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LAG
04-02-2009, 12:29 PM
Adding mowing to my service this year. Towing a 16' dual axle steel trailer with plywood walls, a Walker bagger, handhelds and grass mulch.

A new 2009 GM pickup is what I am looking at. Will a 1/2 ton with the towing package and a 5.3 be enough truck to lug the trailer around town, or is a 3/4 ton the better choice?

Thanks in advance.

seabee1
04-02-2009, 12:33 PM
it will add a good load to the brake's but if you have electric brake's on the trailer i think you will be fine lag . :usflag:

Rhett
04-02-2009, 02:23 PM
Sure will. You are not even at half your capacity. Trailer brakes would be your friend

MileHigh
04-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Ok here we go.

The half ton will pull that...same gas engines are in half ton and 3/4.

The problem with the half ton, is that it has no weight rating...or GWR.

You will overload that half ton, before putting anything on that sucker...

I went from a triton v-8 f150 to a 6.0 diesel f250...and the 250 is more that TWICE the truck that 150 is.

O, and brakes on both axles on a tandem axle, break away kit, and break controller is all part of the law....obey it.

ChrisGA
04-02-2009, 03:43 PM
If your dead set on that truck deffently get trailer brakes.

But if budget allows I'd get a good diesel truck. Maybe a Chevy or Dodge 2500. That way if your business grows you will have the right truck to tow larger things instead of having to swap or buy another truck. Then add trailer brakes on your current trailer bam your ready to go !

nobagger
04-02-2009, 04:12 PM
IMO there is a huge difference between a 1/2 ton vs. a 3/4 ton. I had a 94 F150 heavy half ton and upgraded to a 3/4 ton and what a difference. Its not just the towing capability, its also the GVWR and CGVWR. Heck, most 1 ton dumps are over loaded with a few yards of mulch in them.....then add a trailer.

LAG
04-02-2009, 06:22 PM
My trailer has brakes on one axle.

Today I test drove a new crew cab Silverado 4x4 1500 with Z71 and it is a much more capable truck then my '99 suburban 1/2 ton 2wd, or so it seems. Then proceeded to drive a new Duramax 2500 which seemed like a monster pullin' machine, which I feel may be more than I need for pulling 3500 lbs, considering the $8000 additional coin needed.

decisions, decisions...

WH401
04-02-2009, 07:55 PM
With the 1500 your going to notice that 3500 lbs back there, with the Duramax you'll constantly be worrying if the trailer is still attached.:laugh:

CALandscapes
04-02-2009, 08:06 PM
The 1/2 ton is MORE than enough truck for the load that you're buying it to pull. The ONLY reason you might consider a 3/4 ton would be if, in the future, you may plan on pulling a larger load. If not, a 1/2 ton will serve you just fine.

Nozzleman
04-02-2009, 08:32 PM
The 1/2 ton is MORE than enough truck for the load that you're buying it to pull. The ONLY reason you might consider a 3/4 ton would be if, in the future, you may plan on pulling a larger load. If not, a 1/2 ton will serve you just fine.


I second that. Also, you don't need a diesel to grow your buisness. A 2500 with a 6.0 gasser will handle whatever you throw at doing landscape work. I did the diesel truck thing and now drive a gasser (Ford V-10). I've never felt I needed more truck. Bottom line is a 3/4 ton will get you the bigger frame, brakes, suspension, and tires rated to handle a heavy load. For most, the diesel is strictly an ego stroker (yes I've stroked my own ego so save the diesel rants).

Now if you intend to only pull what you've stated then the 1/2 ton is more than capable.

IdealLawnCare
04-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Ive had 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton chevy trucks and you will be just fine with the 1/2 ton when pulling 3500 lbs. As long as you have trailer brakes which it sound as if you do on one axel. Some states (like Minnesota) require you to have brakes on both axel at that trailer weight.

Petr51488
04-02-2009, 10:49 PM
Ok here we go.

The half ton will pull that...same gas engines are in half ton and 3/4.

The problem with the half ton, is that it has no weight rating...or GWR.

You will overload that half ton, before putting anything on that sucker...

I went from a triton v-8 f150 to a 6.0 diesel f250...and the 250 is more that TWICE the truck that 150 is.

O, and brakes on both axles on a tandem axle, break away kit, and break controller is all part of the law....obey it.


The 2500hd trucks have 6.0 engines in them not 5.4's. I've also went from 1500 to a 2500 and the difference is night and day. And with the d-max, forget it. You will never want another truck. That truck is solid. Your 2500 will also last alot longer in the long run then the 1500. If it were me, i would go 2500 knowing that you can haul alot if you need to and also the better stability on the road. Oh, and to your original question... Yes you can pull 3500lbs with a 1500 but when business grows, you'll need a bigger truck.

J&R Landscaping
04-02-2009, 11:37 PM
I second that. Also, you don't need a diesel to grow your buisness. A 2500 with a 6.0 gasser will handle whatever you throw at doing landscape work. I did the diesel truck thing and now drive a gasser (Ford V-10). I've never felt I needed more truck. Bottom line is a 3/4 ton will get you the bigger frame, brakes, suspension, and tires rated to handle a heavy load. For most, the diesel is strictly an ego stroker (yes I've stroked my own ego so save the diesel rants).

Now if you intend to only pull what you've stated then the 1/2 ton is more than capable.


Nicely stated! For that small load, a 1/2 ton truck will fit the bill fine.

TXNSLighting
04-03-2009, 12:34 AM
Wy do people think 3500 pounds is so much weight? Can a half ton with a 9k# tow rating pull 3500#'s??? Come on, really people. All you have to do is do 5 min of research on the factorys website...

lawn king
04-03-2009, 07:47 AM
A half ton will do the job, but the 2500 will serve you much better. If you can afford the 2500, price the 3500, you may find they are very close in price.

LAG
04-05-2009, 09:07 PM
3.42 gears in a Sierra 1500 5.3. Ok?

LAG
04-06-2009, 08:20 AM
3.73 is standard gearing for the non-towing version.

I am wondering why GM installs the 3.42 rear end in the towing package?

topsites
04-06-2009, 01:02 PM
Better off with a 10-year old 3/4 ton than a brand new 1/2, especially towing.

DaveVB
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Nobody has said anything about the legalities of pulling that weight with a 1/2 ton. That is what I would look at being a commercial business. DOT is bound to look at you in some states, will you be legal in their eyes?

LAG
04-06-2009, 03:27 PM
Nobody has said anything about the legalities of pulling that weight with a 1/2 ton. That is what I would look at being a commercial business. DOT is bound to look at you in some states, will you be legal in their eyes?

Pulling my 3000 - 3500 lb trailer locally only. 3/4 ton is nice, but for the weight i'm pulling a 1/2 will work fine.

A friend of mine pulls his mowing equipment with an 1/2 ton '07 Silverado but said he ordered the truck with 4.11 gears.

topsites
04-08-2009, 02:40 AM
Pulling my 3000 - 3500 lb trailer locally only. 3/4 ton is nice, but for the weight i'm pulling a 1/2 will work fine.

A friend of mine pulls his mowing equipment with an 1/2 ton '07 Silverado but said he ordered the truck with 4.11 gears.

Don't forget the beefier 3/4 ton's brake systems.
It takes a LONG time for me to stop my trailer with a full 4 thousand pound load,
but it's all good until that one traffic light turns red in the nick of time.

hosejockey2002
04-11-2009, 12:18 AM
Nobody has said anything about the legalities of pulling that weight with a 1/2 ton. That is what I would look at being a commercial business. DOT is bound to look at you in some states, will you be legal in their eyes?

Come on, are you kidding? It's 3500 pounds!! I can pull that much with my wife's Explorer and be perfectly legal (and safe). The DOT won't give a rip unless you are upwards of 10,000.

4.3mudder
04-11-2009, 12:48 AM
I have a 1/2 silverado with the 4,8, and I can tell I have a 16 foot trialer, 2 ztrs, a push, and all the other stuff, I'm pullin around 4000 pounds, and yes a trailer brake will really help.

Grass Happens
04-11-2009, 01:44 AM
If you go for the 2500, look at the 8.1 its gets as good as milage as the 6.0 with wayyyy more power.
Source: My boss has a 2500HD with an 8.1 and a 2500 with a 6.0, the 8.1 gets about 1-2mpg better millage. That's both cruising and towing the S205.

Oh, and IDEAL, I'm coming to steal your Monte. Please leave the keys some where convenient! :)

South Florida Lawns
04-11-2009, 12:58 PM
Trailer brakes help tremendously. You can pull that 16ft no problem with a 1/2 ton. My 1500 Chevy pulls my 14ft enclosed and 16ft open just fine, and its got the V6. I don't win any races but the MPG is good. I have had 9800lbs of dirt on my open trailer which has no brakes on it and I had no problems stopping, just leave yourself plenty of room.

STIHL GUY
04-11-2009, 05:30 PM
we have surge brakes on the boat trailer and they make a huge difference