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Natural Impressions
05-21-2009, 11:35 PM
I just finished my book for the day and wrote up my billing for tomorrows cuts. My wife looked over my shoulder and noticed my Money owed sheet and couldn't believe how many costomers owed me money at this time. I tried to explain to her some people pay weekly and monthly so it varies. And some just like to take there time paying.

She felt that the customers that are late should not recieve any further sevice until it is paid current. Now this is something I would love to do but the fact that I only have 43 current costomers that keep me busy 3 days a week cutting there lawns and 3 days a week with other various services ( mulch, installations, removals and such) that this isn't something that I feel comfortable doing.

I told her this a common problem many LCO's have and just have to put up with it. If I had 300 accounts this might be a different story.

I have never really had a problem with getting current with payment by years. No more them $200 owed or not paid in the 5 years I have been involved in this service. And those are account I have since dropped if not paid.

I guess I was just wondering if anyone is in the same boat as me.

Good luck and hope everyone has a great season.

eaglescout
05-22-2009, 12:13 AM
I used to sign my accounts up one month in advance. I got some customers whom questioned this, however after a while they got used to the idea. They were under contract and knew I would be there at Monday 8:00 or whatever time or day. When I got up to 38 accounts I had to put them on a waiting list.

JDiepstra
05-22-2009, 12:30 AM
I bill monthly for lawncare. I've stopped service on two people who were two months behind.

Natural Impressions
05-22-2009, 12:42 AM
I used to sign my accounts up one month in advance. I got some customers whom questioned this, however after a while they got used to the idea. They were under contract and knew I would be there at Monday 8:00 or whatever time or day. When I got up to 38 accounts I had to put them on a waiting list.


I do something like that. People who want to pay monthly have to give a deposit of 2 weeks in advance. Then they pay monthly and the deposit goes towards the last 2 cuts of the year.

S.I.
05-22-2009, 02:15 AM
I bill monthly and give 30 days to pay, if they get to 30 days I call and let them know if it is not brought up to date I will not be able to service the property until it is. Most of the time it is just an oversight on their part (or that is the excuse anyway) and they bring me the money or have it waiting when I show up to service.

whoopassonthebluegrass
05-22-2009, 06:04 AM
...She felt that the customers that are late should not recieve any further sevice until it is paid current... I told her this a common problem many LCO's have and just have to put up with it.

This is my experience. IF you wanna be a hard ass and get that $100 out of someone, the price you'll pay is the future thousands they might have generated for you had you not pissed them off.

Just be sticky sweet to people and communicate with them. I've asked a couple late payers if the economy has hurt them, and that's embarrassed them into getting caught up.

Good luck.

bohiaa
05-22-2009, 07:42 PM
I just finished my book for the day and wrote up my billing for tomorrows cuts. My wife looked over my shoulder and noticed my Money owed sheet and couldn't believe how many costomers owed me money at this time. I tried to explain to her some people pay weekly and monthly so it varies. And some just like to take there time paying.

She felt that the customers that are late should not recieve any further sevice until it is paid current. Now this is something I would love to do but the fact that I only have 43 current costomers that keep me busy 3 days a week cutting there lawns and 3 days a week with other various services ( mulch, installations, removals and such) that this isn't something that I feel comfortable doing.

I told her this a common problem many LCO's have and just have to put up with it. If I had 300 accounts this might be a different story.

I have never really had a problem with getting current with payment by years. No more them $200 owed or not paid in the 5 years I have been involved in this service. And those are account I have since dropped if not paid.

I guess I was just wondering if anyone is in the same boat as me.

Good luck and hope everyone has a great season.


It's real difficult for some one NOT in the business to give some one IN the business advice,

I never did understand when my childless friends whould give me advice on raising my childern..:confused:

THEGOLDPRO
05-22-2009, 08:03 PM
i still have checks trickleing in from plowing, its part of the business, basically it comes down to landscapers are always the last ones to be paid. they are always gonna pay the vehicle loans, and house payments before the grass guy.

landscaper22
05-23-2009, 02:16 PM
I have no problem with not servicing until I'm paid if they are late. Only problem is you are creating more work on yourself. You can tell them they will have to pay more for the greater work load caused by the missed service, but good luck with that. I would rather communicate with them (in a nice way) and explain the situation. If the problem continues I will start applying late fees. This, however, usually gets you fired and makes the customer angry too. And I don't want to make a customer angry if they owe me money.
Best to just drop the ones that you feel are really trying to shaft you. Only other option is to tell the customer they must pay in advance or at time of service. If you do the monthly billing (which I like), then have them pay during the month you are servicing rather than wait until the end of the month and bill and then give them 20-30 days to pay. Because a customer that is trying to shaft you can owe y ou for two months of service before you realize there is a problem.

Client Critic
05-23-2009, 08:11 PM
Debt collection has been a growing problem over the last few years and it will continue to grow until the economy stabilizes. We have noticed customers losing jobs and cancelling service, without paying. Our company accepts credit cards and keep them on file. If balances go out pass 60 days we charge card and send them a statement showing balance is cleared up. You might want to consider something like this or have them prepay for monthly services. The longer you let this problem drag out the less likely you'll be able to collect or it will get worse over the years as your business grows.
You may want to screen potential clients on our website. It's free and as our membership grows, it will become a more valuable asset to your company.

Woody82986
05-24-2009, 04:15 PM
Collecting payments has become almost an art form. 98% of the time, I never have to worry about it. Another 1.75% of the time, a simple reminder email takes care of it. That other .25% is the only tricky part. I'm more than willing to work with someone who truly has something weird going on for a short period of time if they have an established track record of good payment with me. I don't ever want to come across either desperate or pissed about a late payment if there happens to be a good reason for slow payment. I'm not about to lose a client who might spend the next 4 years as a client and put thousands into my bank account over them being slow with payment by a few days each month. There is a fine line to walk there though, and if they just keep getting later and later, only a fool wouldn't see that eventually the payments won't come at all. It's all about balance and communication. The more communication you have with your clients, the better.

Stillwater
06-08-2009, 04:34 AM
Debt collection has been a growing problem over the last few years and it will continue to grow until the economy stabilizes. We have noticed customers losing jobs and cancelling service, without paying. Our company accepts credit cards and keep them on file. If balances go out pass 60 days we charge card and send them a statement showing balance is cleared up. You might want to consider something like this or have them prepay for monthly services. The longer you let this problem drag out the less likely you'll be able to collect or it will get worse over the years as your business grows.
You may want to screen potential clients on our website. It's free and as our membership grows, it will become a more valuable asset to your company.


auto charge customers,,..... then when the customer calls their credit card company to dispute the charge and request the signature slip (their is none) it is carged back to you, is this true?

JDiepstra
06-08-2009, 11:53 AM
auto charge customers,,..... then when the customer calls their credit card company to dispute the charge and request the signature slip (their is none) it is carged back to you, is this true?

For the most part yes. The customer will almost always win if there is no sig.

ontheouter
06-13-2009, 11:06 PM
I ran my business into the wall for the first few years because of late payers and clients accruing services in arrears. Then I woke up one day and took an entirely different approach.

These days I won't continue services until the previous service has been paid, leaving a polite pre-printed note in the mailbox. For clients who are just trying to shaft me with payments and always paying one day before the next service (oh... aren't they clever :rolleyes:) well they just get replaced and removed from the client list, because we all know they'll only get worse over time.

Here's to no bad payers!