a stright shaft trimmer vs. a curved shaft? Is edging easier with a stright shaft???

Edging needs to be done with an edger.

Straight shaft trimmers can get under things eaiser, can use a solid shaft (more torque and longer life)

LBLC_LCO
03-22-2009, 09:54 AM
What are the main advantages to a stright shaft trimmer vs. a curved shaft? Is edging easier with a stright shaft???

Straight shaft is easier on your back, it's easier to reach under trees and bushes if need be and it's definitely easier to use if you're edging.

Cuttinitclose
03-22-2009, 10:09 AM
I'm getting a Stihl soon and when I went to look at them I really liked the FS 90R.

dishboy
03-22-2009, 10:19 AM
Edging needs to be done with an edger.

Straight shaft trimmers can get under things eaiser, can use a solid shaft (more torque and longer life)


Initial edging is best with a edger. Some of us EXPERIENCED Professionals can actually clean up a edgers job with the trimmer and do a better job in uneven curb-turf interfaces. Making blanket statements on a national forum with Professionals from all areas of the country where turf cultivars vary is going to get varied responses in which all responses may be right. You might step off that high horse and open you narrow vision.

To the OP , the best Trimmer FOR ME is the Shindiamwa t-270 series with .095 suffex or Shakesphere ultra-twist line.

Pennington Lawncare
03-22-2009, 11:33 AM
I wouldn't get another Echo SRM-210. I bought one last year and there are no carb adjustment screws that the end user can adjust. I think the dealer has special tools to adjust them though. Mine has been a very poor starting trimmer. It may fire after a pull or 2 but, it still takes a few more pulls to get it to start and then it takes a while for it to warm up and run some where close to right. It also cools down quickly and the cold starting process must be repeated once again.

My Husqvarna 323L fired up after only 2 pulls after sitting all winter and I just bought a used Shindaiwa 260 and that thing fires up within a couple pulls and is ready to trim immediately. I also think the Echo trimmers are more prone to dig in and scalp when trimming. I like the cushy handles of the Echo trimmers but, that's about it.

kenny s
03-22-2009, 12:06 PM
I have been a Redmax trimmer user for a 10 years now. I had a trimmer and still do have a bigger Redmax model with a hedge trimmer head on it, (I also got the trimmer head as well for it as a back up). Last summer was time for a new one and my dealer asked me to try out the Kawasaki 26.3 cc GKT 27 model. It is lighter and more powerful than the Redmax I had, and it is balanced well. It is a straight shaft model, and I love it! I never thought I would buy anything but a Remax, but I was pleasantly surprised how far Kawasaki have come with their trimmers. It is a great machine, reasonably and competitavely priced with the others. I highly recommend it. I still love Redmax equipment, my back pack blowers are Remax, and I would not buy any other, at this point.

ed2hess
03-22-2009, 01:40 PM
If you like the Echo then go back and step up a model size to the 230. And get the straight shaft and you will be able to edge just fine. Those bigger Echo units are heavy i.e. 265 so if weight is important stay at 230.

genesis215
03-22-2009, 07:51 PM
The very best trimmer is the Stihl FS 90 28.4cc. It has huge power, great fuel economy, is very quiet, and is only $299. For weight, the FS 100RX is much better (only 10.4 lbs. vs. 11.7lbs). It also has a bigger 31.4cc engine. Don't rule out these 4-stroke 4-MIX engines. They are much more reliable than any modern 2-strokes, and still use the same 50:1 mixed fuel. I would also recommend the Husqvarna 326LS. It's only 9 lbs, and is a straight 2-stroke. The Echo SRM-230 you have is a great trimmer as well, but for only $30 more the Stihl FS 90 is a GREAT upgrade.

Cuttinitclose
03-22-2009, 07:56 PM
The very best trimmer is the Stihl FS 90 28.4cc. It has huge power, great fuel economy, is very quiet, and is only $299. For weight, the FS 100RX is much better (only 10.4 lbs. vs. 11.7lbs). It also has a bigger 31.4cc engine. Don't rule out these 4-stroke 4-MIX engines. They are much more reliable than any modern 2-strokes, and still use the same 50:1 mixed fuel. I would also recommend the Husqvarna 326LS. It's only 9 lbs, and is a straight 2-stroke. The Echo SRM-230 you have is a great trimmer as well, but for only $30 more the Stihl FS 90 is a GREAT upgrade.

Where do you get a 90R for $299? My dealer has it for $329. Is it on sale?

genesis215
03-22-2009, 08:09 PM
Yeah, they are more expensive here in Illinois. They are $299 in most of the country (except for the socialistic states). Duh. Some people have picked them up on sale for $259. Even at $329 they are a great deal compared to anything else.

NEWGUYRI
03-22-2009, 08:46 PM
what do you think of the Stihl FS 100 RX, just bought one

genesis215
03-22-2009, 09:30 PM
The FS 100RX is the very best power-to-weight ratio of any trimmer. It has a 31.4cc engine, yet weighs only 10.4lbs. Lighter even than the Echo SRM-210! By contrast most 25cc trimmers like the Stihl FS 80, Echo SRM-260, and RedMax BCZ2601 weigh around 11 lbs. It has a hollow steel shaft so you can't run attachments on it, but it will do dedicated trimming extremely well, and you won't be able to get over the power in comparison to your Echo SRM-230 (which weighs 1 lb. more).

Triplex
03-22-2009, 09:31 PM
your gonna get mixed opinions from all these
Stihl
Echo
Husqvarna
Redmax
Shindaiwa
you pretty much same with any of these brands!!

That pretty much sums it up - you can ask 5 experienced landscapers and get 5 different answers. I've never used an Echo trimmer myself, but if the thing lasted 12 years (and could have lasted even longer if it wasn't stolen), I'd reward them with continued business unless there's a lack of dealer support in your area.

signature lawns
03-22-2009, 09:47 PM
The Redmax BCZ2610S can be had for $325.00 & Change. very powerful trimmer. It's lightweight & comfortable to handle-comes with a shoulder strap to make it even more comfortable. The Strato charged engine is more environmentally friendly too.:drinkup:

GrassGuerilla
04-10-2009, 12:32 AM
I have been using an echo for about 7 years srm210 I wanted another maybe more powerful for big cleanups. I bought a stihl 100 rx within an hour of struggling with the asthmatic sounding 100 rx i was using the old echo. brand new 31cc 4 mix couldnt make the power in the big weeds of a nearly worn out echo

GrassGuerilla
04-10-2009, 12:37 AM
Wanna bet about the real world performance of all of the models you mentioned?
the 230 kills the 100 rx power wise, heck even the 210 outrevs it dramatically.
I bought the 100 rx for 329.00 +tax returned it to the dealer the same day.

Wizz
04-10-2009, 12:47 AM
I have the Stihl FS110 and absolutely love it. The 4 mix motor has great throttle response and torque all through the powerband, and the powerband isn't as 'peaky' as most 2 strokes, good power too. The 110 has been out one of the longest in the line so it'll be very refined. If you look at the FS100 keep in mind it has a hollow shaft and using attachments will void Stihl's Lifetime warranty on the shaft as the hollow shaft is not meant for attachments if you plan to use any. Best of luck.

Richard Martin
04-10-2009, 03:20 AM
I really think you should go with what you've been happy with these last 7 years. The Echo SRM 210. You've been happy with it, it's been reliable and economical. What's not to like?

Hey there GrassGuerilla... The Stihl 4 Mix never will rev as high as a 2 stroke but then it's not supposed to. The trimmer head on it spins just as fast as any 2 stroke though. I suspect that if you had taken the time to break it in you would have been much happier with your new purchase.

kmzlawncare
04-10-2009, 08:01 AM
I have a Echo pas-265 its got all the power I need and will run all the attachments that echo has.I also have great dealer support and that means a lot. I think there are a lot of good trimmers out there but you should also find a good dealer. Good Luck

andubailey
04-10-2009, 09:09 AM
Give tanaka a look. Lightest trimmer I've ever used and very balanced. I only use mine around twenty hours a month and it might lack a little on power, but really helps me on rough days. I got mine from wise sales ebay store and got the free shipping. Always fires up and never quits. Compared to my echo srm210, makes trimming enjoyable.

IHusky
04-10-2009, 09:33 AM
I have been a Redmax trimmer user for a 10 years now. I had a trimmer and still do have a bigger Redmax model with a hedge trimmer head on it, (I also got the trimmer head as well for it as a back up). Last summer was time for a new one and my dealer asked me to try out the Kawasaki 26.3 cc GKT 27 model. It is lighter and more powerful than the Redmax I had, and it is balanced well. It is a straight shaft model, and I love it! I never thought I would buy anything but a Remax, but I was pleasantly surprised how far Kawasaki have come with their trimmers. It is a great machine, reasonably and competitavely priced with the others. I highly recommend it. I still love Redmax equipment, my back pack blowers are Remax, and I would not buy any other, at this point.

Agree. Kaw KGT27a, very light and powerful. Ran Husqvrana 326 for couple of years, then tried kaw, love the Kaw. The kaw has a very good engine. 1.6 hp. Be carfeful in selecting a Kaw trimmer, the better one has a solid steel drive shaft and some use the cable.

The FS 100RX is the very best power-to-weight ratio of any trimmer. It has a 31.4cc engine, yet weighs only 10.4lbs. Lighter even than the Echo SRM-210! By contrast most 25cc trimmers like the Stihl FS 80, Echo SRM-260, and RedMax BCZ2601 weigh around 11 lbs. It has a hollow steel shaft so you can't run attachments on it, but it will do dedicated trimming extremely well, and you won't be able to get over the power in comparison to your Echo SRM-230 (which weighs 1 lb. more).

Thats some impressive numbers on the FS 100rx. Does it have a solid drive shaft? Has anyone had any problems withe the valves or carbon build up?

David Haggerty
04-10-2009, 09:53 AM
FS 110 R Trimmer

DISPLACEMENT
31.4 cc (1.9 cu. in.)

ENGINE POWER
1.05 kW (1.4 bhp)

WEIGHT*
5.5 kg (12.1 lbs.)


FUEL CAPACITY
530 cc (18 oz.)

Fuel-efficient, powerful trimmer that handles tough jobs and meets emissions requirements.


* Weight without cutting attachment or deflector.


I really like my Stihl FS110R. It comes with a really good bump-feed head. Mine's so old it's wearing out the brass grommets where the line feeds out. Still works fine.

I have the chainsaw & hedge trimmer attachments. It's my favorite hedge trimmer, but I trim great big shrubs.

The 110 weighs an extra pound or so, but to me it's worth it. I can't really feel the extra weight over the 100 or the 90.

Lawnut101
04-10-2009, 10:29 AM
I think you should stick with Echo. I like mine. But I also have a great dealer.

turfbuilder
04-10-2009, 10:35 AM
Love Stihl
FS90R :weightlifter::weightlifter:

IHusky
04-10-2009, 12:54 PM
The kaw has a very good engine. 1.6 hp.

Correction, not 1.6 but 1.2. That would be some crazy numbers for that displacement. Sorry.

BGClawns101
04-10-2009, 03:18 PM
Go with stihl. there is a reason they are the number one brand nationwide!! Never had a problem. as far as where to buy i need to know your exact location. im in tx as well. what city are you located in? i would go stihl but its personal preference. i can point you in the direction of good dealers just let me know your location.

He is right today i just ran over one of my stihl trimmers with my f250 and it is just fine. Well not really but it runs just as good. The cover for the air filter broke and the shaft bent but i just bent it back and it is fine. Like two years ago my dad ran his stihl over and it is 15 years old still runs. Stihl will never let you down.

Coastal Lawn Maintenance
04-10-2009, 04:31 PM
i have a stihl Fs 100rx and love it. got a good dealer around here to which is an advantage.

jkilov
04-11-2009, 10:23 AM
Best straight shaft trimmer? That's an easy one, stihl or shindaiwa. I have owned T25, T270 and FS 85 R. All great pieces of equipment.

borwicks
04-11-2009, 10:39 AM
we run redmax, I still have one from the mid 90s, put a new top end in it last year.

Cutter1
04-11-2009, 10:46 AM
we use to run the shindaiwa t27 and the 270's. we switched to the stihl fs250 and never looked back. we are getting 5 plus years out of these and we work them hard. loved the 270, but always had to change clutches. the 250 seems to hold up better.

NORTHMAN
04-11-2009, 11:57 AM
I have a Shindaiwa T230 that I like very much for light trimming.I hope to buy a Stihl FS 250 this year.I wonder how the new Shindaiwa T282 will be?

STIHL GUY
04-11-2009, 05:00 PM
a lot of companies around here run STIHLS

slawn
04-11-2009, 05:37 PM
I personally never intend to own anything Stihl makes again. I've never owned a stihl that wasn't hard to start. Talked to guy today who just brought a new shindaiwa for that very reason. It will be redmax or shindaiwa for me.

Lehighlawnpros
04-11-2009, 06:20 PM
The Shindaiwa T-270 was the most powerful/smoothest
running trimmer I've owned, but had regular clutch spring failures and began leaking a lot of fuel.

I now have the Kawasaki KGT27A and I really like it,
it's comparable to the Shindaiwa in power but MUCH
lighter in weight. And it doesn't leak fuel!

I'm using Amsoil Saber Professional oil mixed at about
75:1 with mid-grade gas and having good results.

Bob
Lehighlawnpros

green monster
04-11-2009, 07:03 PM
You answered your own question. You had an ECHO 210 for 12+ years and loved it. It was light weight and how many other brands will last a commercial cutter 12 years? If you loved your ECHO, why are you looking to switch?

J&R Landscaping
04-11-2009, 08:48 PM
Redmax BCZ2401 or a Shindaiwa T242.

DJL50
04-11-2009, 09:23 PM
I owned a Stihl trimmer and it was hard to start. Never did like it.
I do own a Stihl chainsaw and it is the best.

I now own an Echo 210 and like it very well.

1styear
04-22-2009, 07:02 AM
stihl or shindaiwa - U need to think about parts availability down the road

Merlin300
04-22-2009, 11:01 AM
Husqvarna 326LS...Starts second pull everytime and has been reliable so far.

blake2727
04-22-2009, 11:22 AM
I have a shindaiwa 242x and love it. I ran a 282x last week and it was a beast. More power than you would ever need and it has a new clutch system that is also a beast. Best trimmer on the market, just a little to much trimmer for me.

Wizz
04-22-2009, 12:57 PM
Thats some impressive numbers on the FS 100rx. Does it have a solid drive shaft? Has anyone had any problems withe the valves or carbon build up?

The 100 has a hollow shaft to save a bit of weight...can't use attachaments on it. My FS110 starts 2nd pull and has more torque/power at half throttle than my previous 2 strokes.

jkilov
04-22-2009, 04:16 PM
I have a shindaiwa 242x and love it. I ran a 282x last week and it was a beast. More power than you would ever need and it has a new clutch system that is also a beast. Best trimmer on the market, just a little to much trimmer for me.
Shindy fitted a 4-shoe clutch on the 282. I think that's overkill, even chain saws don't need it .

blake2727
04-22-2009, 04:33 PM
Shindy fitted a 4-shoe clutch on the 282. I think that's overkill, even chain saws don't need it .

My dealer told me that the reason they went with the 4-shoe clutch was because people kept taking the guards off the trimmers and running 2' of line. They went with the 4-shoe so people can do this if they want and it still want tear it up.

jkilov
04-22-2009, 05:11 PM
My dealer told me that the reason they went with the 4-shoe clutch was because people kept taking the guards off the trimmers and running 2' of line. They went with the 4-shoe so people can do this if they want and it still want tear it up.

Well, the problem with the 270 was that the flimsy guard falling apart after 2 years. I'm one of the few that bought a new guard each time and really never liked it.

The new guards are way better, and my dealer told me the new engines have adjustable carbs, which is something I miss on my 3410. Sounds like the 282 is going to end up as an awesome trimmer.

blake2727
04-22-2009, 05:26 PM
I know a guy who just bought one last week and he said it was the most powerfull trimmer he has ever used. That being said I don't know what he has used in the past to compare it to. I did try one out though and I liked it but I dont have a use for anything that big. Only time will tell how good they are. I love my little 242's but they are no comparison to the 282 as far as size.

blake2727
04-22-2009, 05:29 PM
Jkilov, If you dont mind me asking what dealer are you using?

jkilov
04-22-2009, 05:51 PM
Sure, service auto parts, Greenwood. Sells tons of other stuff. Not many shin dealers around where I live. Well not much anything for that matter.

Why ask, you think we share the same dealer? :laugh::waving:

jeffslawnservice
04-22-2009, 07:38 PM
I have an Echo SRM 210 staright shaft trimmer. I absolutely love it. I have used Shindawa and Hushvarna but I wouldent trade my Echo for either of those. You cant go wrong with Echo. But also consider what dealer is close to you.

freshprince94
04-22-2009, 09:08 PM
I like the FS 90 by Stihl...but it's 4 mix. I would recommend the FS 80, my good friend has one and has used it for 8 years without problems. I hate the Echos, I used to run them and I'm never going to use Echo again.

blake2727
04-23-2009, 01:40 PM
Sure, service auto parts, Greenwood. Sells tons of other stuff. Not many shin dealers around where I live. Well not much anything for that matter.

Why ask, you think we share the same dealer? :laugh::waving:

I just saw that you were from ms but didn't see what part. Im from the brookhaven area and we have two shindy dealers there but I use one in jackson because he is also my grasshopper dealer. Got two dealers 10 mins away and Im drivin 45 mins haha

milike
04-23-2009, 07:44 PM
I need to replace my 12+ year old Echo straight shaft string trimmer (someone stole it). What do you recommend? I used my Echo for years and loved it. It was very lightweight but the little 22cc engine had all the power I needed. Is the SRM 210 Echo good or is there some other brand that is better for approx. the same money? I do not want a 4 stroke and weight is very important to me. I've used an older Stihl and it was much heavier than my Echo but I've never used any newer Stihl trimmers or any other brand. Give me your opinions and the best place to buy what you recommend. Thanks.

as you asked...my opiion

stihl :weightlifter::weightlifter:

vmderrick
04-23-2009, 07:49 PM
You can get under stuff farther with straight shafts. I have Stihl backpack blowers and love them but do not like there weed wackers. I use kawasaki weed wackers and they are excellent

GrassGuerilla
04-25-2009, 08:21 PM
the newer echo units have a plastic piece on the carb that attaches the throttle linkage $30 each time ive broke 2 last year.

Merkava_4
03-30-2010, 07:43 PM
Shindy fitted a 4-shoe clutch on the 282. I think that's overkill, even chain saws don't need it .


I love overkill ... I'm looking hard at that T282. :)

bobcat48
03-30-2010, 08:26 PM
I like my echo srm 225.

joel29m
03-30-2010, 08:38 PM
The best straight shaft trimmer ever is is a poulan pro.
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South Florida Lawns
03-30-2010, 10:41 PM
For real???????? Your gonna post a question like this? Come on stihl echo redmax shindawia, they're are all good. Go to a store pick one out look at the specs see if its too heavy/too light and buy one simple as that! Or demo one if your just that unsure.