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Pennington Lawncare
04-25-2009, 12:19 AM
I had not been particularly impressed by the amount of stripe that my new Predator Pro was leaving so I added a roller. I bought this roller last Fall at TSC for $20 on clearance. It was meant to hook to the trailer hitch of a regular lawn tractor but, I cut the bars off and did a little bending and hole drilling to hook it to my zero turn. I was pretty satisfied with the results on my neighbor's yard and the pictures don't really do it justice since the pictures were taken at 7 pm and it wasn't really as light as the pictures make it appear.

http://www.wolfplayer.us/Public/rollerinstall1.jpg
http://www.wolfplayer.us/Public/rollerinstall2.jpg

http://www.wolfplayer.us/Public/leftbefore1.jpg
http://www.wolfplayer.us/Public/leftafter1.jpg

http://www.wolfplayer.us/Public/rightbefore1.jpg
http://www.wolfplayer.us/Public/rightafter1.jpg

If someone has a blade recommendation for my Predator Pro to help enhance the striping I'd be glad to hear from you. Thanks

TheC-Master
04-25-2009, 04:20 AM
They are solid, but they seem like they could stand out a little more IMO. Is there a way to lower the roller slightly, not *too* low though because it will wear out fast, but just low enough.

yardatwork
04-25-2009, 09:12 AM
Stripes look good! I'm just worried that when you back up, you might "pinch" or wedge the roller and then bend those support arms. I just bought two rollers that mount to my deck and can be adjusted in height...Harrison Specialities. I'm now the guy who leaves lawns looking like golf course grass!

topsites
04-25-2009, 09:20 AM
Yes, it's a striper thou, not a roller, thou that looks pretty nice for home grown material, really a job well done, hope it lasts.
On the notes of backing up, simple answer, don't.
Or at least TRY not to, and it might not be a problem.

Oh, blades...
I would just try the 'other' kind, there's really only two kinds, they are all either 'mulchers' or 'high lifts,' well, basically.
Swap one kind out for the other and run it for a day, see how that turns out, might work better, might not.
Either way but then at least you know that.

Pennington Lawncare
04-25-2009, 10:45 PM
Oh well, this thing lasted for a few yards and was doing fine until I backed up into a small ditch. Where the 2 rollers meet in the middle one of those came undone.

I'm thinking about having one made out of 4 inch metal pipe or getting a stripe kit. I'd like to see a good picture of the Bob-Cat striping kit for a Predator Pro if anyone uses one or has installed one themselves. I think the best route would probably be one with the greasable bearings on the roller mounted to the deck.

yard at work do you have any pictures of yours? tnx

Big Bad Bob
04-25-2009, 11:32 PM
Not to bust your bubble but I can leave stripes that good with my Toro without a stripe kit. I have seen Hustlers without stripe kits do even better.

dishboy
04-25-2009, 11:35 PM
Not to bust your bubble but I can leave stripes that good with my Toro without a stripe kit. I have seen Hustlers without stripe kits do even better.

Like you can tell from a picture on the internet.

GOOSEHANSON
04-25-2009, 11:39 PM
My Husky stripes better then that....w/o a striper too...but you are on the right track...joe

Big Bad Bob
04-26-2009, 12:09 AM
Like you can tell from a picture on the internet.

You do have a point, but why post the pics then. It's all we have to go by.

STIHL GUY
04-26-2009, 12:18 AM
the high lifts on my bobcat WB stripe pretty well. if your not already using these you might want to try

ALC-GregH
04-26-2009, 12:41 AM
Did you go over the mower and deck good to make sure it was set correct? Also, high lift blades will help it stripe better. I wouldn't pitch the deck more then a 1/4 inch front to back. Front blade tip being 1/4in lower the the rear blade tip. Check the settings on a very flat surface for best results.

mnglocker
04-26-2009, 02:51 AM
Are you trying to do this?
Before:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb4/953kdjs/ScottZakbeforeSC.jpg

After:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb4/953kdjs/ScottZakafterSC2.jpg

Your roller isn't bending the grass, it's squashing it. Try a brush on the back of the deck instead or in addition too.

I run a 3/4" pitch on my deck with standard blades, however I may try some high lifts soon.

Grass Happens
04-26-2009, 03:03 AM
What kind of grass you cutting? Usually those 'cats striped really well stock. The "striping" kit for the bobcat used to be a metal bar and brackets that hung below the deck.

Pennington Lawncare
04-26-2009, 08:42 AM
Did you go over the mower and deck good to make sure it was set correct? Also, high lift blades will help it stripe better. I wouldn't pitch the deck more then a 1/4 inch front to back. Front blade tip being 1/4in lower the the rear blade tip. Check the settings on a very flat surface for best results.

Yep, I set it for 1/8 lower in the front and that was set by the blade and not the deck itself. The blade on my mower actually sticks down about 1/2" below the front lip of the deck. The deck on my Predator Pro does have something that I hadn't seen before and I haven't been around that long but, the front lip of the deck has a piece of metal all across the front of the deck and you can loosen some bolts and lower it down to where it sticks down a little.

I had my deck pitch all out of whack to begin with and then I saw that the blades hang down below the deck a little in the front and had to redo it all. Then I measured from the blade to the ground in the front and rear.

ALC-GregH
04-26-2009, 10:25 AM
Does the blades use spacers on top of the blade to adjust depth in the deck? You might want to raise the blade that 1/2 inch and get them at least level with the deck, if not a 1/4in up into the deck. After that, recheck the cutting height. Blades should not be lower then the lowest part of the deck. Vacuum is one of the keys to getting a lawn to stripe well. Use a high lift blade.

Pennington Lawncare
04-26-2009, 10:27 AM
I found the Harrison Specialty stripe kit for an exmark

http://www.harrisonspecialties.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HS&Product_Code=60_Exmark&Category_Code=

They also have auctions on Ebay that I had seen previously. When I first saw that kit I thought the roller should be a larger diameter. At least larger so that the brackets on the sides could not dig into the turf when going over a bump. When I bought my Predator Pro the dealer also had a Hustler striping kit and it had what looked to be a 4 inch roller with that kit and the dealer said it would fit the Predator Pro just fine but, for $300 I had to pass.

ALC-GregH
04-26-2009, 10:52 AM
I don't particularly care for the roller on the deck. It has to be set a inch or so off the ground. The Scag kit (probably doesn't fit your mower) is spring loaded and is always pushing down on the turf as it rolls along. It works well too.

Pennington Lawncare
04-26-2009, 11:07 AM
Is the Scag striping roller in the rear not also prone to getting torn up when backing up? I'm sure it could be fitted to my Bob-Cat but, I'm sure that Scag roller is pretty expensive and $300+ for a striping kit is a little extreme to me.

afg
04-26-2009, 11:17 AM
looks like a waste of your time and money....

Pennington Lawncare
04-27-2009, 02:12 AM
Does the blades use spacers on top of the blade to adjust depth in the deck? You might want to raise the blade that 1/2 inch and get them at least level with the deck, if not a 1/4in up into the deck. After that, recheck the cutting height. Blades should not be lower then the lowest part of the deck. Vacuum is one of the keys to getting a lawn to stripe well. Use a high lift blade.

The blades do have some spacers and the OEM blades are supposed to be hi-lift but, I see your point about the suction being reduced if the front edge of the deck is not as low as the blades then it's losing suction. I do see some air blowing out the front of the mower at times. Not while I'm cutting thick grass but, when driving over a driveway or thin grass coverage. It does cut cleanly it just doesn't leave much of a stripe.

I think I'm about to go with a roller mounted to the deck. Similar to a Hustler striping kit. 4 inch roller and bearing etc.