Forestry Suppliers Spring catalog

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

My favorite perusing catalog. Here is the item I thought had the most practical application. I'm always looking for ways to get my hands free. (The chest bound fold down notebook). Lots of good stuff. Not sure on the pricing being all that great. They have a nice looking soil core sampler for 64.00? Lots of surveying and distance measuring stuff.

I thought of a tool I'd like to find. Does this exist? I'm looking for a detection tool in which you can mount a small box with temporary tape to the inside of a garage. Go to the outside with a detector and be able to mark the exact spot on the outside where that box is located on the inside. Would make for perfect wire drills every time. I'm coming up with a smaller lower cost pigtail to allow outside installation of the receiver plug in. It will only be available in 12 station controller size but that is 80% of my sales anyway. I need to make the connection as fast as possible and being able to do a quick where to drill measurement is key.

http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/icat/SS09/full.asp?page=10

[Kiril]

My favorite perusing catalog. Here is the item I thought had the most practical application. I'm always looking for ways to get my hands free. (The chest bound fold down notebook). Lots of good stuff. Not sure on the pricing being all that great. They have a nice looking soil core sampler for 64.00? Lots of surveying and distance measuring stuff.

I thought of a tool I'd like to find. Does this exist? I'm looking for a detection tool in which you can mount a small box with temporary tape to the inside of a garage. Go to the outside with a detector and be able to mark the exact spot on the outside where that box is located on the inside. Would make for perfect wire drills every time. I'm coming up with a smaller lower cost pigtail to allow outside installation of the receiver plug in. It will only be available in 12 station controller size but that is 80% of my sales anyway. I need to make the connection as fast as possible and being able to do a quick where to drill measurement is key.

http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/icat/SS09/full.asp?page=10

Yea, I'm looking at picking up some new items as well this year.

Have you tried a stud finder for your wire problem? I've got some drilling to do through stucco, maybe I will see it that will work?

[Wet_Boots]

Why can't you use a 521, or similar?

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Yea, I'm looking at picking up some new items as well this year.

Have you tried a stud finder for your wire problem? I've got some drilling to do through stucco, maybe I will see it that will work?

Its not finding a stud its trying to come in just below or inside the controller. Being exact is critical. Not sure that a 521 would be accurate enough plus setting that up would be too timely. A magnet detector? Put a magnet on one side and detect it from the outside?

[Wet_Boots]

Experiment with a 521 and a solenoid coil. You should be able to create a tight 'beam' you can pinpoint through a wall.

Whatever you do will be region-specific, I think. Outdoor controllers here, basement controllers there, garage controllers somewhere else.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Experiment with a 521 and a solenoid coil. You should be able to create a tight 'beam' you can pinpoint through a wall.

I'll consider this. More suggestions? Got to be a better way to do it or a tool.

[Wet_Boots]

I would just drill from inside to outside from a garage, changing drill bits as necessary.

[Kiril]

http://www.zircon.com/products/metal_mt6.html

[Kiril]

I would just drill from inside to outside from a garage, changing drill bits as necessary.

Guess you never drilled stucco heh?

[DanaMac]

I would just drill from inside to outside from a garage, changing drill bits as necessary.

I try to do that. Start with a small bit. But even that will sometimes cause the exterior stucco to crumble.

[DanaMac]

Guess you never drilled stucco heh?

Whoa! are we on the same page or what.

[Kiril]

Whoa! are we on the same page or what.

Yup. It can either crumble or blow out a huge "divot".

I did one last year where I had no choice but to drill inside->out. Blew out a chunk of stucco about the size of my fist for a 3/8 hole.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

http://www.zircon.com/products/metal_mt6.html

That would work. Let me show you the metal to use be right back.

Here we go. Use one of these magna nails. Hammer in the wall and it should work. See any issues?

http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/icat/SS09/full.asp?page=21

[TRILAWNCARE]

They do make such a tool. Thru-wall Locator (http://http://www.thru-wall.co.uk/ind1.htm)

142792


A long 12" drill bit works just as well. And saves the time of having to drill on both sides of the wall. Cheaper too.

142791

[Wet_Boots]

I don't have stucco to deal with, so that's where the regional aspect comes into play. Since I have a valve box next to the foundation, I would simply use the valve box as the access point for wiring in a pigtail.

I do have some old garages with interior wall surfaces like stucco, with mortar spread over metal mesh. Trouble is, they are old enough for the metal mesh to have rusted away.

http://www.thru-wall.co.uk/ind1.htm

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

They do make such a tool. Thru-wall Locator (http://http://www.thru-wall.co.uk/ind1.htm)

142792


A long 12" drill bit works just as well. And saves the time of having to drill on both sides of the wall. Cheaper too.

142791

Missing my point. I think. Your link led nowhere. I know about long drill bits. I'm looking for accuracy. I want to drill and be within an inch of my exit point.

[TRILAWNCARE]

Try this.


www.thru-wall.co.uk/ind1.htm

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

I don't have stucco to deal with, so that's where the regional aspect comes into play. Since I have a valve box next to the foundation, I would simply use the valve box as the access point for wiring in a pigtail.

I do have some old garages with interior wall surfaces like stucco, with mortar spread over metal mesh. Trouble is, they are old enough for the metal mesh to have rusted away.

No 24 volt power. I've done that before though. Just not clean or fast. No guarantee box is there anyway.

[Kiril]

A long 12" drill bit works just as well. And saves the time of having to drill on both sides of the wall. Cheaper too.

Naturally. Problem is when drilling outside->in you are many times drilling blind because there is no way to transfer any reference measurements from inside to outside accurately.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Try this.


www.thru-wall.co.uk/ind1.htm

Thanks...I sent them an e-mail to see if they have a US supplier. I'll get price and details. Seems like an awesome tool to have.

[TRILAWNCARE]

I know what your getting at. It is nice to make sure your not going to hit something on the other side. It is always a crap shoot unless you want to spend a hour with a tape measure trying to figure out where the hole is going to be.

In a congested area this can be difficult, and takes several measurements to get it just right. "Time is money" It would be a great tool to have.

[Wet_Boots]

No 24 volt power. I've done that before though. Just not clean or fast. No guarantee box is there anyway.If I were creating the concept of remote sprinkler operation from scratch, I would include a 24VAC power source in the receiver.

[Kiril]

This is the ideal tool if you can get it to work as a pin point drill marker.

http://www.zircon.com/products/center_ms_i700.html

This allows you to CYA.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Stucco is not my main issue here but it is a problem. I like to drill in the mortar between bricks and avoid the brick.

[Tom Tom]

If I were creating the concept of remote sprinkler operation from scratch, I would include a 24VAC power source in the receiver.

Or just use the extra wire(if there is one) in the valve box as the 24 volt source.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

If I were creating the concept of remote sprinkler operation from scratch, I would include a 24VAC power source in the receiver.

Ifs and Buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

Boots just stick to the basic premise. We have what we have. It is what it is.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Or just use the extra wire(if there is one) in the valve box as the 24 volt source.

Drop this premise please. It starts to develop into a kludge.

[Wet_Boots]

Or just use the extra wire(if there is one) in the valve box as the 24 volt source.And don't forget that earth ground is yet another conductor.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3595/rpzretrofit2.jpg

[TRILAWNCARE]

Where's the unions???? :nono:

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Where's the unions???? :nono:

Screwing over the car companies and the American free enterprise system I'm guessing.

[Wet_Boots]

I run a non-union shop.

[unit28]

Yup. It can either crumble or blow out a huge "divot".

I did one last year where I had no choice but to drill inside->out. Blew out a chunk of stucco about the size of my fist for a 3/8 hole.

Most places I see with stucco are well divoted..or is that divo-ted, divotid.
Smacked with a golf ball, .........yeah that's it.

[Wet_Boots]

Thanks...I sent them an e-mail to see if they have a US supplier. I'll get price and details. Seems like an awesome tool to have.

This useful addition to anyone's toolbox is only available directly from LSdesigns for the price of £39.99 inc VAT plus 3.50 postage and packing. Volume discounts available - please contact our sales teamMaybe you can become the U.S. distributor.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Maybe you can become the U.S. distributor.

I thought about that....briefly 1.44 is the exchange rate. so it becomes a 60.00 tool before markup/tax/shipping. I'll see how quick they respond to an e-mail. If they take a day or two. Forget it. I think Kiril's tool is much more useful and using the maganail may be the answer.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Zircon MT-6 runs 130.00. That Brit made version is starting to look like a good deal now.

[Kiril]

Zircon MT-6 runs 130.00. That Brit made version is starting to look like a good deal now.

The other one I posted is much less, but also less powerful.

[Wet_Boots]

That locator (i700) got poor reviews for lath-and-plaster walls, so I have my doubts on what it could achieve around stucco.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

That locator (i700) got poor reviews for lath-and-plaster walls, so I have my doubts on what it could achieve around stucco.

Ditto....50 more for a tool that works. Still most irrigators aren't going to spring for this. I'll pester those Brits and see what they can provide. They have a volume purchase price so maybe I'll try one and then spring for several and put on Ebay.

[Kiril]

You might try this if you can put your hands on a powerful magnet.

http://www.coolmagnetman.com/magmeter.htm

[Wet_Boots]

Ditto....50 more for a tool that works. Still most irrigators aren't going to spring for this. I'll pester those Brits and see what they can provide. They have a volume purchase price so maybe I'll try one and then spring for several and put on Ebay.I think those eBayers will be too busy bidding on these beauties (http://cgi.ebay.com/TORO-AUTOMATIC-FLO-PRO-SPRINKLER-VALVES-5-NEW-1-INCH_W0QQitemZ150336401675QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item150336401675&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318).

[TRILAWNCARE]

DeepScan® mode doubles the scanning depth to 1 1/2 inches (38 mm) (http://www.zircon.com/products/center_ms_i700.html)

All exterior walls that I've ever dealt with are a lot thicker than 1 1/2 inches. Add in some brick or stucco and........ Well you know.

You should still have a stud finder to make sure you not drilling into a stud or a wire inside the wall. So I think a tool like this would still be a "must have" to complement the thru wall locator.

The performance specs for the Thru wall Locator are 250 mm which converts to 9.8425 inches. That is a pretty thick wall.

I wonder if that includes a 10" solid concrete or brick wall or just low density material like siding, ply-wood, insulation and drywall?

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

http://www.zircon.com/products/metal_mt6.html

I won one of these on Ebay

[ARGOS]

I use the zircon finders all the time. They work great and will work perfect for this application. BTW I bought them new.

[Mike Leary]

I use the zircon finders all the time. They work great and will work perfect for this application. BTW I bought them new.
How cool, never heard of them. :clapping:

[HokieAg07]

I just got my Lincoln Soil Moisture meter from them the other day. Cant wait to play with it, looks like a nice piece...

[irrig8r]

I think those eBayers will be too busy bidding on these beauties (http://cgi.ebay.com/TORO-AUTOMATIC-FLO-PRO-SPRINKLER-VALVES-5-NEW-1-INCH_W0QQitemZ150336401675QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item150336401675&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318).

And not these (http://cgi.ebay.com/SPRINKLITES-ORNAMENTAL-LED-LIGHTED-SPRINKLERS-NEW_W0QQitemZ110371442133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item110371442133&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50)?

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

You know Gregg. I kind of like those....I need a big juicy steak to get my head right.

[Wet_Boots]

Sweet! I want them.

[Mike Leary]

I just got my Lincoln Soil Moisture meter from them the other day. Cant wait to play with it, looks like a nice piece...

A great tool, remember to send them back to Lincoln every year to get the tips replaced; best to have two of them to cross-check performance.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

I got my used Zircon MT-6 on Ebay. Seems to work fine. Waiting on magna nails from forestry supplier and I'll see how accurate one can drill.

Keeping this thread neat the top.

[Mike Leary]

Forestry Suppliers is one of the best companies I've ever dealt with. Cool catalog, too.

[TRILAWNCARE]

I got my used Zircon MT-6 on Ebay. Seems to work fine. Waiting on magna nails from forestry supplier and I'll see how accurate one can drill.

Keeping this thread neat the top.

Any reply from the Thru-Wall locator people???

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Any reply from the Thru-Wall locator people???

No never got one. I'll try again. It seems like they have a useful product but it may be one of those garage companies and I know all about garage companies.