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TheOnlyBamBam
04-21-2009, 10:01 PM
I recently had a lady call me and wanted me to mow her 7 acres. I'm only used to 1-2 acres. So do you bid differntly?I'll be cutting with a 60 in. The land is plain and flat. no trimming. also im wanting a new mower and this could provide income along with the money to make payments on the new mower. and comments, suggestions? thanks

topsites
04-21-2009, 10:04 PM
$205 ($29.28 / acre)
I suppose you could do it for 200 but it's getting a bit tight, 190 at the absolute lowest.
Might try start out with 210?

QualityLawnCare4u
04-21-2009, 10:50 PM
Let me offer one thing that you DO NOT want to do. That is to buy a piece of equipment for one account. I did that once and lost the account in a very short time to someone who would do it for almost free. Now on the bid what kind of grass is it? When I get a call in my area for large acreage it is always dang bahai grass. I don't care what the mower mfg say you can cut so many acres per hour blah blah you won't do it with this grass. I would say without seeing it though around 200-225 here would be pushing it. You will see some on here that will be a lot higher and some lower. Depends on what your area will bring.

4.3mudder
04-21-2009, 11:36 PM
Should not take you over 2 hours is you were moving pretty quick. So roughly 100 bucks an hour gross.

Dang, I cut 27 acres for $700 with a 5 foot bush hog, maybe I'm getting jipped?? oh well.

ncls
04-21-2009, 11:43 PM
3 hours tops. How much do you charge hourly? Outside of Cleveland, we would have to charge around 120.00 to be competitive. Might get underbidded.

topsites
04-22-2009, 01:16 AM
Let me offer one thing that you DO NOT want to do. That is to buy a piece of equipment for one account. I did that once and lost the account

Yup, rule of business, don't do that.

When I get a call in my area for large acreage it is always dang bahai grass.

LMFAO well all right at least I know I'm not the only one!
Chickweed and centipede, patches of clover for a speed burst and stalks of onion grass for 'flavor'
Don't forget the occasional brick, tree stump, and man-size hole :laugh:

I don't care what the mower mfg say you can cut so many acres per hour blah blah you won't do it with this grass.

Yup, 7 acres with a 60" take you around 4-5 hours with trimming, and hustle.
6 hours if it's bad, all day if it's *&%^

IHusky
04-22-2009, 01:24 AM
Let me offer one thing that you DO NOT want to do. That is to buy a piece of equipment for one account.

Thats some good advice.

ALC-GregH
04-22-2009, 09:13 AM
Yup, rule of business, don't do that.



LMFAO well all right at least I know I'm not the only one!
Chickweed and centipede, patches of clover for a speed burst and stalks of onion grass for 'flavor'
Don't forget the occasional brick, tree stump, and man-size hole :laugh:



Yup, 7 acres with a 60" take you around 4-5 hours with trimming, and hustle.
6 hours if it's bad, all day if it's *&%^

I cut 2 acres in a hour. That's with lots of trees and a huge hill. You must be using a 21 push mower. :)

topsites
04-22-2009, 09:50 AM
I cut 2 acres in a hour. That's with lots of trees and a huge hill. You must be using a 21 push mower. :)

60" just like yours, I'm not trying to plow into a heat pump but let me guess you took the ROPS off yours, too?
I reckon that's the kind of guy we'll be reading about in the obits this year.

Hell on Blades
04-22-2009, 10:27 AM
Lets get back to the initial post -- only buy the equipment if you need it for more than one job... But also, wait until you have the money for it!!! -- DO NOT USE CREDIT..

Metro Lawn
04-22-2009, 11:16 AM
Around here that job would go for under $100

Weedas_Lawn_Care
04-22-2009, 05:26 PM
:Di would say at least $200 but go and check it out and see what you think about it now that you have the ball park figures in mind you could get there and there could be a hill as steep as a bluff and trees everywhere with landscape beds everywhere then your looking at some big $$$:D but dont underbid yourself and try not to let anyone else underbid you :gunsfirin

4.3mudder
04-22-2009, 06:05 PM
COme to think of it. I do acre and a half for 75.

ALC-GregH
04-22-2009, 09:50 PM
60" just like yours, I'm not trying to plow into a heat pump but let me guess you took the ROPS off yours, too?
I reckon that's the kind of guy we'll be reading about in the obits this year.

whats plowing into a heat pump have to do with cutting 2 acres an hour? Your damn right I took the ROPS off. After standing it on the rear bumper when it caught a branch, it was off. I don't cut any hills that make me feel like I'd need it so you won't be reading about me.

AllDaymower
04-25-2009, 04:43 PM
Yeah don't buy a machine for one job, stick with your regular hour or a little bit more don't go crazy, because theirs always a crazy dumb person that will underbid you,

Rob

DennisF
04-25-2009, 05:37 PM
If you bid $30 per acre you'll probably get under bid. I would try 27.50 per acre. With a 60 inch ZTR you should easily be able to cut 2 acres+ per hour.

DennisF
04-25-2009, 05:41 PM
3 hours tops. How much do you charge hourly? Outside of Cleveland, we would have to charge around 120.00 to be competitive. Might get underbidded.


Do you mean $120 per hour or $120 for the 7 acre mowing job?

Pennington Lawncare
04-26-2009, 08:29 AM
With no trimming and only mowing then I'd say $200 is a fair price around here. Is this a bi-weekly lawn? I have a lot about that size that I mow and it can get pretty high even in 2 weeks. Do you already have a 60 inch commercial mower? What size engine? If you don't already have a mower with that wide of a cut and at least 27 hp and preferably higher then I don't know if I'd rely on that yard to pay for a new mower with those specs.

dcondon
04-26-2009, 09:01 AM
3 hours tops. How much do you charge hourly? Outside of Cleveland, we would have to charge around 120.00 to be competitive. Might get underbidded.

Thats about the same price in my area also.

topsites
04-26-2009, 09:15 AM
whats plowing into a heat pump have to do with cutting 2 acres an hour?

I guess you could say age slows us down :p

It's all good, sorry about the argument.

mnglocker
04-26-2009, 10:20 AM
If you bid $30 per acre you'll probably get under bid. I would try 27.50 per acre. With a 60 inch ZTR you should easily be able to cut 2 acres+ per hour.

I do 6 acres in 1.5 hours with a 48", half of it is on a slope too. WIth a 60" you should be able to spank it even quicker, don't over bid this either. Bog lots are easy work. You'll only have to unload once to do 7 acres, think about that.

Also, if you're machine lays stripes it makes for a great way to show off you skills and get your name out there with a yard sign or via word of mouth. Strips that run for ever make for a great presentation.

DennisF
04-26-2009, 02:29 PM
I do 6 acres in 1.5 hours with a 48", half of it is on a slope too. WIth a 60" you should be able to spank it even quicker, don't over bid this either. Bog lots are easy work. You'll only have to unload once to do 7 acres, think about that.

Also, if you're machine lays stripes it makes for a great way to show off you skills and get your name out there with a yard sign or via word of mouth. Strips that run for ever make for a great presentation.


Let's do some math:

1 acre = 43,560 square feet

6 acres X 43,560 square ft. = 261,360 square ft.

1.5 hours = 90 minutes


261,360 / 90 = 2904 square feet per minute.

1 Minute = 60 seconds

2904 sf / 60 seconds is 484 square feet.... PER SECOND.

width of mow = 4 feet

484 sf / 4 feet (width of mower) = 121 feet per second (speed of the mower).

What you are claiming is that you can mow 484 square feet per second with a 48 inch mower. That means that your mower speed covers 121 lineal feet per second.

Now, I'm not saying you're blowing smoke here, but I would have to see that feat performed before I would believe it.

JNyz
04-26-2009, 02:48 PM
I think you need to check your math.

DennisF
04-26-2009, 02:57 PM
I think you need to check your math.

What's wrong with the math?

DennisF
04-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Rechecked my math:

2904 / 60 seconds = 48.4 sf per second

48.4 sf / 4 feet (width of mower) = 12.1 feet per second mower speed. Not 121 feet per second.

JNyz
04-26-2009, 06:07 PM
Now don't you think 12.1sq ft is possible???????????

turfbuilder
04-26-2009, 06:16 PM
6 acres cut with a 48inch some being sloped in 1.5 hrs ain't happening.
I mow a flat 6 acre lot with a 62inch Z in about 2.2 hrs and I'm flying.
:weightlifter:

TheC-Master
04-26-2009, 06:21 PM
I do 6 acres in 1.5 hours with a 48", half of it is on a slope too. WIth a 60" you should be able to spank it even quicker, don't over bid this either. Bog lots are easy work. You'll only have to unload once to do 7 acres, think about that.

Also, if you're machine lays stripes it makes for a great way to show off you skills and get your name out there with a yard sign or via word of mouth. Strips that run for ever make for a great presentation.

Yea that should be simple. I did 1.7 acres on a 35 degree slope with my 36 inch walk behind in 45 minutes and it was the first cut today, new customer. Big lots are really good work.

GOOSEHANSON
04-26-2009, 07:47 PM
9 acres..52" on flat ground, a little bit of trimming...3 hours from the time I drop the gate until I am in the truck...$100.00 an hour is a good price...

hitechlm
04-26-2009, 07:50 PM
Yup, rule of business, don't do that.



LMFAO well all right at least I know I'm not the only one!
Chickweed and centipede, patches of clover for a speed burst and stalks of onion grass for 'flavor'
Don't forget the occasional brick, tree stump, and man-size hole :laugh:



Yup, 7 acres with a 60" take you around 4-5 hours with trimming, and hustle.
6 hours if it's bad, all day if it's *&%^

4-5 hrs lol, i mow 18 schools, one is 95 acres of grass, it takes us 7hrs with 2 60" ztr's, and 1 52" wb with no velke, and two guys trimming. you should be able to mow 5 acres an hr if its weekly with no problem

DennisF
04-26-2009, 07:57 PM
Now don't you think 12.1sq ft is possible???????????


No.... 12.1 linear feet per second is 8.25 miles per hour. That means the mower would have to be constantly moving at 8.25 mph for 90 minutes to mow 6 acres.

Do you think that the mower could be operated at that speed or faster on a 6 acre lawn without stopping and turning?

What say you?

hitechlm
04-26-2009, 08:05 PM
No.... 12.1 linear feet per minute is 8.25 miles per hour. That means the mower would have to be constantly moving at 8.25 mph for 90 minutes to mow 6 acres.

Do you think that the mower could be operated at that speed or faster on a 6 acre lawn with stopping and turning?

What say you?

We run our ztr's wide open all day, at the end of the dat we slow them down do to the blades getting dull

JNyz
04-26-2009, 08:51 PM
No.... 12.1 linear feet per second is 8.25 miles per hour. That means the mower would have to be constantly moving at 8.25 mph for 90 minutes to mow 6 acres.

Do you think that the mower could be operated at that speed or faster on a 6 acre lawn without stopping and turning?

What say you?

I didn't do the math, no time for that BS, looking at it I knew it was wrong to start with. He is stating he can mow 48 sq. ft. per second. How much can a WB mow per sec?