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harperservices
03-18-2002, 10:27 PM
I have a Chev Suburban and a 8 foot by 5 trailer. How in the Heck do you guys get in out of small cul-de-sacs?

I have many account calling and they say no one every comes down their street to do business.

Now I see why!

Help with advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!:blob2:

Lawn-Scapes
03-18-2002, 10:45 PM
Where there's a will.. there's a way.

I have one street I have to back down a couple hundred yards. No biggie..

Their grass and money.. is just green :)

TLS
03-18-2002, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by harperservices
How in the Heck do you guys get in out of small cul-de-sacs?




Simple,......Back up!

But there are no cul-de-sac's that I cant turn around in. I have a Extended Cab Long bed pickup with a 16' trailer. Suburbans turn even tighter!???

KirbysLawn
03-18-2002, 10:49 PM
That not that long....must be micro cul-de-sacs! I have a Ford crew cab long bed with a 16' trailer and turn it around in one of the smallest one's around. If a car is parked in it I'm screwed and must back in.:angry:

thelawnguy
03-18-2002, 11:17 PM
A cul-de-sac has a loop at the end correct? Hug the outside curb and wind your way out.

I do one street, maybe 1000 feet long, just stops at a barrier. The municipal plow trucks, trash collection, oil delivery etc all must back all the way down the street lest they be boxed in like a turtle's winkey. As long as there are not too many cars parked on either side I can usually back in a driveway to turn around. Otherwise its back it all the way out. Takes a little time but the aggravation is reflected in the price.

olderthandirt
03-18-2002, 11:58 PM
Pull in, run over the lawns and give a price to fix it, just blame on the guy who just left. LOL

landscaper3
03-19-2002, 12:03 AM
One of these on a cab over!!!

landscaper3
03-19-2002, 12:16 AM
another brand

Bladewielder
03-19-2002, 12:47 AM
I agree with KirbysLawn...must be a pretty small cul-de-sac. I drive an '85 Chevy 3/4 ton reg. cab long bed and pull a 16' trailer. This model truck does not have a very tight turning radius (which might be your problem) so I installed a receiver hitch for the trailer. If you don't already have one go get one. I recommend a class III or class IV. You will be amazed at how much more sharply you can turn around while towing. This will enable you to turn more sharply before jack-knifing. If that does not solve your problem back down the street. (Hint: longer trailers back easier.)

cuttingedgelawncare
03-19-2002, 07:40 AM
i agree there are some loops that i cannot just round the corner. i drive an f-250 ext. cab with 16 ft. trailer and usually there is a home directly at the end of the loop, pull in that drive and back out into another driveway, straighten up and pull out that simple.
if that wont work then just back all the way in, have someone block traffic if need be

TLS
03-19-2002, 08:30 AM
An '85 Chevy will turn about 10 - 15' shorter circle than an otherwise equal '88+ C/K !!!! If you think your turning circle is bad now, make sure you never sell your truck!!!

My '75 Suburban turns like a Honda Civic compared to my '90 Chevy!

KirbysLawn
03-19-2002, 11:40 AM
That is true I didn't even think about the turning radius of that model truck, Chevy's do suck on turning. At MEdic we have all Checy's now, they are horrable, we have a few International's that are huge trucks and can turn them around in small intersections where the Chevy's require 3 point turns.

TOSLC
03-19-2002, 11:47 AM
I drive a 98 Chevy ext. cab with an 18' trailer, and think it turns pretty good. I do have one cul-de-sac that I have to pull in at an angle, back into a drive then finish the turn. But I agree with the others "where there's a will, there's a way."

toby
03-19-2002, 11:49 AM
Chevy now makes the tightest turning truck on the market.

http://aftermarket.theautochannel.com/articles/2001/01/24/013351.html

mdb landscaping
03-19-2002, 01:58 PM
the problem with the quadrasteer is, when youre towing an 18 foot trailer, its still going to pivot the same. id think youd be more likely to jack knife. of course ive never seen one in action, but id be curious if it will turn in a circle better with a trailer?

LAWNS AND MOWER
03-19-2002, 02:13 PM
Get a cube van. Can hold two large commercial mowers, plus all your other gadgets.

LAWNS AND MOWER

toby
03-19-2002, 02:34 PM
mdb, if you read the article in the link it seems to be designed for turning with a trailer.

GLS
03-19-2002, 03:04 PM
Like toby said, they are designed for trailers. I think if it was a problem, however, you can disable it.

LJ lawn
03-19-2002, 03:17 PM
i had a customer a couple years ago where i'd have to back halfway into their driveway to turn around to get out of the court.it seems i keep getting calls from people who live on dead end streets.i turned away the last 3 because it was a major pain to get to the property (dead end street last house on the street -1/4 mile of backing) i have 5 accts already that are on dead ends and one i have to back into their driveway because it's on a main road.it gets to be a pain sometimes with 37 feet of truck/trailer.

TOSLC
03-19-2002, 04:47 PM
LJ Lawn, I agree. Sometimes it just is not worth it. I had a customer last year that lived on a very narrow / busy road. Parking in the road was out of the question. I can back a trailer very well, but with on coming traffic you could never swing the nose of the truck into the other lane. Therefore you couldn't back in, and backing out was even worse. I mowed the yard for about a month, and the little old lady didn't like the "big equipment" (48" WB) on her yard. She wanted me to push mow (21" Lawn Boy) it. The account was profitable, only because it was on the way home from some others. So, I kindly told her I was too busy to keep up with her yard, and refered her to some of the other lco's.

LJ lawn
03-19-2002, 09:01 PM
i used to drive a car carrier rig before going into doing lawns. talk about being stressed out! you couldn't believe the places i'd have to wheel the rig in and out of.backing into dealerships along side of brand new mercedes and bmws,along with loading cars in the rain/snow on the side of a busy road.man,too many bad memories! i need a beer.

rodney
03-20-2002, 02:00 AM
most of the ball streets around here are 75 feet wide not counting the rolled curb .
simi trucks can turn around in them.
only time it makes it rough is when theres a few cars parked.
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why cant you head in and back that small trailer in a drive way ?

a 8'x5' trailer aint nothing just unload and unhook if you cant back in a drive way.

thelawnguy
03-20-2002, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by rodney
most of the ball streets around here are 75 feet wide not counting the rolled curb .
simi trucks can turn around in them.


A competent semi driver can turn a 40' box around in less space than you could turn your 16' receiver hitch trailer and extracab truck in. Seen it done...

rodney
03-20-2002, 02:27 PM
he would only be competent on cool days .
on hot days the trailer tires will twist the blacktop up and make ruts .

theres no sush thing as a competent truck driver .lol

harperservices
03-21-2002, 10:51 PM
That's what I have been doing. (un-hooking the trailer) but that gets old real quick.

Plenty of cars on this smaill and tight street.

summitgroundskeeping
03-21-2002, 11:14 PM
I have a Ranger w/ a norrow 14' trailer. Ranger has the trailhead package 4:10 rear end and a 5-speed. This is what we use for residential accounts b/c the streets a barly wide enough for that, and I do tons of culd-e-saks. Smaller is better when uhave to navigate down norrow streets w/ cars parked on both sides of the street, and drive down narrower than hell bumpy country roads that my rig is almost too wide for.