drainage

[2brothersyardcare]

drainage i have a laddie that im doing a big install for beds mulch and such she keeps adding stuff but she added a french drain to it. idk if its a french drain but its a french drain with the tank on it. my dads a carpenter and hes seen them do what im going to do and i have the basics of it. its maybe 15 ft.

i need to dig down 12 inches and lay the pipe 1in up every 4 ft. then connect it to the box or we that sis 6in below the surface of the ground.

any thing else i have to do and any1 in ct now were i can get it its my first time thanks.

[Dirt Digger2]

first spell check is always a good idea

second you only need to run 1/8" fall....1/4" is overkill, especially if you are digging by hand

Homedepot has the black "pre made" cans, but a cheaper way to do it is buy a 55 gallon plastic barrel and drill holes in it, turn it upside down and bury it.

Make sure you put plenty of stone around it too, with rosin paper or geo-textile on top of the stone and have a "Wye" or "T" on the downspout itself to let any overflow run out the front of the pipe and not right next to the foundation

[YellowDogSVC]

Are you asking about the small, 12x12" or 9x9" drain boxes to capture water in a low spot then release it through perforated pipe or is the perforated pipe going to capture the drainage and release it to the tank?

[Dirt Digger2]

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heres what i mean about a "wye" to get any overflow water away from the foundation

[Dirt Digger2]

YellowDog i think what he is asking is about a storage tank underground that lets the water percolate into the ground over time with just a solid piece of pipe running into it from the downspout

[2brothersyardcare]

sorry bout the spelling and its to get water away from a porch bc it floods when it rains but i think i no wat im doing do you all agree and were can i get the tank. i saw the pipe at home depot but no box

[2brothersyardcare]

got a quote from gault and it was good but wat else can i do to keep the water away?

[Junior M]

got a quote from gault and it was good but wat else can i do to keep the water away?
A swale is another way to keep water away from the house...

[CAT powered]

Put in a swale to direct water around the house instead of letting it run at it.

[2brothersyardcare]

wats a swale? and the hole yards water runs to the porch

[Junior M]

wats a swale? and the hole yards water runs to the porch
a hump or somewhat of a hole that runs around the side of the home..

Lets say this swale is below grade, your yard stays at its normal grade and then there is a hole that is lower than the grade in the yard and lower than the grade at the house and the water will be caught in it and be carried around the side of the house..

Its not that great of a description, maybe someone can help me out?

[2brothersyardcare]

thanks man ill mention that 2 the laddie

[2brothersyardcare]

any thing else?

[CAT powered]

Just for the record: A lady is a woman. A laddie is a Scottish child.

If you really want to do a nice job of things you'll put in a small swale with drains in it. Then you'll run perforated pipe between the drains. And you'll put 3/8" stone in the trenches you make for the pipe. Then you run all the pipe out to a storm drain if gravity will allow you to. Make sure you pick up all the downspouts and lead them to your drains (underground of course) so you're getting more water away from the foundation.

That is typically how I'd do something like that. I installed a system similar to that at my mother-in-law's house over the summer. However I led it to daylight in the rear of the house because their front yard is a big hill leading down towards the house. Will the neighbors below them be thrilled about it? No. Was it good enough for the free job I did for them? Yes.

I would recommend Cherry Hill as a source for the stone. That's where I got my stone from and it couldn't have worked out better.

Cherry Hill is a top notch organization. They get there when they say they will. Their drivers are courteous and always get the material as close to where you want it as they feel they safely can.

[RockSet N' Grade]

general code says that you must have a 6% positive grade at least 10' from the house....it varies from state to state, but the theory is the same.......get the water to drain away from the house.........

[Junior M]

general code says that you must have a 6% positive grade at least 10' from the house....it varies from state to state, but the theory is the same.......get the water to drain away from the house.........
no regulations like that here, people here build houses in holes and then we fix it as best we can.. :cool2:

[RockSet N' Grade]

Junior.......check the codes, I live in what used to be the sticks upside down backward country and we even have mention of it.........check local, then state and then if that doesn't work UBC.........

[Junior M]

Junior.......check the codes, I live in what used to be the sticks upside down backward country and we even have mention of it.........check local, then state and then if that doesn't work UBC.........
Ok, I'll do that, who should I call?

[bobcatexc]

JR, Rockset is excally right that is what our code is here also which I believe is the standard. Check with your local building commission or where you pull building permits from. Everybody uses the national residential building code or ask your Homebuilders Association where you can find out the codes for grading in your area.

Come on JR get with the game!!! If this (2Mankins & A Trailer) is going to get going your going to have to know all this. :hammerhead:

[2brothersyardcare]

thanks you i gave her a quote and she sounded shocked and she better take it and im going to finish up all the landscaping i can tomorrow and here if im doing it or not bc its right behind a big portion of the project.

[Junior M]

JR, Rockset is excally right that is what our code is here also which I believe is the standard. Check with your local building commission or where you pull building permits from. Everybody uses the national residential building code or ask your Homebuilders Association where you can find out the codes for grading in your area.

Come on JR get with the game!!! If this (2Mankins & A Trailer) is going to get going your going to have to know all this. :hammerhead:
I dont wanna do dirtwork.. :p :laugh:

And I am only saying this because we've tons of houses and building built with or will have water problems, there are 3 in my subdivision that are actually set at the bottom of a hill.

But I'll find out, I've never heard of such a thing being inspected or turned down cause of it being setup like that?

[qps]

what's a club cadet:confused:.......

[Junior M]

what's a club cadet:confused:.......
a golf club in training? ;) :laugh:

[bobcatexc]

JR at this point of Mankins &Son and the economy I don't think you need to be that picky about what kind of work you do, you need to be diversified to tackle any kind of project unless you guys are just swapped with all this (Selective cutting & Selective logging) you guys do. I know it takes a real operator to do dirtwork is that the problem JR???:dancing:

As far as the codes, I've never seen them come out to inspect just the grading, but I'm sure they visually look at it at the final occupency permit. You just don't want a crawlspace full of water and mold growing under the house and then they start looking and point fingers and find your grading the cause!

[Junior M]

JR at this point of Mankins &Son and the economy I don't think you need to be that picky about what kind of work you do, you need to be diversified to tackle any kind of project unless you guys are just swapped with all this (Selective cutting & Selective logging) you guys do. I know it takes a real operator to do dirtwork is that the problem JR???:dancing:

As far as the codes, I've never seen them come out to inspect just the grading, but I'm sure they visually look at it at the final occupency permit. You just don't want a crawlspace full of water and mold growing under the house and then they start looking and point fingers and find your grading the cause!
:laugh:

I am not being picky, I'll take any work right now, and to get certificate of occupancy the house must have an electrical inspection, some sort of landscaping(certain number of plant material, a certain amount of sod) but you cant do anything for grading when the house is built in a hole! :hammerhead:


and every builder I know of would be in trouble for water issues if everyone went after them for water running against the front of the house..

I am not saying its right, but there is nothing I can do about it when the houses are built in a whole from the get go..

[RockSet N' Grade]

JR.......good discussion going on here......AND a possible niche market for you. It has become a niche market for me and one of my bread and butter items........GRADING and water problems around existing homes and how to fix it......Great job and I love it and it pays and pays and pays.......A house in a "hole" as you say is a good test problem for you....how would you fix it and present it to the homeowner? I do these all the time and got the system and fix figured out in a package........lets play with the scenario a bit, if you wish, there is big bucks here and few are doing it responsibly and correctly.

[Junior M]

JR.......good discussion going on here......AND a possible niche market for you. It has become a niche market for me and one of my bread and butter items........GRADING and water problems around existing homes and how to fix it......Great job and I love it and it pays and pays and pays.......A house in a "hole" as you say is a good test problem for you....how would you fix it and present it to the homeowner? I do these all the time and got the system and fix figured out in a package........lets play with the scenario a bit, if you wish, there is big bucks here and few are doing it responsibly and correctly.
Oh they are big money makers for me to, I've done many jobs like that, most of them I do something else along with them(clearing, more grading)

I've discussed with a realtor about doing this kind of work for them for there rental houses and other things, but it didnt go anywhere. I never really pursued it after that, maybe I should?

I am glad you brought that up, I've been on the hunt for work for a while right now. Hmm, I think I am going to get on phone with some inspection companies and realtors. This could go somewhere...

[RockSet N' Grade]

Junior.......realtors, waterproofing companies, remodel contractors, home owners associations........

[Junior M]

Junior.......realtors, waterproofing companies, remodel contractors, home owners associations........
I'll be making some phone calls..

One question, what would a HOA have to do with a problem like this?

[RockSet N' Grade]

HOA's make board decisions on what needs to be done and then sometimes outsource the "fix" themselves......ya never know.....ya knock on alot of doors, and then, finally one opens.......its a game of numbers......

[Junior M]

HOA's make board decisions on what needs to be done and then sometimes outsource the "fix" themselves......ya never know.....ya knock on alot of doors, and then, finally one opens.......its a game of numbers......
Oh, okay I get ya, I've never been involved with anything of that nature...

[J. Peterson Grading]

I bank on at least 25% of my seasonal work of repairing drainage issues.

Great business to be involved in.

J.