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NHLawns
04-03-2002, 12:22 PM
I was wondering if a Chevy 1500 with a 4.7 liter v8 has enough
power to comfortably pull a 6 by 12 trailer with equipment, or would a Dodge 1500 4.7 liter v-8 have any more guts in it.

Thanks for you input

Jim

Soupy
04-03-2002, 12:26 PM
You shouldn't have any problems. I tow a 6x12 with a Walk behind and a Dixie chopper with a 6 cyl Dodge Ram. Sometimes I wish I had a bigger engine so I could upgrade trailers but I get good Gas Milege.

Soupy

Scraper
04-03-2002, 12:26 PM
Either will work fine.

wxmn6
04-03-2002, 03:21 PM
They should pull 6 by 12 trailer without a problem. I have a Toyota 4 cylinders that pulls my 6 1/2' by 12' trailer. It may be a little slow over the hills but on a nice flat road it pulls pretty good. Some people pulls their trailer with their Toyotas and Chevy S-10s.

jaybird24
04-03-2002, 03:30 PM
No problem- For 5 years I pulled a 6x12 with 2 mowers with an S-10 4.3L I got 250,000 miles out of that thing. My dad uses it now and not a single thing wrong with it.

Soupy
04-03-2002, 09:27 PM
My 6cyl Dodge ram has 360,000 miles on it now, and besides putting a used rear end in it. nothing else has failed me yet (knock on wood). The engine has not been touched unless the guy that had it before me (4 years ago) put parts on it.

Soupy

GAM321
04-03-2002, 09:39 PM
The Dodge transmission will probably go out. I owned one once for 3 years or 3 transmissions.

Soupy
04-03-2002, 09:49 PM
Mine is a 5 speed, which reminds me, I had to put a new cluth on it too. about the same time the rear end went out. The used Rear End only had 16,000 miles so it should last awhile and I put a heavy duty clutch on it. This is a 96 Dodge and I have a feeling this will be the year it gets a new engine. I just have that feeling (the wood I knocked on felt a little soft :)).

Sorry about getting off topic, But I'm hopeing I'm convencing you to buy the Ram :) normally I would be a ford man, but I couldn't pass up the deal I got on my Ram. Now I just hope business is good enough this year to buy a new Ford f350.

Soupy

kbcjlc
04-03-2002, 10:07 PM
I pull 6 feet width by 18 ft lenght, double axle on 99 Dodge Ram 5.9 liter.. Pull very good however gas eat up....

Keith

TJLC
04-03-2002, 10:11 PM
I have a Chevy 1500 4.3v6 auto and I pull about 3500 lbs. (trailer and equip. together). It's does ok but I think my next vehicle will be a 2500 with a 350v8. I get about 12-13 miles per gallon with my present setup. My old setup was about 2000 lbs. and I pulled it with an s-10. It didn't do too bad either. Good luck.

LJ lawn
04-03-2002, 10:22 PM
we towed a 8 K (thousand pounds) truck 400 miles on a trailer (another 1000 lbs easy) with a DODGE DAKOTA with the 318 v8 with an AUTO tranny. NO PROBLEM.

Darryl G
04-03-2002, 10:30 PM
TJLC - Hope you don't want to buy a new Chevy with a 350, you can't get them anymore. I think it's a 363 now, with a 490 option (need to get either the 6 speed stick or $$Allison$$ automatic transmission with that one). I can't imagine why they dropped the 350. Darn good motor and parts are cheap and easy to find.

olderthandirt
04-03-2002, 10:33 PM
Hi Guys
When I was starting out I pulled a 16 ft. trailor with a 1920 ford tractor with a loader on it plus my power rake. I took and had it weighed after a couple of months and it weighed in at 8900 pd.
The best part was I was towing with a 4 cyl. 5 speed ford ranger. When ever I let the clutch out the truck just sat for a second deciding whether to go or stall. I went down a rd that had a sharp turn at the bottom that coused you to almost stop to go around it and then you had to start up a large hill. Just started up the hill and ran out of power so I put it in low range [4x4] and took off again. Didn't go but a few yds. and it stalled. I had to unload the tractor drive it to the top and then bring the truck up and reload it. I bought the truck new and traded it after this incident for a larger truck . I feel sorry for the guy who ended up with it though, only had about 20,000 miles on the odometer but it had to have enough wear on it to seem like 200,000. I guess you can tow with just about anything if you have to. I know this does not answer the question but it gave a lot of laughs to all the people that passed me on my way up the hill.

NHLawns
04-04-2002, 09:11 AM
Thanks for all yoour replys. I ended up getting the Dodge 1500. It is a used 2001 and has the 5.2 liter v-8, it came with the towing package, heavy duty service group and the wheel plus group. I paid 16k for it seemed like a good deal, but I never owned a dodge truck before, I hope it holds up well.

Thanks again

Jim

diggernh
04-04-2002, 06:05 PM
Hey NHLawns..how ya doin', neighbor? I live outside the Concord area..Loudon to be specific. As for the Dodge, I think you made a good choice there. I have a 2000 1500 Ram with the 318 (Never could figger out this liter mumbo jumbo) It has the trailoring package and I use it to tow around my 16 foot landscape trailor freighted up with my Kubota B7500 with Front loader and backhoe. I must say, I was a tad sceptical before I tried it, but, I have to admit, It tows quite well. I think you will find your Dodge purchase was a good one.


"Never use a preposition to end a sentence with"

NHLawns
04-04-2002, 07:17 PM
Hey giggernh

Thanks for your input about towing with the Dodge. I was towing with a f-150 but it was getting up there in mileage, so I was a little concered about going to far to service accounts.
I live in Ossipee now but we have also lived in Tilton for a few years, and still visit the inlaws down there from time to time.

Thanks again for you info

Jim

diggernh
04-04-2002, 07:28 PM
Ossipee area is beautiful!!..I was up there a week ago Friday..actually drove thru there. Was conducting some MSHA refresher training at Bill's Place up in Conway. 70 mile ride from here..was pretty wierd, leave Loudon, not a flake of snow on the ground. As I got closer to Conway, the snowbanks kept gettin' higher and higher. New Hampshire..gotta love it!!


"Never use a preposition to end a sentence with"

LJ lawn
04-04-2002, 08:48 PM
don't forget that dodge is easy to mod.Tons of power goodies available for it.

NHLawns
04-05-2002, 08:08 AM
Hey LJLawn

What kind of power options are you refering to????

Thanks for your info


Jim

f350
04-05-2002, 09:34 AM
318 RAMS REALLY WAKE UP TO... mopar modified computer, k&n filter and a 3" catback. for gears most likely you have a 9.25" rear so go 4.10. pull in drive and use a really big perma cool trans cooler. dodge has alot of trans trouble, i use a b&m modified shift kit. this thing will help with the gear searching and the slugish shift into second. you'll notice at about 50 the trans cannot figure out which gear to be in, so this helps. have a spring shop make a 401 spring set, this will add 800#'s per side and you will not feel or see a differance in the ride.

scottdclark
04-08-2002, 04:59 PM
You'll be fine with the Dodge. Also, don't believe the morons who say, "Your Dodge Transmission will break!! Get the Phord!!!" For a given truck category (half-ton, 3/4, etc.) you'll have almost identical drivetrain between the three american manufacturers. My '98 Dodge 2500 Cummins has the 5-spd NV4500 - same on that went into the Chevy and Ford 3/4 and 1-ton trucks of the same time. Now they have the NV5600, a six-speed manual good for 560 lb-ft of torque...

My advice? Drive easy, keep the fluids full and changed on schedule, and you'll be just fine... -scott

Brickman
04-08-2002, 06:38 PM
Scottdclark I think that you need to go back and check the name tag on the trans you mentioned. They may look and drive the same but carry different names. I know for a fact that Dodge uses New Venture trans and Ford uses the Z F, it is made over seas.

It has been my experience with trucks having started with a Ranger, and then a F 150 and now a F250 PS that you will be better off with a 3/4 ton truck. For me every thing just works better to have a heavier truck on the business end of the trailer. That is my $0.02 worth.

Soupy way to go, on hoping to get a F 350. I would get a diesel, but that is your preference. They do cost more up front than a gas burner.

vangreg
04-09-2002, 03:52 PM
I have a ford 302 with a 5.0 that has no problem pulling a 16' with a Great Dane 61'' rider, 52'' stand on (surfer) and a 48'' walk behind, and all those mowers are as heavy as they can be. Brakes help

LJ lawn
04-09-2002, 04:41 PM
and pray you don't have the 5th gear nut fall off on that dodge tranny.-common problem.

scottdclark
04-09-2002, 04:58 PM
Oh yeah, had it happen already! Twice. The first time, I installed a replacement 5th gear, gear nut, and spring disk washer - from Dodge. After 40,000 more miles, it came loose again - so this time I called New venture, and they recommended the "dump truck" replacement - this nut was twice as thick, and had a cross bolt to lock it to the countershaft. That, and some loctite, this fix has gone about 20,000 miles so far. They say it was fixed in '99 and up models of the NV4500... regarding the Ford trannies, I stand corrected!! The lone Ford I knew of indeed has an NV4500... and I just found out it was a swap! But I'm told the ZF trans (made in Germany) is tough as nails also. However, don't even get us started on the POwerstroke vs. Cummins argument...! Thanks fer the correction. -scott

Brickman
04-09-2002, 06:17 PM
scottdclark


Any body that says a Cummins is trash is full of --it. I prefer the Ford truck so it somes with the PS. If Ford were to offer the Cummins in the F 250s and F 350s like they do 450 and up, it would be hard for me to decide which to get.
I don't have much for the GM diesel offerings. The new one was supposed to be the bomb, but from what I have heard........................
And the aluminum heads on a cast iron block, that doesn't work very well.

It sounds like you are on the right track tho with the locking nut. A friend just did that to his truck, we will see how it works for him, but the way they are described to me, it sounds pretty beefy.
Good luck.

MuskTurfKing
04-09-2002, 08:52 PM
Well if your not sure, just get out the owner's manual and see what it says about towing, it'll have everything. :)

Hank

Albemarle Lawn
04-10-2002, 12:07 AM
Many stock gears are 3.08:1, etc.

You should really have 3.55:1 - 4.10:1 gears if you are running stock height tires.

Stock gears will really work the engine, clutch, and trans.

GET THOSE LOWER GEARS EVERYONE!!!

My Mitsubishi-Fuso grosses 13,500 lbs with a 4cyl engine, but it has 5.73:1 gears!!!

KEn

danzig
04-11-2002, 11:25 PM
Don't forget about a set of power pulley's!!!. Dodge definantly has more suspension than a chevy. I have 2 dodge trucks. One is a 92 diesel that i use for my lawn service and on the farm. The other is a 86 ramcharger. All dodge trucks seem to put lots of power to the wheels. Keep on rammin!!!

UnionWelder
04-12-2002, 01:46 PM
My Chevy 1500 has 327,000 miles on it now, and This truck is my best friend. The engine has not burn yet. I took care of them well.Still RUN STRONG!