SolidFlex Brawler Tires

[BigDigger]

Well I did it. I my beefy babies where looking a little thin, and before going to buy a spare too I decided to avoid the whole issue and go for these.

They can be re-treaded at a substantial savings at which point you can pick one of MANY tread designs. As you know the life is 3-5times that of regular tires so by about the 3 retread you are WAAAYYY ahead of the game.

I have looked at all of them out there. I IMHO think these ones are among the best out there. Partly because they are chemically bonded to the rim, so no spinning rim action....it is this design choice that infact allows the re-tread. the holes are HUGELY deep and are infact HUGE. they are oval, which is interesting, so when they flex the holes go round and don't tear, whereas round holes deform and turn oval when flexed and then begin to tear...that's bad since that is below the re-tread meat.

I am curious how they will work in winter, I am keeping my beefy babies just for that eventuality since I expect these will get a bit stiff.....

Man these things are aggressive looking. They actually look hot...hehehe

The biggest surprise is the ride quality so far. Very nice, rides about like a foam filled.....but that's a nice trade off since it get's rid of that beach ball feel I hate so much when the buckets in the air. Much more solid for sure on the ground because you don't get that pneumatic compression or bounce over uneven ground. It's not a punishing ride but it's more firm. My 246C air ride seat eats up any other complaints.

It also ads I think about 900lbs to the unit, and right down low, so it sure feels more stable.

Certainly a negative right now is that they are harder on grass so practice up those really clean 3 point turns. Also our minus 30C winter might make the tires a hair firm so the contact patch will shrink a bit, however the extra weight and aggressive tread may make up for that. Time will tell.

I did a couple turns on pavement to see how they scrub off....well, instead of the lateral scrap marks that denote lost material, the tread looks smoother. Certainly appears to be harder wearing.

I will post some pics tomorrow....the machine looks hot with them on.

All in all I am very pleased so far, but it will require more testing to render a final verdict.

I believe retreading is about 275 cdn per tire. that's cheap, so I think this should work out fine. and yous still get the extended wear etc.

Here is a link to some info if you are interested. It's a video. http://www.mitl.info/solidTires.do?reqCode=brawlerSolidFlexTireVideo&page=brawlerSolidFlexTireVideo


Interesting, the video says it's about a 37% better ride than foam filled...hmm...time will tell on that one, but so far I am pleased.....

[BIGBEN2004]

I like them they seem better then the foam filled. I hate foam filled and have thought about these swiss cheese tires and what they could do. They look like they will give a little more then foam filled and get a better bite on the ground for traction more like a air filled tire does.

http://www.mclarenusa.com/nu-air/nu-air-semi-pneumatic-tires-for-skid-steer-loaders-and-backhoes.html

These are the ones I looked at and thought about buying for one of my brothers machines on the farm that I rent from him when work gets busy.

[BigDigger]

Yeah I looked at those too. They look a bit squishier then the brawlers however the holes are round.....meaning they tend to tear over time and 2 they are not bonded to the rim....so no retreading.....which is less expensive then just replacing tires on the Mclarens.

And I must say, the Mclarens have lots of holes, which is cool, but the brawlers are positively huge.....that's a BIG tire, though it's hard to get that perspective from video.

If you get those Mclarens let me know what you think of them.....I was very interested in those.

[stuvecorp]

Looks interesting. I want to know how they do in the winter.

[JDSKIDSTEER]

I ordered a machine with them on it and started stocking them. I think people will start replacing with them if they ever start making money again.

[BigDigger]

I just became a dealer for them.....I doubt I will see much action, but as time goes on I think they will get more popular.

[ksss]

I just became a dealer for them.....I doubt I will see much action, but as time goes on I think they will get more popular.

Well mister dealer I have a question. Do these rims have a factory offset to allow running OTT without spacers? Give me a quote for 12X16.5 hopefully with the CASE factory offset for a 465.

[BigDigger]

Well mister dealer I have a question. Do these rims have a factory offset to allow running OTT without spacers? Give me a quote for 12X16.5 hopefully with the CASE factory offset for a 465.

Excellent question,

I will look into that.

Are you in Canada? As I recall you are not. THAT will be the bugger for you.

I PM'd you the price.

[DeereMan85]

KSSS, the Brawlers come in a standard 12x16.5 with 8x8 pattern, so they are not made to exact specs of your machine. Rather, they are offset so that one side of the rim is deeper than the other to maximize the universality of the tires. According to my spec sheet, the standard mounting configuration for a Case 465 is deep side in, so you would simply need to mount shallow side in to accommodate OTTs.

[ksss]

KSSS, the Brawlers come in a standard 12x16.5 with 8x8 pattern, so they are not made to exact specs of your machine. Rather, they are offset so that one side of the rim is deeper than the other to maximize the universality of the tires. According to my spec sheet, the standard mounting configuration for a Case 465 is deep side in, so you would simply need to mount shallow side in to accommodate OTTs.

Thats what I was looking for. I have talked other solid tire oems that have the rim mounted so it is equal distance from the center of the tire to the outside of the rim on both sides, that doesn't work for me. This sounds like my factory rim which is offset much the same way. I am 73" wide with the deep side in and like 81-82 with them flipped the other way.


Digger is that Canadian thing an issue? What the hell didn't NAFTA fix all those logistical issues. I see Grain Trains and Bull Racks coming down out of the Alberta and BC all the time. I am sure there are loads of your other CASH crop I don't see coming south without interruption. Cant they send me a set of tires?

[ksss]

Thats what I was looking for. I have talked other solid tire oems that have the rim mounted so it is equal distance from the center of the tire to the outside of the rim on both sides, that doesn't work for me. This sounds like my factory rim which is offset much the same way. I am 73" wide with the deep side in and like 81-82 with them flipped the other way.


Digger is that Canadian thing an issue? What the hell didn't NAFTA fix all those logistical issues. I see Grain Trains and Bull Racks coming down out of the Alberta and BC all the time. I am sure there are loads of your other CASH crop I don't see coming south without interruption. Cant they send me a set of tires?


I just got this email from Galaxy. Check this out.

Good morning,

Thank you for your e-mail and your interest in our Brawler Solid Flex tires.
In most cases, the Solid Flex tires can be “flipped” … we would need to know the Model of the Case skid steer to be certain; however, I’ve been advised that running tracks on our Solid Flex tires would nullify the warranty on these tires.


Regards,


This was signed by the director of marketing. I left his name off but there it is.

Anyone else just a little surprised? A runflat tire that is not compatible with steel tracks? Seems a little crazy to me.

[DeereMan85]

FYI, every Deere dealer with a CWP (compact equipment) contract is an authorized Brawler SolidFlex dealer. If they don't stock them, the parts dept. can order them and have them for you within a week or so. There is an introductory stocking program for Deere dealers going on right now that some dealers might not be aware of, so ask your local dealer to look into it if you're interested.

[BigDigger]

Thats what I was looking for. I have talked other solid tire oems that have the rim mounted so it is equal distance from the center of the tire to the outside of the rim on both sides, that doesn't work for me. This sounds like my factory rim which is offset much the same way. I am 73" wide with the deep side in and like 81-82 with them flipped the other way.


Digger is that Canadian thing an issue? What the hell didn't NAFTA fix all those logistical issues. I see Grain Trains and Bull Racks coming down out of the Alberta and BC all the time. I am sure there are loads of your other CASH crop I don't see coming south without interruption. Cant they send me a set of tires?

HAHAHA, it could be argued that NAFTA only worked one way....and that was in Americans Favor you so you might have a point.

It's the shipping that will kill ya. there is about 1200lbs of weight to ship, best find a local distributor and become a dealer....it likely isn't hard. :) it only takes money.:cool2:

[BigDigger]

I just got this email from Galaxy. Check this out.

Good morning,

Thank you for your e-mail and your interest in our Brawler Solid Flex tires.
In most cases, the Solid Flex tires can be “flipped” … we would need to know the Model of the Case skid steer to be certain; however, I’ve been advised that running tracks on our Solid Flex tires would nullify the warranty on these tires.


Regards,


This was signed by the director of marketing. I left his name off but there it is.

Anyone else just a little surprised? A runflat tire that is not compatible with steel tracks? Seems a little crazy to me.

I doubt they would know......A fair question is....what kind of warranty do you need on a solid tire? short of de-laminating from the rim, I don't see how warranty would matter....it certainly won't after your first retread which is about a quarter of the cost of purchasing new again.....like I said before, buying this rim means you are buying into an aftermarket system of retreading and reuse...that's where the bucks will be saved....

PS, I ran them today on broken concrete asphalt and rebar.....couple small scratches to show for it, they worked amazingly well....the ride was better than expected....and they make my machine look pimp'n :cool2:

[Junior M]

I doubt they would know......A fair question is....what kind of warranty do you need on a solid tire? short of de-laminating from the rim, I don't see how warranty would matter....it certainly won't after your first retread which is about a quarter of the cost of purchasing new again.....like I said before, buying this rim means you are buying into an aftermarket system of retreading and reuse...that's where the bucks will be saved....

PS, I ran them today on broken concrete asphalt and rebar.....couple small scratches to show for it, they worked amazingly well....the ride was better than expected....and they make my machine look pimp'n :cool2:
Yet, no pics?

[BigDigger]

Shoot sorry man, I had it on site today....I will try to remember tomorrow....It was a good day though....digging out a trench for a great beam form.....*ahhhh good times. Machine worked beautifully.

[Junior M]

Shoot sorry man, I had it on site today....I will try to remember tomorrow....It was a good day though....digging out a trench for a great beam form.....*ahhhh good times. Machine worked beautifully.
It'd be working even more beautiful if we had pics of it.. :cool2:

[DeereMan85]

Here's a PDF detailing GPX's calculations for cost per hour. Even if you keep replacing the Brawlers instead of retreading, you can save quite a bit of money if you work in abrasive or puncture-prone areas. Also a PDF with testimonials from people in various industries.

[ksss]

Here's a PDF detailing GPX's calculations for cost per hour. Even if you keep replacing the Brawlers instead of retreading, you can save quite a bit of money if you work in abrasive or puncture-prone areas. Also a PDF with testimonials from people in various industries.

Deereman, do you have anyone running OTT with these tires? I am trying to get past them not warrantying the tires with tracks, everyone else does that I have talked to. Do the tracks tear up the tires somehow?

[DeereMan85]

I just got this email from Galaxy. Check this out.

Good morning,

Thank you for your e-mail and your interest in our Brawler Solid Flex tires.
In most cases, the Solid Flex tires can be “flipped” … we would need to know the Model of the Case skid steer to be certain; however, I’ve been advised that running tracks on our Solid Flex tires would nullify the warranty on these tires.


Regards,


This was signed by the director of marketing. I left his name off but there it is.

Anyone else just a little surprised? A runflat tire that is not compatible with steel tracks? Seems a little crazy to me.

Just got off the phone with our regional sales rep for Galaxy. He says that running tracks will not void the warranty of your tires, but may void the warranty of your skid steer. The reason is that most skid manufacturers have not yet tested their machines with the weight of both the tires and the tracks to determine whether it causes undue wear on the drivetrain. However, he did tell me that a warranty rep from Deere told him that as long as the tracks are not on the machine when it goes in for warranty work, they do not investigate to see if the machine has been used with tracks. So your warranty may be voided, but you can get around that by taking the tracks off your machine before it goes in for warranty work.

[DeereMan85]

Deereman, do you have anyone running OTT with these tires? I am trying to get past them not warrantying the tires with tracks, everyone else does that I have talked to. Do the tracks tear up the tires somehow?

See my last post. I do not have anyone running OTT with them, but I have heard from other guys that they work great with tracks. Your best bet on the warranty issue is to have your Brawler dealer contact his regional sales rep to determine his stance on warrantied/non-warrantied, as he will likely be the one policing warranty claims on the tires. If he's OK with OTTs, it probably doesn't matter what the director of marketing thinks.

[ksss]

Just got off the phone with our regional sales rep for Galaxy. He says that running tracks will not void the warranty of your tires, but may void the warranty of your skid steer. The reason is that most skid manufacturers have not yet tested their machines with the weight of both the tires and the tracks to determine whether it causes undue wear on the drivetrain. However, he did tell me that a warranty rep from Deere told him that as long as the tracks are not on the machine when it goes in for warranty work, they do not investigate to see if the machine has been used with tracks. So your warranty may be voided, but you can get around that by taking the tracks off your machine before it goes in for warranty work.


I did not see this post, my bad. Looks like I will need to stop and chat with the Deere guys. Well if the machine will run VTS with a combined weight of 3K and running off of one axle, I doubt the combined weight of tracks and solid tires will make much difference.

[DeereMan85]

I did not see this post, my bad. Looks like I will need to stop and chat with the Deere guys. Well if the machine will run VTS with a combined weight of 3K and running off of one axle, I doubt the combined weight of tracks and solid tires will make much difference.

True. However, the difference is that most of the weight with these tires & OTTs rotates on the axle (rotational weight), creating centrifugal force. This creates strain on the drivetrain when quickly starting from a standstill or quickly changing directions (much the same way that putting bigger rims or tires on your vehicle makes braking harder). With VTS, most of the weight is dead weight and does not rotate on the axle. That being said, the rotational weight of these tires and tracks is still probably not any more than you would have with a set of foam-filled tires.

[BigDigger]

You wanted some, you get some.

RoXolid is not my company name. This is the company I bought the machine from. I am just waiting for my graphics to get done. Free advertising for them I guess :)

Pics:


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[stuvecorp]

It does have a robot/alien thing going.:waving:

[BigDigger]

yeah totally man......like a sexy chick robot.....:cool2:

[stuvecorp]

yeah totally man......like a sexy chick robot.....:cool2:

Fembot!:clapping:Thumbs Up

[ksss]

Well Deere forgot to carry the 1 in their quote for the tires. $3200 for 4. That was too much. I contacted SPW industries. They sell to a lot of the large rental stores in the Country. I wanted a rim that had the OEM offset for running OTT. I don't use the OTT very often but when you need them you need them. So the wheel offset was an issue. They sell a style of rim and tire that looks identical to the Skid Steer Solutions run flat tire. So I played phone tag with McLaren and email tag with SPW. I got McLaren with in arms reach of the SPW's tire. I went with McLaren.

So now if they work like they should, I should see about 2500 hours of wear out of the tires. I better.

The 465 running with 12X16.5 just crushes the rims in these ground conditions. Flats from nails are one thing but bent rims are worse. I should really be running the larger tires on it, its too heavy I think for that size of tire. At any rate its all over. I should see the tires on Thursday.

[hillboy]

Yeah I looked at those too. They look a bit squishier then the brawlers however the holes are round.....meaning they tend to tear over time and 2 they are not bonded to the rim....so no retreading.....which is less expensive then just replacing tires on the Mclarens.

And I must say, the Mclarens have lots of holes, which is cool, but the brawlers are positively huge.....that's a BIG tire, though it's hard to get that perspective from video.

If you get those Mclarens let me know what you think of them.....I was very interested in those.

Hi BigDigger, first, congratulations on your purchase, your tires look pretty cool!
However, I think you got it slightly wrong on the McLaren's -- we have been using them for quite some time and we never had a spinning rim problem and I have never seen any holes getting torn as you suggest (see the pictures below). We have McLaren flat proof tires on 8 machines and plan to put them on the other 3 we have.

Second, I think the press-on/off feature they have is great because you can later buy just tires without rims and save big!!! If I remember right, they had a promo where you can get $1,000 saving per set when you buy the tires without rims.

And yes, having more holes translates into better cushioning and indeed the McLaren's run much smoother than any foam-filled tire we had before.

Regarding how long they last -- one of our machines has MccLaren NuAir AT and we already have over 3,000 hours on the tires and they are still going. Based on the wear, I think they'll go over 3,500 hrs. This NuAir AT tire is specially made for hard surface use - asphalt, concrete, etc. -- so I guess this explains the better wear. The standard McLaren NuAir DT tires, however, last around 3,000 hours.

And finally, our McLaren's are definitely retreadable. I'm posting some pictures I got. Note that there is no problem with the holes tearing up whatsoever, so whoever told you that the circle holes are bad for the tires has been messing up with you...

[hillboy]

Actually, I have already attached the pictures here:

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=210987&page=4

[ksss]

Hi BigDigger, first, congratulations on your purchase, your tires look pretty cool!
However, I think you got it slightly wrong on the McLaren's -- we have been using them for quite some time and we never had a spinning rim problem and I have never seen any holes getting torn as you suggest (see the pictures below). We have McLaren flat proof tires on 8 machines and plan to put them on the other 3 we have.

Second, I think the press-on/off feature they have is great because you can later buy just tires without rims and save big!!! If I remember right, they had a promo where you can get $1,000 saving per set when you buy the tires without rims.

And yes, having more holes translates into better cushioning and indeed the McLaren's run much smoother than any foam-filled tire we had before.

Regarding how long they last -- one of our machines has MccLaren NuAir AT and we already have over 3,000 hours on the tires and they are still going. Based on the wear, I think they'll go over 3,500 hrs. This NuAir AT tire is specially made for hard surface use - asphalt, concrete, etc. -- so I guess this explains the better wear. The standard McLaren NuAir DT tires, however, last around 3,000 hours.

And finally, our McLaren's are definitely retreadable. I'm posting some pictures I got. Note that there is no problem with the holes tearing up whatsoever, so whoever told you that the circle holes are bad for the tires has been messing up with you...


I just got my NuAirs on last night. Dam they are heavy. I probably added 500 pounds to my ROC. I noticed the same thing on the holes. The holes don't squat like Galaxy said they would. I even rocked the entire machine on its tail and the holes in the rear tires did not squat. The ride is very close to regular tires. I think if you did not know they were Nu Airs you would think they were regular air tires.

Here is my only issue so far with the Nu Airs. I am concerned about the width. They appear to be more narrow than a standard tire. I should have caught that. My 465 is borderline too heavy for 12X16.5s. Now I am riding on even a more narrow tire. I am not happy about that. I will see how well they work but I think I will sink in soft material.

Did I say these tires were heavy.:weightlifter:

[BigDigger]

I just got my NuAirs on last night. Dam they are heavy. I probably added 500 pounds to my ROC. I noticed the same thing on the holes. The holes don't squat like Galaxy said they would. I even rocked the entire machine on its tail and the holes in the rear tires did not squat. The ride is very close to regular tires. I think if you did not know they were Nu Airs you would think they were regular air tires.

Here is my only issue so far with the Nu Airs. I am concerned about the width. They appear to be more narrow than a standard tire. I should have caught that. My 465 is borderline too heavy for 12X16.5s. Now I am riding on even a more narrow tire. I am not happy about that. I will see how well they work but I think I will sink in soft material.

Did I say these tires were heavy.:weightlifter:

In regards to Brawlers, so I don't know if it's the same as NuAirs. The only number that matters is the actual tread width. Air tires always appear wider because of bulge or the rounded contour of the tire from rim to tread, however the actual contact patch is exactly the same. That is something to consider, because that rounded profile doesn't help you at all, but it makes them "look" bigger.

Just something to consider.

[ksss]

In regards to Brawlers, so I don't know if it's the same as NuAirs. The only number that matters is the actual tread width. Air tires always appear wider because of bulge or the rounded contour of the tire from rim to tread, however the actual contact patch is exactly the same. That is something to consider, because that rounded profile doesn't help you at all, but it makes them "look" bigger.

Just something to consider.


I have considered that.

I just dropped my machine off on a job. The topsoil if you can call it that is more like 3/8 gravel/sand. When trying to back drag, the machine hops. It might have done that with the regular tires, but I am sure not pulling off the NuAirs to see if it does the same with regular tires. I am assuming that the not flex characteristics of these tires don't allow the tire to conform to the ground as well. Never the less I will have to put the VTS 440 on this job. I will get nothing done in these conditions with those tires. If this is my experience in all conditions or even half, they are going to go back. I am really liking the idea of between the NuAirs and the VTS of never getting a flat, but I need to get something done as well.

[Canon Landscaping]

Why didn't you get the air monsters 15x16.5 if you needed more flotation?

[ksss]

Why didn't you get the air monsters 15x16.5 if you needed more flotation?

Because I wanted to keep the ability to run OTT with this machine. I have never run these types of tires before, so I did not know what to expect. If I had it to do over, I might have gone with the wider tires. I am really hoping I am not going to regret buying these. If worse comes to worse, I will get the 15" next year and put these on the 440 when it does not have the VTS on it and put them on when running tracks on the 465. Thats a lot dicking around, but it might be the best solution.

[Junior M]

I have considered that.

I just dropped my machine off on a job. The topsoil if you can call it that is more like 3/8 gravel/sand. When trying to back drag, the machine hops. It might have done that with the regular tires, but I am sure not pulling off the NuAirs to see if it does the same with regular tires. I am assuming that the not flex characteristics of these tires don't allow the tire to conform to the ground as well. Never the less I will have to put the VTS 440 on this job. I will get nothing done in these conditions with those tires. If this is my experience in all conditions or even half, they are going to go back. I am really liking the idea of between the NuAirs and the VTS of never getting a flat, but I need to get something done as well.
:laugh:

What yall call topsoil, we call gravel..

And you run CASE, sense when do you ever get anything done? :laugh: :laugh:

[ksss]

:laugh:

What yall call topsoil, we call gravel..

And you run CASE, sense when do you ever get anything done? :laugh: :laugh:

O' Jr.

At least I don't have to go to the local rental store to pick up my equipment!


Beating up on you is about as rewarding as when I used to dot my sister's eyes when we were kids.:sleeping:

[Junior M]

O' Jr.

At least I don't have to go to the local rental store to pick up my equipment!


Beating up on you is about as rewarding as when I used to dot my sister's eyes when we were kids.:sleeping:
Oh, ouch that hurts.. NOT.. I really dont care, if things dont pick up, I am goin to take a break and just let things roll and have fun..

And I dont go to just any old rental store, I roll to Bobcat.. :weightlifter: :cool2::cool2:

[ksss]

Oh, ouch that hurts.. NOT.. I really dont care, if things dont pick up, I am goin to take a break and just let things roll and have fun..

And I dont go to just any old rental store, I roll to Bobcat.. :weightlifter: :cool2::cool2:



Ha! you roll to BC. Riddle me this, do they have short bus taxi's that take you to BC Country or does your mom take you?:laugh:

[stuvecorp]

Ha! you roll to BC. Riddle me this, do they have short bus taxi's that take you to BC Country or does your mom take you?:laugh:

Oh, Snap!:dizzy:

[Junior M]

Ha! you roll to BC. Riddle me this, do they have short bus taxi's that take you to BC Country or does your mom take you?:laugh:
I prefer to drive, as long as I got my buddy or the guy that helps us with me, its legal! Until September till I can legally drive by myself..

btw, the short bus must be nice, I heard you still ride it.. :p :laugh:

[Canon Landscaping]

How do you like the ott tracks on the 465? Every skid here runs ott and they never come off I have never used them bacause I have a ctl but I might use them on my 262c.

[BigDigger]

Oh, Snap!:dizzy:

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! that's exactly what I was thinking. Geez, someone must have put a scratch in KSSS' Case this morning :laugh::drinkup:


Hey Jr, don't worry man, I am always up for some case bashing....even with BC fanboy such as yourself. The way I see it I can still convince you to get a real machine....KSSS however....:cry:....you just can't fix that :laugh:

[stuvecorp]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! that's exactly what I was thinking. Geez, someone must have put a scratch in KSSS' Case this morning :laugh::drinkup:


Hey Jr, don't worry man, I am always up for some case bashing....even with BC fanboy such as yourself. The way I see it I can still convince you to get a real machine....KSSS however....:cry:....you just can't fix that :laugh:

Biggie, the only Kryptonite to a Case is a bad operator.:)

[ksss]

How do you like the ott tracks on the 465? Every skid here runs ott and they never come off I have never used them bacause I have a ctl but I might use them on my 262c.


They are really amazing. I don't need them often but when you need that you need them. Now that I don't have to worry about flats, the OTT makes them the perfect unimproved surface track system, I think. They are relatively cheap, last a long time and gives your machine incredible capacity in tough conditions. Now that I have a machine with VTS, I probably wont need my OTT as much. However, as soon as I give up the ability to put OTT on the 465, I will need to track it. Thats how my luck is.

[Junior M]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! that's exactly what I was thinking. Geez, someone must have put a scratch in KSSS' Case this morning :laugh::drinkup:


Hey Jr, don't worry man, I am always up for some case bashing....even with BC fanboy such as yourself. The way I see it I can still convince you to get a real machine....KSSS however....:cry:....you just can't fix that :laugh:
I'll stick with Bobcat unless you can convince the CAT dealer here to give us the same deal Bobcat does..

[JDSKIDSTEER]

I sold two sets of Brawlers this week.

[TimTim2008]

wow................

[tyan707]

Hi all,

Been luring on the site along time now, finally decided to post here.

KSSS, what made you choose the Mclaren over the other brands?
I just got a quote from McLaren and they look like the ones from Skid Steer Solutions but are quite a bit more expensive than the ones from skid steer solutions.

Just wondering before I make a purchase.

[hillboy]

Hi all,

Been luring on the site along time now, finally decided to post here.

KSSS, what made you choose the Mclaren over the other brands?
I just got a quote from McLaren and they look like the ones from Skid Steer Solutions but are quite a bit more expensive than the ones from skid steer solutions.

Just wondering before I make a purchase.

If you are looking for cheaper flat proof tires, I noticed a lot of them on ebay including skid steer solutions, radmeister, and few other. The McLaren flat proof tires, however, are on the top of my high quality list as they have a proven record with us. They are also cheaper in the long run since you can save big by getting rimless tires and mount them on your original McLaren rims, or just re-tread the worn-out McLarens. We run Bullman and McLaren Nu-Air DT and AT tires, and the Nu-Air AT is the only tire we had so far that can reach 3,500 work hours. The DT lasts about 3,000 hrs, and the Bullman about 2,000 hrs. The McLaren also have a very smooth and soft ride, very similar to the pneumatics but not so bouncy. Don't be mislead by the look -- like your truck tires, the look is not all that makes the tire last long, it's mostly the rubber compound and the internal tire structure. I think the McLarens have got it right. But at the end, it really depends on what kind of work you'll do and how long you want your tires to last. :usflag:

[ksss]

If you are looking for cheaper flat proof tires, I noticed a lot of them on ebay including skid steer solutions, radmeister, and few other. The McLaren flat proof tires, however, are on the top of my high quality list as they have a proven record with us. They are also cheaper in the long run since you can save big by getting rimless tires and mount them on your original McLaren rims, or just re-tread the worn-out McLarens. We run Bullman and McLaren Nu-Air DT and AT tires, and the Nu-Air AT is the only tire we had so far that can reach 3,500 work hours. The DT lasts about 3,000 hrs, and the Bullman about 2,000 hrs. The McLaren also have a very smooth and soft ride, very similar to the pneumatics but not so bouncy. Don't be mislead by the look -- like your truck tires, the look is not all that makes the tire last long, it's mostly the rubber compound and the internal tire structure. I think the McLarens have got it right. But at the end, it really depends on what kind of work you'll do and how long you want your tires to last. :usflag:


It really came down to price, By the time SSS factored in shipping it was the same number as the Nu Airs. I found another company that sold what I think is the SSS tire but the guy was dicken me around on the price and shipping so I beat up McLaren to get the number I could like with.

Thats how I ended up with Mclaren

The ride really is that good. Amazing really. I will say that they tear the heck out of grass. The tread is like 2" deep and when you spin on grass its just like a rototiller.

I may order the wider Nu Airs to put on the 465 and keep the 12X16.5 for using tracks and on the 440 when the VTS is not on it.

[BigDigger]

The ride really is that good. Amazing really. I will say that they tear the heck out of grass. The tread is like 2" deep and when you spin on grass its just like a rototiller.



Rototiller.....Yes, that was the metaphor I should have used. Very accurate. I am a 3 point turn man for sure now.

Yeah the ride quality is really quite good. It's surprising...I think the best part is the lack of the beach ball effect I have talked about before.....so much more solid, and you can't add weight any lower on your machine than with these tires, they make the machine so stable with a full bucket in the air.

Glad to hear you are liking them.....it's the peace of mind that I love the most. Simply nothing to worry about now.

[tyan707]

It really came down to price, By the time SSS factored in shipping it was the same number as the Nu Airs. I found another company that sold what I think is the SSS tire but the guy was dicken me around on the price and shipping so I beat up McLaren to get the number I could like with.

Thats how I ended up with Mclaren



Well, between Mclaren and SSS I have a difference of $800.00 and that's including shipping and all.

That's a lot of difference for me. The quote I got is for the Nu Airs AT, dont know if the Nu Airs DT are cheaper.

[ksss]

Well, between Mclaren and SSS I have a difference of $800.00 and that's including shipping and all.

That's a lot of difference for me. The quote I got is for the Nu Airs AT, dont know if the Nu Airs DT are cheaper.

Mine is the AT I believe (typical skid steer tread). I would not be afraid of the SSS tire. I corresponded back and for with the guy, I think its probably as good as anything else out there. I looked at it it like this, if replace a set every 700 hours and if these tires can get me to 2100 hours. I made all my money back and I never had to visit the tire shop. From what I have read, I think any of the better tires will do that. SSS has a lot of rubber like the McLaren and the Galaxy tire, these all three will ride better and last longer than the type that only have a little bit of rubber on a 20 inch wheel.

[hillboy]

Well, between Mclaren and SSS I have a difference of $800.00 and that's including shipping and all.

That's a lot of difference for me. The quote I got is for the Nu Airs AT, dont know if the Nu Airs DT are cheaper.

Tyan, the DT are cheaper than the AT. AT is the most expensive tire they have. In hard times like what we have now, you should definitely ask for a deal! I know I would :drinkup: If they want your business, they better help you some by dropping few dollars. We always ask for discount these days and we usually get it!