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TL1981
04-23-2009, 07:33 PM
I have been doing some looking around at local dealers at WBs, ZTRs and just today got interested in the Wright Standers. I really like the idea of the versatility they offer for small/med residential properties which is what I am targeting. What do you guys think... 36" or 42"? They are essentially the same price. I know the 36" would be awesome for the small gates but for the most part the 42 should do just fine I think.

What do you Wright Standers owners think???

Yater
04-23-2009, 07:37 PM
I did a search today on standers. There's a lot of information to sift through if you use the search function.

ed2hess
04-23-2009, 07:46 PM
Well we have a Sentar Sport 36" for about 4 years. Under heavy use they have some problems. We are presently having a new engine but on at 1900 hours. We do a lot of small 10K size yards and have come to the conclusion a WB does just fine and a lot cheaper. We just got the new SnapperPro dual hydro with adj. deck. We will not buy any more standers too expensive and no big advantages. Wecontinue to use several scag hydro and old snappers that are dual.

Landmark Lawnscapes LLC
04-23-2009, 08:08 PM
I love using wright standers, the versatility of these mowers is matched by none. You can mow steeper grades and more area than any walk-behind. I have used walk behinds in the past, being able to stand on a mower and not have to walk is very nice. I would mow maybe 8-10 medium sized residential yards with a walk-behind in one day, I would be exhausted at the end of the day. When we changed from walk-behinds to the standers we never looked back. They are a little tricky to get used to but after a few yards you get the hang of it rather easily. We went from averaging 8-10 medium sized yards to mowing a minimum of 25 yards a day. I highly recommend the standers to anyone interested. It will definitely improve your productivity.

Hope this helps.

ejojr
04-23-2009, 08:16 PM
awesome machines. we run 4 of them everyday, with few problems. regular maintenance, the occasional belt or blade switch, they cut great. plus, they save a lot of space on the trailers. Only thing I noticed is that the catchers only seem to last a year or so before the rot out on the bottom, and the mesh breaks.

ed2hess
04-24-2009, 04:20 PM
We took a look at data between two crews one with Sentar Sport and the other guys had a Scag dual hydro. There was basically no difference in the number of small yards we did over almost a full year of watching the data. You can only go so fast on small lawns and you have to be alot more careful with the Sentar or you can make divits in turns. I don't know where you get all those gains? And the sentar now cost twice as much and has more problems than most walkbehinds.

BCL Services
04-24-2009, 05:08 PM
We took a look at data between two crews one with Sentar Sport and the other guys had a Scag dual hydro. There was basically no difference in the number of small yards we did over almost a full year of watching the data. You can only go so fast on small lawns and you have to be alot more careful with the Sentar or you can make divits in turns. I don't know where you get all those gains? And the sentar now cost twice as much and has more problems than most walkbehinds.

I don't know how you are not seeing the gains? More problems, that is just crazy. They are bulletproof. But hey go with what works for you.....:walking:

pugs
04-24-2009, 06:22 PM
Sentar Sport is really a different mower and can have more problems.

Hydro walkbehind 36 probably lookin at 4k+ new(bobcat, scag, toro...)
Stander 36 I think we are selling for about 5k+tax

Even a Sentar Sport 36 shouldnt be close to 8k...

ed2hess
04-24-2009, 09:33 PM
I don't know how you are not seeing the gains? More problems, that is just crazy. They are bulletproof. But hey go with what works for you.....:walking:

Here is a list:

ed2hess
04-24-2009, 09:45 PM
Here is a list:

1. Kaw dropped piston at 1900 hours....I service weekly ran synthetic
2. Spindles went out at 600 and then 1200 and then I put in scag spindles
3. Starter relay goes out about every 6 months
4. Hydro belts go at 6 months....have you tried replacing one?
5. Hydro belt idler out at 2 year point....even harder than putting on belt
6. RH bushing out at 4 years....probably will have to disassemble unit
to replace that
7. Front wheel bushings for forks worn at 2 years...greased weekly
8. Stupid brake device wears tires down .....got bungy cords holding them.
9. Interlock mechanism on the brake has all kinds of wear in it and now
we actuate manually to start the engine.
10 Throttle cable breaks yearly.....routing is just bad
11. Hydro lines wore holes in them due to sitting on engine...had to re- engineer all the lines with heavy tubing.
12. Kaw leaking oil under flywheel at around 500 hrs.
Now compared to Scag 36" or Snapper 36" with $500 Kohler on them and
spindles that never fail with twice the usage....well the cost is a LOT less. That engine will cost $2K alone. Done finished with these units. We will
keep that Stander for warranty of new engine then it will be sold.

lifetree
04-24-2009, 10:37 PM
... We do a lot of small 10K size yards and have come to the conclusion a WB does just fine and a lot cheaper. ...

... I would mow maybe 8-10 medium sized residential yards with a walk-behind in one day ... We went from averaging 8-10 medium sized yards to mowing a minimum of 25 yards a day. ...

We took a look at data between two crews one with Sentar Sport and the other guys had a Scag dual hydro. There was basically no difference in the number of small yards we did over almost a full year of watching the data. ...

1. Kaw dropped piston at 1900 hours....I service weekly ran synthetic
2. Spindles went out at 600 and then 1200 and then I put in scag spindles
3. Starter relay goes out about every 6 months
4. Hydro belts go at 6 months....have you tried replacing one?
5. Hydro belt idler out at 2 year point....even harder than putting on belt
6. RH bushing out at 4 years....probably will have to disassemble unit
to replace that
7. Front wheel bushings for forks worn at 2 years...greased weekly
8. Stupid brake device wears tires down .....got bungy cords holding them.
9. Interlock mechanism on the brake has all kinds of wear in it and now
we actuate manually to start the engine.
10 Throttle cable breaks yearly.....routing is just bad
11. Hydro lines wore holes in them due to sitting on engine...had to re- engineer all the lines with heavy tubing.
12. Kaw leaking oil under flywheel at around 500 hrs.
Now compared to Scag 36" or Snapper 36" with $500 Kohler on them and
spindles that never fail with twice the usage....well the cost is a LOT less. That engine will cost $2K alone. Done finished with these units. We will
keep that Stander for warranty of new engine then it will be sold.

This is the first demonstration of negative feedback about a stand-on machine with real data to support their conclusion !!

ed2hess -- Thank you for your true assessment of the stand-on machines ... I've personally wondered whether there would be a real improvement in productivity with them .. however, would yo use them on large yards ??

turfsolutions
04-25-2009, 09:29 AM
I run 2 52 inch fixed deck wright standers and used to run riders. I can say this, riders are like Cadillacs. Nice machines. Wright standers are like Ferrari's. Much more maneuvarable. Take one for a test drive and you will see.

delphied
04-25-2009, 10:04 AM
Hydro WB s are well over 5000 and up to 7500 for a bigger one. I would never buy a new WB. I would buy a new Wright or a Toro Grandstand. By the time you buy a sulky for your WB, the price difference is slim. Sulkies stink. If I going to use a single mower, it would be a 52 Toro or Wright Stand on. I have a 66 Zturn and a 48 TTHP. I want to replace the 48 TTHP with a Grandstand 48. No gates in my area and anything smaller than a 48 is too small for me.

pugs
04-25-2009, 02:08 PM
We will
keep that Stander for warranty of new engine then it will be sold.

Its not a Stander.

turfbuilder
04-25-2009, 02:20 PM
Forget the sentar! We are talking about the Stander. First of all I would rather ride than walk. You will feel a lot better at the end of the day. Walk behinds have there place but once you go to a stander you will never look back. Employees prefer the standers and why wouldn't they. Also the foot print can't be beat for trailer space. :weightlifter::usflag: