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Neil M
03-27-2009, 07:31 PM
My subdivision has about 20acres of common area that we have cut. I'm thinking of putting in a bid, but would like some input on pricing. I'm looking at about $400-$500 a cut. do you guys charge a reduced rate per acre because no travel time. Also, how long would it take with a 61" scag tt. any input would be great.

lawnboy2068
03-27-2009, 07:47 PM
My subdivision has about 20acres of common area that we have cut. I'm thinking of putting in a bid, but would like some input on pricing. I'm looking at about $400-$500 a cut. do you guys charge a reduced rate per acre because no travel time. Also, how long would it take with a 61" scag tt. any input would be great.

I am not bashing here but I think that you need to re-think your numbers. $500.00/20 acres is only $25.00/acre. Yes we reduce prices but that is a little much. We don't even cut a 1/4 acre house for $25.00. I would say on the low side $60.00/acre, but this also depends on what your area is getting for this type of work.

Our 72" groundmaster can cut about 10 acres a day so a 61" Scag will be close to that, maybe 8 acres a day. So it will take you 2.5 days to cut this without trimming. So by your pricing you will be making about $200.00 a day. If you can pay your bills and live your life on this then by all means charge that amount. But I'll say that your numbers are a bit low. I would double that number and then some. I would be at least $1200.00 if not $1400.00 for this job.

Think about it some more and then make your decision.

James

KrayzKajun
03-27-2009, 07:51 PM
I am not bashing here but I think that you need to re-think your numbers. $500.00/20 acres is only $25.00/acre. Yes we reduce prices but that is a little much. We don't even cut a 1/4 acre house for $25.00. I would say on the low side $60.00/acre, but this also depends on what your area is getting for this type of work.

Our 72" groundmaster can cut about 10 acres a day so a 61" Scag will be close to that, maybe 8 acres a day. So it will take you 2.5 days to cut this without trimming. So by your pricing you will be making about $200.00 a day. If you can pay your bills and live your life on this then by all means charge that amount. But I'll say that your numbers are a bit low. I would double that number and then some. I would be at least $1200.00 if not $1400.00 for this job.

Think about it some more and then make your decision.

James

i agree!!!!:clapping:

topsites
03-27-2009, 07:52 PM
I do agree that $4-500 sounds a bit marginal.

johnnybravo8802
03-27-2009, 07:56 PM
I am not bashing here but I think that you need to re-think your numbers. $500.00/20 acres is only $25.00/acre. Yes we reduce prices but that is a little much. We don't even cut a 1/4 acre house for $25.00. I would say on the low side $60.00/acre, but this also depends on what your area is getting for this type of work.

Our 72" groundmaster can cut about 10 acres a day so a 61" Scag will be close to that, maybe 8 acres a day. So it will take you 2.5 days to cut this without trimming. So by your pricing you will be making about $200.00 a day. If you can pay your bills and live your life on this then by all means charge that amount. But I'll say that your numbers are a bit low. I would double that number and then some. I would be at least $1200.00 if not $1400.00 for this job.

Think about it some more and then make your decision.

James
I don't agree with these numbers either. I mow a 25-30 acre Solo plant with my 61" TT in 10 hours and we charge $1200 per cut but it's a lot more work than mowing common areas-tons of edging and weedeating. I don't think they will be willing to pay $1200-1400 per cut for common areas. Most HOA's are really tight. They wouldn't pay that in Ga., but I do agree about areas being different.

P.I.L.C.
03-27-2009, 08:02 PM
I can mow about 2.25 acreas an hour with my 60. I figure I'm mowing at about 5mph with 80% efficiency for overlap. I try to get about 55 per acre depending on how much trimming we have to do.

Neil M
03-27-2009, 08:02 PM
I thought that that seemed low thats why I haven't bid it before. I'll have to check with the person that keeps the books for the subdivision. I thought that they only paid out about $13000.00 for the year, which comes out to $500 per cut on a 26 cut year. Is this why HOA's suck.

Albery's Lawn & Tractor
03-27-2009, 08:22 PM
Only 8 acres a day!! You cant be searious. I can cut our land here 7 acres in just over 2.5 hours with my 260Z and I have several obstacles. His mower should easily average 2 acres per hour. Price seems a little low but not too much for here. Around here if I bid a property that size at $1,400 I'd be laughed out of town. My bid would be in the $7-800 range. With you and one helper this should only be a 1 day job.

I am not bashing here but I think that you need to re-think your numbers. $500.00/20 acres is only $25.00/acre. Yes we reduce prices but that is a little much. We don't even cut a 1/4 acre house for $25.00. I would say on the low side $60.00/acre, but this also depends on what your area is getting for this type of work.

Our 72" groundmaster can cut about 10 acres a day so a 61" Scag will be close to that, maybe 8 acres a day. So it will take you 2.5 days to cut this without trimming. So by your pricing you will be making about $200.00 a day. If you can pay your bills and live your life on this then by all means charge that amount. But I'll say that your numbers are a bit low. I would double that number and then some. I would be at least $1200.00 if not $1400.00 for this job.

Think about it some more and then make your decision.

James

kaferhaus
03-27-2009, 08:23 PM
I thought that that seemed low thats why I haven't bid it before. I'll have to check with the person that keeps the books for the subdivision. I thought that they only paid out about $13000.00 for the year, which comes out to $500 per cut on a 26 cut year. Is this why HOA's suck.

I'd not do it for that.... if it's really "easy" $45 an acre would be my minimum. And yes HOAs do usually "suck". But at least it's not a bunch of patio homes with 50 little retired "master gardeners" standing around telling you what to do.... We did one of those for one season and even though I shut them up and shooed them inside on the very first time we cut it I didn't even bid it the next year.... and it changes hands every year... it's big joke around here as to which LCO is gonna get sucked into it next.

tlc23
03-27-2009, 08:28 PM
Is it all open area? How much trimming and edging?

WREBELMACHINE
03-27-2009, 08:31 PM
I wish things were still bringing $25+ acre here! I lost a bid today on 26acres! The bid I kid you not went for $76 a cut! What a idiot!

Neil M
03-27-2009, 08:45 PM
wide open cutting

lawnboy2068
03-27-2009, 08:46 PM
Only 8 acres a day!! You cant be serious. I can cut our land here 7 acres in just over 2.5 hours with my 260Z and I have several obstacles. His mower should easily average 2 acres per hour. Price seems a little low but not too much for here. Around here if I bid a property that size at $1,400 I'd be laughed out of town. My bid would be in the $7-800 range. With you and one helper this should only be a 1 day job.

I am serious. It all depends on the type of cutting that you are doing. Toro states 4 acres an hour at 9 mph but that is on a wide open area in perfect conditions. Never will happen around here, at least not what we do. We average 10 to 12 acres a day with obstacles. Maybe a little higher on some ball fields but not by much if you want a very good cut with 90% consistency. I still say that $500.00 is cheep and I would stick to my numbers of $1200 to $1400 per cut or $60 to $70 per acre. If you are desperate than $55 per acre.

lifetree
03-27-2009, 09:14 PM
... I would say on the low side $60.00/acre ... I would be at least $1200.00 if not $1400.00 for this job. ...

I think that's too much ... that job should be about $ $ 700 - $ 800 !!

tlc23
03-27-2009, 09:24 PM
I think that's too much ... that job should be about $ $ 700 - $ 800 !!

I agree. I would do it for 700 since it's open mowing.

Herrick
03-27-2009, 09:42 PM
I just lost a bid here for 32 acres of school grounds... 2 schools, total of 4 ball diamonds, 2 soccer fields, plus playgrounds, etc... really wide open. Winning bid was $645 a cut, or just over $20 an acre. Lost another recently that went for just over $900/cut for 34 acres of detention basins and other city owned properties...

I'm glad some of you can get $60-100 an acre, I really am. No way I can do that here.

Your best bet is to figure up your price... how long will it take you, how much do you charge an hour? Then see if you can find out what they've been paying and see if you can even compete. If you're in the ballpark, it may be worth going after, and maybe even knocking some more off if it's close and you really want/need it.

meets1
03-27-2009, 10:28 PM
In my area, 12 - 15 an acre is going rate. Had to learn to adjust price and lean up a bit to compete with the smaller boz.

meets1
03-27-2009, 10:29 PM
PILC - do work in sioux falls?