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JoeyD
04-15-2009, 10:44 AM
A situation arrose yesterday that forced us to call our local building authority and ask some questions. In our conversation some interesting discovieries came about. One had to do with the installation of unlisted products. The inspector told us that if they inspect a Permited project and find that unlisted products (NRTL) were installed that the project would be subject to being flagged. Meaning that they would not allow for pass of final inspection until NRTL Listed products were installed. He also mentioned that should someone contact them regarding an unpermited job, which most in our industry are, and he came out and found unlisted products on the project that he would also red tag that job, forcing the homeowners to rip those products out before the home could ever be resold again. :nono:


So this led us to thinking. With so many imported and unlisted products being sold right now how many people realize they may not only be jeapordizing their name but may also be jeapordizing the future resale of their clients home? How many architects are unknowingly specifying unlisted products on projects due to a sales pitch, not knowing that job may be forced to be pulled out and replaced at the homeowners expense?

It also lead us to think how many of you are losing jobs to competiton who are coming in selling unlisted products as being just as good as your listed products? Now that we know what to do we felt it was worthwhile to pass along that according to our local building inspector you have the right to call in and notify them to the use and installation of unlisted products being installed. They would then go out and flag that project allowing you to finally fight back against these imported and unlisted fixtures and transformers. :clapping:

jshimmin
04-15-2009, 01:39 PM
Based on the latest manufactures list below, who has listed fixtures?

Advantage Lightsource
Altec Lighting
Ark Lighting
Arroyo
Artscape
Atom Lighting
Attraction
Auroralight
Beachside
BK
BQL
Bronzelite
CAST
Corona
Coppermoon
Dabmar
Delta light
DG Lights
Dreamscape Lighting
Eclipse
Encore Lighting
Evening Star
Escort
Froglights
Focus
F/X
Garden Light
Greenlee
Hanover
Heritage Lightworks
Hevi-Lite
Hinkley
Hadco
HK
Hunza
Hydrel
Idaho Wood
In-Lite
Integral
Intense
Intermatic
Johnson Art Studio
Kerr
Kim
Kichler
LightCraft
Lion Lighting
Lubo Lighting
Luma Lighting
Lumascape
Lumiere
Llumitech
Martini
Megabay
Night Orbs
Nightscaping
Night Scenes
OASE
Pinnacle Lights
RSL
RAB
Ruud
Safety Volt (Transformers)
Sea Gull Lighting
Stone Manor Lighting
Sundown Designs
SPJ
Tahoe Lighting
TechLight
Terradek
TRAA
Universal Lighting Systems
Unique
Vista
Vision3
W.A.C.
Winnona

JoeyD
04-15-2009, 02:35 PM
Advantage Lightsource
Altec Lighting
Ark Lighting
Arroyo
Artscape
Atom Lighting
Attraction
Auroralight
Beachside
BK
BQL
Bronzelite
CAST
Corona
Coppermoon
Dabmar
Delta light
DG Lights
Dreamscape Lighting
Eclipse
Encore Lighting
Evening Star
Escort
Froglights
Focus
F/X
Garden Light
Greenlee
Hanover
Heritage Lightworks
Hevi-Lite
Hinkley
Hadco
HK
Hunza
Hydrel
Idaho Wood
In-Lite
Integral
Intense
Intermatic
Johnson Art Studio
Kerr
Kim
Kichler
LightCraft
Lion Lighting
Lubo Lighting
Luma Lighting
Lumascape
Lumiere
Llumitech
Martini
Megabay
Night Orbs
Nightscaping
Night Scenes
OASE
Pinnacle Lights
RSL
RAB
Ruud
Safety Volt (Transformers)
Sea Gull Lighting
Stone Manor Lighting
Sundown Designs
SPJ
Tahoe Lighting
TechLight
Terradek
TRAA
Universal Lighting Systems
Unique Lighting Systems - LISTED w/ ETL
Vista
Vision3
W.A.C.
Winnona

I know we do.....as do a lot of others on this list. Most the importers were not listed on that list.

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
04-15-2009, 06:10 PM
Listings are and have always been critical here in Ontario and Canada...

If you are being paid to install an electrical product it must be appropriately listed for its intended use (this is an often overlooked factor in listings! hence, a transformer that carries a listing for interior applications cannot be used to power a outdoor lighting system) Here we only accept CSA, ULc and cETL listings. Not sure if ARL will ever step up to the Canadian Listings standards or not.

Interestingly enough, a distributor is not prohibited from selling unlisted product! It is only an offense to install it. Strange.

steveparrott
04-17-2009, 08:02 AM
Advantage Lightsource
Altec Lighting
Ark Lighting
Arroyo
Artscape
Atom Lighting
Attraction
Auroralight
Beachside
BK
BQL
Bronzelite
CAST - all products UL listed
Corona
Coppermoon
Dabmar
Delta light
DG Lights
Dreamscape Lighting
Eclipse
Encore Lighting
Evening Star
Escort
Froglights
Focus
F/X
Garden Light
Greenlee
Hanover
Heritage Lightworks
Hevi-Lite
Hinkley
Hadco
HK
Hunza
Hydrel
Idaho Wood
In-Lite
Integral
Intense
Intermatic
Johnson Art Studio
Kerr
Kim
Kichler
LightCraft
Lion Lighting
Lubo Lighting
Luma Lighting
Lumascape
Lumiere
Llumitech
Martini
Megabay
Night Orbs
Nightscaping
Night Scenes
OASE
Pinnacle Lights
RSL
RAB
Ruud
Safety Volt (Transformers)
Sea Gull Lighting
Stone Manor Lighting
Sundown Designs
SPJ
Tahoe Lighting
TechLight
Terradek
TRAA
Universal Lighting Systems
Unique Lighting Systems - LISTED w/ ETL
Vista
Vision3
W.A.C.
Winnona

S&MLL
04-19-2009, 01:05 PM
Hey how come Malibu isn't on that list?

Thats all I install

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
04-19-2009, 02:54 PM
That list was gleaned from the thread "Manufacturers Compendium" which I started over a year ago. It was intended to list all known manufacturers of Pro-Grade LV lighting components. Malibu is not it for obvious reasons!