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KrayzKajun
03-26-2009, 09:01 AM
Im in the market for a dump trailer.

I want a dump trailer for hauling debris, tree waste, Storm Cleanup etc...
maybe throw some mulch or soil in it.

i dont want to go too small and short myself.

I found a lady sellin off her husbands dump trailer after he had a heart attack.

Its 8'x20' diamond dump, dual tandem axles, hydraulic dump, with tarp system. She was asking $5000.00 and i offered $3500(she accepted it)

should i go for it?

also lokkin at getting a used Bobcat T190

Junior M
03-26-2009, 09:06 AM
What size axles? Will your truck be able to handle it fully loaded?

KrayzKajun
03-26-2009, 09:12 AM
10,000# axles

dont ever plan on filling it to the top
plus next year i plan on lookin it ot gettin a reg cab dually,

Junior M
03-26-2009, 09:14 AM
10,000# axles

dont ever plan on filling it to the top
plus next year i plan on lookin it ot gettin a reg cab dually,
Its a 10ton dually, gooseneck I'd hope?

Most of those I've seen they set up to high to load a skidsteer in, but if it's got ramps, then go for it!

KrayzKajun
03-26-2009, 09:19 AM
here is some pics for ya!

Junior M
03-26-2009, 09:25 AM
here is some pics for ya!
Eh, if you wanted strictly for hauling material, yeah, but to haul equipment I wouldnt, you'd have some really steep ramps or you'd have make a dovetail of somesort. You can get a new decent 5 or 7ton for around $3k

kps2389
03-26-2009, 09:26 AM
Looks like it might be a little overkill. But thats a good price imo.

TXNSLighting
03-26-2009, 10:21 AM
Man thats a steal! It is a bit overkill but for the price you cant beat i.

KrayzKajun
03-26-2009, 10:27 AM
it has barn doors and ramps!!

we could prolly cut it make it shorter in height!LOL

Junior M
03-26-2009, 10:29 AM
it has barn doors and ramps!!

we could prolly cut it make it shorter in height!LOL
It has ramps? How long are they?

KrayzKajun
03-26-2009, 10:31 AM
It has ramps? How long are they?

equipmet ramps tht hook on the back. they looked to be about 6' long

Junior M
03-26-2009, 10:32 AM
equipmet ramps tht hook on the back. they looked to be about 6' long
Hmm, that wouldnt be bad, I bet they are heavy as hell, but if you think you can do it with that then go for it! But I'd definetly cut the side..

Duffster
03-26-2009, 11:06 AM
equipmet ramps tht hook on the back. they looked to be about 6' long

That is pretty steep for a deckover

Especially considering that you will HAVE to back on at that point

That in turn will limit you to the attachments that you can carry in one trip on/off

CALandscapes
03-26-2009, 11:08 AM
Eh, if you wanted strictly for hauling material, yeah, but to haul equipment I wouldnt, you'd have some really steep ramps or you'd have make a dovetail of somesort. You can get a new decent 5 or 7ton for around $3k

New 5 or 7k dump trailer for $3k? Where????!?

Junior M
03-26-2009, 11:09 AM
New 5 or 7k dump trailer for $3k? Where????!?
Oops.. :hammerhead: I meant to say equipment trailer..

Danscapes
03-26-2009, 11:12 AM
I have a 12 footer that I load a skid steer in and it does just fine. I always back my equipment on my trailers anyways, so it's no big deal for me. Oh and I paid $5000 for it new, so that is a good deal for that trailer. As long as you have a gooseneck and a way to load it. It looks to me like it might be too tall for a skid steer to load.

CALandscapes
03-26-2009, 11:17 AM
You can load a machine into that trailer using the ramps; you're just going to have to back it in and be sure that nothing but a bucket is attached. And be CAREFUL

Petr51488
03-26-2009, 12:48 PM
My god that thing is huge! And for 3k, thats a steal! You could paint it and re-sell it up here for atleast 8k. I'm not sure what they go for used, but if i paid 6k for mine, im sure their up there. Looks like a bit overkill though lol. You sure your truck can handle it? those things add up quick. That thing weighs atleast 6k empty.

Lakewlc
03-26-2009, 03:02 PM
thats a sweet trailer... go for it

Ben's Landscape
03-26-2009, 05:19 PM
I would say go for it!! with the trailer being a goose neck it would be easyer to drive and handle. Atleast with the sides being that high you don't have to worry about anyone seing your equipment!! Keep us posted!!

Gravel Rat
03-26-2009, 05:59 PM
That is a pretty good deal for a trailer that size but it is too big for your truck even for a dually.

Petr51488
03-26-2009, 06:36 PM
I would say go for it!! with the trailer being a goose neck it would be easyer to drive and handle. Atleast with the sides being that high you don't have to worry about anyone seing your equipment!! Keep us posted!!

yea, you could block a whole shop with that thing too lol

CALandscapes
03-26-2009, 06:48 PM
That is a pretty good deal for a trailer that size but it is too big for your truck even for a dually.

I disagree. When we hauled debris after Katrina, we had a similar trailer (same size, gvwr, etc.), and used a Dodge 2500 diesel. There were about 50 other guys hauling under the same contract, about 60% of them ran 3/4 tons, while the rest used one tons. I don't recall seeing anyone running anything larger than a one ton dually.

The only catch is that you're "supposed" (and I used this term loosely) to hold a CDL when driving anything over I believe 28k gvwr, the 20k trailer + a 10k = 30k, which is over CDL. One of the downfalls of a trailer that large is that it attracts attention, and the state troopers (especially those near the dump sites) tend to keep an eye out for them...

pjtrailerguy
03-26-2009, 06:55 PM
it is too big for your truck but who cares for that kind of money! that thing would cost around 14000 brand new.

Duffster
03-26-2009, 11:20 PM
I disagree. When we hauled debris after Katrina, we had a similar trailer (same size, gvwr, etc.), and used a Dodge 2500 diesel. There were about 50 other guys hauling under the same contract, about 60% of them ran 3/4 tons, while the rest used one tons. I don't recall seeing anyone running anything larger than a one ton dually.

The only catch is that you're "supposed" (and I used this term loosely) to hold a CDL when driving anything over I believe 28k gvwr, the 20k trailer + a 10k = 30k, which is over CDL. One of the downfalls of a trailer that large is that it attracts attention, and the state troopers (especially those near the dump sites) tend to keep an eye out for them...

Over 26k if the trailer is over 10k

Gravel Rat
03-26-2009, 11:33 PM
A 3/4 ton may pull it but no way you can use the trailer to max capacity.

The price you can't beat thou :drinkup:

Duffster
03-27-2009, 12:03 AM
A 3/4 ton may pull it but no way you can use the trailer to max capacity.


You can if it is loaded properly

We typically get~16-17k on a 20k goose hauling big squares of hay

Gravel Rat
03-27-2009, 01:41 AM
You can't get a load of debris loaded evenly I should know I have been in the junk removal business for 15 years. I also used to run rolloff truck with 40 yard bins.

For one the tare weight on the trailer is too high with those sides are tall as a house. If it had 4 foot sides it would be better you can heap the load up in the center.

For the price buy the trailer anyways you can modify it afterwards.

Lawnworks
03-28-2009, 05:42 PM
I am wondering how you can justify the purchase? It is a great deal... you could probably buy it and sell it and make more money doing that than you would using the thing. For me, it usually pencils out to hire a tandem to do my haul-offs and bring me my topsoil, mulch, etc. Plus, if you plan on using it for haul-offs, do you have a place for the spoils? Do you have a hook-up on topsoil? I pay $175 a tandem for topsoil, and $100 a tandem for haul-offs.

ProTouch Groundscapes
03-30-2009, 08:59 AM
for 3500 bucks, you could easily make some money doing haul-offs or contracting deliveries with that thing. slap some airbags on your truck and it would look bad either. your going to wear your all terrains out in no time though. are they E range?

Gravel Rat
03-30-2009, 08:12 PM
It doesn't matter what kind of tire you have the rubber is going to peal off like cheap toilet paper. A truck with a 6.4 and srw the back drive tires will be straining pretty good.

CALandscapes
03-30-2009, 10:27 PM
Jacob, did you get the trailer?

TXNSLighting
03-30-2009, 10:47 PM
It doesn't matter what kind of tire you have the rubber is going to peal off like cheap toilet paper. A truck with a 6.4 and srw the back drive tires will be straining pretty good.

Wow, youve never driven a 6.4 huh? It will be like nothin to it.

KrayzKajun
03-30-2009, 10:51 PM
Jacob, did you get the trailer?

figured i could spend my money on something more useful!

Lawnworks
03-30-2009, 11:02 PM
figured i could spend my money on something more useful!

You don't think you could make an easy profit by re-selling? Did you check ebay? You can check completed items and see what it would sell for. That way you can be sure of a profit. Might be an easy $1500.

hosejockey2002
03-31-2009, 12:30 AM
I am wondering how you can justify the purchase? It is a great deal... you could probably buy it and sell it and make more money doing that than you would using the thing. For me, it usually pencils out to hire a tandem to do my haul-offs and bring me my topsoil, mulch, etc. Plus, if you plan on using it for haul-offs, do you have a place for the spoils? Do you have a hook-up on topsoil? I pay $175 a tandem for topsoil, and $100 a tandem for haul-offs.

If by tandem you mean tandem axle dump truck, the truck and trailer in question won't move anywhere near the weight of a tandem dump truck. Those typically can carry around 15 tons, where the OP's combo will strain with just 5 tons in the trailer.

Lawnworks
03-31-2009, 06:40 AM
If by tandem you mean tandem axle dump truck, the truck and trailer in question won't move anywhere near the weight of a tandem dump truck. Those typically can carry around 15 tons, where the OP's combo will strain with just 5 tons in the trailer.

I meant tandem dump truck as in subbing out hauling materials.

bobbyr
04-09-2009, 10:00 AM
if she wanted 5000 and you offerd 3500 and she accepted did'nt you basicaly allready kind of say i'll buy it when you made her a offer for less than what she was asking? the trailer you showed in the pics. looks to me like you could turn it and make a profit anyway buy blast it and paint it sell it if you can't use it

nnj18
04-09-2009, 12:46 PM
dude I would've bought it and resold it for $7500....:hammerhead:

Lawnworks
04-09-2009, 10:51 PM
dude I would've bought it and resold it for $7500....:hammerhead:

Cash is king!! Gotta have it in the first place though.

Junior M
04-09-2009, 10:53 PM
Cash is king!! Gotta have it in the first place though.
exactly.......

and it takes money to fix it up...

bobbyr
04-09-2009, 10:55 PM
that's true but if you make an offer to buy something from someone for a lower price than they are asking you should have the money to pay for it just in case they accept

Lawnworks
04-09-2009, 11:12 PM
that's true but if you make an offer to buy something from someone for a lower price than they are asking you should have the money to pay for it just in case they accept

We don't know how he phrased it though. He could have phrased it as, "Would you accept an offer such as $3500." But I see what you are saying.

ProTouch Groundscapes
04-09-2009, 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by Gravel Rat View Post
It doesn't matter what kind of tire you have the rubber is going to peal off like cheap toilet paper. A truck with a 6.4 and srw the back drive tires will be straining pretty good.

Wow, youve never driven a 6.4 huh? It will be like nothin to it.


i think he meant that with a powerful diesel and only srw pulling a heavy trailer it would burn up the tires pretty quickly.

T.Brandon
04-09-2009, 11:30 PM
Buy it!! It's a steal!

CALandscapes
04-09-2009, 11:57 PM
Jacob,

Is that trailer still for sale?

If it is, please PM me the seller's info; I'm considering buying it to hang onto in case we get a storm this hurricane season...

-Chase

Petr51488
04-10-2009, 12:44 AM
dude I would've bought it and resold it for $7500....:hammerhead:

Trailers are ALOT cheaper down south then they are up here. You may get 7500 for it up here, but not down there.