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WGLandscapeMaintenance
05-25-2009, 06:53 PM
I already tried searching and it didn't find any about this subject.

Which truck would be better for landscape maintenance?
Chevy/GMC CC Standard Box 2500 HD Duramax
Chevy/GMC CC Standard Box 3500 Duramax
Chevy/GMC CC 3500 Duramax Dump Truck

Ford F250 CC Standard/Long Box PSD
Ford F350 CC Standard/Long Box PSD
Ford F350 CC Dump Truck PSD

lawn king
05-25-2009, 09:14 PM
Have you thought about cabovers? They are great work trucks. You can get into a diesel cabover for the same money as the GM/ford dumps, with 3 times the payload!

WGLandscapeMaintenance
05-25-2009, 10:27 PM
who makes them?

whoopassonthebluegrass
05-25-2009, 10:36 PM
I know when I was researching my Ford Super Duty (1999, mind you), I learned that the 3/4 and 1 ton are absolutely identical except for the rear leaf springs...

Maybe my model and year were an anomaly, but perhaps that's the standard...

WGLandscapeMaintenance
05-25-2009, 10:54 PM
I know when I was researching my Ford Super Duty (1999, mind you), I learned that the 3/4 and 1 ton are absolutely identical except for the rear leaf springs...

Maybe my model and year were an anomaly, but perhaps that's the standard...

And price, and there seems to be less 1 tons on the market

whoopassonthebluegrass
05-25-2009, 11:07 PM
I bought a 99 F350, 2WD, Crew Cab Long Bed with 58k on it for $5k in February. Amazing.

Duffster
05-25-2009, 11:12 PM
I learned that the 3/4 and 1 ton are absolutely identical except for the rear leaf springs...

And the GVWR:)

lyube
05-26-2009, 10:47 PM
I bought a 99 F350, 2WD, Crew Cab Long Bed with 58k on it for $5k in February. Amazing.

I'm jealous.

I need a 3/4 or 1 ton truck to tow around a ferret and as a daily driver. To hell with gas prices, I'm going all out :laugh:

lawn king
05-27-2009, 07:28 AM
who makes them?
isuzu,ford,ud,mitsu,international.

MileHigh
05-28-2009, 02:19 AM
I know when I was researching my Ford Super Duty (1999, mind you), I learned that the 3/4 and 1 ton are absolutely identical except for the rear leaf springs...

Maybe my model and year were an anomaly, but perhaps that's the standard...

That is correct. Been that way from at least 1999 to present.

But on the F350 Dual rear wheelers..not only do they have larger rear spring load, but also have larger front brakes than 250's.

When you step up to the 450 is where the real changes start happening.

And the GVWR:)

Well if the rear spring have a higher load rating...obviously the GVWR would go up.:hammerhead:

ProTouch Groundscapes
05-29-2009, 12:04 AM
its not all in the rear, fgawr goes up as well.

J&R Landscaping
05-31-2009, 07:33 PM
its not all in the rear, fgawr goes up as well.


Not all the time.

My 06 f250 reg cab 4x4 psd has a 6000 lb Front axle rating.

A new 08 f350 ext cab 4x4 psd had the same 6000 rating. Though rear axle and gvw was higher. Both were plow prep equipped.

MileHigh
06-02-2009, 06:25 PM
its not all in the rear, fgawr goes up as well.

Wrong.

An F350 has the same ratings as an f250 does.

F250 go anywhere from 4800 - 6000 from the factory...and you can get 7000 springs for them if you want.

F350 go anywhere from 5200 - 6000, and you also can get 7000 springs for them as well.

The biggest and pretty much only differences are the brakes you get with DRW 350's.

The front ends on 450's...go to a 10 wheel lug nut system...but the fgawr does not change.

So despite what everyone says the front end of a f250 can hold a plow just a good as a 350 or even a 450....the rear end is where things will start to lack in load capacity...that's where having the bigger 350 or 450 will really shine....but then again you can mod the rear end of the 250 easily to be just as beefy as any SRW 350.

ProTouch Groundscapes
06-02-2009, 10:24 PM
Wrong.

An F350 has the same ratings as an f250 does.

F250 go anywhere from 4800 - 6000 from the factory...and you can get 7000 springs for them if you want.

F350 go anywhere from 5200 - 6000, and you also can get 7000 springs for them as well.

The biggest and pretty much only differences are the brakes you get with DRW 350's.

The front ends on 450's...go to a 10 wheel lug nut system...but the fgawr does not change.

Not all the time.

My 06 f250 reg cab 4x4 psd has a 6000 lb Front axle rating.

A new 08 f350 ext cab 4x4 psd had the same 6000 rating. Though rear axle and gvw was higher. Both were plow prep equipped.

wasnt aware that 250's had the 6K option. before we got our 09 350 crew cab long bed, i was looking at a 250 crew cab long bed that had a 5400lb axle and couldnt install a boss v on it. thats why we got the 350 b/c it came with the 6K axle, and it was actually the same price and i get more payload as well.

Duffster
06-03-2009, 12:20 AM
The FAWR on my 350 is less than my 250:rolleyes:

unkownfl
06-05-2009, 12:57 AM
depends on if it is a 4x2 or 4x4

MileHigh
06-05-2009, 01:23 AM
wasnt aware that 250's had the 6K option. before we got our 09 350 crew cab long bed, i was looking at a 250 crew cab long bed that had a 5400lb axle and couldnt install a boss v on it. thats why we got the 350 b/c it came with the 6K axle, and it was actually the same price and i get more payload as well.

My neighbors 06 f250 has the 6k front springs from the factory...you can get 7k aftermarkets for them as well.

That 250 could have easily handled that V-plow...8.2 or 9.2 either one...

No prob.

Jeff Lynden from P-sites F250 has a 4800 front spring load, and he's got the sno-way mega-blade slapped on it....that thing prob over 1k in weight.

MileHigh
06-05-2009, 01:24 AM
depends on if it is a 4x2 or 4x4

Havent heard of that...might be true though.

I know diesel's have the higher springs in them...snowplow prep package trucks have the 6k springs in them stock.

Duffster
06-05-2009, 01:33 AM
I know diesel's have the higher springs in them....

What spring set do the diesels have?

MileHigh
06-05-2009, 01:57 AM
What spring set do the diesels have?

5200 and up.

I know a lot of the gassers have the 4800 springs.

WGLandscape
06-06-2009, 11:17 AM
I'm the one who created this forum, I had lost my password, but thanks for the advice, I think I'm gonna go for an '08 F350 CC PSD long non dump box or F250 CC PSD long non dump box, I like the 6.4, it's got a lot of potential. And now that GM is Govt Motors, I'm never buying a vehicle from them again.

AGM Inc.
07-15-2009, 05:26 PM
I know when I was researching my Ford Super Duty (1999, mind you), I learned that the 3/4 and 1 ton are absolutely identical except for the rear leaf springs...

Maybe my model and year were an anomaly, but perhaps that's the standard...

ya the 3/4 ton is the same as 1ton besides the leaf springs and i would just buy the chevy dmax 3/4 ton

lyube
07-15-2009, 06:26 PM
I'm the one who created this forum, I had lost my password, but thanks for the advice, I think I'm gonna go for an '08 F350 CC PSD long non dump box or F250 CC PSD long non dump box, I like the 6.4, it's got a lot of potential. And now that GM is Govt Motors, I'm never buying a vehicle from them again.

Good call.

I am never going to own a GM vehicle, ever.

ProTouch Groundscapes
07-16-2009, 12:30 PM
the dealer might not install the plow if it exceeds your front rating. i have an awesome dealer and they said they wouldnt do it on the 08 250 with 5400lb axle i was looking at. so i found a 09 350 with 6K axle for the same price.

keep in mind this is a crew cab, long bed diesel truck, so there is alot of weight up front. i need to put almost 1500-2K pounds in the bed to get any decent traction back there.

Hawg City Lawns
07-20-2009, 11:07 PM
I bought a 99 F350, 2WD, Crew Cab Long Bed with 58k on it for $5k in February. Amazing.

gas or diesel?

whoopassonthebluegrass
07-21-2009, 12:14 AM
gas or diesel?

It has the 5.4L in it.

Hawg City Lawns
07-21-2009, 12:32 AM
It has the 5.4L in it.

not to shabby wish i could find a steal like that

johnnybravo8802
07-21-2009, 07:09 PM
I've never understood why someone would buy a 3/4 over a 1 ton, even when the 1 ton may be actually the same price or cheaper. The thing is, 9 out of 10 trucks are 3/4!!!!:confused::confused:

supercuts
07-21-2009, 07:52 PM
when i bought my 08 f350 i specifically wanted the 350 simply for the sticker on the door. i wanted to know that if i get stopped towing something i have that extra few thousand pounds. also, when buying a plow, some wouldnt put them on certain cab configurations due to weight. look into it first, i was shocked to hear them ask what cab and weight and said "maybe" to installing a plow