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STRINGALATION
05-13-2009, 11:22 PM
Well here goes imust love abuse to keep posting on here but




this great customer was still sitting on a rough grade when i met him .gave a finish grade seed in the back sod up front. i know the seed of my sod guys so i get a match. small bed placed in pocket between house and walkway. no one has cut this but me . mine only for almost three years.

he comes to me yesterday with i want a bed across the front of the other side. i want it ti come out further and some flowers. end of conversation. like i said great customer.

i know his wife will just stick a pot in the grass which pisses me off now i cant cut easy no more so i wanted to make a place for here to put her
begonias

uuugghh just noticed i added a extra column where they met next door and the front is not brick but the back
this is now



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a peek at the back

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heres what im thinking might work that also wont be dropping crap in the yard no leaf or foliar cleanup at this point so i wanna keep it to a minimum


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fire when ready

White Gardens
05-14-2009, 02:13 AM
From what I can tell, it looks like you've made just a simple design for a simple space and it should work fairly well. If you do too much more than that it might muck things up.

Instead of Planters on the columns, how about lighting ??

AGLA
05-14-2009, 06:45 AM
For some reason, I can't see the photos.

AGLA
05-14-2009, 07:24 AM
Now I have, 'em.

I would not want the spruce front and center like that, it cuts the landscape in half. I'd want you to take care of two birds with one stone by putting the tree to the right and in front of that hideous concrete wall of the abutters to shift the attention and balance back toward the front door. A trellis between the windows with climber on it would be nicer because it is flat against the wall.

When you make strong focal points in the middle of wall faces, it tends to fragment the overall look of the landscape. Right now the gazing ball is working because it is small and lower than the outside shrubs. I'd rather see the pots on either side of the walkway or at least much smaller pots if they stay in the middle.

I'm a big believer that your eye goes to where things are not. I'm also a big believer that a house looks best it your eye wants to go to the front door. A big thing out in front of one of those walls tends to make you look to both sides of it and not find anything. It acts like a snow plow coming at you. If you build up the outsides it acts like a funnel drawing you in. .... my opinion.

STRINGALATION
05-14-2009, 08:17 PM
first off i could not have picked a better pair of responders as far as people whose opinion i value and i mean that.

1. i dont think i can handle what it would take to install those lights correctly.. wow i'm growing up to say that. lol
2. lol those where suppose to represent begonias not GAZING BALLZ the scouge of the landscape. but i felt to much red going on with the mulch so went to white petunias
3. i completely love the tree framing concept. makes sense. some stuff you say agla i think i know subcontously you know what i was spelling . i learned that during design principles where you dont want yourcorners taller than the house
4. i would love to be the contractor on one of your designs. if its not to much i would love a full desgn from you plant list and all just to bid on it. i know the regions are diff pprice es are diff blah blah i just wnt to feel the big leagues, and vellum that was my prfessional reference.



well here goes


this is what those rings are you are seeing around the planters. i thought i would throw that in to clarify things



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i feel the white petunias and the relocation of the spruce opened it back up. aswell as the smaller size planters which went back to the same size as the rest. thanks AGLA

WHITE GARDENS: what about regular lighting in the 2 front corners washing the house. not a flood but a washer. hoping to keep this around $ 1500
ohh i do plan on raising those beds some what and i dont know if you noticed but with the spruce going to the wall i exstended the bed to the wall' like a triple titty. no offense but i usual refer personally to beds a a double titty and this is my first triple i think?

STRINGALATION
05-14-2009, 08:21 PM
also my design concepts and priciples sad you want to draw attention to the door

AGLA
05-14-2009, 09:02 PM
It was the ADT sign in the before picture that I thought was a gazing ball, that's even funnier!

You don't have much bed space to work with on the left. What you have on that side is working. I know your customer wants to keep it simple, but if you could get a couple of shrubs on the right side it would make a big difference. You could stay basic with a couple of azaleas of a larger variety on either end of that wall and a lower wider japanese holly or other evergreen of that form in between the two pots for example. Just don't get vertical between the windows, unless it is something flat and wide on the wall (trellis).

STRINGALATION
05-14-2009, 09:53 PM
the keep it simple concept was mine. i work here so clutter is a pain. also i was going for a manor type of formal stately look.

that gazing ball was hillarious it made sense once you stated your focus. i thought about moving the arborvitae that was becoming trash to the center point on the right.

all though i do like the trellis concept maybe clematis or morning glory. i'm going do a take off tonight and see where i am cost wise. i'll play with the trellis idea i like that concept over any more shrubs dont know why but i think it gives it a softness as appose to the shrub

STRINGALATION
05-14-2009, 09:55 PM
you lost me with the azalea reference ?what wall are you refering to

AGLA
05-15-2009, 07:20 AM
Oh, the reference to the azaleas is about the side to the right of the walk. Remove the arb. One azalea next to the steps, one near the corner of the house and a low japanese holly between the windows (and pots). A trellis could go behind it.

White Gardens
05-15-2009, 08:56 AM
WHITE GARDENS: what about regular lighting in the 2 front corners washing the house. not a flood but a washer. hoping to keep this around $ 1500
ohh i do plan on raising those beds some what and i dont know if you noticed but with the spruce going to the wall i exstended the bed to the wall' like a triple titty. no offense but i usual refer personally to beds a a double titty and this is my first triple i think?[/QUOTE]

I would think that it would look good if you could do it cheap. If you went to standard voltage, you would probably need a licensed electrician to put them in, but if it was low-voltage landscape lightigng, you would probably be OK.

When it comes to the low-voltage stuff, it seems the transformer is the initial investment and everything else is reasonably priced.

All in all, AGLA got you covered on the plantings.

IDK, I've only done a couple simple lighting projects, maybe something you would need to take up in the Lighting forum. Plenty of people there who do nothing but lighting, so they could give you a better idea.

White Gardens
05-15-2009, 08:58 AM
WHITE GARDENS: what about regular lighting in the 2 front corners washing the house. not a flood but a washer. hoping to keep this around $ 1500
ohh i do plan on raising those beds some what and i dont know if you noticed but with the spruce going to the wall i exstended the bed to the wall' like a triple titty. no offense but i usual refer personally to beds a a double titty and this is my first triple i think?[/QUOTE]

I would think that it would look good if you could do it cheap. If you went to standard voltage, you would probably need a licensed electrician to put them in, but if it was low-voltage landscape lighting, you would probably be OK.

When it comes to the low-voltage stuff, it seems the transformer is the initial investment and everything else is reasonably priced.

All in all, AGLA got you covered on the plantings.

IDK, I've only done a couple simple lighting projects, maybe something you would need to take up in the Lighting forum. Plenty of people there who do nothing but lighting, so they could give you a better idea.

STRINGALATION
05-26-2009, 01:53 AM
well change of pace. just to update he wants some sort of barrier around the bed so i'm going to shoot for a 2 course and cap wall. so trying to figuure out how to play this. at this point i'm going for rogers block windsor. for the record they lookjust like pavestones. people here have me self concience now but what is the difference in blocks. i understand the difff in weight and pins freestanding but other than item specific what is the difference. there is a place here lee brick and block they make there own blocks. wish i could custom a small run of blue blocks

STRINGALATION
05-29-2009, 03:13 AM
WELL HERE IS THE GRANDIOSE DEAL. shot down some ideas ran with the others. the wall is around 40 blocks long so i wanted to break it up by throwing in an accent block every10 blocks including the caps. dont let the photo fool you those bricks on the house are red with a white wash over them. the pinks are knockouts, arbivitaes and hostas pretty simple. i was going serpitine but she wanted the arc i actually like the lay out.
he wants to salvage some of the grass to put on the side where some stuff died so now i need a sod cutter. i decided i'm gonna rent a compactor. i have a tamper but i think i want to use the compactor just to get the feel for it. i'm
gonna raise the bed with 2yards of perinneal mix. 4" of mulch and snapshot
just got finish pricing it at $1400 will present tomorrow


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before shot early 2007 that was the first cut put on that sod:clapping:

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STRINGALATION
05-30-2009, 11:28 PM
Well the wall has been started and that is hard work. for starters the logistics. i have a half-ton truck and a 5*8 trailor. cannot haul everything.

wel bluebird sod-cutter was very impressive. the compactor was sweet as well. man that thing is heavy. these shots are after the sod cutter and after packing. alot of stuff i read said that this size wall did not need to bury first course, did not need paver base, or backfill. so its not as deep as i originally intended. but next time i will bury the first course anyway. thank NEW HORIZON.


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STRINGALATION
05-30-2009, 11:41 PM
HERE IS A LOOK AT THE WALL AND MY POINTS

1 MAY CHANGE UP THE ACCENT PATTERN
2 WILL RAISE SECTION AROUND THE ACCENT, ON THE BOTTOM, ON THE LEFT
3NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CUT CAPS TO DO THE CURVES AND TO MAKE FLUSH WITH THE WALL
NOT PLUMB EITHER PITCHES FORWARD A TAD
IT'S MY FIRST WALL AND I'M PROUD OF IT. ITS NOT GREAT I KNOW, JUST HAD TO CUT MY TEETH SOMEWHERE SOOOOOOOO HERE IT IS.


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STRINGALATION
05-30-2009, 11:47 PM
MORE SHOTS


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well thats all fortoday will go back monday and finish up


dont worry i will get better

STRINGALATION
06-01-2009, 09:29 PM
:clapping::clapping:


well for starters i dont think its perfect but i give thanks to you great hardscapers of lawnsite just because i have seen hooooorrible wallls
so i dont think i'm way way off from doing quality work . i only say that to say i know i need improvement but i will get there i promise.



well enough of the stalling here goes.

i re-adjusted a section of wall which i used as a entry exit for 2yards of 50/50 soil compost. i have had good success with this stuff. i got a BOSCH ANGLE GRINDER WITH CRETE BLADE THAT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE. MY FIRST CUTS MIND YOU.

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STRINGALATION
06-01-2009, 09:40 PM
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STRINGALATION
06-21-2009, 06:31 PM
humpty bump sat on his rump