Navigator Stripes

[DLAWNS]

Myself and Masternate have been talking about starting a Navigator stripe thread for a while so hear it is. Feel free to post your pics.

[DLAWNS]

The third picture in the last group looked better in person, but is kind of a crappy lawn. Here's some more. Enjoy!

[DLAWNS]

Last few from me...the last one is all the clippings from one house. My brother in laws house grows very fast. I just fertilized, it rained like mad and I had to let it go a week because I was so behind.

[Green Skapes]

Here are some of the lawns I do. I do them all with a Ferris 48" Hydro Walk Behind. I think the mower does a great job of striping.

[zak406]

very nice!!!! were i used to work we ran walker mowers, the owner had gates welded toward the back of the trailer on the back edge so we could back the mowers into the bed of the truck and dump. It loooks like you got a good setup tho keep up the good wokr

[2brothersyardcare]

lets see the setup man

[metro36]

Here are some of the lawns I do. I do them all with a Ferris 48" Hydro Walk Behind. I think the mower does a great job of striping.

I thought this was a navigator stripe thread and a ferris is not a navigtor. A navigator is exmarks version of a walker.

[musselman]

I would also like to see pictures of your truck set up. I run walkers and thought it would be great to just suck up the clippings but never knew how well it would work. BTW where on that trailer do you put the navigator?it looks full. Also some info on the leaf loader would be nice. Nice set up.

[flatlander42]

we allready have an intruder......:nono:

In this pic, the straight stripes are from this week and the diagonal ones are from last week.....and yeah, this week the wind/heat kinda dried up stuff faster than they could turn up their spriklers!

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk198/masternate42/100_2135.jpg

[flatlander42]

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk198/masternate42/100_2124.jpg

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

Bill & MasterNate: How much grass do you collect in the spring?

I honestly envy the cleanness (is that a word???) of the bagging front mount mowers. Almost everyone here uses Walkers (because that's what the only dealer in the valley sells)... but MAN!!! All those clippings!!! All that extra time addressing the clippings!! All that extra space needed to hold the clippings!! All that extra gas consumed hauling the clippings!! All that stink when the clippings start to decompose!! :cry::cry::cry:

Ah well, to each their own... I'll but y'all are happier with YOUR mowers than I am with mine. :hammerhead:

[DLAWNS]

I thought this was a navigator stripe thread and a ferris is not a navigtor. A navigator is exmarks version of a walker.

That's what I was thinking...but it's all good.

I would also like to see pictures of your truck set up. I run walkers and thought it would be great to just suck up the clippings but never knew how well it would work. BTW where on that trailer do you put the navigator?it looks full. Also some info on the leaf loader would be nice. Nice set up.

I will look for the link with pictures of my setup. The leaf loader is great. It is a Billy goat 18 HP Vanguard and works amazing. It sucks leaves like crazy and takes care of grass clippings so much easier than putting them in green barrels. I tore my shoulder lifting barrels of grass last year and the leaf loader has been a savior. It's less time consuming also.

The navigator gets backed on backwards next to the Exmark Metro and the deck gets put up. Than the Toro gets pulled in the back and turned a little sideways to fit. It's a little tight but I haven't had a chance to try to sell that trailer and look at new ones. The reason the Toro was on there already was because I left my worker at another house to finish up while I was at this house.

[flatlander42]

Most of my lawns are bagged.....and put on the front of my trailer (sad little 16'er)
So about 3-4 cubic yards in 3 full days. *roughly*

Some of my places I just leave the back door open and let it shoot out the back, it works fine unless the grass is thick and tall. Then it just lays the grass clippings in a row on top of the grass. (not good)

I do not have a side discharge mower, and want a SD walker.

[DLAWNS]

Bill & MasterNate: How much grass do you collect in the spring?

I honestly envy the cleanness (is that a word???) of the bagging front mount mowers. Almost everyone here uses Walkers (because that's what the only dealer in the valley sells)... but MAN!!! All those clippings!!! All that extra time addressing the clippings!! All that extra space needed to hold the clippings!! All that extra gas consumed hauling the clippings!! All that stink when the clippings start to decompose!! :cry::cry::cry:

Ah well, to each their own... I'll but y'all are happier with YOUR mowers than I am with mine. :hammerhead:

In the spring I take about 1 ton of grass a week which is 3/4 of my truck. They do stink sometimes but as long as you dump the clippings regularly it's not too bad. I feel in most cases it actually saves me time. So many of my lawns are so wet, tall, or thick that I was double or triple cutting and they still were a mess. Don't get me wrong. I probably only bag about half my lawns. I side discharge with the Toro on thinner lawns or when the others are a little more manageable in the summer months. I can't be happier with the Navigator. Just so everyone knows that pile of clippings in the pkicture is not average. That is my brother in laws huge tall thick yard that wasn't cut in two weeks.

[DLAWNS]

Here are some links to some pics of my setup. They're not great but it's all I could find right now.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=252931&highlight=Depierro+Lawns+fall

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=261671&highlight=Depierro+Lawns+picture+thread

[STIHL GUY]

nice stripes. i would hate bagging all of my accounts but i bet it sure cuts down on blowing and it sure looks great

[flatlander42]

With the ammount the grass grows here, I can not get away without bagging. People feel like if they are gonna pay you, you are gonna bag. That is just how it is here, and there is no getting away with it unless it is a large commercial lot, or a cheap account that they just need knocked down.

[P.Services]

good god i hope you mow for charity cuz i wouldnt pay for that kind of shat work!!!

[flatlander42]

good god i hope you mow for charity cuz i wouldnt pay for that kind of shat work!!!


Just so happens they are all Non-Profit....so you are right!

[P.Services]

well good you little smart azz

[Lawn Freak]

Looks good but I'm not a big fan of all the wheel marks.

[DLAWNS]

good god i hope you mow for charity cuz i wouldnt pay for that kind of shat work!!!

well good you little smart azz

I really hope that you are kidding.

[nosparkplugs]

I know my stripe's are not perfect with our Walker MT so I don't post them, some of those lawns look great, but it surly looks like you guys need to keep a straight line better. Thats what you get for posting your work for all Crazy Lawnsite Members to critique. The Navigators can hang with the Walkers for sure if thats what your trying to say with this thread. Stay off the sauce at work or learn to track straight, keep up the good work guys, still nice job's, just not "perfect".

[DLAWNS]

Looks good but I'm not a big fan of all the wheel marks.

Thanks man. The third wheel is an acquired taste. I think masternate would agree! lol

[P.Services]

I really hope that you are kidding.

no im dead serious. do you really think those look good?

[P.Services]

i just looked through them again and............... nope all look like shat! if i ever left a law like that i sure as all heck wouldn't take a picture of it. tell me what one you think looks the best nad i will tell you whats wrong with it

[DLAWNS]

I know my stripe's are not perfect with our Walker MT so I don't post them, some of those lawns look great, but it surly looks like you guys need to keep a straight line better. Thats what you get for posting your "best" work. The Navigators can hang with the Walkers for sure if thats what your trying to say with this thread. Stay off the sauce or learn to track straight or don't post pics of this.

Dude do you run a Navigator? Unless you have than please don't talk smack. Besides that did anyone say it was anyone's "best" work? If you don't have a compliment or constructive criticism than why post? Does it make some of you dudes feel better about yourselves to slam people.

[P.Services]

ok ok your right im being a azz and i shouldn't be. let me offer some help, the lines that go light dark light dark light light light means you made three passes in the same direction so just dont do that it looks bad. keep your arm muscles very tense and tight so the lines arnt so shaky. dont look ahead of you, lay one straight stripe and just keep your eye on the edge of the deck. why the lines with a curve? keep them straight.

[DLAWNS]

i just looked through them again and............... nope all look like shat! if i ever left a law like that i sure as all heck wouldn't take a picture of it. tell me what one you think looks the best nad i will tell you whats wrong with it

Dude I really don't need some punk kid telling me I'm not good. I have very happy customers. I do quality work and get people that switch from other companies all the time after they see my work without me even saying a word. I have never once had a complaint about my stripes. I'm not trying to say that I'm Eric Elm or anything but I think it looks good. Why don't you keep working for your dad's company and keep acting like you built it from the ground up like you always do.

[DLAWNS]

ok ok your right im being a azz and i shouldn't be. let me offer some help, the lines that go light dark light dark light light light means you made three passes in the same direction so just dont do that it looks bad. keep your arm muscles very tense and tight so the lines arnt so shaky. dont look ahead of you, lay one straight stripe and just keep your eye on the edge of the deck. why the lines with a curve? keep them straight.

Maybe you aren't familiar with cutting in circles. I do it at certain houses and it gets rave reviews. Also I like the curved stripes as a change up from the same old straight lines and again the customers love it. These are very common things in my area and a lot of the really notorious companies in my area do them as well so I'm not the only one. I appreciate your attempt at advice but you can keep it.

[P.Services]

wow wow wow calm down i was really trying to be nice and offer some help. its the weekend... ive been out on a boat since 9:00...... get what im saying. my dad and i havnt talked in over five years so he hasnt helped at all. he makes life on a daily bases as hard as you can posibly imagine. if you want some examples let me know. this is my biz i owe a little on the 332 thanks to grama but the resy was me. if i knew how to upload pics from a blackberry i would just let my pics do the talkin.

[nosparkplugs]

Navigator those are red Walker clones:) Come on those are not straight, and it is tough to get a perfect straight pass on a Navigator or Walker their Squirrely;) on a flat yard.

Chill out I said they look good (constructive), and if your Customers are happy that's all that matters. This is a Public forum, did you expect privacy.

Dude do you run a Navigator? Unless you have than please don't talk smack. Besides that did anyone say it was anyone's "best" work? If you don't have a compliment or constructive criticism than why post? Does it make some of you dudes feel better about yourselves to slam people.

[DLAWNS]

Navigator those are red Walker clones:) Come on those are not straight, and it is tough to get a perfect straight pass on a Navigator or Walker their Squirrely;) on a flat yard.

Chill out I said they look good (constructive), and if your Customers are happy that's all that matters. This is a Public forum, did you expect privacy.

Lol yeah you said constructive things after you edited your post. :nono:

[DLAWNS]

wow wow wow calm down i was really trying to be nice and offer some help. its the weekend... ive been out on a boat since 9:00...... get what im saying. my dad and i havnt talked in over five years so he hasnt helped at all. he makes life on a daily bases as hard as you can posibly imagine. if you want some examples let me know. this is my biz i owe a little on the 332 thanks to grama but the resy was me. if i knew how to upload pics from a blackberry i would just let my pics do the talkin.

All I'm sayin' is that ya don't have to come on here trashing people. I like the way I do things as do my customers. I'm done trying to explain myself to you.

[P.Services]

well your stripes look as straight as a line on a etchasketch drawn by a crackhead with ceribalpalsey.


if you can sound out my spelling thats as funny as heck.

[DLAWNS]

well your stripes look as straight as a line on a etchasketch drawn by a crackhead with ceribalpalsey.


if you can sound out my spelling thats as funny as heck.

Real nice man. Well I have one more person on this site that I have absolutely no respect for. Way to go...you made the list!Thumbs Up

[P.Services]

how long is this "list" we are talkin about? if im the second in line i will feel good. if im just one of many i wont feel special. bill bill bill im just given you a hard time because its easy to see it was getting to you. they look good but i was really just trying to help you make them look better.

[DLAWNS]

how long is this "list" we are talkin about? if im the second in line i will feel good. if im just one of many i wont feel special. bill bill bill im just given you a hard time because its easy to see it was getting to you. they look good but i was really just trying to help you make them look better.

Yeah it worked...you pi**ed off an Italian:itflag: (not hard to do.) If you don't mind some advice from me...try having some tact when you give advice. I love learning new things and getting advice but not the way you go about it.

[DLAWNS]

By the way...the list is about ten people long and your about number 5. You wanna be higher?

[P.Services]

your right. i can count on two fingers the number of people ive said sorry to. you are the third. im sorry i was such a little ass.

i will post my pics some day when i learn how and you can tell me they look like shat.

[P.Services]

why yes i would like to be the number one all time jackazz

[DLAWNS]

your right. i can count on two fingers the number of people ive said sorry to. you are the third. im sorry i was such a little ass.

i will post my pics some day when i learn how and you can tell me they look like shat.

Sounds good to me. Talk to ya later.

[DLAWNS]

why yes i would like to be the number one all time jackazz

Sorry...you'll never get the number one spot. That belongs to the most obnoxious guy on here. I'm not going to say his name but he will always be #1 to me. Ha Ha:laugh:

[P.Services]

we need a list that people can vote on for the most "pain in the ass member" all in good taste of coarse.

[DLAWNS]

yeah that would be an interesting list.

[browningv308]

Don't mean to change the subject but I have been looking at getting a navigator how do these things handle hills sideways and straight up and down are they top heavy as far as the stripes go they leave stripes like a walk behind with a single wheel velky but the cut quality makes up for the 3rd line not a bad trade off

[DLAWNS]

Don't mean to change the subject but I have been looking at getting a navigator how do these things handle hills sideways and straight up and down are they top heavy as far as the stripes go they leave stripes like a walk behind with a single wheel velky but the cut quality makes up for the 3rd line not a bad trade off

I'm not gonna lie to ya. I love my Navigator but I am not overly impressed at the way it holds hills sideways. I feel it's a bit better going up and down but overall not that great on hills. You're definitely right about the cut quality. They leave such an awesome cut. Even with the hill issue (for me) I highly recommend an Exmark Navigator.

[flatlander42]

your right. i can count on two fingers the number of people ive said sorry to. you are the third. im sorry i was such a little ass.

i will post my pics some day when i learn how and you can tell me they look like shat.


Don't post them here, unless you have a navigator. YOU can start your own thread.

*nosparkplugs*
As far as my lines not being straight, :dizzy:
YOU do not know the lawn, or how rough it gets on the right side by a ditch....so go pound sand.:nono:
And if you are looking for perfect stripes, go drive around and look at your own lawns you cut...they must be perfect!

<EDIT> you must be refering to Green Skapes....if so I understand!
(by the way i love your bad boy)

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

For anyone with an eye to see (and knows what they're doing), excepting the purposeful arcs made in a few, those squiggles you think you see are merely terrain changes under the grass. The lines are straight - the camera just makes it look otherwise.

[DLAWNS]

For anyone with an eye to see (and knows what they're doing), excepting the purposeful arcs made in a few, those squiggles you think you see are merely terrain changes under the grass. The lines are straight - the camera just makes it look otherwise.

Thank you for that, Whoop!

[flatlander42]

The Third tire mark...One way I see it is that there is less pressure on each tire track. those with two tire tracks, there may be more of a chance to Smash the soil if it is soggy? ya these mowers are heavy, but hell we have 5 tires...just throwin that out there.

One more thing, If people have something to say about pics posted, feel free to copy and paste, then edit it with obvious red lines/marks to show what it soooooooooo bad that you can't live with without b!tch!n.

That way we can better understand what you are talking about.

*well you can do it with my pics anyways*

[flatlander42]

and I would like to see pics of the work other navigators do, I know there has to be more out there! they just don't wanna be beat to death....

[flatlander42]

This is an old Rural Cemetery that I will not explain the un'matched lines, you should be able to guess.


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk198/masternate42/100_2127.jpg

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

Look, peeps, push come to shove, 99.5% of homeowners don't give a crap about stripes. :dizzy: Stripes are what WE do to keep ourselves occupied and happy. :dancing: We can be as critical as we want, but your typical homeowner won't generally recognize the differences between your best performance on the mower and your worst...

So tearing each other apart is kind of a waste of time. Complaining about mower patterns and mannerisms is a waste of time.

Are we really so juvenile that we're willing to consume our spare hours berating others' work/equipment/performance in a weak attempt to prop ourselves up?

Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a part of this industry...

[TXNSLighting]

Wow Picasso! Whats wrong with you?! :laugh: NSP...Jeez. It all looks very good!

[flatlander42]

And yet I still enjoy posting a few pics, and looking at other peoples pics!




Look, peeps, push come to shove, 99.5% of homeowners don't give a crap about stripes. :dizzy: Stripes are what WE do to keep ourselves occupied and happy. :dancing: We can be as critical as we want, but your typical homeowner won't generally recognize the differences between your best performance on the mower and your worst...

So tearing each other apart is kind of a waste of time. Complaining about mower patterns and mannerisms is a waste of time.

Are we really so juvenile that we're willing to consume our spare hours berating others' work/equipment/performance in a weak attempt to prop ourselves up?

Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a part of this industry...

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

And yet I still enjoy posting a few pics, and looking at other peoples pics!

I do, too. I love it. I just don't get all the hate being slung around.

[bishoplandscape]

wow wow wow calm down i was really trying to be nice and offer some help. its the weekend... ive been out on a boat since 9:00...... get what im saying. my dad and i havnt talked in over five years so he hasnt helped at all. he makes life on a daily bases as hard as you can posibly imagine. if you want some examples let me know. this is my biz i owe a little on the 332 thanks to grama but the resy was me. if i knew how to upload pics from a blackberry i would just let my pics do the talkin.



Not everyone on here doesn't know about you. Funny how you act on here.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[P.Services]

bishop that didnt make any sence. what do you "know" about me? lets hear it?

funny how i act, the stripes look like crap and i said it. i felt bad after so i said sorry i shoulda been nicer when i said they looked bad.

but really lets hear what you have to say.

[P.Services]

dont keep me waiting im really looking forward to what you have to say.

[W.L.M.]

Well done on all the rude comments, personally I kinda like the looks of the third wheel mark on certain types of grass but on others it ruins the cut. At any rate everything looks pretty good to me. And it is better you guys than me bagging all that grass.

[nosparkplugs]

Holy Shat!!! are you collecting grass or opening the hopper door & letting it fly, with that cemetery??.



This is an old Rural Cemetery that I will not explain the un'matched lines, you should be able to guess.


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk198/masternate42/100_2127.jpg

[DLAWNS]

bishop that didnt make any sence. what do you "know" about me? lets hear it?

funny how i act, the stripes look like crap and i said it. i felt bad after so i said sorry i shoulda been nicer when i said they looked bad.

but really lets hear what you have to say.

By the way Picasso, as much as you pis*ed me off yesterday...I wanted to apologize to you saying that you work for your dad and that you didn't build your business. I had you confused with someone else.

[flatlander42]

*nosparkplugs*

I just tie the back of my hopper open and let er fly! I do it that way on 3 other places I mow also...and usually unless you see me do it, you'd have a hard time guessing!
That is one reason I Need/Want a Walker B...not the super b, the other one!

It works...."ok"....but when it is thick it sure takes longer than if I could just shoot er out the side.

[CrystalCreek]

I come back from a long weekend and all this fighting???? What happened guys??? Is it time for a group hug? But seriously, everyones work looks good. I guess the navigator can keep up with the walkers. I wouldnt be able to tell the difference if no one told me. It is trully amazing how much grass these things collect. Keep up the good work everyone. I at least think it looks good.

[DLAWNS]

I come back from a long weekend and all this fighting???? What happened guys??? Is it time for a group hug? But seriously, everyones work looks good. I guess the navigator can keep up with the walkers. I wouldnt be able to tell the difference if no one told me. It is trully amazing how much grass these things collect. Keep up the good work everyone. I at least think it looks good.

As you know I appreciate the compliments. Thanks Jared. By the way, hows the new job going?

[CrystalCreek]

As you know I appreciate the compliments. Thanks Jared. By the way, hows the new job going?

Just started today and I am tired as hell. At least I didnt blow myself up today:drinkup: I was thinking about posting some pics of last week, but now I am afraid to do so. I may not be up to the standards of some of these guys.

[flatlander42]

just do it anyways!

*in a walker thread of course* j/k :laugh:

[DLAWNS]

Just started today and I am tired as hell. At least I didnt blow myself up today:drinkup: I was thinking about posting some pics of last week, but now I am afraid to do so. I may not be up to the standards of some of these guys.

Be careful up there man! Post your pics man...you can even post your Walker pics in our Navigator thread. :laugh: The naysayers can s*ck it!

[greenstar lawn]

Those navigator lay a nice stripe. Good work guys.

[Chestnut Oaks Prez]

Good Lord! I've made straighter stripes with my Walker after drinkin a 12pk.:drinkup::usflag:

[flatlander42]

that may help! or at least they will be those wavy stripes everybody is trying!

[DLAWNS]

Those navigator lay a nice stripe. Good work guys.

Thanks, dude!

Good Lord! I've made straighter stripes with my Walker after drinkin a 12pk.:drinkup::usflag:

That's a DUI my friend! lol:drinkup: You should demo a Navigator you'll trade all those pretty Walkers for Navigators. Red machines are the way to go. Ha Ha.:weightlifter:

[Chestnut Oaks Prez]

Thanks, dude!



That's a DUI my friend! lol:drinkup: You should demo a Navigator you'll trade all those pretty Walkers for Navigators. Red machines are the way to go. Ha Ha.:weightlifter:

Demoed one last year by request of my dealer. If Walker ever folds I would have a Nav. Too big and bulky, controls bassacwards, not a very good copycat in my opinion. You know I was just kiddin in last post. Felt a little bit like Pic ASS O when I post that one.:laugh:

[flatlander42]

How are the controles bass/ackwards? The control panel may be different, but each walker I've driven has been very similar. and as far as being bulky...yup, somewhat...definately not as tight as some of the smalled walkers.

and don't hold your breath on walker foldin! They have it down!

[DLAWNS]

Demoed one last year by request of my dealer. If Walker ever folds I would have a Nav. Too big and bulky, controls bassacwards, not a very good copycat in my opinion. You know I was just kiddin in last post. Felt a little bit like Pic ASS O when I post that one.:laugh:

I know...I know...I was just messing with you! I ran Walkers for a few years with a company I worked at and they are amazing mowers. My first choice was a Walker but I had to finance it and the dealer that I went to was a pain in the a*s, so I went to another one and they gave me a great deal. I hated it at first and I'm still getting used to it, but for the most part I love it. Just a little background on why I chose the Navigator...not that you asked, but just figured that I'd share.

[Chestnut Oaks Prez]

How are the controles bass/ackwards? The control panel may be different, but each walker I've driven has been very similar. and as far as being bulky...yup, somewhat...definately not as tight as some of the smalled walkers.

and don't hold your breath on walker foldin! They have it down!

mainly the blade engager is on the right side of the Walker

[DLAWNS]

How are the controles bass/ackwards? The control panel may be different, but each walker I've driven has been very similar. and as far as being bulky...yup, somewhat...definately not as tight as some of the smalled walkers.

and don't hold your breath on walker foldin! They have it down!

Yeah Walker isn't going anywhere, lol!

[DLAWNS]

mainly the blade engager is on the right side of the Walker

I still reach for it on the right sometimes, but I'm getting comfortable with it now.

[XLS]

picasso is right every pic has its suck spot if you guys would try just for a moment they would have looked great and a walker nor navigator is squirly if the opperator has the skill to opperate one

[P.Services]

picasso is right every pic has its suck spot if you guys would try just for a moment they would have looked great and a walker nor navigator is squirly if the opperator has the skill to opperate one

thank you my new best buddy!!!! that is one hellof a first post!!!!!!!

[DLAWNS]

picasso is right every pic has its suck spot if you guys would try just for a moment they would have looked great and a walker nor navigator is squirly if the opperator has the skill to opperate one

go find a new forum

[TXNSLighting]

picasso is right every pic has its suck spot if you guys would try just for a moment they would have looked great and a walker nor navigator is squirly if the opperator has the skill to opperate one

wow really?? Thats your first post? ass...good job on the punctuation.

[P.Services]

go find a new forum

:laugh::laugh: hey man you wana fight now i have some back up!!!

[TXNSLighting]

youre funny pic ASS O. Now get some pics of your new truck up here!!

[P.Services]

wow really?? Thats your first post? ass...good job on the punctuation.

maybe you could offer him some help with a quick posting lesson on punctuation and what not. you should try to offer help before you just go off and be an ass to the new guy.

[DLAWNS]

:laugh::laugh: hey man you wana fight now i have some back up!!!

another punk that can't keep his mouth shut. You can't let crap die can you?

[TXNSLighting]

Wheres the fun in that??!!! Hey his first post was crappily negative! I aint helpin! But some periods would be in order there!

[P.Services]

well i like his attitude he brings to the site. i find it positive and uplifting.

[DLAWNS]

Wheres the fun in that??!!! Hey his first post was crappily negative! I aint helpin! But some periods would be in order there!

Ryan---You're the man!:clapping:

[TXNSLighting]

well i like his attitude he brings to the site. i find it positive and uplifting.

you're a hoot.

[XLS]

guys i am not being mean just saying it how i see it.... sucks!


i always wanted to be a punk i love you too . ?Now lie to me and smile!

[XLS]

my daughter is 7 and can stripe as good as the ones here

[P.Services]

bill we need to talk about the company image you portray to your current and future clients alike by wearing a sleeveless shirt like a country bumkin. the picasso crew has shirts tucked in with a belt on every day.

[XLS]

i take it because this is my 4th post i must not know what i am doing ......right i will keep my walkers anyday

[TXNSLighting]

No its because you cant form a sentence, or use punctuation. You're also being a ass when you really don't need to be. You're not going to make it long on this site with that attitude.

[TXNSLighting]

Bill! Are you wearing sleeveless shirts??

[DLAWNS]

my daughter is 7 and can stripe as good as the ones here

Maybe ya read like you type...we don't need anymore people like you on this site. There are a couple other lawn forums to join where it's acceptable to be an a*s! Find one!

[DLAWNS]

I wear company t-shirts (not sleeveless) Where the hell do you get your info?

[TXNSLighting]

I figured pic was making it up! How dare him!

[TXNSLighting]

wow, i just noticed i have 5100 something posts on here. Thats way to much...

[XLS]

Like i said i wasnt being an arse just saying it how i see it. I read and write just fine, you dont need to be an english major to be here . If your going to show pictures of stripes know how to do it is all .

[DLAWNS]

I figured pic was making it up! How dare him!

If he has 1/10 of the attitude that he has on here than he's not very professional.

[DLAWNS]

Like i said i wasnt being an arse just saying it how i see it. I read and write just fine, you dont need to be an english major to be here . If your going to show pictures of stripes know how to do it is all .

I'm done talking to you because you're worthless. I'll just talk to my boy Ryan!

[TXNSLighting]

I see two different picasso's. the one you see here ( very rare):laugh: Then the nice helpful one. O well its all the internet so who knows.

[TXNSLighting]

Man im goin to bed! Night bud!

[DLAWNS]

bill we need to talk about the company image you portray to your current and future clients alike by wearing a sleeveless shirt like a country bumkin. the picasso crew has shirts tucked in with a belt on every day.

I found the picture that you're getting your info from and that is one of my employees and he rolled his sleeves up for part of the day. My guys are very professional and in uniform all the time. They are allowed to roll their sleeves up if they are hot during the day.

[DLAWNS]

Man im goin to bed! Night bud!

I hear ya! Talk to ya soon.

[P.Services]

hey guys just so you know im only joking around, i dont really mean anything. im just giving you a hard time about the sleeves and a professional image. i figured me and bill had our little fight now we are are cool and i can just jerk your chain cuz i know how to. now this other xls guy just sounds like hes being a ass for real.............im being a ass but only to be funny and make you laugh.

my original post about how bad the stripes looked was just a slip up cuz the beer was talkin smack tryin to start a fight.

[DLAWNS]

hey guys just so you know im only joking around, i dont really mean anything. im just giving you a hard time about the sleeves and a professional image. i figured me and bill had our little fight now we are are cool and i can just jerk your chain cuz i know how to. now this other xls guy just sounds like hes being a ass for real.............im being a ass but only to be funny and make you laugh.

my original post about how bad the stripes looked was just a slip up cuz the beer was talkin smack tryin to start a fight.

You are really hard to figure out. Sorry for getting jumpy. I'm going to bed, dude!

[P.Services]

you said that almost an hour ago. honesty is an important part in running a successful business.

[DLAWNS]

Yeah I'm a liar. :laugh: Peace!

[flatlander42]

how do ya go about requesting a MOD to clean this crap up.....and lets keep it on topic boys....jeeeez....go join Pirate4x4 if you wana be a d!ck.....


and I was all happy about a navigator thread....and then all of the fxxkups come in here for what,? I can take neg. comments, but comeon, you have no idea how rough or the terrain is. And if you think that we can just go over it and keep it lazer straight, you are crazy. I am not mowing a putting green, crap any of my lawns are Not flat, or even close to comfy to Bump like hell across....

either way, I would still like this crap cleaned up....or maybe open another thread and have mods make it so there is no text, just pics! that would be great for the Pics forum.

[CrystalCreek]

I wanted to post tips last night, but my body is SOOOOO tired from climbing poles all day.:cry: Here are a few things I have learned to make my strips better. Note that I am using a Walker, but it my appliy to the Navigator as well.

Tire Pressure. I found that lower tire pressure is a BIG help. My walker tells me to use 24 PSI in the drive wheels. I have been running 18 for years with great results. The front caster wheels also require 12 PSI, I am running 8. The tail wheels are the biggest help. My Walker has dual tail wheels.(Think like a dually pick up truck) They are said to be inflated to 22 PSI. I am running them at 15. These lower tire pressue's make the entire machein roll over bumps and roots much easier. A softer tire will conform to an obstical rather then resist it. One thing to keep in mind, softer tires will roll off the bead a little easier, so be careful on curbs and whatnot. Also, lowering the tires pressure, will bring the machien lower to the ground. I have measured a 1/4" difference. I have rasied the deck back up to proper levels with a washer under the deck lifting pins.

Hydraulics. For straight strips, do not run the machien at full ground speed. I leave the ground speed a hair lower then the top end. For some reason the machien seems a lot less squirrly this way, without really effecting the cutting speed. Also, I fine adjust my hydraulics every other month on my walker. I get on the smooth pavement and see which way the machien pulls, and adjust accordingly.

Final tip for tonight. Use only one hand. I use my left hand fingers to keep the handles in sink with each other. I use to do the two hand thing, but my strips are much better with only one hand. Plus I can use the free hand to pick my nose or scratch my ears:laugh::laugh::laugh: Just kidding.

I dont know how different the Navigator is from the Walker, but hopefully you can use some of these tips to help out.

But I still think the strips look good. It is hard to make perfect strips on un-perfect ground:cry:

[DLAWNS]

I wanted to post tips last night, but my body is SOOOOO tired from climbing poles all day.:cry: Here are a few things I have learned to make my strips better. Note that I am using a Walker, but it my appliy to the Navigator as well.

Tire Pressure. I found that lower tire pressure is a BIG help. My walker tells me to use 24 PSI in the drive wheels. I have been running 18 for years with great results. The front caster wheels also require 12 PSI, I am running 8. The tail wheels are the biggest help. My Walker has dual tail wheels.(Think like a dually pick up truck) They are said to be inflated to 22 PSI. I am running them at 15. These lower tire pressue's make the entire machein roll over bumps and roots much easier. A softer tire will conform to an obstical rather then resist it. One thing to keep in mind, softer tires will roll off the bead a little easier, so be careful on curbs and whatnot. Also, lowering the tires pressure, will bring the machien lower to the ground. I have measured a 1/4" difference. I have rasied the deck back up to proper levels with a washer under the deck lifting pins.

Hydraulics. For straight strips, do not run the machien at full ground speed. I leave the ground speed a hair lower then the top end. For some reason the machien seems a lot less squirrly this way, without really effecting the cutting speed. Also, I fine adjust my hydraulics every other month on my walker. I get on the smooth pavement and see which way the machien pulls, and adjust accordingly.

Final tip for tonight. Use only one hand. I use my left hand fingers to keep the handles in sink with each other. I use to do the two hand thing, but my strips are much better with only one hand. Plus I can use the free hand to pick my nose or scratch my ears:laugh::laugh::laugh: Just kidding.

I dont know how different the Navigator is from the Walker, but hopefully you can use some of these tips to help out.

But I still think the strips look good. It is hard to make perfect strips on un-perfect ground:cry:

This is the first productive post in this thread besides a few other compliments. Let's all give Jared a hand! :clapping: I appreciate the advice. I do use the one hand technique, but I have to try to take some air out of the tires. I never thought of that. The Navigator and Walker are just about the same but I have used both and the Navigator is so much jumpier. That and putting it on hills are the only things that I don't like about it.

[flatlander42]

well....My navigator only has air in the two drive tires! and they are allready at 8psi.!
thanks for bein positive!
I do wish we had the option for the dually tail wheels....might have to see if some of a walker would fit.