The great startup thread.

[BrandonV]

So I'm having to rush on all our startups since summer has come early, thought I'd take some pics along the way.

[greenmonster304]

that sure is a summer temp.

[Kiril]

That lawn has pollution written all over it. :cry:

[jluksic]

good call

classic fert runoff condition

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Nice view. I like the low angle spray on the popups. What body of water is that?

[BrandonV]

That lawn has pollution written all over it. :cry:

there is still a good 50' to the lake, all of which is shrubs, but yeah I know what you mean. here some pics from today. I'm hating myself because when starting at 7am and just getting back now I FORGOT my nikon at the last stop (lighting job) so i made do w/ the iphone which is useless for night shots, I'll have to go back later anyways

[BrandonV]

Nice view. I like the low angle spray on the popups. What body of water is that?

thanks I'm proud of that project.

[Stuttering Stan]

Question about the second pic. How do you get the mowers into the turf area? Looks like edging stone and heads are blocking all access.
Also, what kind of lighting is installed at that residence?

[TRILAWNCARE]

Nice stripes. All the lawn clipper's would get wood if they seen that picture.....

[BrandonV]

Question about the second pic. How do you get the mowers into the turf area? Looks like edging stone and heads are blocking all access.
Also, what kind of lighting is installed at that residence?

they have a pretty complex routine at the house w/ the edging, they get the push mower off the truck and pick it up over the curb, mow, and when finished pick it up again :-) fortuantly its just a little grass area. We do have a ramp/footrest for the walker that works like a champ. I used alliance brand lights on this project, I'd love to use somthing more high end but our market isn't quite ready for that jump. The iphone of course doesn't do it justice but when I was there last night adjusting they were having a party and his friends were pretty much blown away with how it looks (I was too but played it cool):drinkup:

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Hey B

check out this rig I have been running...

in motion trying to keep eyes on roadhttp://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/IMG_0031.jpg

The fert Gun runs at about 200 lbs on 300 feet of 3/4 hose with a half in the wrapper hose reel
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/IMG_0038.jpg

Bartlett's rig from a far we call it a 9 G..Care to guess what kind of truck you think it is?
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/IMG_0039.jpg

500 Gallon tank in the back
middle and bumper tank are 200 Gallon
Front and bumper tank have agitators..

Turns on a dime!!!!!!

I bet you know who made the truck now!
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/IMG_0011.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/IMG_0008-1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/IMG_0834-1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/menhip.jpg

[Wet_Boots]

Zat a Mack truck? Make sure you pop that fert gun into some poly sprinkler lines :)

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Zat a Mack truck? Make sure you pop that fert gun into some poly sprinkler lines :)

Drip to!

I hit a great mark of 2400 each day I went out Ferting!

I Jammed every drip line I saw!

haha.

[Kiril]

there is still a good 50' to the lake, all of which is shrubs, but yeah I know what you mean.

Not just the location. The color of the turf clearly indicates it has been hit hard with fertilizer.

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Not just the location. The color of the turf clearly indicates it has been hit hard with fertilizer.


I thought Fescue or how ever its spelled was usually like that....

[Kiril]

I thought Fescue or how ever its spelled was usually like that....

No .... and I got to ask ... why are you fertilizing trees?

[Wet_Boots]

Why not? Trees can use a boost, especially the ancients. Besides, I like the repair money for the lines Rotar pops.

[Kiril]

Why not? Trees can use a boost, especially the ancients. Besides, I like the repair money for the lines Rotar pops.

"Just in case" fertilization is an asinine practice, especially when it comes to ornamental trees, and even more the case for the "ancients".

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

No .... and I got to ask ... why are you fertilizing trees?

Not really sure...but we are also doing shrubs too...

[Kiril]

Not really sure...but we are also doing shrubs too...

::: breaks down :::

What is your injection depth and mix?

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

::: breaks down :::

What is your injection depth and mix?

tall star 3 feet sometimes

[Kiril]

tall star 3 feet sometimes

You are injecting Talstar, are you sure? Talstar is an pyrethroid insecticide (Bifenthrin), sometimes mixed with ferts and highly toxic to fish. I have serious doubt if it will do a bit of good at 3 feet depth.

Oh my ............. :cry:

[BrandonV]

Not just the location. The color of the turf clearly indicates it has been hit hard with fertilizer.

your wrong their krill it's has received about 1.5lbs of N total this year, in 2 apps. the weather here has been PERFECT for fescue this year (until the last 3 days) we don't fert this one to death because we only mow it every 2 weeks per owner request.

[BrandonV]

truck looks like an international. get your class B?

[Kiril]

your wrong their krill it's has received about 1.5lbs of N total this year, in 2 apps.

Sry man, I consider that being hit hard, especially considering the highly questionable benefits of spring N applications and that fescue really only needs about 2-4 lbs/K/year (or sometimes even less than 2 lbs) depending on soil type and management practices.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Kiril is one of my favorite posters. I can feel angst everywhere. He is right in my opinion on the tree fertilizing. Couple of extra runs with the spreader and the Boy Scouts organic fertilizer is all that is really necessary.

[BrandonV]

so being that it won't be fertilized again till september or october and then that'd be another lbs (won't be hit again till then) where is your complaint?

[hoskm01]

so being that it won't be fertilized again till september or october and then that'd be another lbs (won't be hit again till then) where is your complaint?
Kiril= Dismissed!

[BrandonV]

that sounded to harsh, nothing but love for krill.... hippies have rights to :-)

[Wet_Boots]

Lawngrass is forbidden, unless you have some bison grazing on it. :)

[hoskm01]

Lawngrass is forbidden, unless you have some bison grazing on it. :)
Bison are tasty!

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Bison are tasty!

Lower in fat too. I'm going to buy a freezer full and try BISON brisket. You can have some if you bring a 6 pack of New Belgium:)

I'm even thinking I might go on a bison hunt. I've never shot an animal and decided if I'm going to keep eating them I need to pony up and end their life as well.

[Kiril]

so being that it won't be fertilized again till september or october and then that'd be another lbs (won't be hit again till then) where is your complaint?

As noted, the questionable benefits of high N in the spring (reduced root growth when you want to be promoting it, increased chance of disease). IMO, you would be better off with a light compost top dress in the spring, and a heavier top dress in the fall along with a very slow release N (if even needed).

that sounded to harsh, nothing but love for krill.... hippies have rights to :-)

not a hippie, or a hippie tree hugging liberal, just a dude who cares about the environment and knows a little something about soils and plants.

[BrandonV]

well I'll respectively disagree. I really wish I knew more about how to do these things but myself being ignorant with trees and plants I still manage to scrap by.... please don't tell dr. bule Of course the grass does look pretty for being its first season.

speaking of bison, I saw some water buffalo last week on a farm while driving back from somewhere. It was a real WTF? moment, just driving along and looked to the left at this creature staring at me.

[DanaMac]

speaking of bison, I saw some water buffalo last week on a farm while driving back from somewhere. It was a real WTF? moment, just driving along and looked to the left at this creature staring at me.

We saw a camel while driving to Nebraska on Saturday. :dizzy: Must be some kind of refuge or carnival home or something weird there.

[hoskm01]

We saw a camel while driving to Nebraska on Saturday. :dizzy: Must be some kind of refuge or carnival home or something weird there.
There are wild camels in AZ. You also cannot ride a camel to the capitol on Sunday, or a horse for that matter.

[Wet_Boots]

What about a horse-drawn wagon?

[hoskm01]

What about a horse-drawn wagon?
Bring quarters for the meter.

[Kiril]

well I'll respectively disagree. I really wish I knew more about how to do these things but myself being ignorant with trees and plants I still manage to scrap by.... please don't tell dr. bule Of course the grass does look pretty for being its first season.

http://www.purdue.edu/envirosoft/lawn/src/physiology.htm

http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/turf/430-011/430-011.html

http://turfgrassmanagement.psu.edu/cool_season_turfgrasses_part1.cfm

[BrandonV]

There are wild camels in AZ. You also cannot ride a camel to the capitol on Sunday, or a horse for that matter.

ML should give up the airstream and go green w/ a camel-towed-trailer:drinkup:

[Mike Leary]

ML should give up the airstream and go green w/ a camel-towed-trailer:drinkup:

Back to the thread: we start all our systems this week; will not activate them but we like to make them "push the button" ready as we heat up quick here.

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

You are injecting Talstar, are you sure? Talstar is an pyrethroid insecticide (Bifenthrin), sometimes mixed with ferts and highly toxic to fish. I have serious doubt if it will do a bit of good at 3 feet depth.

Oh my ............. :cry:



LOL!

no I am not injecting Tallstar...I said that to see if you know what it was..
We use tallstar for the trees though to get ride of tip moth,winter moth, and catterpiller in our area..

I was injecting an organic fert Bartlett makes..Nantucket blend

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

LOL!

no I am not injecting Tallstar...I said that to see if you know what it was..
We use tallstar for the trees though to get ride of tip moth,winter moth, and catterpiller in our area..

I was injecting an organic fert Bartlett makes..Nantucket blend

You're mean man.......

[ICS]

Reviewed the books this morning, we started pushing service contracts for the first time and our YTD service doubled this year when compared to last April. Granted it is misleading since it will include the winterization but maybe only 20% or less are opting for the contracts so far. We launched our website last fall and are currently receiving maybe 4-6 new service customers a week and 1-2 tire kickers for installs via the web.

[BrandonV]

good for you eddie, watch out on that organic stuff though

[Kiril]

no I am not injecting Tallstar...I said that to see if you know what it was..

Now if we can get you to speel it correctly.

[BrandonV]

so the first pics are of an install we didn't do, we designed the project and the builder promptly handed our design to someone else. Anways this was their attempt at using a lake pump... to prime it you first must take off the PR valve, which I suppose was an after thought. The later pics were one of ours, but in which a valve was missed (under the dock) during winterization, broke the output line, but and rather easy fix.

[Mike Leary]

Nice site, Brandon. However, what's the deal with the pvc being above grade?

[Wet_Boots]

Nice of the builder to steal your plans, :hammerhead:

[BrandonV]

Nice site, Brandon. However, what's the deal with the pvc being above grade?

which one you talking about mike? I didn't install the blue pump, just starting it up because we've picked up the maintenance. The 2nd set there we have the pump mounted on the lake and run the pipe under the dock.

[Mike Leary]

Just curious about above-ground pvc, UV deterioration and all.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Reviewed the books this morning, we started pushing service contracts for the first time and our YTD service doubled this year when compared to last April. Granted it is misleading since it will include the winterization but maybe only 20% or less are opting for the contracts so far. We launched our website last fall and are currently receiving maybe 4-6 new service customers a week and 1-2 tire kickers for installs via the web.

Pretty good man. You are getting your price? Is that three trips a year turn on summer check and blow out?

I hope others caught this. Service contracts are good business. Give you something to sell. Eventually you can close your doors and manage your labor very efficiently.

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Just curious about above-ground pvc, UV deterioration and all.


I know what you are saying, but there is pvc out there older than me that we service aboce ground...

eh

[Mike Leary]

I know what you are saying, but there is pvc out there older than me that we service aboce ground...

eh

Looks like hell and it will fail.

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Looks like hell and it will fail.

I agree mike...

But everything will fail over time....even me and you..

Sadly around here it is an industry standard.

There needs to be tougher regulations and laws on potable water where I am @..

cest la vie.

[AI Inc]

Middlesex county , copper was the standard for yrs. In the last few I have seen not only pvc , but poly. Makes me want to puke.