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s470648
04-20-2009, 02:11 PM
What is the most effective way to control this little bugger?

tremor
04-20-2009, 02:22 PM
2,4-D, MCPP & Dicamba blends work fine. Trimec, Triplet, Threeway, etc.

s470648
04-20-2009, 02:44 PM
Is it too late to apply now, since they all sprung out last week? :)

betmr
04-20-2009, 04:03 PM
No they need to be actively growing, and the bulbs will sprout at different times. So you'll need to spray as they appear.

RigglePLC
04-20-2009, 06:29 PM
They are hard to wet. Add surfactant or spreader-sticker.

Whitey4
04-20-2009, 11:22 PM
They are hard to wet. Add surfactant or spreader-sticker.

That is my issue with them.... little leaf surface, and it tends to repel fluids. I had one house with a boatlaod of them in the empty garden (annual and veggie) beds, and they laughed at two apps of Roundup pro with an an added surfactant. I ended up cultivating and hand weeding the dern things.

Now, I think I will just dig the buggers out and throw some seed down. Talkin about in the turf here... this house (new customer) had some that looked like store bought green onions (scallions).

fireman1173005
04-22-2009, 06:14 PM
I mix Dismiss with 2-4 D and I even throw in some pre emergent for good measure, make sure and use surfactant. The Dismiss works like a charm but I always tell my customers that it will take two rounds for complete control.

Brian

fireman1173005
04-22-2009, 06:16 PM
That is my issue with them.... little leaf surface, and it tends to repel fluids. I had one house with a boatlaod of them in the empty garden (annual and veggie) beds, and they laughed at two apps of Roundup pro with an an added surfactant. I ended up cultivating and hand weeding the dern things.

Now, I think I will just dig the buggers out and throw some seed down. Talkin about in the turf here... this house (new customer) had some that looked like store bought green onions (scallions).

good luck with the round up, it will knock them back but won't kill em I've never heard digging them up doing any good either.


Go with my last post, dismiss!!!

Brian

s470648
04-22-2009, 06:54 PM
Hey Fireman.... where do you get Dismiss?

Whitey4
04-22-2009, 08:36 PM
good luck with the round up, it will knock them back but won't kill em I've never heard digging them up doing any good either.


Go with my last post, dismiss!!!

Brian

Digging them up works, but few people will do it for customers. Just like dandelions, get the whole thing and it's gone. Nearly imposible to do in turf, and Dismiss is prohibited here. Digging them out and spot seeding is the only thing that has worked for me in turf. Maybe 4 apps of a 3 way and quicksilver might work, but 4 apps costs serious $. Then there is the danger of turf damage to deal with.

bj22
04-22-2009, 08:58 PM
red zone smokes it

Whitey4
04-22-2009, 09:20 PM
I don't use esthers. My truck and storage shed can get well over 90 degrees. That means I have a tougher time with some herbicides, but I don'r have to wirry about explosions and fires. That is a trade off I can like with.

fireman1173005
04-22-2009, 09:49 PM
oooh, no Dismiss huh, that sucks, what about Sedgehammer, never used it but I've heard it works, just not as good as Dismiss

Naturalturf
04-22-2009, 10:00 PM
Ortho used to make a wax bar (about 3' long) that was basically weed b gon and you dragged it over wild onion, the wax stuck well and it zapped them.
not sure they still make it and probably only good for smaller areas....

greendoctor
04-23-2009, 03:18 AM
I don't use esthers. My truck and storage shed can get well over 90 degrees. That means I have a tougher time with some herbicides, but I don'r have to wirry about explosions and fires. That is a trade off I can like with.

The flashpoint of esters is well above 90 degrees. http://www.cdms.net/LDat/mp1CG013.pdf This is the MSDS for a 2,4-D ester product that I use all the time. I have never had a problem with my esters being a fire hazard and this is in a climate where it can be at or near 90 most of the year. On cool season turf, I believe chlorsulfuron is another option for onion control. This is sold as Corsair. Do not apply to ryegrass or tall fescue.

greendoctor
04-23-2009, 03:23 AM
Ortho used to make a wax bar (about 3' long) that was basically weed b gon and you dragged it over wild onion, the wax stuck well and it zapped them.
not sure they still make it and probably only good for smaller areas....

That used to be the thing back in the 1960's. I remember seeing it advertised in old home and garden publications. It was 2,4-D ester in a wax bar that was intended to be drawn behind a riding mower. Because it would stick and not wash away with rain or irrigation, weeds were done. I would love to have that back in the size of a small wand to spot treat things like sowthistle or pigweed. Those two weeds grow a foot a week here. Freaks customers out when they see that.

SILVERSTREAK INC
04-23-2009, 05:47 AM
as long as you use sticker, even roundup kills them, wouldnt be wise for lawn areas though, i use it in beds, takes about 2 weeks to see results