double garage demo

[westcoh]

Just looking for some help bidding on a job to demo this 22’x25’ double garage and haul away the debris. This is the first time I’ve ever been asked to bid on a demo job like this, and it is something I’d like to get into more in the future. I have an s205 bobcat, 753 bobcat and a 33kgvw international dump truck. If necessary I can hire a tandem at $90/hr. Time to the dump site would probably be about an hour round-trip. Biggest unknown to me is how many truckloads of debris something like this would end up being. Appreciate any help, as I’d like to make sure my price is at least in the ball-park.

[riverwalklandscaping]

Is any of it salvageable? I am sure there are people who would want the doors maybe etc.. too bad looks like a fine garage to me

[Gravel Rat]

Thats a piece of cake it shouldn't take you long it all depends on how your landfill takes the material. Here I would have to strip the duriods off and they go separate. The metal garage doors and any metal is separate.

It looks like stucco on the outside that would have to come off the wood grinders won't grind wood with stucco on it.

Salvage any usuable wood etc then the rest off to the dump.

A excavator would make it easier to demo with because you can peal the roof off and knock the walls in. With a skid steer you may have to carefully punch the front supports in where the garage doors are. Then go from the sides and punch the front corners in so the building falls forward. Then you can start picking away at the roof.

I go by 40 yard bins which is what we use here for demo and I say you have 3-4 bins there. You can't get a full 40 yards into a 40 yard bin because those roof sections will eat up allot of space.

Good Luck.

[Gravel Rat]

I looked at the pictures again you will have to try pull the building forward without it shifting side to side.

Without seeing whats in the inside for sheathing or studding I assume its ship lap sheathing if its old enough. If its plywood its not going to want to come apart nice. That rotten stucco is a pain in the butt it really acts like a sheer wall.

Like I said with a excavator you can get the lid off the garage Then work on the walls.

[SiteSolutions]

Excavator, even a good size mini ex would definitely make for an easier job. You'll need to slime your tires or have them foam filled if you do much demo with a skid steer. Been there and got the tire bills to prove it.

Having your own truck is a plus but with a long travel time it brings down your profit per time.

Might just be simpler to have a couple 40 yd dumpsters dropped off; not sure what they run up there but it would be 400-500 bucks down here each. Big dump truck will run you over a hundred per trip plus whatever the dump fee is; it will probably be close either way. The big advantages for dumpsters are: they're a lot easier to load and the clock isn't running while you're loading them.

Whatever you use for haul off, it will be worth your while to mash that stuff up as small as you can.

[ksss]

That is a nice garage. One quick note, it might be movable with possibility of selling it.

On to the demo. You can take it apart with a skid steer and a grapple, I have do it with similiar jobs. The best is a mini ex with a thumb.for a job like that. Becareful of the overhead power. I spend some extra time really mulching it up. The smaller the pieces the less air volume in the truck. That is the issue with a skid steer, a little harder to do that and unless you have run flats I would plan on some flats. I would select trucks with demo bodies with high lift end gates. The gravel type trucks have to be loaded more carefully or they will hang up and then you get to pay 90 an hour while they fiddle ^uck around getting the material unstuck. I like to use side dumps or end dumps with high lift end gates. Much more cost effective if you have that option. Salvage all that you can obviously. I would guess you would have 6 triaxle type truck loads of wood waste, but that all depends on how you load it. Might be less if your careful.

It looks like a footing and stem wall foundation. I use a breaker and knock a portion of the wall down to the footing and snap the footing. I then can pull the rest of the footings with the TK. Depending on how much excavator you have you may be able to do the same. There is probably two maybe three trucks of concrete waste.

I would get it all knocked down and mulched up as small as possible and then call the trucks. I can load a triaxle with demo in about 8 min. with the TK.

I would then pull up the concrete and again call for the trucks when it is all in a pile.

Here the job would go for about 2K.

[eaglescout]

Do not forget to apply for a demo permit if required. Happens all the time in the city. Start demo get red tagged for not paying for the permit. Good luck Eagle

[Bleed Green]

hey KSSS what is a TK?

[ksss]

hey KSSS what is a TK?


Takeuchi TB153FR, specifically.

[Bleed Green]

i thought that it was prolly takeuchi

[wanabe]

I just did a 24 foot by 14 foot garage, 8 foot tall block walls. It took one tamdem for all the wood on top and one tandem for the blocks. This may help?

[YellowDogSVC]

Salvage what you can and smash up what you can't. You can even chip lumber into a pile, nails and all, if you don't mind buying a set of blades. It will save on haul-off if you spend a little extra on hand labor. If you can get an 18" chipper, it will eat a lot of debris. I have chipped up a lot of demo stuff with my 20" chipper. just don't send any big pieces of iron through it!

I like the idea of the mini-ex but I have demoed bigger with an s250 and grapple. You may be able to get a rolloff in after you have taken what you can with your dump truck. It sounds like you have the tools. Get a pair of big bolt cutters for electrical wire and rebar. It will save some time.

[westcoh]

Appreciate all the advice, you guys have brought up a few points/ideas I never thought of. Sent in my price, so we'll see what happens.

[bobcatexc]

I tore down an old single car garage about about a month ago. 12x25 all wood with tall hay loft barn style roof with 2nd floor and all wood with some of the homeowners stuff still in it. Took it down with Takeuchi 135 and fit it all in a 40 yard dumpster. Concrete and blocks were left for new garage. As KSSS said the key to demo is crunching and the way you load your dumpster or truck. I own my own Bobcat and have tear down garages before with it, but it's more profitable to rent mini and use.

[nac]

just did one recently 1 30CY box for the demo 1 20 Cy box for the concrete I did it with my PC45 and grapple had it demoed loaded it all in the same day and I was driving the rolloff also.