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AI Inc
03-26-2009, 02:57 PM
When you guys call dig safe ( or whatever locating service is called in your area ) do you have to premark excavation area with white flags? They started it around here about 3 yrs ago. What a PITA
Mike Leary
03-26-2009, 03:00 PM
When you guys call dig safe ( or whatever locating service is called in your area ) do you have to premark excavation area with white flags? They started it around here about 3 yrs ago. What a PITA
Nope, but I make sure I'm there.
irritation
03-26-2009, 03:00 PM
No and don't give them any ideas.
irritation
03-26-2009, 03:02 PM
Nope, but I make sure I'm there.
Long trip to Wa. from Az.
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 03:03 PM
Starting this yr , digsafe new phone # is 811 , not sure if thats nationwide.
grandview (2006)
03-26-2009, 03:09 PM
They mark the lines for your protection .And I believe it's a 3 ft circle from the flag
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 03:10 PM
They mark the lines for your protection .And I believe it's a 3 ft circle from the flag
Not a circle, 18" to either side of flag for the whole run.
unit28
03-26-2009, 03:11 PM
No, they just ask if it is marked in white already.
And they could care less if you ran paralell or in the same trench.
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 03:13 PM
No, they just ask if it is marked in white already.
And they could care less if you ran paralell or in the same trench.
If it isnt , do ya lie?
irritation
03-26-2009, 03:14 PM
They mark the lines for your protection .And I believe it's a 3 ft circle from the flag
Only takes a Mexican mowing crew to ruin your day.:hammerhead:
unit28
03-26-2009, 03:14 PM
no, just throw some coin....LOl
no I have never lied. I have always , evertime been asked about pre-marked. And everytime I told them no, and they still marked the area utilities...even the neighbors.
Mike Leary
03-26-2009, 03:15 PM
Long trip to Wa. from Az.
It was meant as a suggestion, I forgot there's no contractors on this site.
Dripit good
03-26-2009, 03:17 PM
When you guys call dig safe ( or whatever locating service is called in your area ) do you have to premark excavation area with white flags? They started it around here about 3 yrs ago. What a PITA
That would be a pain. They don't make you do that here.
Here it's called Miss Dig.
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 03:19 PM
It is a PITA , I called one in a little while ago . Was debating driving down there , but realy not in the mood.
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 03:20 PM
That would be a pain. They don't make you do that here.
Here it's called Miss Dig.
So is Miss Dig 811 this yr?
Dripit good
03-26-2009, 03:23 PM
So is Miss Dig 811 this yr?
Nope ~ it's (800) 482-7171
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 03:24 PM
Ours ( Maine , NH , VT , Mass and RI ) used to be 1888 digsafe , now its 811.
irritation
03-26-2009, 03:31 PM
Yep, 811 here.
Dripit good
03-26-2009, 03:36 PM
Sweet.....this old dog just tried 811 and got Miss Dig! :laugh:
Gota love new stuff. Thanks! :drinkup:
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 03:40 PM
Sweet.....this old dog just tried 811 and got Miss Dig! :laugh:
Gota love new stuff. Thanks! :drinkup:
Rock on brother.:clapping:
TRILAWNCARE
03-26-2009, 03:40 PM
Some call it "One Call"
unit28
03-26-2009, 04:12 PM
CALL BEFORE YOU DIG. IT'S THE LAW!
Call 811 to Know What’s Below!
You only need to make one free, easy call to get your utility lines marked and help protect you from injury and expense from accidental contact with buried utility cable. Easy to remember, 811 is a new federally mandated national “Call Before You Dig” number that avoids confusion.
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If you don't mark the area or call them, is it a Federal offense?
And from what I gather if you don't have the area marked that you're digging, {in white}, then they mark the whole lot..kinda what I needed them to do anyway....oops
AI Inc
03-26-2009, 04:24 PM
And from what I gather if you don't have the area marked that you're digging, {in white}, then they mark the whole lot..kinda what I needed them to do anyway....oops
Thats kinda the way I always looked at it.
Wet_Boots
03-26-2009, 04:34 PM
Marking accuracy can vary, of course.
TRILAWNCARE
03-26-2009, 04:39 PM
Marking accuracy can vary, of course.
From the one call web site.
"18 inch Tolerance Zone on each side of the buried facility. Excavators should try to avoid digging in this tolerance zone. If your plans demand that you must excavate in the tolerance zone, Iowa law requires that the buried facility within that tolerance zone be exposed. You expose the buried facility by hand digging with extreme caution. You must not use any type of power equipment to expose a buried facility within the tolerance zone (vacuum excavation is the only accepted means of exposing a buried facility in the tolerance zone other than hand digging). Keep in mind that the 18 inches is to be measured from both sides of the buried facility (18 inches on either side of a 4 inch facility requires a 40 inch tolerance zone – refer to chart). If you must excavate within the tolerance zone it is a good idea to call the operator of the buried facility (i.e.: gas & electric utility company, telephone company, etc.) to verify the size/diameter of the facility in question."
grandview (2006)
03-26-2009, 04:46 PM
From dig safely NY
Pre-marking with White Paint (See 753-3.2(b))
The use of White Paint to delineate a work area is encouraged. It is required when necessary to adequately identify the work site (i.e. the exact location, dimensions, etc. cannot be verbalized). This practice helps locators avoid marking where not necessary while assuring the excavation site does get marked properly. White is the industry standard for this purpose and is used to avoid confusion with other underground facility designations. Chalk based paint is advised since it will dissipate quicker with rain, etc. Take care that the white marks will not be confused with traffic or pedestrian control marks. For a small or single (ex: tree planting) excavation of known dimensions, delineate the exact area with dots, dashes, a continuous line, or white stake(s). For larger excavations, use intervals whereby each mark can be seen from the previous one.
http://www.digsafelynewyork.com/
irritation
03-26-2009, 04:56 PM
I just tell them to mark the entire property.
DanaMac
03-26-2009, 05:04 PM
I think ours is now 811 as well. I tell them to mark the entire property. No matter how small of an area we may work in. And usually nobody comes out for water or electricity anyway.
Mike Leary
03-26-2009, 05:37 PM
Hitting fibre optic and drain fields are the most fun. :dizzy:
Wet_Boots
03-26-2009, 05:51 PM
Like anyone marks drain fields.
Mike Leary
03-26-2009, 05:53 PM
Like anyone marks drain fields.
Most drain field as-builts I've seen were drawn on napkins, with ketchup stains.
irritation
03-26-2009, 05:59 PM
That's why you should plow pipe in. Takes years to know a drain tile was hit.
mtg97
03-26-2009, 06:22 PM
its 811 here in pa
HokieAg07
03-26-2009, 09:45 PM
Dont have to here but depending on the job I may mark. Either way I usually get a phone call asking to clarify...
DanaMac
03-27-2009, 10:22 AM
Here is a dilemma I've thought about over the years. I never know what we'll find on a service call. Don't know if there will be digging or not. I have hit and cut coax tv cable before while just digging a sprinkler head up. So should I call and give the locators 15-25 addresses a day? Or just deal with it when I hit it. For the most part we fix tv coax cable if we hit it. But I have run into phone as well. There are no depth requirements here for those two.
Kiril
03-27-2009, 10:27 AM
Here is a dilemma I've thought about over the years. I never know what we'll find on a service call. Don't know if there will be digging or not. I have hit and cut coax tv cable before while just digging a sprinkler head up. So should I call and give the locators 15-25 addresses a day? Or just deal with it when I hit it. For the most part we fix tv coax cable if we hit it. But I have run into phone as well. There are no depth requirements here for those two.
I agree. It is f'n stoopid to call for a locate when you are digging less than a foot.
Wet_Boots
03-27-2009, 10:29 AM
I don't run into shallow phone lines, thank goodness. They all seem to be in those "tri-party" runs of phone, electric, and cable.
Mike Leary
03-27-2009, 10:41 AM
On new construction up north, everything goes into conduit, which sure saves us down the road, though a inattentive trencher operator can sure hit the shallow phone and fiber optic lines in existing residences. Fiber optic is the worst to hit. :dizzy:
unit28
03-27-2009, 10:49 AM
I hit car parts and beer cans
zman9119
03-27-2009, 01:59 PM
811 is national. It will automatically direct you to your states \ regions one call center.
http://www.call811.com/
Wet_Boots
03-27-2009, 02:11 PM
shipping and handling charges may apply
AI Inc
03-27-2009, 03:14 PM
I don't run into shallow phone lines, thank goodness. They all seem to be in those "tri-party" runs of phone, electric, and cable.
Town I work out of , during the 80,s , cable was installed so high they wouldnt even bother marking it. They used to tell you " just dig, its cheaper for us to repair 1 out of 5 then to mark all 5 " They have since been bought out by comcast.
Wet_Boots
03-27-2009, 03:35 PM
Early 80's additions of cable were interesting. I know some towns actually hired "earth-saw" trenching, and laid the cable under the streets in some subdivisions.
AI Inc
03-27-2009, 03:40 PM
Here they were confused and thought that undergrass meant underground. I know what the utilities will be like from when the house was built.
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