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1999frontier
04-15-2009, 03:12 PM
I saw a thread on Zyosia grass. Lets see some Bermuda.

2brothersyardcare
04-15-2009, 05:08 PM
im in fl for vacation with my grandparents and i want to see nice bermuda

dave k
04-17-2009, 03:18 PM
Here are some pics of my old home reeled with a Locke C 125. It is 419 Bermuda and the turf was sanded with riversand.

KrayzKajun
04-17-2009, 03:23 PM
beautiful house

grass2cash
04-17-2009, 03:41 PM
Very nice! Just lose the lawn chair.

benjammin
04-17-2009, 03:45 PM
beautiful yard

fixed

That front door of the house looks odd. Can't quit put my finger on it but something up those doors flush with brick just looks weird.

And yeah, what the f is with the lawn chair?!?!

Kennedy Landscaping
04-17-2009, 03:56 PM
That lawn looks like freakin carpet! Very nice!

dave k
04-17-2009, 04:48 PM
fixed

That front door of the house looks odd. Can't quit put my finger on it but something up those doors flush with brick just looks weird.

And yeah, what the f is with the lawn chair?!?!

House is history and so is the chair, front doors are double, maybe that is what looked weird, they aren't flush with the brick, must be the angle of pic.
I have the home now with the Emerald Zoysia, under the Zoysia thread, I prefer the Bermuda, just can't get use to the Emerald.

Junior M
04-17-2009, 04:58 PM
I'll have to get some pics of a local HOA's bermuda, talk about awesome looking..

cgaengineer
06-09-2009, 10:01 AM
Here are mine...Cut with TruCut reel with roller at 1/2"

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/DSC_5128_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/DSC_5122_sm.jpg

cgaengineer
06-09-2009, 10:17 AM
Thank you...

tstutz
06-09-2009, 06:57 PM
wow those are nice houses and beautiful yards

JShe8918
06-10-2009, 02:45 PM
Well i like the bermuda alot but i don't like that it doesn't STRIPE!!!!!! i want to stripe the heck out of my yard. I am re-sodding next week and still battling what to go with. Lets see some more bermuda guys and gals.

JShe8918
06-10-2009, 02:46 PM
Here are some pics of my old home reeled with a Locke C 125. It is 419 Bermuda and the turf was sanded with riversand.

Hey dave do you like the bermuda that you had or do you like the zoysia that you have now? I am going back and forth
*trucewhiteflag*

cgaengineer
06-10-2009, 03:28 PM
Hey dave do you like the bermuda that you had or do you like the zoysia that you have now? I am going back and forth
*trucewhiteflag*

I think Dave is going to tell you he prefers bermuda, he will chime in soon. I know Dave outside forum and he has told me several times before that if he had it to do all over again it would be bermuda.

dave k
06-10-2009, 07:06 PM
Hey dave do you like the bermuda that you had or do you like the zoysia that you have now? I am going back and forth
*trucewhiteflag*
I like the Bermuda better since I'm used to it and liked cutting it real short, 1/2".
I hated the seed heads and also its excessive growth, dollar spot etc.
I am posting pictures of my Emerald that is recovering from grubs/fungus, it should be fully recovered by years end.
I think Zoysia is the way to go but use a different type, like Myers or one of the other type's. Some have wide blades and other have fine blades like the Emerald. The Zoysia's do grow very slowly so recovery from whatever will take longer! What ever Bermuda you buy make sure it's "Certified" Greg Norman turf Bermuda is good, Tiftsport is good and you can buy it 10 years from now and you will get the same turf because its genetically made.
If your buy bermuda that isn't certified, you can get anything and they will say its 419. The same is true now for the Emerald Zoysia, just can't win for loosing. Good luck
Do a good prep work before you sod, put in irrigation to if you can!

dave k
06-10-2009, 07:11 PM
Well i like the bermuda alot but i don't like that it doesn't STRIPE!!!!!! i want to stripe the heck out of my yard. I am re-sodding next week and still battling what to go with. Lets see some more bermuda guys and gals.


It stipes, just watch the Brave's tonight, the TED has 419 and is cut at 3/4".
A few years ago they had TiftsSport but went back with 419. If you go to Tiftsport web site you will see what it looks like, The Georgia's Governor's Mansion is sodded with Tiftsport sod.

tbettis
06-10-2009, 09:11 PM
dave... could you possiby email or post your secret to getting that lawn to look like that. i have a bermuda 419 lawn and its in pretty good shape but would like to know your fertilizer type to your irrigation schedule.. my email is tellyabettis@msn.com. whats the secret of the river sand. just email me your tactics. thanks

tbettis
06-10-2009, 09:12 PM
also i have the tifsport not the 419..sorry

dave k
06-11-2009, 06:07 PM
Will do try and get it to you tomorrow
Dave

cgaengineer
06-11-2009, 06:17 PM
dave... could you possiby email or post your secret to getting that lawn to look like that. i have a bermuda 419 lawn and its in pretty good shape but would like to know your fertilizer type to your irrigation schedule.. my email is tellyabettis@msn.com. whats the secret of the river sand. just email me your tactics. thanks

For my lawn I have no irrigation, topdressed with manure in the spring and 3 timed applications of fertilizer and a topdressing of sand a few weeks ago to level the lawn. The manure helped add organics to the soil as I had core aerated a few weeks prior to application, the sand helped level the lawn and also add something lighter to clay soils.

By far the best improvement to lawn quality is the addition of my reel mower.

After that its nothing but time, time and more time spent working in the lawn.

cgaengineer
06-11-2009, 06:29 PM
And Dave's advice and assistance! Thanks Dave for coming over with your Locke and showing me how low it should be cut!!

JShe8918
06-11-2009, 07:49 PM
Hey i ordered 15 pallets of 419 in mini rolls with 604 sq. ft. per pallet. I want it too look that good dave... Could you email me your chemical program along with sanding and stuff like you are for the other guy. I would really appreciate it.. jonathansheehan818@mac.com MY email... thanks you guys. I am very excited... irrigation is going down on monday morning hopefully then sod that evening or tuesday in the AM.... appraiser is coming in one day next week not sure when and i really hope that he or she doesn't come in on monday or tuesday or i am screwed....

IRRITECH
06-11-2009, 09:16 PM
1) Exmark 36 @ 2"
2) Exmark 36 @ 2.5"
3)Exmark 36 @ 2.5"

cgaengineer
06-11-2009, 09:31 PM
Showed up by a rotary mower!!
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dave k
06-11-2009, 09:42 PM
Hey i ordered 15 pallets of 419 in mini rolls with 604 sq. ft. per pallet. I want it too look that good dave... Could you email me your chemical program along with sanding and stuff like you are for the other guy. I would really appreciate it.. jonathansheehan818@mac.com MY email... thanks you guys. I am very excited... irrigation is going down on monday morning hopefully then sod that evening or tuesday in the AM.... appraiser is coming in one day next week not sure when and i really hope that he or she doesn't come in on monday or tuesday or i am screwed....

I tried to send it to you, but came back in valid address? send me your e-mail address to davek@bellsouth.net

JShe8918
06-11-2009, 09:50 PM
Three questions for you bermuda people. Do the majority of people use a rotary mower or a reel mower... How big of a difference is in the quality of cut are you seeing from a reel mower to a rotary mower? I love the look of a yard that looks like a GOLF course BUT... i have a large doberman pinscher and i am afraid when he pees or poops on the short mowed grass that the grass will die... Is that the case? I though about mowing it with a reel at say like 1" and seeing how i liked it... I really don't want any higher... What are your takes on the situation.... AND DON"T SAY GET RID OF THE DOG.... LoL.. By the way all of them look extremely nice... I just want my lawn to be the height of these that were taken from cgaengineer in the zoysia thread...

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=227385&page=13

JShe8918
06-11-2009, 09:53 PM
I tried to send it to you, but came back in valid address? send me your e-mail address to davek@bellsouth.net

email sent...

cgaengineer
06-11-2009, 09:56 PM
It won't matter if its 1/2" or 3" bermuda will die if pissed on. But for that golf course look, and thick, dense turf a reel mower is the only way to go. I had mine looking good with a rotary mower, but it looks 10 times better with a reel.
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JShe8918
06-11-2009, 10:00 PM
It won't matter if its 1/2" or 3" bermuda will die if pissed on. But for that golf course look, and thick, dense turf a reel mower is the only way to go. I had mine looking good with a rotary mower, but it looks 10 times better with a reel.
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your kidding right? I hope you are joking. What the heck am i going to do then? What if i give him those pills that are suppose to keep it from burning the yard? How bout then?

IRRITECH
06-11-2009, 10:16 PM
your kidding right? I hope you are joking. What the heck am i going to do then? What if i give him those pills that are suppose to keep it from burning the yard? How bout then?

No, he's not kidding. However, it's not quite as bad as you think. If the yard is relatively large and the dog goes all over the yard you should be allright. It takes a fairly high concentration to kill bermuda as it will accept alot of urea. Usually the spots will darken/green up in a small circle and the very center will turn brown. I have alot of yards with dogs and do not really have an issue although none of them are as large as yours.

cgaengineer
06-11-2009, 10:19 PM
Those things don't work...tried them. Your best bet is to train the dog to go someplace other than on your new lawn...the good news is the lawn will recover...I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it...I have 2 dogs and have several spots in the rear lawn...I don't let them on the front.
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JShe8918
06-11-2009, 10:23 PM
I see. well as long as they aren't too bad... yeah my yard is pretty large... it is 1 acre if you include the house... Only sodding the front and the top of the rear. I hope to seed the lower part of the yard.

dave k
06-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Try Doggie Diapers!:rolleyes:

Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-12-2009, 11:08 PM
Try Doggie Diapers!:rolleyes:

Try Fish!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh:

Land of Lakes Lawncare
06-13-2009, 12:58 AM
put tea bags in the dogs water... it works perfectly and you'll never have to worry about it

IRRITECH
06-15-2009, 10:34 PM
1) 7/8" reel mowed

2) 1.75" W/B

cgaengineer
06-15-2009, 10:56 PM
1) 7/8" reel mowed

2) 1.75" W/B

Looks really good! 7/8"...thats long, should have cut it 3/8" ago!!

Sorry, my Dave K'ism is kicking in!

IRRITECH
06-15-2009, 11:02 PM
Looks really good! 7/8"...thats long, should have cut it 3/8" ago!!

Sorry, my Dave K'ism is kicking in!


You're right of course. But with only weekly mowing and the ground not being very level (shrunk badly in the last two years) about 3/4 is as far as I can go right now

IRRITECH
06-15-2009, 11:04 PM
put tea bags in the dogs water... it works perfectly and you'll never have to worry about it

Hmmmmm....... Let the dogs have caffeine all day long????

cgaengineer
06-15-2009, 11:16 PM
Hmmmmm....... Let the dogs have caffeine all day long????

And we know what caffeine does...makes you pee!!

dave k
06-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Not sure who cuts this lawn but I like how he has a taller boarder of Bermuda around the back which is the same height in the back yard, it curves around to the front.
I think the people who maintain the golf course cuts this lawn since I saw the crew spraying liquid fertilizer on it with their equip.

cgaengineer
06-19-2009, 08:04 PM
That lawn looks bad...no color.

esnipe8
06-19-2009, 11:41 PM
That lawn looks bad...no color.

:confused: looks awesome to me!

JShe8918
06-20-2009, 01:23 AM
the stripes look good but the color is not GREEN!!!! I was one the golf course today and i should have snapped a few photos of it. the greens were so green but talk about soggy!! i play bare foot and the water would squish out of the ground and around my feet. I began to wonder why they don't have a fungus problem with that much water.

dave k
06-20-2009, 08:06 AM
That was the whole point of taking these pic's, to show Bermuda can stripe even when its cut as low as this, he must cut it under 1/4".

cgaengineer
06-20-2009, 09:52 AM
That was the whole point of taking these pic's, to show Bermuda can stripe even when its cut as low as this, he must cut it under 1/4".

And how in the heck do you get stripes with bermuda at 1/4"? Mine sure doesnt do it!

dave k
06-20-2009, 10:01 AM
Chris, if I told you, I'd have to @#$!* you! LOL
It's the mower I guess, they have those stripes burned in it from cutting the same way. I'll have to bring my Locke over and see if it will help.
I would always cut mine at 1/2" and it stripped nicely, but the Bermuda had a finer blade a true 419.

cgaengineer
06-20-2009, 02:42 PM
I actually cut mine this AM and it did stripe...faint, but you could and can still see them.

dave k
06-20-2009, 08:17 PM
Good, Keep cutting it the same way a few times to see if it burns in.

cgaengineer
06-20-2009, 08:34 PM
Good, Keep cutting it the same way a few times to see if it burns in.

Im afraid we will see burning, but it will not be from mowing the same direction...we need rain!

I actually cut mine this AM and it did stripe...faint, but you could and can still see them. I think if I would have gotten the Cali Trimmer I would see my stripes better.

Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-21-2009, 12:31 AM
Here's one of our landscapes with Bermuda

JShe8918
06-21-2009, 01:20 AM
Im afraid we will see burning, but it will not be from mowing the same direction...we need rain!

I actually cut mine this AM and it did stripe...faint, but you could and can still see them. I think if I would have gotten the Cali Trimmer I would see my stripes better.

we need pictures of the POSSIBLE stripes... LoL.. Certified bermuda 419 is being cut monday morning at 9 and being delivered at 11!!!!!!! So excited....

P.S. water is on FINALLY still no controller though

cgaengineer
06-21-2009, 02:27 AM
Good for you JSHE! I want to fabricate some sort of roller for the rear of my TruCut...I think a rear roller would be the key to more defined stripes...I have the front roller already, but I just can't help to think that a rear roller would lay down some serious stripes.
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dave k
06-21-2009, 08:49 AM
I think the Bermuda looks better without stripes. Just a nice low cut carpet of grass.

tbettis
06-22-2009, 06:38 PM
dave whats your irrigation schedule with this 100 plus degree temp. im startin to lose a little color also. i do a 3:00 am start and end at 6:15a. about 4-5 days out the week. 30 mins per zone for 6 zones and 15 mins for 1.

olaf valle
06-22-2009, 06:41 PM
Chestnut Oaks Prez that house look my future crib :drinkup:

dave k
06-22-2009, 07:32 PM
dave whats your irrigation schedule with this 100 plus degree temp. im startin to lose a little color also. i do a 3:00 am start and end at 6:15a. about 4-5 days out the week. 30 mins per zone for 6 zones and 15 mins for 1.
I have 12 zones, 20 min per zone 3 times per week on the rotors, and 10 min with the sprays, on the one zone with the Thermal Blue I do 30 min for that zone, its looking rough right now.
You just sodded correct? Throw some iron down if its losing color, to hot for more N.

cgaengineer
06-22-2009, 11:01 PM
These were taken about 1 hour ago...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture001_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture002_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture004_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture006_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture008_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture009_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture012_sm.jpg

IRRITECH
06-22-2009, 11:35 PM
These were taken about 1 hour ago...




I like.........

cgaengineer
06-22-2009, 11:37 PM
I like.........

Thanks, can you come install a demo irrigation system?

IRRITECH
06-22-2009, 11:39 PM
Thanks, can you come install a demo irrigation system?

Too busy for a demo. But I'll tell you what, send me $2500 for a down payment and I'll move you up the list.

cgaengineer
06-22-2009, 11:43 PM
Too busy for a demo. But I'll tell you what, send me $2500 for a down payment and I'll move you up the list.

Down payment? Sheesh, I'll tell you like my customers tell me..."I can get that stuff at Home Depot for $50":laugh::laugh::laugh:

Briley1975
06-23-2009, 01:38 AM
Irritech- is that top pic in Cleveland Tn by any chance- I swear I have seen that house

tacoma200
06-23-2009, 06:11 AM
Here's one of our landscapes with Bermuda

That looks great!

tbettis
06-23-2009, 06:23 PM
I have 12 zones, 20 min per zone 3 times per week on the rotors, and 10 min with the sprays, on the one zone with the Thermal Blue I do 30 min for that zone, its looking rough right now.
You just sodded correct? Throw some iron down if its losing color, to hot for more N.

no the lawn is about 3 years old. im getting brown spots like the one u have at the end of the driveway there

tbettis
06-23-2009, 06:25 PM
well not brown but yellowish grey.

cgaengineer
06-24-2009, 09:29 AM
well not brown but yellowish grey.

Post a picture for us to see, we will try to get to the bottom of it.

tbettis
06-24-2009, 06:23 PM
ok ill get one fri evening after the crew comes and cut edge ect. i see whats going on i think. dry spots from the sprinkler system

capelawncare.com
06-24-2009, 08:36 PM
Post a picture for us to see, we will try to get to the bottom of it.

I got your PM, couldnt respond.... Your now an offical right wing extremist.

alltoroformetwo
06-24-2009, 09:03 PM
Man those are some beautiful lawns...I wish mine looked like that!!

dave k
06-24-2009, 09:12 PM
All in do time young man! :dizzy:

alltoroformetwo
06-24-2009, 09:16 PM
All in do time young man! :dizzy:

Yeah, I really need to work on mine and see if I can get it looking like some of those. As crappy as mine looks they wouldnt ever allow me to post it on this forum. If only they knew.

dave k
06-24-2009, 09:24 PM
ahfuhgedaboutit! :cool2:

alltoroformetwo
06-24-2009, 09:28 PM
These were taken about 1 hour ago...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture001_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture002_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture004_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture006_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture008_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture009_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Turf%20June%2022%202009/Picture012_sm.jpg


Awesome, simply awesome! Please fill me in on your secrets to a lawn this beautiful cgaengineer.

dave k
06-24-2009, 09:33 PM
First thing first, edge and blo before you post any pic's! I mean , what the HECK!:hammerhead:

alltoroformetwo
06-24-2009, 09:39 PM
First thing first, edge and blo before you post any pic's! I mean , what the HECK!:hammerhead:

Yeah, that was kinda slack.:nono:

Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-25-2009, 04:39 PM
Chris! I can see your neighborghs hate you.:hammerhead:

dave k
06-25-2009, 04:46 PM
Chris! I can see your neighborghs hate you.:hammerhead:
Yea, especially the one he is going to drop tonight! :clapping::dancing::waving::walking::laugh:

cgaengineer
06-27-2009, 11:29 AM
Chris! I can see your neighborghs hate you.:hammerhead:

Yeah I crack a joke to my neighbor on the right side of me if you are facing my house. Every time I cut I tell him "Well Mike, its time to cut your grass" This is usually after he has just cut it...he usually makes a smart comment or gives me the neighborly birdy finger (Not in a bad way, we get along great). There is a definite line of green/light green/brown between my lawn and my neighbors on both sides.

IRRITECH
06-28-2009, 09:22 AM
Irritech- is that top pic in Cleveland Tn by any chance- I swear I have seen that house

I dunno, I swiped them off the internet. :)



No really, they are all in NE Atlanta

tbettis
08-02-2009, 08:25 PM
heres my lawn

tbettis
08-02-2009, 08:28 PM
the topdressing application that my lawn is about to receive will enable me to cut very low for next spring. currently its at 1.5- 2.0 and i hate it. have a lot of dimples every where

1993lx172
08-02-2009, 08:41 PM
Around here no one except golf courses cuts bermuda that low. Everyone here cuts it at 4".

tbettis
08-02-2009, 08:43 PM
actually i think it 3.0 inches

dave k
08-02-2009, 08:43 PM
I agree, top dressing will do the trick, but get yourself a reel mower to improve the cut.

tbettis
08-02-2009, 08:51 PM
dave k. you gotta help me get that golf course like you have. starting this fall.

tbettis
08-02-2009, 08:55 PM
lawn is currently being cut with a walker with bagging system. do i tell the lco to gradually lower to train the lawn to grow lower

dave k
08-02-2009, 08:58 PM
The thing that happens when you use a reel and consistently cut it short is the Bermuda grows horizontal and not vertical, just look at Chris's lawn, it didn't look that way before he topdressed and began cutting with a reel.
Also using proper irrigation and a good fertilization plan helps, aerating also.
You will need to cut twice weekly using a reel.

tbettis
08-02-2009, 09:04 PM
twice? so with a reel mower it doesnt grow straight up

dave k
08-02-2009, 09:09 PM
It does, but mostly use's all it's energy to grow horizonally which make's for a very thick carpet of grass, and yes you need to cut it twice weekly to keep it trained that way, you can get away with once a week but it will look yellow after you cut it, its a lot of work to keep your turf looking good, but it's worth it.
At the Ted, (Turner Field) they cut their ballpark everyday.

dave k
08-02-2009, 09:13 PM
Best way to explain it is the turf is tight, you have to see it up close to know what I am talking about, Chris had a up close pic, His lawn used to look as tall as your's.

tbettis
08-02-2009, 09:16 PM
im watching the braves now and how the hell are they striping it?

cgaengineer
08-02-2009, 09:19 PM
Twice weeklt and sometimes 3 times per week depending on the rain. I have to say my lawn looks better this season then it has ever looked. I am now cutting with my rotary mower since I do not irrigate. I have not fertilized since June...
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dave k
08-02-2009, 09:26 PM
Twice weeklt and sometimes 3 times per week depending on the rain. I have to say my lawn looks better this season then it has ever looked. I am now cutting with my rotary mower since I do not irrigate. I have not fertilized since June...
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Chris, You're just whimping out on me, you can still cut with the reel at a higher length. :laugh:

dave k
08-02-2009, 09:28 PM
im watching the braves now and how the hell are they striping it?


I'm watching them too, as I said the cut every day and that pattern is burned in the turf!
If I'm not mistaken they cut the outfield at .75" even though to me it looks shorter when I walked the outfield with my grandkids.

tbettis
08-02-2009, 09:31 PM
does everything need to be leveled off before i even attempt the reel mower cut. i know its gonna look like crap

dave k
08-02-2009, 09:43 PM
It depends how bad your lawn is, is it bumpy? Its hard to tell with the pics, but my neighbor cuts his lawn with his Mclaine reel and he never sanded it and it look's ok, it would look better with it sanded.
If you cut it short you have to keep it watered otherwise it dries out quickly.

cgaengineer
08-02-2009, 09:54 PM
I need to backlap my reel...and my bermuda is seed head city right now!!
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dave k
08-02-2009, 10:05 PM
I need to backlap my reel...and my bermuda is seed head city right now!!
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Still have the seed heads? They should be done with by now, bring the reel over someday and backlap it.

dave k
08-02-2009, 10:09 PM
lawn is currently being cut with a walker with bagging system. do i tell the lco to gradually lower to train the lawn to grow lower
Hmmm, that looks pretty bad for a Walker cut, when I got lazy with my Bermuda, I would cut it with my Walker at 1" and it looked pretty good.
I wouldn't do anything until you are able to topdress, it would look bad and would burn up. Do you have an irrigation system?

dave k
08-02-2009, 10:14 PM
When is the last time you put down fertilizer? It looks like it could use some N.

tbettis
08-02-2009, 10:17 PM
fertilized monday with 30-3-3 i have irrigation

cgaengineer
08-02-2009, 11:06 PM
If I would have know we were going to get as much rain as we did the last few days I would have fertilized.

As far as backlapping, I may bring it over this week...at any rate we will see you tomorrow for haircuts.
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dave k
08-02-2009, 11:10 PM
fertilized monday with 30-3-3 i have irrigation


It will start to look good in about a week!

dave k
08-02-2009, 11:12 PM
If I would have know we were going to get as much rain as we did the last few days I would have fertilized.

As far as backlapping, I may bring it over this week...at any rate we will see you tomorrow for haircuts.
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OK, I have a full week's worth of work this week!:clapping:
Say that 10 times real quickly!

cgaengineer
08-03-2009, 12:19 AM
Well that's good news, hopefully K will find a job soon too!
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JShe8918
08-03-2009, 02:25 AM
Well guys i got my sod laid out about a month ago. It had to sit on the pallet for almost 2 DAYS!!!! When i laid it it was yellow as all get out. It looked like a dead or a dormant yard. I watered the heck out of it for a two weeks. It started to look good and fill in the yellow and brown. My mom got her water bill and STROKED. She said cut the water to twice a week. I did and everything DIED!! Everything except the front. The front looks bad and part of i died due to my lack of time for ground prep. So 1800 dollars of bermuda sod went to waste. I still have four full pallets in my back yard that i didn't lay due to not having time. I am very depressed because it took me OVER 20 hours to lay 16 pallets and i have nothing to show for it. I have came to the conclusion of broadcasting out centipede seed in the back. Then i will do all my landscaping back there and lay sod two or three pallets at a time. That way i can make sure everything is perfect. Probably will not start relaying the sod until next spring. I have lots to do. A retaining wall with a cobble stone patio and two walkways. Then beds all the way around the perimeter of my one acre backyard. Maybe one day i will be finished and be able to sit back and relax.

JShe8918
08-03-2009, 02:27 AM
OH!!! And can i broadcast some fertilizer out on the front to try and make it green up and fill in. If so what balance should i be looking for? I use lesco products. I was told some triple 13 but that doesn't sound like what i need on a freshly sodded yard. Thanks. I hope either dave of chris will chime in before bed to let me know so i can get to mobile tommorrow to get it. Thanks

cgaengineer
08-03-2009, 07:20 AM
Put that dead sod down anyway...you will be surprised. I wouldn't do it for a customer but for your own lawn it will be fine. Next year it will take longer to green up but I promise it will all be greened up before the end of summer next season. Bermuda is tough...very tough. The actual grass that is dead on the sod pieces may not come back, but the neighboring grass will spread right into the 1.5" of freshly laid fertile top soil.

As far as fertilizer I would put down a starter fert...but that's just me...I am far from an expert, I'm just telling you what has worked for me.

I would not put down centipede seed next season either. Centipede compared to bermuda are 180 degrees from each other...centipede being very temperamental and bermuda being very tough.
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dave k
08-03-2009, 08:40 AM
That is hard for me to believe it would have died, yes I believe the sod on the pallets would cook and die if on there to long, I would not give up, send me some pictures, Use Starter Fertilizer, any brand is fine, use what ever is on sale, follow the directions.
Why didn't you get all the sod laid in back? time is no excuse, could have had some friends and neighbors over to lay it, or done a little every night.
Always remember the 5 "P"s
Proper planning, Prevents, Poor Performances!

JShe8918
08-03-2009, 02:30 PM
That is hard for me to believe it would have died, yes I believe the sod on the pallets would cook and die if on there to long, I would not give up, send me some pictures, Use Starter Fertilizer, any brand is fine, use what ever is on sale, follow the directions.
Why didn't you get all the sod laid in back? time is no excuse, could have had some friends and neighbors over to lay it, or done a little every night.
Always remember the 5 "P"s
Proper planning, Prevents, Poor Performances!

I know Dave. I was hard pressed to have it done in a matter of a week and a half. I called the sod company and prepaid. My irrigation company said it would take two days and they would start the next day. Well it did take three days of labor. But they showed up one monday and worked and didn't return until friday and then again monday. Well i had the sod delivered on monday and the trenches still werent filled. There fore i couldn't prep the ground with the harley rake. So i prepped ground most of the night. Neighbors loved that. And started laying it in the morning at 6. Laid for two days. Dave and chris you may remember this. the third day i went to the hospital. So i was stretched for time and then the irrigation company screwed me.

cgaengineer
08-03-2009, 03:07 PM
the topdressing application that my lawn is about to receive will enable me to cut very low for next spring. currently its at 1.5- 2.0 and i hate it. have a lot of dimples every where

It appears to me you have some rutting happening which will be taken care of when top dressed. I would suggest you do the topdressing now or wait until next June, personally I would wait until June even with irrigation. Do not topdress in the fall, you will lose a lot of your sand during the winter without protection from a thatch layer and horizontal growth. You could top dress with manure or compost in the fall, but that will not level your lawn like you want.

Fell free to ask any questions you may have on the process, I will be glad to answer them.

dave k
08-03-2009, 06:37 PM
I know Dave. I was hard pressed to have it done in a matter of a week and a half. I called the sod company and prepaid. My irrigation company said it would take two days and they would start the next day. Well it did take three days of labor. But they showed up one monday and worked and didn't return until friday and then again monday. Well i had the sod delivered on monday and the trenches still werent filled. There fore i couldn't prep the ground with the harley rake. So i prepped ground most of the night. Neighbors loved that. And started laying it in the morning at 6. Laid for two days. Dave and chris you may remember this. the third day i went to the hospital. So i was stretched for time and then the irrigation company screwed me.
I'm with Chris, if you still have sod on pallets, I would still lay them down, see what happens, heck builders lay sod and the house sits and no one waters it and it survives, go for it Johnathon

JShe8918
08-03-2009, 07:30 PM
Well i bought 2 pallets and are going to arrive tommorrow i will be laying the center circle of my drive. Ground prep was a son of a gun but it looks decent. i have some more work to do. I borrowed a skid from my buddy who owns a large landscaping company in town and i busted an irrigation pipe with it by mistake. This install will not be nearly as sloppy as the last. I am also going to be patching a few dead spots wish me luck on the second go around.

cgaengineer
08-03-2009, 07:32 PM
I have put it down when it was molded and slimey and it came back...and I didn't water it either.
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dave k
08-03-2009, 07:36 PM
Well i bought 2 pallets and are going to arrive tommorrow i will be laying the center circle of my drive. Ground prep was a son of a gun but it looks decent. i have some more work to do. I borrowed a skid from my buddy who owns a large landscaping company in town and i busted an irrigation pipe with it by mistake. This install will not be nearly as sloppy as the last. I am also going to be patching a few dead spots wish me luck on the second go around.
The fertilizer will help out too!

JShe8918
08-05-2009, 01:57 AM
I put it all down this morning. It looks different. But both companies had proof that it was certified 419. I have watered twice today 15 minutes each time. The area is covered by some rain bird 1806 sprays. I am gonna roll it tomorrow. I will get a picture to see if i get dave's and chris's approval. Since according to them my last install was SLOPPY. LoL. we shall see if this one looks better to them.

cgaengineer
08-05-2009, 07:30 AM
That last install was not your install, it was your friends!!
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JShe8918
08-05-2009, 12:10 PM
True but the ground prep was still on me. And that is why it was so bumpy. but the seams did look like crap. Going to take pictures now.

tbettis
08-09-2009, 10:21 AM
told the lco that I wanted to go lower so he took it down a notch but he told me the lower he goes the burn risk gets higher. dave... do I need to wait about another month or so before I topdress. This lawn is lumpy as hell and looks like crap the lower you go. Im trying to get down to I guess 0.75-1.25.

cgaengineer
08-09-2009, 12:57 PM
Wait until next season inJune to topdress. In order to topdress you need to take the lawn down to 1/2 inch...in this heat it will likely not recover before winter dormancy.
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tbettis
08-09-2009, 01:22 PM
ok. chris thanks. do you hit it hard one more time with urea before you start fall apps.

cgaengineer
08-09-2009, 01:34 PM
ok. chris thanks. do you hit it hard one more time with urea before you start fall apps.

I watch the weather...if it looks like cooler temps and rain I will fertilize.

tbettis
08-09-2009, 01:42 PM
I do the same

JShe8918
09-16-2009, 10:50 PM
Chris and Dave how do you like your tru cut? is it a 20 or 27? I want a locke but i cant justify 4500 dollars for a 30" mower. I know the locke is far superior but i just don't have that kind of budget to purchase a mower for my yard and one bank. Also do i need to aerate this fall and when do i need to sand. I have lots of questions for you to be honest.

dave k
09-16-2009, 11:18 PM
I had a C27 Tru Cut and it did fine.
Chris has (2) 20" homeowner models, but get what you can afford, go on craigs list, there are a lot of used ones for sale.
No you don't need to aerate Bermuda this time of year, wait until May right before you topdress.
The turf is going into dormancy now, so go along with it and enjoy the fall weather.

JShe8918
09-16-2009, 11:36 PM
dave for some reason everytime i mow my front yard it turns brown. I know that the base of bermuda is brown and just the tips are green foilage. How do i change that. Do i just go ahead and mow LOW and let it look awefull and then let it come back or what? i mean it hardly even grows. It is getting plenty of water and sun just seems like it isn't growing much at all. Also i just picked up a new bank that was just built it is Emerald zoysia. They let it get deep enough to engulf my flip flop and foot almost. Do i need to just mow it down and forget the 1/3 rule? I mean yeah it is gonna yellow but hey it is there fault. Also it is really lumpy. And when i say really i mean REALLY lumpy. If i can get them to topdress next year is it going to make it smooth enough to mow with a reel? Also when is the best time to top dress, mid summer? I have been looking at so many trucuts on craigslist and i dunno what i am looking at. Are the commercial units much different from the home owners units? i mean 2 yards mowed twice a week?

JShe8918
09-16-2009, 11:38 PM
Oh and there was a used locke on there the other day i emailed the guy as soon as i saw it which was 5 days ago. The guys didn't reply until today saying that he sold it YESTERDAY for 1000 bucks. I was SO mad. I priced a new CL-130 and i think it was 3400 or 3200 cant really remember. What does a new Trucut run?

cgaengineer
09-17-2009, 12:07 AM
There are 3 trucut models

H-homeowner single front and rear wheels
P-professional (I have this one) dual front wheels and single rears
C-commercial (dual front and rear wheels)

if you can find a good one get a Locke, but don't be afraid of a trucut...they are great reels. If you are interested in buying one of mine let me know.
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JShe8918
09-17-2009, 12:17 AM
http://bham.craigslist.org/grd/1333825670.html

What do you think about this? 2 years old 1000 bucks? What is it really worth if it has been properly maintained?

There are 3 trucut models

H-homeowner single front and rear wheels
P-professional (I have this one) dual front wheels and single rears
C-commercial (dual front and rear wheels)

if you can find a good one get a Locke, but don't be afraid of a trucut...they are great reels. If you are interested in buying one of mine let me know.
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So you have one for sale huh? Where are you located in Georgia? Like north or south of ATL?

cgaengineer
09-17-2009, 12:26 AM
I am east of Atlanta about 60 miles.
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cgaengineer
09-17-2009, 12:27 AM
I can send you a vid of it running and Davek just backlapped it for me.
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JShe8918
09-17-2009, 12:35 AM
What year how much? Is this the one you bought for 50 bucks? ROTF LMBO

dave k
09-17-2009, 03:08 PM
dave for some reason everytime i mow my front yard it turns brown. I know that the base of bermuda is brown and just the tips are green foilage. How do i change that. Do i just go ahead and mow LOW and let it look awefull and then let it come back or what? i mean it hardly even grows. It is getting plenty of water and sun just seems like it isn't growing much at all. Also i just picked up a new bank that was just built it is Emerald zoysia. They let it get deep enough to engulf my flip flop and foot almost. Do i need to just mow it down and forget the 1/3 rule? I mean yeah it is gonna yellow but hey it is there fault. Also it is really lumpy. And when i say really i mean REALLY lumpy. If i can get them to topdress next year is it going to make it smooth enough to mow with a reel? Also when is the best time to top dress, mid summer? I have been looking at so many trucuts on craigslist and i dunno what i am looking at. Are the commercial units much different from the home owners units? i mean 2 yards mowed twice a week?

The Emerald needs to be taken down slowly, if it has gotten that tall than you may need to slowly take it down and when it is dormant you can take it down to where you want it, but do it weekly and not all at once.
You will see a black in the turf towards the roots, that area will take some time to recover, Emerald grows real slow. Yes cut it with a reel at .75 to 1" but no higher, if it gets higher you will that that lumpy feel to it.
Top dress it when its hot, end of May should be good or June.

JShe8918
09-17-2009, 03:12 PM
so basically i cant reel mow it until i topdress. UGH that is so far away. The landscaping is shiaty and not well thought out. it has a steep slope that goes down to a drainage ditch. The tree placement and rings are terrible. I can't even use a 42" walker ghs on it. i tried. And it has like a water pocket or something. if you step in a certain spot it is squishy and will wave. It is SO weird. So looks like i will be push mowing it with a little 21" mower for part of next summer.

dave k
09-17-2009, 03:20 PM
I sent you an PM, with my e-mail, send me pic's
Dave

dave k
09-17-2009, 03:24 PM
so basically i cant reel mow it until i topdress. UGH that is so far away. The landscaping is shiaty and not well thought out. it has a steep slope that goes down to a drainage ditch. The tree placement and rings are terrible. I can't even use a 42" walker ghs on it. i tried. And it has like a water pocket or something. if you step in a certain spot it is squishy and will wave. It is SO weird. So looks like i will be push mowing it with a little 21" mower for part of next summer.

You can try and reel it now with out topdressing it, since that stuff is so thick its incredible.
Send me your personal e-mail and I'll send you some pics of my yard cut with a reel. Chris can tell you that even using the Locke on Emerald you can't keep a straight line, period! The wheels never touch thge ground causing it to slide all over the plave, that is one reason I went back using the tri plex, plus missed cutting the yard under 1/2 hour!

cgaengineer
03-22-2010, 10:11 PM
Its almost time to wake this thread up...post some scalped bermuda pictures.

JShe8918
03-27-2010, 09:54 PM
Scalping mine in the AM with a dang rotary mower. :( I am ready for a reel mower!!! I am writing my new business plan and am going to try and get a business loan for all new equipment!!! I will post pictures tomorrow evening!

Jonathan

twentyocho
03-27-2010, 10:14 PM
Yeah I crack a joke to my neighbor on the right side of me if you are facing my house. Every time I cut I tell him "Well Mike, its time to cut your grass" This is usually after he has just cut it...he usually makes a smart comment or gives me the neighborly birdy finger (Not in a bad way, we get along great). There is a definite line of green/light green/brown between my lawn and my neighbors on both sides.

I have the same problem.. My neighbor slacks big time. WENT AS FAR AS TO MOW HIS FRONT LAWN one time while him and his wife were workin.. He was pretty embarrassed about it afterwards but started to slack again a month later...:dizzy:

cgaengineer
03-27-2010, 10:16 PM
I have the same problem.. My neighbor slacks big time. WENT AS FAR AS TO MOW HIS FRONT LAWN one time while him and his wife were workin.. He was pretty embarrassed about it afterwards but started to slack again a month later...:dizzy:

My neighbor isn't slack, he just can't mow at 1/2" so it makes his lawn look like it needs to be cut!
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cgaengineer
03-31-2010, 08:20 AM
Well my bermuda is the first in my neighborhood to start greening up. In about another 1-2 weeks it should be 50% green and ready for its first application of fertilizer. Lets hope the warmer weather holds out, along with a weekly rain shower throughout the summer.

JShe8918
03-31-2010, 02:36 PM
I scalped mine today and it is coming out quick. Looks like it is going to be completely green. I push mowed it today with the mower set at its lowest setting. Can you say hard to push! Up and down my hill lol that has lumps in it that needs to be addressed! Anyways. I am headed to work and have been working on some other projects in the yard. So photo's will have to be put off til tomorrow or friday!

Jon

dave k
03-31-2010, 07:02 PM
My Emerald is about 75% green.:cool2:

cgaengineer
03-31-2010, 07:14 PM
My Emerald is about 75% green.:cool2:

Don't lie, remember I am on my way over.
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JShe8918
03-31-2010, 07:18 PM
My Emerald is about 75% green.:cool2:

Rub it in Dave! I was rolling around in my bermuda today planting flowers... I had forgotten how harsh it felt over the summer. Sure wish mine was as nice and soft as your emerald. Hey i am going to snap some photo's of that bank right now on my way back to work. I will upload them tonight and email over to you to get your guidance on what to do. I know i need to kill some weeds, scalp, and topdress once it is growing rapidly.

Jonathan

dave k
03-31-2010, 07:22 PM
Don't lie, remember I am on my way over.
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OK, OK, you got me, it's 80% green, didn't want to rub it in, and this after i just cut it back down with the Walker to 1":laugh:
See you in a few

dave k
03-31-2010, 07:23 PM
Rub it in Dave! I was rolling around in my bermuda today planting flowers... I had forgotten how harsh it felt over the summer. Sure wish mine was as nice and soft as your emerald. Hey i am going to snap some photo's of that bank right now on my way back to work. I will upload them tonight and email over to you to get your guidance on what to do. I know i need to kill some weeds, scalp, and topdress once it is growing rapidly.

Jonathan
OK, Jonathan, will wait for them....:waving:

cgaengineer
03-31-2010, 09:33 PM
My Emerald is about 75% green.:cool2:

I estimate about 68.5% green from what I saw.

dave k
03-31-2010, 09:51 PM
I estimate about 68.5% green from what I saw.
Remember, you flunked math in H.S. :rolleyes:

cgaengineer
03-31-2010, 09:57 PM
Remember, you flunked math in H.S. :rolleyes:

True, I just re calculated it and I came up with 50% green!
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JShe8918
04-01-2010, 06:42 PM
OK, Jonathan, will wait for them....:waving:

I have the photo's uploaded on my computer at home. So when i get home i am going to email them!!!!!!!

I'm still wanting to see some scalped bermuda lawns! I have yet to see anythis year!!!

Jon

cgaengineer
04-01-2010, 09:48 PM
I have the photo's uploaded on my computer at home. So when i get home i am going to email them!!!!!!!

I'm still wanting to see some scalped bermuda lawns! I have yet to see anythis year!!!

Jon

Send them to me as well, and check your email.
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cgaengineer
04-02-2010, 10:54 PM
Ok Jonathan, post a pic of the new Locke!
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JShe8918
04-03-2010, 01:50 AM
HAHA... I want that LOCKE!!!! I am going to talk to my banker monday. I will send them to the both of you. Man do i have some weeds really coming up. Chris did you want photo's of the emerald or of my bermuda? I don't have any of my bermuda but i will snap some tomorrow. I have several of the emerald before i cut it. And all i have to say is DANG mowing that stuff on hills and in close quarters with a push mower. The only thing i am worried about with the Locke is that the area that i am going to be mowing has a few areas that are like 20 to 25" wide. That the locke wouldn't fit. IDK what to do! Wish that thing was a 20 or 25". It would make life easier. You will see the areas i am talking about in the photo's.

Jonathan

cgaengineer
04-03-2010, 07:53 AM
HAHA... I want that LOCKE!!!! I am going to talk to my banker monday. I will send them to the both of you. Man do i have some weeds really coming up. Chris did you want photo's of the emerald or of my bermuda? I don't have any of my bermuda but i will snap some tomorrow. I have several of the emerald before i cut it. And all i have to say is DANG mowing that stuff on hills and in close quarters with a push mower. The only thing i am worried about with the Locke is that the area that i am going to be mowing has a few areas that are like 20 to 25" wide. That the locke wouldn't fit. IDK what to do! Wish that thing was a 20 or 25". It would make life easier. You will see the areas i am talking about in the photo's.

Jonathan

Either cut those areas with a trimmer (handheld/weedeater since trimmer is a reel too) or pickup a used 20" mclane or trucut...they are plentiful on CL in this area.
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JShe8918
04-05-2010, 10:34 PM
Just got done looking at numbers and i am defenitely going to talk to my banker tomorrow about getting this mower. If he's on board then i will be driving out on wednesday. Chris if you will PM me dave's number if you get a chance. He told me to call him but he didn't give me his number lol... Or email it to me if you don't mind. Email might be more safe. So hopefully with in a few days i will have me a locke! The only down fall is that it doesn't collect clippings like a trucut. Could i buy or build a catcher simular to the tru cuts? Oh and i forgot to take photo's of my front yard. The back is so pitiful i am not going to take a photo of it. Tear.... Tear....

cgaengineer
04-06-2010, 02:28 PM
April 6, 2010

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/Lawn%202010/DSCN0818.jpg

JShe8918
04-06-2010, 07:12 PM
Mine looks about as green as yours, Chris. Let me go snap some shots of mine!

JShe8918
04-06-2010, 08:48 PM
Okay chris maybe i lied... Mine looks more green in person than it does on the internet. LoL. But you get the idea.

Here's some photos! As you can see i have a weed problem. One of which is poa annua. It is going to be sprayed next week some time with celcius. It is supposably the new best thing on the market. Good for zoysia, bermuda, centipede, and saint augustine... Odd huh?

This stuff grows like tumble weeds. I have already mowed it twice this week. I am trying to keep it low to the ground!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4870.jpg


http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4865.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4866.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4867.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4869.jpg

JShe8918
04-06-2010, 09:00 PM
And a few of my weeds.....

IDK?

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4873.jpg

Poa Annua aka blue grass.... :(

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4874.jpg

Another IDK?

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4875.jpg

And IDK why this spot died.... Unless it drowned when i had a busted pipe at the end of the summer.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4876.jpg

cgaengineer
04-06-2010, 10:57 PM
I wouldn't even treat the poa now...its about to die and it has already dropped its seed for you next year! Don't bother, its not worth the risk of setting back the greenup honestly.
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cutn4alivin
04-07-2010, 12:04 AM
Ok I have read this thread and I must say I am sold on Bermuda. You guys have some serious lawns. If someone could kindly set me in the best direction to get my lawn looking like that. I know 1 million and 1 person to ask the same question. I currently have Centipeede and fescue. I do not have the funds to pay for sod since I have 1.4 acres. If I kill my lawn, till it up, apply cow crap, sand to smooth it out and level. can I obtain the same results with sprigs or is sod the only way to go. And if sprigs will work where can you get Certified sprigs. Please forgive the stupid questions. I am sure this would be a no brainer for a true landscaper. I am a homeowner who enjoys yard work, I use to volunteer at a golf course in junior high just to drive a International reel mower, that thing was awesome until brakes went out on me and a local pond... thats another story. Please if anyone could lend a helping thought that would be great.

JShe8918
04-07-2010, 12:19 AM
I would just do it one section at a time if you can't afford to do it all at once. It is only about 8K for sod for close to an acre in my area for 419. I really wanted zoysia but couldn't afford it. Zoysia is double the cost here. :( Springs would be to time consuming for slow results. If you wanted to do it that way i would atleast do sod and checkerboard the yard. The results would be loads quicker. So Chirs are you down for Duluth tomorrow evening if i get to make the trip? I bet i get stuck in ATL 5 o'clock traffic. YUCK!

cgaengineer
04-07-2010, 06:42 AM
I'll try to see if I can catch a ride with Dave at that time, I have to get my son so I'm not sure I will be able to make it. You should be ok coming into Atlanta, but like you said about Duluth...that will likely be your bottleneck.
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cgaengineer
04-07-2010, 06:53 AM
Ok I have read this thread and I must say I am sold on Bermuda. You guys have some serious lawns. If someone could kindly set me in the best direction to get my lawn looking like that. I know 1 million and 1 person to ask the same question. I currently have Centipeede and fescue. I do not have the funds to pay for sod since I have 1.4 acres. If I kill my lawn, till it up, apply cow crap, sand to smooth it out and level. can I obtain the same results with sprigs or is sod the only way to go. And if sprigs will work where can you get Certified sprigs. Please forgive the stupid questions. I am sure this would be a no brainer for a true landscaper. I am a homeowner who enjoys yard work, I use to volunteer at a golf course in junior high just to drive a International reel mower, that thing was awesome until brakes went out on me and a local pond... thats another story. Please if anyone could lend a helping thought that would be great.

Do you have irrigation? I am thinking sprigs are going to be really tough to get going if not. Can it be done with sprigs? I'm sure it can, but it won't be easy and you will have to find someone with a machine made for sprigs.

Take a look at Princess 77 seed, its the closest seed to a hybrid bermuda and it maybe much easier then sprigging since it can be put down with a common spreader. I have seen pictures of princess 77 lawns that were seeded from bare ground that were wall to wall green so that is an option.

Sod is the best and quickest option but I understand the cost. The grid pattern that Jonathan suggested would cut your sod bill in half and would fill in before the end of the season but would require some work to get it smooth. Can you post some pictures of the areas you want to grass? Honestly if I was to sod my bacyard again I would put down 1/2 of what I did and integrate more beds and plants into that area...it too much to cut, too steep and requires more chemicals to keep it looking good.

Go for small and high quality if you can.

Where you from anyway?
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JShe8918
04-07-2010, 08:19 PM
I'll try to see if I can catch a ride with Dave at that time, I have to get my son so I'm not sure I will be able to make it. You should be ok coming into Atlanta, but like you said about Duluth...that will likely be your bottleneck.
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Will likely be my bottle neck? What does that mean? Well as i am sure you konw i didn't make it today. But i am headed that way tomorrow. I am leaving at about 10 Am my time and 11 AM your time. That should put me there around 4.30 or so tomorrow evening at howard brothers. Maybe a little sooner depending on how fast i drive. :rolleyes:. If you want or are able to come down. If not that is totally understandable. I don't know if dave will be able to make it or not. I don't know whether i am going to stay the night in duluth or ATL or if i am going to just drive home. I don't really feel like getting home late and driving 12 hours tomorrow.....

mx315
04-14-2010, 09:41 AM
Hey guys.... I found this post looking for info on overseeding existing Bermuda turf with Bermuda seed to fix bare spots at one of my properties. The guys at JDL told me that Sun Sport seed is the best they have, have you guys ever heard of it or have a preference on a seed brand? We took this property over and the turf is really thin in alot of places and has some pretty big bare spots that they want us to try to fix it. Anybody have advice on the best process to overseed Bermuda in existing turf. We've seeded before but it was bare ground and we could prep the soil. I'm not sure how to prep since I can't really rake the existing turf.

dave k
04-14-2010, 09:48 AM
Ok I have read this thread and I must say I am sold on Bermuda. You guys have some serious lawns. If someone could kindly set me in the best direction to get my lawn looking like that. I know 1 million and 1 person to ask the same question. I currently have Centipeede and fescue. I do not have the funds to pay for sod since I have 1.4 acres. If I kill my lawn, till it up, apply cow crap, sand to smooth it out and level. can I obtain the same results with sprigs or is sod the only way to go. And if sprigs will work where can you get Certified sprigs. Please forgive the stupid questions. I am sure this would be a no brainer for a true landscaper. I am a homeowner who enjoys yard work, I use to volunteer at a golf course in junior high just to drive a International reel mower, that thing was awesome until brakes went out on me and a local pond... thats another story. Please if anyone could lend a helping thought that would be great.

Princess 77 Bermuda seed is as close to being Hybred as you can get, it actually is a Hybred Bermuda seed, it looks like 419, it was used for a super bowl also a few years ago, just Google it.

mx315
04-14-2010, 12:34 PM
Found it. Thanks

cgaengineer
04-14-2010, 03:31 PM
Honestly if your lawn is mostly bermuda you should get it in order and let it fill in, forget overseeding.
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JShe8918
04-17-2010, 11:19 PM
I am the proud new owner of a Locke CL130!!!! I will post pictures tomorrow of the mower along with my yard pre cut and post cut. It is also getting sprayed with celsius tomorrow TOO!

cgaengineer
04-17-2010, 11:30 PM
I cut about 200-250 lf of bed edges today...I got rid of about 3000 sq ft of bermuda!!
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dave k
04-18-2010, 09:05 AM
I am the proud new owner of a Locke CL130!!!! I will post pictures tomorrow of the mower along with my yard pre cut and post cut. It is also getting sprayed with celsius tomorrow TOO!

That's great, you'll love it and it will provide you with years of mowing.:clapping:

tbettis
04-18-2010, 12:34 PM
@ davek. have u done ur first fertilizer app yet to ur bermuda.

cgaengineer
04-18-2010, 12:51 PM
@ davek. have u done ur first fertilizer app yet to ur bermuda.

Dave has zoysia, but I have done my first fert app on my bermuda.
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tbettis
04-18-2010, 12:56 PM
cga. what was ur first app.

cgaengineer
04-18-2010, 01:42 PM
29-0-4 was my first app. I buy the cheapest slow release I can buy.
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JShe8918
04-18-2010, 02:18 PM
29-0-4 was my first app. I buy the cheapest slow release I can buy.
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You cheapo, Chris.... If you gonna do it you have got to do it BIG! I am getting ready to do my first fert application either this week or next week. Depending on Dave's and Chris's recomendations. I scalped it down on the lowest setting on my Locke this morning. My yard had really came out in the past week and i just erased the progress. :cry: But by the end of the week it should look ALOT better than it did before i mowed it! My friend is supposed to spray celsius on my yard either today or tomorrow to kill the broadleafs and poannua. My question is how long should i wait after the application to apply my first fert app? Chris what were you keeping your yard mowed at last year? .75 or less?

Jonathan

cgaengineer
04-18-2010, 04:06 PM
I am cheap...its all made in the same place out of the same stuff anyway!
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dave k
04-18-2010, 07:51 PM
@ davek. have u done ur first fertilizer app yet to ur bermuda.

I have Emerald, yes I did, I used Helena Chemical fertilizer, I can't remember the numbers on it, will let you know later.
But use a high N number to wake it up and get it growing, 35-0-0 would get it growing fast!

tbettis
04-18-2010, 09:09 PM
yeah i just hit it with 33-0-0

dave k
04-18-2010, 11:14 PM
yeah i just hit it with 33-0-0

That will do the trick!

cgaengineer
04-18-2010, 11:23 PM
That will do the trick!

That or some high N Vigoro or whatever is on sale from Home Depot...the grass don't care!
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Hawg City Lawns
04-21-2010, 01:58 AM
April 18, 2010

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx158/joshuabv/0418001333a.jpg
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx158/joshuabv/0418001333.jpg
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx158/joshuabv/0418001443.jpg

cgaengineer
04-21-2010, 07:43 AM
April 18, 2010

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx158/joshuabv/0418001333a.jpg
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx158/joshuabv/0418001333.jpg
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx158/joshuabv/0418001443.jpg

Looking good Hawg, do you reel mow?

Hawg City Lawns
04-21-2010, 11:19 AM
Looking good Hawg, do you reel mow?

sure dont i use a 21" rotary thats the only two yards i would be able to use a reel on if i had one

cgaengineer
04-21-2010, 11:25 AM
sure dont i use a 21" rotary thats the only two yards i would be able to use a reel on if i had one

You need to invest in a reel. Is that a customers lawn or your own?

Hawg City Lawns
04-21-2010, 02:49 PM
You need to invest in a reel. Is that a customers lawn or your own?

thats actually two of my customers in a row i tried to get both of them in the last picture i have a couple more total bermuda lawns but they are just not flat enough for a reel

dave k
04-22-2010, 10:27 AM
You need to have them put some beds around those trees!

worldsfinestchocolate
04-23-2010, 12:32 PM
Gentlemen,

I have been monitoring this thread for many months. I am a regular guy who installed bermuda sod about 5 years ago. It has looked like crap. I have been following the advice found here over last summer and this spring. I am hopeful that we can turn this thing around. I am too ashamed to post pics. I want to put down some sand because of your comments about them. How much and when? Do I aerate? When? Also, I only put down sod on a portion of my yard. Can I overseed the rest of the lawn with bermuda seed and then treat the whole lawn as if it were bermuda? I don't have an expensive reel mower, just a cheap non-motorized deal that I bought at Home Depot for $45 (open box). I am getting ready to buy a "real" reel mower from a landscape friend for $200. ANY suggestions for a beginner would be greatly appreciated. I have always wanted the "golf course" look you all have!

cgaengineer
04-23-2010, 02:58 PM
Gentlemen,

I have been monitoring this thread for many months. I am a regular guy who installed bermuda sod about 5 years ago. It has looked like crap. I have been following the advice found here over last summer and this spring. I am hopeful that we can turn this thing around. I am too ashamed to post pics. I want to put down some sand because of your comments about them. How much and when? Do I aerate? When? Also, I only put down sod on a portion of my yard. Can I overseed the rest of the lawn with bermuda seed and then treat the whole lawn as if it were bermuda? I don't have an expensive reel mower, just a cheap non-motorized deal that I bought at Home Depot for $45 (open box). I am getting ready to buy a "real" reel mower from a landscape friend for $200. ANY suggestions for a beginner would be greatly appreciated. I have always wanted the "golf course" look you all have!

As far as sand 1 cubic yard per 1000 sq feet is a good start, you may need less and you mat need more. The best time to apply sand is June when bermuda is growing fast, core aerate prior to sanding to limit layering effect. as far as over seeding, you would likely be overseeding a hybrid bermuda which has a sterile seed and is propagated by sod, sprigs or plugs...it will not match. The closest seed to a hybrid is Princess 77 bermuda seed so your option is to have a mismatched bermuda lawn or to sprig, sod or plug...sod being the best option for the quickest establishment.

As far as reel mowers, a push type will never work on bermuda...I assume you found that out? Take a look at a Locke, TruCut or a Trimmer...in that order, Locke being the best money can by for a home lawn and TruCut being the next best for the money. Trimmer is actually a couple notches down from the Locke or TruCut due to the lack of a drive clutch. This means if the drum is turning the reel is turning, this makes transport to a location difficult at in order to move the unit you either have to push it or drive it with reel spinning without cutting grass.


Please send some pictures...trust me, your lawn is NOT the worst we have ever seen. If you prefer to email pictures send me a Private Message and Ill send you my email address.

JShe8918
04-24-2010, 01:09 PM
So i have some scalped photo's from last week. i will post some more photo's this week of my lawn now that i have fertilized and scalped it! It should start looking alot better. Also here is a photo of my Locke CL130. I need to adjust the reel to the bed knife and also have the reel ground. Here they are!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4912.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4913.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4931.jpg

Jonathan

worldsfinestchocolate
04-24-2010, 01:09 PM
cgaengineer -
Thanks for your response. As far as the pics, I will take some and post soon. We covered over an old pool and I sodded the area. We have a fairly big yard for our area and most of it is a mixed type with weeds and etc. With the sand, do I try to level it all out the first year. There are some low spots that would have about 3-4 inches of sand (maybe not that much). Not sure I understand what you mean by the "layering effect"... With the overseeding, I am not sure having mixed types of bermuda would be a big deal as most of it is mixed bermuda, fescue and etc. I just want a great looking lawn on that part. (Would a healthy bermuda turf eventually take over the other lawn?)

The mower I am buying is a TruCut. So I lucked out there!

JShe8918
04-24-2010, 01:11 PM
OH and Dave i need you to tell me where all the grease points are and also why the chain keeps popping off. The sprockets are in good condition but it is jumping off. Is it popping off when i hit something or what?

JShe8918
04-24-2010, 01:12 PM
cgaengineer -
Thanks for your response. As far as the pics, I will take some and post soon. We covered over an old pool and I sodded the area. We have a fairly big yard for our area and most of it is a mixed type with weeds and etc. With the sand, do I try to level it all out the first year. There are some low spots that would have about 3-4 inches of sand (maybe not that much). Not sure I understand what you mean by the "layering effect"... With the overseeding, I am not sure having mixed types of bermuda would be a big deal as most of it is mixed bermuda, fescue and etc. I just want a great looking lawn on that part. (Would a healthy bermuda turf eventually take over the other lawn?)

The mower I am buying is a TruCut. So I lucked out there!

NO!!!! The most sand to be laid at a time should be 1/2" to 3/4" AT THE MOST!!! Just do it gradually. My recomendation for places that are that low is digging up the sod and putting some soil under it to level it if you need 4"s of sand LoL! Your yard sounds like mine almost!

worldsfinestchocolate
04-24-2010, 01:26 PM
NO!!!! The most sand to be laid at a time should be 1/2" to 3/4" AT THE MOST!!! Just do it gradually. My recomendation for places that are that low is digging up the sod and putting some soil under it to level it if you need 4"s of sand LoL! Your yard sounds like mine almost!

Thanks for the info. on the sand.... I may have exaggerated just a touch on the amount of sand. It may be an "1 to "1.5 that I am low.

dave k
04-24-2010, 04:39 PM
OH and Dave i need you to tell me where all the grease points are and also why the chain keeps popping off. The sprockets are in good condition but it is jumping off. Is it popping off when i hit something or what?

Jonathan, check that the idler is floating free on the side that the chain runs the reel and is not to tight that it doesn't float.

Also you can buy a guard that throws the clippings forward and not behind, I have both and like the forward throw best.

Will e-mail you about the grease jerk fittings, or just look over it real well, there isn't many, one in between the drive wheel and on back wheel.

dave k
04-24-2010, 09:48 PM
OH and Dave i need you to tell me where all the grease points are and also why the chain keeps popping off. The sprockets are in good condition but it is jumping off. Is it popping off when i hit something or what?

Jonathan, I just sent you the manual for your Locke, check your e-mail
Dave:waving:

JShe8918
04-25-2010, 01:10 AM
Idler? You lost me there. Wow. Well then i guess i have greased everything. My grass still hasn't greened up much. I guess i need to lower my watering. I am watering on sprays 10 mins per day. LoL. Maybe that is a problem! IDK though.

cgaengineer
04-25-2010, 01:14 AM
Idler? You lost me there. Wow. Well then i guess i have greased everything. My grass still hasn't greened up much. I guess i need to lower my watering. I am watering on sprays 10 mins per day. LoL. Maybe that is a problem! IDK though.

The idler sprocket is neither a drive gear or a driven gear...it is usually setup so that it can be tensioned. If the idler bearing is worn the chain will fall off due to the lack of proper tension.

No amount of water is going to green it up if the temps stay cool like they have been. As much as I hate hot weather I am ready to topdress and get my lawn greened up so I will stop messing with it.
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Chestnut Oaks Prez
04-28-2010, 11:45 PM
Starting to green a little. Got a new toy also. Had 2 20"s.

cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 12:03 AM
You are going to like that larger TruCut! I enjoy using my 30" Legacy since I can cut my lawn in about 15-20 minutes now. I didn't mind using my 20" TruCut, but my own lawn 2-3 times per week along with my customers I didn't have time to mess around and needed the ability to finish quickly.
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cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 12:04 AM
My lawn would finish greening up if we could have warmer nights for a change!
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Chestnut Oaks Prez
04-29-2010, 12:21 AM
42 here this morning. That want help much lol

cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 07:03 AM
42 here this morning. That want help much lol

Yeah I know, what is up with this weather...this is the craziest spring I can remember!
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JShe8918
04-29-2010, 01:19 PM
Yeah I know, what is up with this weather...this is the craziest spring I can remember!
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No kidding! What the heck are we haveing this cold nights for? It is starting to piss me off! The grass hasn't started hopping yet! I am ready for lots of growth that way i can start making some money!

Chris put up some photo's of your lawn. Green or not. I want to compare!

cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 01:23 PM
I'll get some up tonight if I get my customers finished before dark.
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JShe8918
04-29-2010, 01:48 PM
Must be nice being able to work! Today is my off day and i have a small problem. I got both of my new mowers and no truck to pull the with. The U joint and yoke snapped again! WE finally figured out why it is constantly eating those parts for dinner. I sheared off my alignment pins that go through my blocks. Which is to be expected i guess when you have 1183 ft. lbs. of torque and 713 hp! Dang right foot. LoL

JShe8918
04-29-2010, 02:38 PM
Photo's of my yard today. I just mowed it about 15 mins ago. Maybe one day it will look nearly as good as dave or chris's. Still little color and little growth. These cool nights are seem to be stunning my yard more than other local bermuda yards. IDK why. Could it be because mine isn't well established being it hasn't even been down for a year? Lets hear the constructive criticism. Also i know i need to edge, blow, and mulch. OH and i also know i need something on the corner to ancor my house and i comitted crepe murder.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4936.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4935.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4940.jpg

Also the stripes aren't straight due to being in a hurry!

Thanks for looking!

cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 10:18 PM
Mine looks like yours...spotty but mostly green. I'm going to send in a soil sample...my lawn may need something.
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cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 10:19 PM
Jonathan...don't get anywhere near my crepes with your loppers...just stay in Alabama!
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JShe8918
04-29-2010, 10:34 PM
Haha! It had a bad kanker from where an employee loped them off straight instead of at an angle so i removed that. I am going to select 3 stems or branches from where i cut it this year and remove all the rest so it can grow in a tree form like it should! If they hadn't ever been cut they would be about 7 feet tall by now! ARGH!!!

Jonathan.

dave k
04-29-2010, 11:05 PM
Photo's of my yard today. I just mowed it about 15 mins ago. Maybe one day it will look nearly as good as dave or chris's. Still little color and little growth. These cool nights are seem to be stunning my yard more than other local bermuda yards. IDK why. Could it be because mine isn't well established being it hasn't even been down for a year? Lets hear the constructive criticism. Also i know i need to edge, blow, and mulch. OH and i also know i need something on the corner to ancor my house and i comitted crepe murder.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4936.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4935.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4940.jpg

Also the stripes aren't straight due to being in a hurry!

Thanks for looking!

Looks good, topdressing will do wonders. And who said Bermuda doesn't stipe!

GrassIsGreenerLawnCare
04-29-2010, 11:35 PM
Here are mine...Cut with TruCut reel with roller at 1/2"

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/DSC_5128_sm.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/cgaengineer/DSC_5122_sm.jpg

that lawn deserves a TITLEIST PROVI sittin on it instead of a dunlop loco! lol nice work man. beautiful bermuda

GrassIsGreenerLawnCare
04-29-2010, 11:39 PM
just wondering why you guys send in samples for soil when u can just buy a kit yourself for like 10 bucks? j/w not bein a dik. do they do anything more than what the kits usually offer?

cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 11:49 PM
just wondering why you guys send in samples for soil when u can just buy a kit yourself for like 10 bucks? j/w not bein a dik. do they do anything more than what the kits usually offer?

I read a review on home soil test kits and everyone of them failed.
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cgaengineer
04-29-2010, 11:50 PM
that lawn deserves a TITLEIST PROVI sittin on it instead of a dunlop loco! lol nice work man. beautiful bermuda

I'll see if I can get that brand at WalMart...I found that one in the back of the office.
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worldsfinestchocolate
04-30-2010, 05:17 PM
As far as sand 1 cubic yard per 1000 sq feet is a good start, you may need less and you mat need more. The best time to apply sand is June when bermuda is growing fast, core aerate prior to sanding to limit layering effect. as far as over seeding, you would likely be overseeding a hybrid bermuda which has a sterile seed and is propagated by sod, sprigs or plugs...it will not match. The closest seed to a hybrid is Princess 77 bermuda seed so your option is to have a mismatched bermuda lawn or to sprig, sod or plug...sod being the best option for the quickest establishment.

As far as reel mowers, a push type will never work on bermuda...I assume you found that out? Take a look at a Locke, TruCut or a Trimmer...in that order, Locke being the best money can by for a home lawn and TruCut being the next best for the money. Trimmer is actually a couple notches down from the Locke or TruCut due to the lack of a drive clutch. This means if the drum is turning the reel is turning, this makes transport to a location difficult at in order to move the unit you either have to push it or drive it with reel spinning without cutting grass.


Please send some pictures...trust me, your lawn is NOT the worst we have ever seen. If you prefer to email pictures send me a Private Message and Ill send you my email address.

Ok...here are some pics. Putting in a pool and deck to the left (bobcat tracks so ignore those for now)...HELP??

JShe8918
05-01-2010, 01:04 PM
Oh that will fill in for sure! Hit is with an aerator, some water, and quality fertilizer and by the end of the summer it will be filled in! What variety of bermuda do you have! I am hoping my back yard will fill in by the end of the summer and mines is 100 times worse than that! I will post pictures. I am sure i can make it fill in in atleast 2 years hopefully one but that is wishful thinking! Your lucky though i don't see all that many weeds in your turf. So that will make things alot easier!

worldsfinestchocolate
05-01-2010, 03:39 PM
Oh that will fill in for sure! Hit is with an aerator, some water, and quality fertilizer and by the end of the summer it will be filled in! What variety of bermuda do you have! I am hoping my back yard will fill in by the end of the summer and mines is 100 times worse than that! I will post pictures. I am sure i can make it fill in in atleast 2 years hopefully one but that is wishful thinking! Your lucky though i don't see all that many weeds in your turf. So that will make things alot easier!

Thanks for the encouragement! I don't know what kind of sod. I bought a bunch of pallets from SuperSod of SC...I didn't even think to ask, and probably at the time I didn't know there were different types of Bermuda.

tbettis
05-01-2010, 04:39 PM
a few pics so critique all u want.

tbettis
05-01-2010, 04:48 PM
and some more

tbettis
05-01-2010, 04:56 PM
and a few mo

tbettis
05-01-2010, 05:01 PM
and a few more

tbettis
05-01-2010, 05:06 PM
dark brown spots are dormant spots and light brown spots are where I went haywire with the trimec plus herbicide. Like they say it really is a hot mix and u only need to mist the weed to kill it but I was hardheaded. Current following dave and engineer program and had started gradually bringing down mower. currently cutting with walker mower on level 3 until im ready to topdress and I just hit it with scotts super turbuilder 32-0-5. flowerbed is my version of augusta national clubhouse pic that I was inspired upon.

cgaengineer
05-01-2010, 05:29 PM
That looks good Tbet, that will green up in short order and once you topdress it will look even better.

I liked how you blended that fire hydrant in with the yellow flowers!

superintendent
05-01-2010, 06:27 PM
I am a Golf Course Superintendent and last yr I seeded my yard with Riveria bermuda. Right now you can't see the bermuda, I will be killing the Rye when the rain stops. In about another month I will show yall my yard. I will using the most expensive fertilizer that you can buy. I will be going out at a total of 5lbs of the product and we will see what it will look like. If the product holds up to it name I will let yall know.

cgaengineer
05-01-2010, 06:33 PM
I am a Golf Course Superintendent and last yr I seeded my yard with Riveria bermuda. Right now you can't see the bermuda, I will be killing the Rye when the rain stops. In about another month I will show yall my yard. I will using the most expensive fertilizer that you can buy. I will be going out at a total of 5lbs of the product and we will see what it will look like. If the product holds up to it name I will let yall know.

Sounds good Super...sounds like we got a little competition going on! I like it. I'm a cheap skate so I buy only the crap fertilizers...you are competing with a red neck with a reel mower!

I pulled my soil sample cores this morning so I will take them to JDL on Monday and hopefully have them back on Friday.
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Tyler's Lawn Maintenance
05-01-2010, 07:14 PM
Photo's of my yard today. I just mowed it about 15 mins ago. Maybe one day it will look nearly as good as dave or chris's. Still little color and little growth. These cool nights are seem to be stunning my yard more than other local bermuda yards. IDK why. Could it be because mine isn't well established being it hasn't even been down for a year? Lets hear the constructive criticism. Also i know i need to edge, blow, and mulch. OH and i also know i need something on the corner to ancor my house and i comitted crepe murder.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4936.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4935.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_4940.jpg

Also the stripes aren't straight due to being in a hurry!

Thanks for looking!

How in the heck do you get your Bermuda to stripe??? It is so hard to stripe my Bermuda! What height do you mow it at?
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cgaengineer
05-01-2010, 07:30 PM
You are going to need a reel to get it to stripe...its short lived though.
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JShe8918
05-01-2010, 08:51 PM
How in the heck do you get your Bermuda to stripe??? It is so hard to stripe my Bermuda! What height do you mow it at?
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Well it has to do with the mower. I have a locke and from what i understand it stripes alot better than other kinds of reels due to the rollers. BUT also i imagine towards the middle of summer it isn't going to stripe nearly as well. Because after reel mowing for so long the grass begins to grow horizontaliy more than vertically! But it is early in the season and we will see.

You are going to need a reel to get it to stripe...its short lived though.
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Well my stripes lasted until today when i remowed it again. They were still there. I am also trying to burn stripes in by mowing the same direction everytime. The sharpness of the stripes fade quickly. But they still remain for a while now. Since the grass isn't growing a heck of alot!

Falcon50EX
05-01-2010, 09:21 PM
your kidding right? I hope you are joking. What the heck am i going to do then? What if i give him those pills that are suppose to keep it from burning the yard? How bout then?

They work and well I have used them on my dog for 3 years not problem :usflag:

tbettis
05-01-2010, 09:56 PM
engineer im gonna need some insight on topdressing so when im ready ill let u and the forum know. dont even know where or how to begin doing it. Itll be sometime at the end of may though cause my work schedule is hell this month

JShe8918
05-02-2010, 12:01 AM
engineer im gonna need some insight on topdressing so when im ready ill let u and the forum know. dont even know where or how to begin doing it. Itll be sometime at the end of may though cause my work schedule is hell this month

Well to be honest the time of the year to do it isn't until June or July if you have an irrigation system or something similar. Bermuda doesn't really start growing rapidly until hot weather and very warm nights. I mean it is growing actively now but nothing like it will be in june, july, and august!!! IT should be fairly simple. Scalp as low as possible, aerate, fertize, spread 1/4 to 1/2 inch of river sand mixed with erth food and level with a push broom. Water the stew out of it. The end! For now!!!

JShe8918
05-07-2010, 01:38 PM
More progress! It is getting denser and the color is getting better. It hasn't been mowed in about 4 days now!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4976.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4977.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4975.jpg

Gonna spray it for the small amount of weeds i have tomorrow. I am thinking either.... Trimec or Celsius?

JShe8918
05-07-2010, 01:46 PM
How in the heck do you get your Bermuda to stripe??? It is so hard to stripe my Bermuda! What height do you mow it at?
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1/2" Dave and Chris are my mentors on this! I fertilized the stew out of it with 34-0-0 about 2 weeks ago. And when i say that i mean i put out almost a whole 40 lb bag on that small front yard of mine. The yard is probably like 5K sq. ft. Tops!

dave k
05-07-2010, 04:44 PM
1/2" Dave and Chris are my mentors on this! I fertilized the stew out of it with 34-0-0 about 2 weeks ago. And when i say that i mean i put out almost a whole 40 lb bag on that small front yard of mine. The yard is probably like 5K sq. ft. Tops!

NOW I know why you have been cutting it every day, you have too!:laugh:

JShe8918
05-07-2010, 04:55 PM
NOW I know why you have been cutting it every day, you have too!:laugh:

Haha!! I measured the yard today and it is only like 1300 sq feet. The driveway andflower beds take up most of the square footage! So if i figure that i put 30 lbs down of 34-0-0 that means that i put down 10.2 lbs of nitrogen on 1300 sq feet!

Jon

dave k
05-07-2010, 04:58 PM
Jonathan, I sent you an e-mail about Cornerstone.

mx315
05-12-2010, 10:00 AM
Anyone want to share their monthly program? Fert, chems, sanding, mowing schedule & watering... I'm putting in a pool soon and plan to sod Bermuda when it's done.
Thanks

asigafoos
05-12-2010, 08:49 PM
Had clovers & weeds when I moved in. Killed it, tilled it, put in 3yds of soil & seeded. How long should I wait to mow & how short should I cut it?

dave k
05-12-2010, 09:37 PM
What seed did you use?
It looks like it maybe Common Bermuda, but it isn't hot enough for Bermuda to germinate.

asigafoos
05-12-2010, 09:47 PM
What seed did you use?
It looks like it maybe Common Bermuda, but it isn't hot enough for Bermuda to germinate.

I just used Pennington Turf Type Bermuda-grass Blend. I just put it down 2 weeks ago. Its been above 80 degrees here in Austin for about a month now. We're getting into the low 90's already.

dave k
05-12-2010, 10:00 PM
From what I've read about common Bermuda, it looks better tall, like 2.5", but you can experiment with it.

cgaengineer
05-12-2010, 10:59 PM
1.5" for common is the suggested height.
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JShe8918
05-15-2010, 04:27 PM
Haha FINALLY a GOLF BALL shot!!!! Haha... Let me know what you think. Def not a nice as chris's or daves but it is improving by leaps and bounds! Dave i didn't mow it for a week and a day and wow. I couldn't believe the growth it had! It was atleast 1 1/4 inches!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_5001.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Yard%20project/IMG_5002.jpg

cgaengineer
05-15-2010, 04:35 PM
That looks great Jonathan...mine is still healing from the fungus.
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tbettis
05-15-2010, 04:38 PM
looks good but will be better if u edge by the street