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EJD Lawnpride
05-04-2009, 09:21 PM
I'm looking at two trucks right now.
1. 1997 Ford f350 7.3l diesel with 143,000mi for $7000 obo

or
2. 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9l gas with 92,000mi with Myers plow for $7000 obo

What is the better truck to buy?

ZTR_Diesel
05-04-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm looking at two trucks right now.
1. 1997 Ford f350 7.3l diesel with 143,000mi for $7000 obo

or
2. 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9l gas with 92,000mi with Myers plow for $7000 obo

What is the better truck to buy?


Before I answer - I'll ask you a question: What do you need, or What is your application?

That's a pretty big differance there, a Gas Dodge vs. a diesel Ford. The 1997 Ford is the older "block" model that is very strong but has issues with rust,and rides, well, uh...like a buckboard unloaded. Good engine with the 7.3L PSD but if an auto it may need a new E4OD at some point.

The Dodge with the gas 5.9 isn't attractive to me, an the plow would knock it down a couple more points. Plowing is very hard on any truck. These also have some rust issues and are PIGS with gas (try 11 mpg and you're not far off). I would only consider a second gen Dodge with the Cummins diesel, and then I'd prefer an older 12 valve as they didn't have the VP-44 injection & lift pump issues. Thier auto trans will fail, gas or diesel, at some point as well.

That said, for $7k both trucks seem about 1500 - 2000 too much.

I'd keep looking and visit some truck-specific sites as well.

TXNSLighting
05-04-2009, 10:37 PM
The 97 Powerstroke is the much better truck of the 2, hands down. You should be able to get it for about $5-6k depending on cab configuration and all that.

Gravel Rat
05-05-2009, 01:12 AM
Well for one the 7.3 will get better fuel mileage the 360 Dodge gas engine is a pig on fuel. The F-350 Ford is a more reliable 4 wheeldrive the F-350 has a Dana 60 with manual hubs pretty basic some trucks came with automatics but can be changed over to manuals.

I would take the 97 Ford over the Dodge.

White Gardens
05-05-2009, 01:47 AM
Find out what the 7.3 was used for. I do believe that the 97 didn't have the auto high idle setting. If, and I say a big if, the 97 ford idle most of it's life, then I would stay away. Before the high idle was introduced, it would tend to "wet stack" the valves when idled for long periods, thus changing the valve lash and seating. Otherwise, many people will say that the 7.3 from that era was the best Navistar ever built.

Otherwise, I'd stay away from the 90's dodge. Nothing but a headache from what people have told me about them. The auto trannies were junk in them anyways and the cummins diesel would trash the auto fairly quickly in the diesel models.

EJD Lawnpride
05-05-2009, 09:16 AM
The Ford is actually owned by a guy that used it for driving back and forth to work. But didn't drive as much due to having another vehicle. he can't afford the payments anymore, and owes about $5500and wants to try to walk away with a little extra. I already have a 2001 Dodge ram 1500 5.9 gas and had the tranny rebuilt last summer, It now has a noise from the rear. I thought maybe a 2500 would be better for towing my 16" trailer with 2 ztrs and 1 36 walk.

WH401
05-05-2009, 09:26 AM
Go with the Ford. The 7.3 Powerstroke is the best diesel ever put in a FORD and it will handle that trailer of yours much better than the 5.9 gasser. Those year 7.3's can have camshaft sensor and glow plug relay issues, but there minor compared to the benefit that the 7.3 will give you. Both of those things are simple fixes.

outlaw1960
05-05-2009, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=WH401;2971356]Go with the Ford. The 7.3 Powerstroke is the best diesel ever put in a FORD and it will handle that trailer of yours much better than the 5.9 gasser. Those year 7.3's can have camshaft sensor and glow plug relay issues, but there minor compared to the benefit that the 7.3 will give you. Both of those things are simple fixes.[/QUOTE

Ditto, I am on my fourth Ford with a 7.3. Great engines, almost bulletproof with good maintenance. And that is my favorite body style also, Good Luck with your decision!

mag360
05-05-2009, 10:34 PM
The ford is the better truck out of those two hands down. And that is coming from a dodge guy.

EJD Lawnpride
05-06-2009, 09:30 PM
ok, here is the details the ford has 186k on it. had all new brakes,alt, rebuilt trans, ball joints, batteries and tires. it also comes with a 7.5 ft western plow. Said he used it twice and hated plowing,which i believe because my worker knows him and said he didn't even know he had a plow. The price is $4900,which he owes on it. What do you think? It is clean! I saw it a few weeks ago. How many miles can i expect on the 7.3 powerstroke?

TXNSLighting
05-06-2009, 09:46 PM
Offer $6! Hes had all the negatives fixed. If maintained those engines can last well into the half million mile range. But thats all in how its driven.

Gravel Rat
05-06-2009, 10:04 PM
The mileage is a little high or what we consider high because of the conditions here and RUST. For 4900 its not a bad price all the things have been repaired so go for it. If the truck isn't rusted to h*ll I don't see why not.

TXNSLighting
05-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Thats supposed to be $6k...

Gravel Rat
05-07-2009, 12:13 AM
For 6 grand that is a little steep the truck would have to be in good shape for that price.

TXNSLighting
05-07-2009, 12:32 AM
Thats a good price for america. I dont think he has said if its a CC or a reg cab...If its a crew its completely worth it.

Gravel Rat
05-07-2009, 01:23 AM
If its a crewcab maybe. The most in demand truck here is OBS regular cab F-350 4x4 with PSD a crew cab really isn't a big seller. The most common around here is ext cab F-250s.

Most OBS Fords are getting pretty rusty you will be hard pressed not to find one without some orange cancer.

EJD Lawnpride
05-07-2009, 07:04 AM
It is the crew cab.

outlaw1960
05-07-2009, 10:51 AM
I would buy it. The miles are not too high. Does it have any rust? All the problems have been addressed.....good luck

VirginiaLawnCare
05-07-2009, 01:27 PM
I would go for it that's a good deal. That year in crew cab around here go for a arm and a leg regardless of how many miles are on it.

Bass1
05-07-2009, 06:19 PM
I just bought a 96 Ford F-250, 2wd 7.3 liter diesel, with minor body damage, the only issue it has 330,000 miles on it original motor. I bought it from a guy that I know, he took good care of it changed the oil every 5,000 miles, the A/C works great, heater works. It has a manual transmission, and it pulls awesome. It leaks no oil what so ever. When I bought it from him it had the original dual mash flywheel in it, it was bad so I bought the flywheel replacement kit for it that came with a new flywheel, throughout bearing, pressure plate, 13" clutch to replace the stock 12" clutch. I paid a whopping $400.00 dollars for the truck.

TXNSLighting
05-08-2009, 12:15 AM
Wow, yeh thats a steal then. That truck would go for around $8-10k here. Its super hard to find a crew cab 350 4x4 around here. So when one turns up, it doesnt sit long.

J&R Landscaping
05-08-2009, 12:35 AM
That sounds like a really good deal!

mtg97
05-08-2009, 02:47 AM
100 thous **** starts goin on the psd, seen it too many times. I have a f450 super duty dump dually, nothing at all has went in 3 years, except high pressure fuel lines, 10 dollars to fix, bought a perfection extreme performance clutch 410 dollars, 5 months ago and nevr put it in yet